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"HVAC" |
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08 Nov 2005 10:30:31 AM |
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Anyone Still Against The Death Penealty? |
SARASOTA, Florida (AP) -- Jurors in the trial of a man accused of
raping and strangling 11-year-old Carlie Brucia intently watched
security camera images Monday of a man grabbing her in a parking lot.
Some jurors sat on the edges of their seats and others watched with
fingers pressed to their lips as the images flickered on a TV screen.
They showed a man taking 11-year-old Carlie's arm and walking her out
of view of the camera posted outside a Sarasota car wash.
Prosecutors said in opening statements there is overwhelming evidence
that the man in the images is Joseph Smith, a 39-year-old former auto
mechanic and father of three daughters.
But the defense contended the evidence is inconclusive and other
suspects weren't properly checked out following the slaying, which
attracted wide attention after the images were shown around the world.
Besides the camera evidence, prosecutors said that DNA found on
Carlie's shirt came from Smith.
"The defendant used power and control to abduct, sexually batter and
kill 11-year-old Carlie," said prosecutor Debra Riva.
Riva said they learned of the security-camera images as they retraced
the route Carlie would have taken home from a friend's house on
February 1, 2004. Her stepfather, Steve Kansler, testified that it was
unusual for the girl not to come home since "Carlie was a responsible
person."
Carlie's body was found four nights after her disappearance on the
grounds of a nearby church after Smith told relatives where to find it,
Riva said. From jail, Smith had called his brother on a cell phone, and
his brother led detectives to the scene.
"Carlie's body will tell you the rest of the story," Riva told the
jury. She said marks on her wrists suggested they had been restrained,
and that Smith had strangled the girl from behind.
As Riva spoke Monday, Smith sat nearly motionless, looking at her or
occasionally looking down at the defense table. The defendant, charged
with first-degree murder, kidnapping and capital sexual battery, has
pleaded not guilty. He could be sentenced to death if he is convicted
in the slaying.
Smith's attorney, Adam Tebrugge, told jurors that investigators got the
names of numerous suspects after the camera images were shown,
including that of a man who lived at the friend's house where Carlie
had spent the previous night. But, he said, Smith became their primary
suspect almost immediately.
"Once the (Sarasota County) Sheriff's Office and the FBI decided that
Joe was the person, none of these other leads was investigated," he
said.
Tebrugge also raised questions about DNA evidence, citing past cases in
which he said "maverick" FBI lab employees had made false reports.
He questioned the motives of Smith's brother, John, saying that the
brothers had feuded and that John was angry at Joseph Smith.
"Please keep an open mind and approach the evidence with a certain
degree of skepticism," Tebrugge urged the jurors.
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: Anyone Still Against The Death Penealty? |
08 Nov 2005 01:49:51 PM |
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Yes. I am.
-- cary
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Anyone Still Against The Death Penealty? |
08 Nov 2005 02:20:16 PM |
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On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:49:51 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
Yes. I am.
Me too.
-- cary
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Anyone Still Against The Death Penealty? |
08 Nov 2005 03:02:45 PM |
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on 08 Nov 2005 in alt.atheism, dear sweet Christopher A. Lee
(calee@optonline.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:49:51 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
Yes. I am.
Me too.
Me too. Keeping the offender alive may be more expensive, but death is
the easy way out.
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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"The world is only 5-6 thousand years old does not mean the planet
earth is only 5-6 thousand years old. There have been many worlds
created and destroyed on this planet. The creation of the planet is
described in Genesis 1. The creation of the world is described in
Genesis 2. Two different kind of creations." --Eric Brze
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| User: "Mike Ruskai" |
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| Title: Re: Anyone Still Against The Death Penealty? |
09 Nov 2005 03:34:22 AM |
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On or about Tue, 08 Nov 2005 15:02:45 -0600 did Uncle Vic
<address@withheld.com> dribble thusly:
on 08 Nov 2005 in alt.atheism, dear sweet Christopher A. Lee
(calee@optonline.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:49:51 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
Yes. I am.
Me too.
Me too. Keeping the offender alive may be more expensive, but death is
the easy way out.
I've always heard that the appeals process makes it more expensive to
execute a person than to put them in prison for life.
The prison option also has the welcome side-effect of allowing a
mistake to be partially rectified.
Personally, I see the death penalty as analogous to the exterminator
killing termites. You're not punishing the termites, you're stopping
them from doing harm that they are incapable of preventing themselves
from doing.
So, killing someone like Ted Bundy is removing a threat to society
that is incapable of not being a threat.
However, there is too much uncertainty in the legal process. They're
still treating eye witness testimony as reliable, for Thor's sake!
That's even ignoring the question of how you determine who should go
the way of the termites.
So, while a valid means of protecting society in principle, the death
'penalty' is impossible to implement properly in practice.
I still don't know why someone hasn't tried to figure out how many
innocent people were killed in Texas under W's watch. They
practically have a conveyor belt between death row and the chair down
there.
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- Mike
Ignore the Python in me to send e-mail.
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| User: "Goodness Godless" |
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| Title: Re: Anyone Still Against The Death Penealty? |
08 Nov 2005 03:31:39 PM |
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p.s.
One reason why Turkey is not going to get into the
European Union is because like the US of Murder, they
still like to engage in State Murder!
But like a true IslamicChristian, you call it the death penalty.
Truely Cowardly Arabs and Americans!
"HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote in message
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SARASOTA, Florida (AP) -- Jurors in the trial of a man accused of
raping and strangling 11-year-old Carlie Brucia intently watched
security camera images Monday of a man grabbing her in a parking lot.
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