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"HVAC" |
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08 Nov 2005 04:30:31 PM |
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Anyone Still Against The Death Penealty? |
SARASOTA, Florida (AP) -- Jurors in the trial of a man accused of
raping and strangling 11-year-old Carlie Brucia intently watched
security camera images Monday of a man grabbing her in a parking lot.
Some jurors sat on the edges of their seats and others watched with
fingers pressed to their lips as the images flickered on a TV screen.
They showed a man taking 11-year-old Carlie's arm and walking her out
of view of the camera posted outside a Sarasota car wash.
Prosecutors said in opening statements there is overwhelming evidence
that the man in the images is Joseph Smith, a 39-year-old former auto
mechanic and father of three daughters.
But the defense contended the evidence is inconclusive and other
suspects weren't properly checked out following the slaying, which
attracted wide attention after the images were shown around the world.
Besides the camera evidence, prosecutors said that DNA found on
Carlie's shirt came from Smith.
"The defendant used power and control to abduct, sexually batter and
kill 11-year-old Carlie," said prosecutor Debra Riva.
Riva said they learned of the security-camera images as they retraced
the route Carlie would have taken home from a friend's house on
February 1, 2004. Her stepfather, Steve Kansler, testified that it was
unusual for the girl not to come home since "Carlie was a responsible
person."
Carlie's body was found four nights after her disappearance on the
grounds of a nearby church after Smith told relatives where to find it,
Riva said. From jail, Smith had called his brother on a cell phone, and
his brother led detectives to the scene.
"Carlie's body will tell you the rest of the story," Riva told the
jury. She said marks on her wrists suggested they had been restrained,
and that Smith had strangled the girl from behind.
As Riva spoke Monday, Smith sat nearly motionless, looking at her or
occasionally looking down at the defense table. The defendant, charged
with first-degree murder, kidnapping and capital sexual battery, has
pleaded not guilty. He could be sentenced to death if he is convicted
in the slaying.
Smith's attorney, Adam Tebrugge, told jurors that investigators got the
names of numerous suspects after the camera images were shown,
including that of a man who lived at the friend's house where Carlie
had spent the previous night. But, he said, Smith became their primary
suspect almost immediately.
"Once the (Sarasota County) Sheriff's Office and the FBI decided that
Joe was the person, none of these other leads was investigated," he
said.
Tebrugge also raised questions about DNA evidence, citing past cases in
which he said "maverick" FBI lab employees had made false reports.
He questioned the motives of Smith's brother, John, saying that the
brothers had feuded and that John was angry at Joseph Smith.
"Please keep an open mind and approach the evidence with a certain
degree of skepticism," Tebrugge urged the jurors.
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08 Nov 2005 08:41:38 PM |
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"HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1131467431.011785.305010@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
<article snipped>
I'm still against the death penalty.
--
Aloha, G-Ride
"Like a quarrelling group of monkeys on a leaky boat, armed with sticks of
dynamite, we are now embarked on an uncertain journey."
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| User: "Graham Kennedy" |
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08 Nov 2005 07:35:17 PM |
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HVAC wrote:
SARASOTA, Florida (AP) -- Jurors in the trial of a man accused of
raping and strangling 11-year-old Carlie Brucia intently watched
security camera images Monday of a man grabbing her in a parking lot.
I am. I prefer it if governments only kill people
when it will serve some useful purpose. I don't see
what purpose is served by killing this guy, or any
criminal.
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Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| User: "Katt" |
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08 Nov 2005 08:40:06 PM |
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"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message news:K57cf.244$2D3.5449@
I prefer it if governments only kill people
when it will serve some useful purpose.
So much for Kant, eh...?
Katt.
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| User: "Graham Kennedy" |
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08 Nov 2005 10:57:38 PM |
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Katt wrote:
"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message news:K57cf.244$2D3.5449@
I prefer it if governments only kill people
when it will serve some useful purpose.
So much for Kant, eh...?
Sorry, I'm afraid I don't know what you mean.
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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09 Nov 2005 06:59:44 AM |
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On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:57:38 +0000 in alt.atheism, Graham Kennedy
(Graham Kennedy <graham@ditl.org>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Katt wrote:
"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message news:K57cf.244$2D3.5449@
I prefer it if governments only kill people
when it will serve some useful purpose.
So much for Kant, eh...?
Sorry, I'm afraid I don't know what you mean.
Categorical Imperative?
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| User: "Graham Kennedy" |
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09 Nov 2005 08:12:48 PM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:57:38 +0000 in alt.atheism, Graham Kennedy
(Graham Kennedy <graham@ditl.org>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Katt wrote:
"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message news:K57cf.244$2D3.5449@
I prefer it if governments only kill people
when it will serve some useful purpose.
So much for Kant, eh...?
Sorry, I'm afraid I don't know what you mean.
Categorical Imperative?
What's that?
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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09 Nov 2005 08:51:58 PM |
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On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 20:12:48 +0000 in alt.atheism, Graham Kennedy
(Graham Kennedy <graham@ditl.org>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Therion Ware wrote:
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:57:38 +0000 in alt.atheism, Graham Kennedy
(Graham Kennedy <graham@ditl.org>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Katt wrote:
"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message news:K57cf.244$2D3.5449@
I prefer it if governments only kill people
when it will serve some useful purpose.
So much for Kant, eh...?
Sorry, I'm afraid I don't know what you mean.
Categorical Imperative?
What's that?
Good question. Not least because I think there are problems with it.
For a summary see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorical_imperative
To my mind there should be no exceptions to a categorical imperative,
but there are.
For instance, if the SS are seeking Jews is one obliged to tell the SS
the truth as regards where the Jews are hiding because one must always
tell the truth?
The point being that any absolute moral statement always implies or
suggests an exceptional case where the "absolute rule" must be
disregarded.
Which, I suppose, is part of what it means to be human.
Alas.
Not least because we don't always - rarely - get these kinds of
decisions right.
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"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
#442. www.video2cd.co.uk. Your 8mm films on DVD.
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| User: "thomas p" |
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10 Nov 2005 01:23:47 PM |
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On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 20:51:58 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 20:12:48 +0000 in alt.atheism, Graham Kennedy
(Graham Kennedy <graham@ditl.org>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Therion Ware wrote:
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:57:38 +0000 in alt.atheism, Graham Kennedy
(Graham Kennedy <graham@ditl.org>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
Katt wrote:
"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message news:K57cf.244$2D3.5449@
I prefer it if governments only kill people
when it will serve some useful purpose.
So much for Kant, eh...?
Sorry, I'm afraid I don't know what you mean.
Categorical Imperative?
What's that?
Good question. Not least because I think there are problems with it.
For a summary see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categorical_imperative
To my mind there should be no exceptions to a categorical imperative,
but there are.
For instance, if the SS are seeking Jews is one obliged to tell the SS
the truth as regards where the Jews are hiding because one must always
tell the truth?
Are you sure that the categorical imperative would insist that the
truth had to be told in every situation? I am not sure, but it
sounds like an oversimplification of Kant.
snip
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "Katt" |
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09 Nov 2005 01:05:46 PM |
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"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message
news:K57cf.244$2D3.5449@
I prefer it if governments only kill people
when it will serve some useful purpose.
So much for Kant, eh...?
Sorry, I'm afraid I don't know what you mean.
Clearly.
K.
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| User: "Graham Kennedy" |
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09 Nov 2005 08:15:28 PM |
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Katt wrote:
"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message
news:K57cf.244$2D3.5449@
I prefer it if governments only kill people
when it will serve some useful purpose.
So much for Kant, eh...?
Sorry, I'm afraid I don't know what you mean.
Clearly.
Sorry, I wasn't clear there. I was trying to imply that
it might be a good idea if you explained what you meant.
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| User: "Pramod Subramanyan" |
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09 Nov 2005 01:22:01 PM |
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Violence is a bad thing. Ideally, one wants a world completely devoid
of violence.
Any sort of system that makes certain acts of violence "legal" and
certain acts "illegal" will prevent violence from being eliminated. So
in effect, the legal/illegal classifaction will help perpetuate
violence.
This is so simple, why don't people understand it?
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| User: "Graham Kennedy" |
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09 Nov 2005 08:14:44 PM |
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Pramod Subramanyan wrote:
Violence is a bad thing. Ideally, one wants a world completely devoid
of violence.
Any sort of system that makes certain acts of violence "legal" and
certain acts "illegal" will prevent violence from being eliminated. So
in effect, the legal/illegal classifaction will help perpetuate
violence.
In an ideal world, there would be no violence. But we
don't live in an ideal world. And to act like we do live
in an ideal world when we do not, does not make sense.
This is so simple, why don't people understand it?
Perhaps they just don't agree with it?
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| User: "thomas p" |
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10 Nov 2005 01:23:48 PM |
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On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 20:14:44 +0000, Graham Kennedy <graham@ditl.org>
wrote:
Pramod Subramanyan wrote:
Violence is a bad thing. Ideally, one wants a world completely devoid
of violence.
Any sort of system that makes certain acts of violence "legal" and
certain acts "illegal" will prevent violence from being eliminated. So
in effect, the legal/illegal classifaction will help perpetuate
violence.
In an ideal world, there would be no violence. But we
don't live in an ideal world. And to act like we do live
in an ideal world when we do not, does not make sense.
We do live in a world in which the death penalty has never been shown
to prevent violent crime, but many people still insist that it is
necessary. That does not make any sense.
This is so simple, why don't people understand it?
Perhaps they just don't agree with it?
That much is clear, but is there any rational reason for the
disagreement, one that fits the facts in the real world? I am not
denying that there is, but I do not know what it is.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "Brian Henderson" |
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10 Nov 2005 08:08:24 PM |
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On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:23:48 +0100, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:
We do live in a world in which the death penalty has never been shown
to prevent violent crime, but many people still insist that it is
necessary. That does not make any sense.
Who cares if it prevents violent crime? It's called the death
PENALTY, not the death PREVENTION. It is a punishment for someone who
commits a particularly heinous crime.
Prison doesn't prevent crime either, should we get rid of it?
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| User: "Graham Kennedy" |
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10 Nov 2005 11:03:50 PM |
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Brian Henderson wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:23:48 +0100, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:
We do live in a world in which the death penalty has never been shown
to prevent violent crime, but many people still insist that it is
necessary. That does not make any sense.
Who cares if it prevents violent crime? It's called the death
PENALTY, not the death PREVENTION. It is a punishment for someone who
commits a particularly heinous crime.
For what purpose do we punish criminals?
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| User: "thomas p" |
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10 Nov 2005 10:57:04 PM |
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On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:08:24 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:23:48 +0100, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:
We do live in a world in which the death penalty has never been shown
to prevent violent crime, but many people still insist that it is
necessary. That does not make any sense.
Who cares if it prevents violent crime?
Who cares? The taxpayers should care. No doubt the murder victims
would care if they could.
It's called the death
PENALTY, not the death PREVENTION. It is a punishment for someone who
commits a particularly heinous crime.
Prison doesn't prevent crime either, should we get rid of it?
Since it costs a great deal of money, it might be an idea to take a
good, objective look at it, but, then again, as you say, who cares?
As long as somebody gets punished, the fact that crime rates remain
high and large numbers of people continue to get murdered is
irrelevant - right?
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "Brian Henderson" |
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11 Nov 2005 09:30:40 PM |
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On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 23:57:04 +0100, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:
Who cares? The taxpayers should care. No doubt the murder victims
would care if they could.
If someone murdered me, I'd want the person responsible to be tortured
to within an inch of their lives and then be ripped limb from limb and
fed to the dogs.
It's called the death
PENALTY, not the death PREVENTION. It is a punishment for someone who
commits a particularly heinous crime.
Yes, we all noticed you completely forgot to respond to the whole meat
of the post.
Since it costs a great deal of money, it might be an idea to take a
good, objective look at it, but, then again, as you say, who cares?
As long as somebody gets punished, the fact that crime rates remain
high and large numbers of people continue to get murdered is
irrelevant - right?
You be sure to let us know when you find a way to stop crime, okay?
Realistically, you're not going to do it and the only way to reduce it
is to let the would-be criminals know that if they do commit a crime,
they're going to spend the rest of their ruined lives regretting it.
Stupid pussified liberal crap doesn't work.
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| User: "thomas p" |
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12 Nov 2005 08:36:34 AM |
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:30:40 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 23:57:04 +0100, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:
Who cares? The taxpayers should care. No doubt the murder victims
would care if they could.
If someone murdered me, I'd want the person responsible to be tortured
to within an inch of their lives and then be ripped limb from limb and
fed to the dogs.
It's called the death
PENALTY, not the death PREVENTION. It is a punishment for someone who
commits a particularly heinous crime.
Yes, we all noticed you completely forgot to respond to the whole meat
of the post.
Since it costs a great deal of money, it might be an idea to take a
good, objective look at it, but, then again, as you say, who cares?
As long as somebody gets punished, the fact that crime rates remain
high and large numbers of people continue to get murdered is
irrelevant - right?
You be sure to let us know when you find a way to stop crime, okay?
Realistically, you're not going to do it and the only way to reduce it
is to let the would-be criminals know that if they do commit a crime,
they're going to spend the rest of their ruined lives regretting it.
Stupid pussified liberal crap doesn't work.
I have no idea who you are arguing with, but it isn't me. I did not
claim that I had any magic way to stop crime, nor did I suggest any
solution. Please carry on your conversation with the person that is
claiming those things.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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12 Nov 2005 09:35:45 AM |
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On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:36:34 +0100, thomas p <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk>
wrote:
I did not
claim that I had any magic way to stop crime, nor did I suggest any
solution.
But I did. The first country to develop and launch a computer interfaced
orbital police satellite which eliminates people who are criminals will
control the world.
and have world peace.
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12 Nov 2005 09:37:23 AM |
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On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:36:34 +0100, thomas p <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk>
wrote:
I did not
claim that I had any magic way to stop crime, nor did I suggest any
solution.
But I did. The first country to develop and launch a computer interfaced
orbital police satellite which eliminates people who are criminals will
control the world.
and have world peace.
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| Title: Computerized World Peace Anyone Still Against The Death Penalty? |
11 Nov 2005 09:37:54 PM |
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:30:40 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
You be sure to let us know when you find a way to stop crime, okay?
There's an easy way.
Morality is all about survival of the species & keeping law and order --
thou shall not kill, thou shall not steal, ect.
It would be very easy to hand over the entire task to a computer system
programmed with laws and satellite system which can filter out anyone who is
not law abiding. All law breakers can be easily and painlessly exterminated
automatically.
It would do wonders for the gene pool.
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| User: "Colin Day" |
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12 Nov 2005 08:02:42 AM |
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http://www.whereisthemoney.org/ wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:30:40 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
You be sure to let us know when you find a way to stop crime, okay?
There's an easy way.
Morality is all about survival of the species & keeping law and order --
thou shall not kill, thou shall not steal, ect.
It would be very easy to hand over the entire task to a computer system
programmed with laws and satellite system which can filter out anyone who is
not law abiding. All law breakers can be easily and painlessly exterminated
automatically.
It would do wonders for the gene pool.
Ah, but then, what is the sentence for people who advocate computerized
jurisprudence?
Colin Day aa #1500
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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12 Nov 2005 06:38:17 PM |
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Colin Day wrote:
http://www.whereisthemoney.org/ wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:30:40 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
You be sure to let us know when you find a way to stop crime, okay?
There's an easy way.
Morality is all about survival of the species & keeping law and
order -- thou shall not kill, thou shall not steal, ect.
It would be very easy to hand over the entire task to a computer
system programmed with laws and satellite system which can filter
out anyone who is not law abiding. All law breakers can be easily
and painlessly exterminated automatically.
It would do wonders for the gene pool.
The probability of someone not breaking a law in any given day is just about
zero even if it is limited to those of just one country.
It would get more fun when the question of intent came up.
A man runs into a store, grabs a TV and says "I'll bring it back after the
world series."
With the exception of a soldier under "The Uniform Code of Military Justice"
no crime has been committed.
A man walks out with an item in his hand.
One clerk yells "Come back or I'll call the police." and another says "Come
back and I won't call the police."
If the item was paid for then the clerks die for committing crimes
(compounding a crime and extortion )
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| User: "http://www.whereisthemoney.org/" |
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12 Nov 2005 08:46:10 PM |
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On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:38:17 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Colin Day wrote:
http://www.whereisthemoney.org/ wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:30:40 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
You be sure to let us know when you find a way to stop crime, okay?
There's an easy way.
Morality is all about survival of the species & keeping law and
order -- thou shall not kill, thou shall not steal, ect.
It would be very easy to hand over the entire task to a computer
system programmed with laws and satellite system which can filter
out anyone who is not law abiding. All law breakers can be easily
and painlessly exterminated automatically.
It would do wonders for the gene pool.
The probability of someone not breaking a law in any given day is just about
zero
I don't break any laws most every day.
even if it is limited to those of just one country.
It would get more fun when the question of intent came up.
A man runs into a store, grabs a TV and says "I'll bring it back after the
world series."
With the exception of a soldier under "The Uniform Code of Military Justice"
no crime has been committed.
A man walks out with an item in his hand.
One clerk yells "Come back or I'll call the police." and another says "Come
back and I won't call the police."
If the item was paid for then the clerks die for committing crimes
(compounding a crime and extortion )
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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13 Nov 2005 12:35:37 AM |
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http://www.whereisthemoney.org/ wrote:
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:38:17 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Colin Day wrote:
http://www.whereisthemoney.org/ wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:30:40 GMT, Brian Henderson
<BrianL.Henderson@NOSPAM.verizon.net> wrote:
You be sure to let us know when you find a way to stop crime,
okay?
There's an easy way.
Morality is all about survival of the species & keeping law and
order -- thou shall not kill, thou shall not steal, ect.
It would be very easy to hand over the entire task to a computer
system programmed with laws and satellite system which can filter
out anyone who is not law abiding. All law breakers can be easily
and painlessly exterminated automatically.
It would do wonders for the gene pool.
The probability of someone not breaking a law in any given day is
just about zero
I don't break any laws most every day.
You never exceed the speed limit, not come to a complete stop, make unneeded
lane changes, j-walk?
even if it is limited to those of just one country.
It would get more fun when the question of intent came up.
A man runs into a store, grabs a TV and says "I'll bring it back
after the world series."
With the exception of a soldier under "The Uniform Code of Military
Justice" no crime has been committed.
A man walks out with an item in his hand.
One clerk yells "Come back or I'll call the police." and another
says "Come back and I won't call the police."
If the item was paid for then the clerks die for committing crimes
(compounding a crime and extortion )
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13 Nov 2005 02:49:06 AM |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:35:37 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I don't break any laws most every day.
You never exceed the speed limit, not come to a complete stop, make unneeded
lane changes, j-walk?
No, but thank you for asking.
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| User: "Mark Shippey" |
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| Title: Re: Computerized World Peace Anyone Still Against The Death Penalty? |
13 Nov 2005 04:28:39 AM |
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http://www.whereisthemoney.org/ <truth@r.us> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:35:37 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I don't break any laws most every day.
You never exceed the speed limit, not come to a complete stop, make unneeded
lane changes, j-walk?
No, but thank you for asking.
Is this the case for all the hundreds of your sock puppets?
"To live outside the law, you must be honest" - Bob Dylan
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| User: "http://www.whereisthemoney.org/" |
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| Title: Re: Computerized World Peace Anyone Still Against The Death Penalty? |
13 Nov 2005 06:13:48 AM |
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On 13 Nov 2005 04:28:39 GMT, Mark Shippey <colonel@anti-grey.net> wrote:
http://www.whereisthemoney.org/ <truth@r.us> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:35:37 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I don't break any laws most every day.
You never exceed the speed limit, not come to a complete stop, make unneeded
lane changes, j-walk?
No, but thank you for asking.
Is this the case for all the hundreds of your sock puppets?
someone had to be the model mind.
"To live outside the law, you must be honest" - Bob Dylan
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| User: "Mark Shippey" |
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| Title: Re: Computerized World Peace Anyone Still Against The Death Penalty? |
13 Nov 2005 06:31:59 AM |
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http://www.whereisthemoney.org/ <truth@r.us> wrote:
On 13 Nov 2005 04:28:39 GMT, Mark Shippey <colonel@anti-grey.net> wrote:
http://www.whereisthemoney.org/ <truth@r.us> wrote:
On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 00:35:37 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I don't break any laws most every day.
You never exceed the speed limit, not come to a complete stop, make unneeded
lane changes, j-walk?
No, but thank you for asking.
Is this the case for all the hundreds of your sock puppets?
someone had to be the model mind.
You mean, like, there was once a mind that become the model for the
creation of hundreds of sock puppets? Kind of like clones that would all
carry an original genetic defect only in this case a mental defect?
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| User: "http://www.whereisthemoney.org/" |
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| Title: Re: Computerized World Peace Anyone Still Against The Death Penalty? |
13 Nov 2005 06:48:07 AM |
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On 13 Nov 2005 06:31:59 GMT, Mark Shippey <colonel@anti-grey.net> wrote:
<snip>
someone had to be the model mind.
You mean, like, there was once a mind that become the model for the
creation of
a computerized orbital police satellite system
<snip>
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