| Topic: |
Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"HVAC" |
| Date: |
08 Nov 2005 08:18:43 PM |
| Object: |
Anyone Still Against The Death Penealty? |
"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message
news:K57cf.244$2D3.5449@news-1.opaltelecom.net...
HVAC wrote:
SARASOTA, Florida (AP) -- Jurors in the trial of a man accused of
raping and strangling 11-year-old Carlie Brucia intently watched
security camera images Monday of a man grabbing her in a parking lot.
I am. I prefer it if governments only kill people
when it will serve some useful purpose. I don't see
what purpose is served by killing this guy, or any
criminal.
I can come up with a couple of reasons, right off the
top of my head.
1) Revenge...If it was my daughter he killed, I would spend
the remainder of my time on earth and all my money to kill him.
2) Deterrence, if he was tried, convicted and killed within a month
it might deter others (this one is weak)
3) The most important factor. If we kill his perverted *****, we are
100% assured that he will NEVER, ever kill anyone else's baby girl.
I will now accept rebuttals from gay liberal faggots.
.
|
|
| User: "navi-gater" |
|
| Title: Re: Anyone Still Against The Death Penealty? |
08 Nov 2005 11:33:08 PM |
|
|
"HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote in news:1131481123.240840.219060
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message
news:K57cf.244$2D3.5449@news-1.opaltelecom.net...
HVAC wrote:
SARASOTA, Florida (AP) -- Jurors in the trial of a man accused of
raping and strangling 11-year-old Carlie Brucia intently watched
security camera images Monday of a man grabbing her in a parking
lot.
I am. I prefer it if governments only kill people
when it will serve some useful purpose. I don't see
what purpose is served by killing this guy, or any
criminal.
I can come up with a couple of reasons, right off the
top of my head.
1) Revenge...If it was my daughter he killed, I would spend
the remainder of my time on earth and all my money to kill him.
For those touched by such horiffic acts, the death of the perpetrator is
a much longed for event and yet in the aftermath is generally a let
down. It doesn't feel the hole left, or blot out the horror or provide
"closure".
You think you want it - but it gets you nothing.
2) Deterrence, if he was tried, convicted and killed within a month
it might deter others (this one is weak)
States with DP often have higher DP crime rates than those without. You
could argue that have no DP helps reduce the number of DP level crimes.
3) The most important factor. If we kill his perverted *****, we are
100% assured that he will NEVER, ever kill anyone else's baby girl.
This is the only saving argument for DP. However it requires a 100%
accurate method for the identification of the guilty which we don't
have.
Furthermore, this aspect smacks of cure rather than prevention. Surely
eliminating the act is better than letting it happen and then punishing
it.
Since most child molestation cases take place within the family, you
might start by looking at yourself and those around you - you are the
ones who are most likely to engage in the abuse of your (or related)
children.
I will now accept rebuttals from gay liberal faggots.
Since you have an anger problem, you should try psychological help and
do stay away from those children...
gater.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Carl Kaufmann" |
|
| Title: Re: Anyone Still Against The Death Penealty? |
09 Nov 2005 05:40:45 AM |
|
|
HVAC wrote:
"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message
news:K57cf.244$2D3.5449@news-1.opaltelecom.net...
HVAC wrote:
SARASOTA, Florida (AP) -- Jurors in the trial of a man accused of
raping and strangling 11-year-old Carlie Brucia intently watched
security camera images Monday of a man grabbing her in a parking lot.
I am. I prefer it if governments only kill people
when it will serve some useful purpose. I don't see
what purpose is served by killing this guy, or any
criminal.
I can come up with a couple of reasons, right off the
top of my head.
1) Revenge...If it was my daughter he killed, I would spend
the remainder of my time on earth and all my money to kill him.
And once you succeeded, you'd be guilty of a capital crime as well.
The state is not in the revenge business.
2) Deterrence, if he was tried, convicted and killed within a month
it might deter others (this one is weak)
The evidence is at best ambiguous about the validity of this point.
3) The most important factor. If we kill his perverted *****, we are
100% assured that he will NEVER, ever kill anyone else's baby girl.
Life term, no parole does the same thing.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Olrik" |
|
| Title: Re: Anyone Still Against The Death Penealty? |
09 Nov 2005 05:13:21 AM |
|
|
HVAC wrote:
"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message
news:K57cf.244$2D3.5449@news-1.opaltelecom.net...
HVAC wrote:
SARASOTA, Florida (AP) -- Jurors in the trial of a man accused of
raping and strangling 11-year-old Carlie Brucia intently watched
security camera images Monday of a man grabbing her in a parking lot.
I am. I prefer it if governments only kill people
when it will serve some useful purpose. I don't see
what purpose is served by killing this guy, or any
criminal.
I can come up with a couple of reasons, right off the
top of my head.
1) Revenge...If it was my daughter he killed, I would spend
the remainder of my time on earth and all my money to kill him.
Then you'd be found guilty of first degree murder and sentenced to death.
2) Deterrence, if he was tried, convicted and killed within a month
it might deter others (this one is weak)
Kool. How about lynching on the spot?
3) The most important factor. If we kill his perverted *****, we are
100% assured that he will NEVER, ever kill anyone else's baby girl.
So's "life without parole".
I will now accept rebuttals from gay liberal faggots.
You don't care much about credibility, do you?
--
Olrik
aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
.
|
|
|
| User: "Mark Shippey" |
|
| Title: Re: Anyone Still Against The Death Penealty? |
09 Nov 2005 05:39:55 AM |
|
|
Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_bacon!_.com> wrote:
HVAC wrote:
1) Revenge...If it was my daughter he killed, I would spend
the remainder of my time on earth and all my money to kill him.
Then you'd be found guilty of first degree murder and sentenced to death.
Maybe so, if it was his daughter, he might be willing to pay that price.
And, there is always the mental duress defense. I for one, would testify
that Mr. HVAC, being a brave American veteran and fine upstanding
American, was driven to his actions by the unbeivable grief of his loss
and the fact that far too often, the justice system fails the victims. So,
in his grief and anguish, he hunted down the ***** and did him in.
How do you like HVAC now?
.
|
|
|
| User: "" |
|
| Title: Re: Anyone Still Against The Death Penealty? |
09 Nov 2005 06:22:34 AM |
|
|
Mark Shippey wrote:
Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_bacon!_.com> wrote:
HVAC wrote:
1) Revenge...If it was my daughter he killed, I would spend
the remainder of my time on earth and all my money to kill him.
Then you'd be found guilty of first degree murder and sentenced to death.
Maybe so, if it was his daughter, he might be willing to pay that price.
Sure.
And, there is always the mental duress defense. I for one, would testify
that Mr. HVAC, being a brave American veteran and fine upstanding
American, was driven to his actions by the unbeivable grief of his loss
and the fact that far too often, the justice system fails the victims. So,
in his grief and anguish, he hunted down the ***** and did him in.
How do you like HVAC now?
Guilty as charged of first degree murder.
Justice is imperfect, sadly. One way to help it is to stop executing
convicts. That way, an error is repairable.
Olrik
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "magilla" |
|
| Title: Re: Anyone Still Against The Death Penealty? |
08 Nov 2005 08:38:13 PM |
|
|
HVAC wrote:
"Graham Kennedy" <graham@ditl.org> wrote in message
news:K57cf.244$2D3.5449@news-1.opaltelecom.net...
HVAC wrote:
SARASOTA, Florida (AP) -- Jurors in the trial of a man accused of
raping and strangling 11-year-old Carlie Brucia intently watched
security camera images Monday of a man grabbing her in a parking lot.
I am. I prefer it if governments only kill people
when it will serve some useful purpose. I don't see
what purpose is served by killing this guy, or any
criminal.
I can come up with a couple of reasons, right off the
top of my head.
1) Revenge...If it was my daughter he killed, I would spend
the remainder of my time on earth and all my money to kill him.
Life in prison. Ever been inside a prison? Contrary to popular belief,
they ain't country clubs. Friend of mine who did time for conspiracy to
sell coke told me that where he was, you made reservations to watch tv
in a common room. He signed up about a month in advance to watch a
hockey playoff game. He goes in, changes the channel to his show, and
sits down to watch. Three guys get up and beat the ***** out of him,
change the tv back to their show. He laid there for an hour before he
could get back to his cell.
Every.
Fucking.
Day.
Same.
As.
Before.
That's worse than dying in my book.
2) Deterrence, if he was tried, convicted and killed within a month
it might deter others (this one is weak)
Not weak, wrong. If there's any deterrence benefit, why are people
still being murdered in Texas, Virginia, and Florida?
3) The most important factor. If we kill his perverted *****, we are
100% assured that he will NEVER, ever kill anyone else's baby girl.
Ditto, life in prison- with the benefit that you can set him free if
you find out you got the wrong guy.
You DO want the right guy, don't you? Or is it enough that someone,
ANYONE fry for your personal amusement?
I will now accept butt from gay liberal faggots.
Your personal life is not our concern.
Chris
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "raven1" |
|
| Title: Re: Anyone Still Against The Death Penealty? |
08 Nov 2005 09:52:59 PM |
|
|
On 8 Nov 2005 12:18:43 -0800, "HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
Move along, folks, nothing to see here.
---
"This is how liberty dies: with thunderous applause"
- Padme Amidala, Episode III
.
|
|
|
|
|
Related Articles |
|
|
