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16 Dec 2005 09:25:28 PM |
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Archbishop of Perth Says Pope is Lying ! |
The Pope says that homosexuality is a grave sin, the Archbishop
of Perth says, that is impossible.
"The same applies to the concept of an 'exclusively homosexually
orientated person.' This was a discovery of only 150 years ago.
Go to the Bible and it simply is not there. Often, people speak
of the clear Biblical teaching about how to deal pastorally
with homosexual people, but that is a real howler. The Bible
knows nothing of the existence of homosexual people. No doubt
there were such people in the ancient world and others would
have had the experience of engaging with them, but they were
blind to their existence as 'homosexually orientated people'
because they did not yet have the concept of 'exclusive
homosexual orientation' with which to order their raw
experiences."
"Without the concept of an 'exclusively homosexually orientated
person' it is therefore an impossibility for biblical writers
to refer explicitly to or claim to know actual people who filled
that concept. Even if they experienced them, they were blind to
the existence of exclusive homosexual identity. There can
therefore be no biblical text consciously directed at
'homosexually orientated people' as a distinct sub-class of
humans. The biblical authors cannot even have dreamed of such a
thing for the Bible does not work with the mid-nineteenth century
distinction between homosexuals and heterosexuals. In ancient
days it was simply a matter of working with the assumed concept
of the undifferentiated heterosexuality of males and females."
-By Dr Carnley who is a Cambridge PhD, and Archbishop of Perth
For a full history of the concept of homosexuality see:
Legal history
http://hnn.us/articles/1539.html
Medical history
http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk/social14.htm
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20 Dec 2005 12:06:32 PM |
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"€€R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <wuNpf.14764$aS5.7316@bignews4.bellsouth.net>, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote
So you
talk about unbiased reporting, while never a word to counter the
myth of a sin of homosexuality?
All sex outside of marriage is a sin.
** According to always-infallible Pope Gregory the Great [590 to 604],
even within marriage:
1. Thinking about it is a sin -- a.k.a. "impure thoughts."
2. Taking pleasure in it is a sin.
3. Every act of sex in marriage is so sinful that it requires penance for
its atonement.
Totally wrong. http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=520
(as usual)
BAM
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| User: "€€R.L.Measures" |
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20 Dec 2005 07:46:25 PM |
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In article <lHXpf.15561$kP5.8549@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"€€R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <wuNpf.14764$aS5.7316@bignews4.bellsouth.net>, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote
So you
talk about unbiased reporting, while never a word to counter the
myth of a sin of homosexuality?
All sex outside of marriage is a sin.
** According to always-infallible Pope Gregory the Great [590 to 604],
even within marriage:
1. Thinking about it is a sin -- a.k.a. "impure thoughts."
2. Taking pleasure in it is a sin.
3. Every act of sex in marriage is so sinful that it requires penance for
its atonement.
Totally wrong. http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=520
** What is immoderate sexual intercourse?
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| User: "bam" |
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20 Dec 2005 08:11:52 PM |
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"€€R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <lHXpf.15561$kP5.8549@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"€€R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r_-2012050055490001@192.168.1.101...
In article <wuNpf.14764$aS5.7316@bignews4.bellsouth.net>, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote
So you
talk about unbiased reporting, while never a word to counter the
myth of a sin of homosexuality?
All sex outside of marriage is a sin.
** According to always-infallible Pope Gregory the Great [590 to 604],
even within marriage:
1. Thinking about it is a sin -- a.k.a. "impure thoughts."
2. Taking pleasure in it is a sin.
3. Every act of sex in marriage is so sinful that it requires penance
for
its atonement.
Totally wrong. http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=520
** What is immoderate sexual intercourse?
Three guesses.
BAM
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| User: "ۥR.L.Measures" |
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21 Dec 2005 02:39:39 AM |
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In article <lO2qf.19687$k76.11366@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"€€R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r_-2012051746250001@192.168.1.101...
In article <lHXpf.15561$kP5.8549@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"€€R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <wuNpf.14764$aS5.7316@bignews4.bellsouth.net>, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote
So you
talk about unbiased reporting, while never a word to counter the
myth of a sin of homosexuality?
All sex outside of marriage is a sin.
** According to always-infallible Pope Gregory the Great [590 to 604],
even within marriage:
1. Thinking about it is a sin -- a.k.a. "impure thoughts."
2. Taking pleasure in it is a sin.
3. Every act of sex in marriage is so sinful that it requires penance
for
its atonement.
Totally wrong. http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=520
** What is immoderate sexual intercourse?
Three guesses.
*** Mmmm.
1. She's on top.
2. She screams so loud when she has an orgasm that lights come on at
other houses.
3. She digitally stimulates the prostate during ejaculation in order to
drain the epididymis dry.
Backup guess: The bedframe needs to be anchored to the floor with lagbolts.
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21 Dec 2005 07:30:19 AM |
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"ۥR.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <lO2qf.19687$k76.11366@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"€€R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <lHXpf.15561$kP5.8549@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"€€R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <wuNpf.14764$aS5.7316@bignews4.bellsouth.net>, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote
So you
talk about unbiased reporting, while never a word to counter the
myth of a sin of homosexuality?
All sex outside of marriage is a sin.
** According to always-infallible Pope Gregory the Great [590 to
604],
even within marriage:
1. Thinking about it is a sin -- a.k.a. "impure thoughts."
2. Taking pleasure in it is a sin.
3. Every act of sex in marriage is so sinful that it requires penance
for
its atonement.
Totally wrong.
http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=520
** What is immoderate sexual intercourse?
Three guesses.
*** Mmmm.
1. She's on top.
2. She screams so loud when she has an orgasm that lights come on at
other houses.
3. She digitally stimulates the prostate during ejaculation in order to
drain the epididymis dry.
Backup guess: The bedframe needs to be anchored to the floor with
lagbolts.
Yeah. Something like that.
BAM
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| User: "ۥR.L.Measures" |
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21 Dec 2005 07:46:19 AM |
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In article <mKcqf.15046$Qa1.4751@bignews1.bellsouth.net>, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"ۥR.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r_-2112050039390001@192.168.1.101...
In article <lO2qf.19687$k76.11366@bignews6.bellsouth.net>, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"€€R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <lHXpf.15561$kP5.8549@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"€€R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
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In article <wuNpf.14764$aS5.7316@bignews4.bellsouth.net>, "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
"newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote
So you
talk about unbiased reporting, while never a word to counter the
myth of a sin of homosexuality?
All sex outside of marriage is a sin.
** According to always-infallible Pope Gregory the Great [590 to
604],
even within marriage:
1. Thinking about it is a sin -- a.k.a. "impure thoughts."
2. Taking pleasure in it is a sin.
3. Every act of sex in marriage is so sinful that it requires penance
for
its atonement.
Totally wrong.
http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/doc_view.cfm?recnum=520
** What is immoderate sexual intercourse?
Three guesses.
*** Mmmm.
1. She's on top.
2. She screams so loud when she has an orgasm that lights come on at
other houses.
3. She digitally stimulates the prostate during ejaculation in order to
drain the epididymis dry.
Backup guess: The bedframe needs to be anchored to the floor with
lagbolts.
Yeah. Something like that.
okay
--
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| Title: Re: Archbishop of Perth Says Pope is Lying ! |
20 Dec 2005 05:46:19 AM |
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 01:30:06 -0500, in alt.politics.homosexuality
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
| "newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote
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| So you
| > talk about unbiased reporting, while never a word to counter the
| > myth of a sin of homosexuality?
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| All sex outside of marriage is a sin.
How many adulterers have you stoned to death lately.
| And marriage is between a man and a woman.
Correction: man and as many women as he can support.
| Take your queer crap out of here.
Why loser?
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| User: "bam" |
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20 Dec 2005 12:07:48 PM |
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"Jeff North" <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 01:30:06 -0500, in alt.politics.homosexuality
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
| "newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote
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| So you
| > talk about unbiased reporting, while never a word to counter the
| > myth of a sin of homosexuality?
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| All sex outside of marriage is a sin.
How many adulterers have you stoned to death lately.
No need to be relevant I guess..........
| And marriage is between a man and a woman.
Correction: man and as many women as he can support.
Not in the Catholic Church, bub.
| Take your queer crap out of here.
Why loser?
Because you're grotesque.
BAM
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| User: "Jeff North" |
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20 Dec 2005 05:47:58 PM |
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 13:07:48 -0500, in alt.politics.homosexuality
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
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| "Jeff North" <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
| news:sqrfq119uqkr2ie4ulue938skap7jo3meq@4ax.com...
| > On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 01:30:06 -0500, in alt.politics.homosexuality
| > "bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
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| >>| "newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote
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| >>| So you
| >>| > talk about unbiased reporting, while never a word to counter the
| >>| > myth of a sin of homosexuality?
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| >>| All sex outside of marriage is a sin.
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| > How many adulterers have you stoned to death lately.
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| No need to be relevant I guess..........
So you don't follow the 10 commandments.
| >>| And marriage is between a man and a woman.
| >
| > Correction: man and as many women as he can support.
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| Not in the Catholic Church, bub.
Shows you don't know your own buybull.
| >>| Take your queer crap out of here.
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| > Why loser?
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| Because you're grotesque.
YOu may step away from the mirror.
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| User: "Bonnie B" |
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20 Dec 2005 01:28:33 PM |
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 13:07:48 -0500, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net>
"Jeff North" <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 01:30:06 -0500, in alt.politics.homosexuality
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
| "newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote
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| So you
| > talk about unbiased reporting, while never a word to counter the
| > myth of a sin of homosexuality?
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| All sex outside of marriage is a sin.
How many adulterers have you stoned to death lately.
No need to be relevant I guess..........
Your cult's grimoire commands it, christstain.
The smorgasbord is now officially closed.
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| User: "bam" |
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20 Dec 2005 02:25:56 PM |
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"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifispad.org> wrote
Your cult's grimoire commands it, christstain.
The smorgasbord is now officially closed.
Grimoire. Ahhh butt boy learns a new word!
BAM
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| User: "Bonnie Bitch" |
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21 Dec 2005 01:38:26 AM |
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:25:56 -0500, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net>
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifispad.org> wrote
Your cult's grimoire commands it, christstain.
The smorgasbord is now officially closed.
Grimoire. Ahhh butt boy learns a new word!
Yes, you've earned a cookie.
Glad I could educate you, Mary.
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20 Dec 2005 09:04:00 AM |
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In article <sqrfq119uqkr2ie4ulue938skap7jo3meq@4ax.com>,
jnorthau@yahoo.com.au wrote:
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 01:30:06 -0500, in alt.politics.homosexuality
"bam" <mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net> wrote:
| "newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote
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| So you
| > talk about unbiased reporting, while never a word to counter the
| > myth of a sin of homosexuality?
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| All sex outside of marriage is a sin.
How many adulterers have you stoned to death lately.
| And marriage is between a man and a woman.
Correction: man and as many women as he can support.
** In Islam, ordinary dudes are limited to 4-wives, however, there is no
limit on slave-girls and slave-boys.
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| User: "Bonnie Bitch" |
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20 Dec 2005 01:40:23 AM |
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 01:30:06 -0500, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net>
marriage is between a man and a woman.
Except when it's between two men or two women, as your cult used to
sanctify.
Boswell, John "Same-Sex Unions in Pre-Modern Europe"
New York: Vintage Books (a division of Random House) 1994
Villard Edition ISBN: 0-679-43228-0
Vintage Edition ISBN: 0-679-75164-5
And you forgot that marriage is also between one man and two OR MORE
women, as approved of in your cult's Grimoire of Death and Incest:
LIST OF BIBLICALLY APPROVED MARRIAGES, SORTED BY TYPE
POLYGYNY, Part One
One man, several wives, same race/tribe
Genesis 4:23
Genesis 28:8-9
Genesis 31:17
Genesis 32:22
Exodus 32:2
Deuteronomy 21:15
Judges 8:30
1 Samuel 1:1-2
1 Samuel 27:3
1 Chronicles 4:5
1 Chronicles 4:17
2 Chronicles 11:21
2 Chronicles 24:3
Matthew 19:8
Ephesians 5:28
POLYGYNY, Part 2
One man, several wives, interracial/intersocial
1 Kings 11:1
1 Kings 11:3
POLYGYNY/ADULTERY COMBO
One man, several wives, + mistress(-es)
Daniel 5:2
II Sam 5:13
I Kings 11:3
II Chron 11:21
VIRGINS ONLY MAY MARRY
Deut 22:13-21
NO INTERFAITH MARRIAGES
Gen 24:3
Num 25:1-9
Ezra 9:12
Neh 10:30
BROTHERS MUST MARRY THEIR DEAD BROTHER'S WIDOW
Gen. 38:6-10
Deut 25:5-10
Must you christstains always lie to make your points?
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20 Dec 2005 12:01:12 PM |
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"Bonnie *****" <bonnieb@fifispad.org> wrote in message
news:f6dfq11l30mo5g2l8sqsgi03ktqf0aha6o@4ax.com...
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 01:30:06 -0500, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net>
marriage is between a man and a woman.
Except when it's between two men or two women, as your cult used to
sanctify.
Boswell, John "Same-Sex Unions in Pre-Modern Europe"
New York: Vintage Books (a division of Random House) 1994
Villard Edition ISBN: 0-679-43228-0
Vintage Edition ISBN: 0-679-75164-5
BS.
And you forgot that marriage is also between one man and two OR MORE
women, as approved of in your cult's Grimoire of Death and Incest:
LIST OF BIBLICALLY APPROVED MARRIAGES, SORTED BY TYPE
Old Testament. You may refer to the NT where Jesus explains why, henceforth,
divorce would be impermissable.
BAM
BAM
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20 Dec 2005 01:27:12 PM |
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 13:01:12 -0500, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net>
"Bonnie *****" <bonnieb@fifispad.org> wrote in message
news:f6dfq11l30mo5g2l8sqsgi03ktqf0aha6o@4ax.com...
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 01:30:06 -0500, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net>
marriage is between a man and a woman.
Except when it's between two men or two women, as your cult used to
sanctify.
Boswell, John "Same-Sex Unions in Pre-Modern Europe"
New York: Vintage Books (a division of Random House) 1994
Villard Edition ISBN: 0-679-43228-0
Vintage Edition ISBN: 0-679-75164-5
BS.
No, Vintage Books New York.
As a smaller company, they could give Dr. Boswell, the A Whitney
Griswold lecturer and the head of the history dept. at Yale, the
attention he and his peer-reviewed, scholarly, and thoroughly
documented work deserved.
And you forgot that marriage is also between one man and two OR MORE
women, as approved of in your cult's Grimoire of Death and Incest:
LIST OF BIBLICALLY APPROVED MARRIAGES, SORTED BY TYPE
Old Testament.
So? The Grimoire of Death and Incest is not a cafeteria or a buffet
from which you may pick and choose.
Plus, if the OT is so ignorable, then why do Catholic Masses always
feature TWO readings from the OT?
Why does your alleged dead savior on a stick keep referring back to
the OT in his alleged words?
The smorgasbord is closed, honey.
You may refer to the NT where Jesus explains why, henceforth,
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20 Dec 2005 02:24:20 PM |
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"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifispad.org> wrote
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net>
marriage is between a man and a woman.
Except when it's between two men or two women, as your cult used to
sanctify.
Boswell, John "Same-Sex Unions in Pre-Modern Europe"
New York: Vintage Books (a division of Random House) 1994
Villard Edition ISBN: 0-679-43228-0
Vintage Edition ISBN: 0-679-75164-5
BS.
No, Vintage Books New York.
As a smaller company, they could give Dr. Boswell, the A Whitney
Griswold lecturer and the head of the history dept. at Yale, the
attention he and his peer-reviewed, scholarly, and thoroughly
documented work deserved.
BS.
And you forgot that marriage is also between one man and two OR MORE
women, as approved of in your cult's Grimoire of Death and Incest:
LIST OF BIBLICALLY APPROVED MARRIAGES, SORTED BY TYPE
Old Testament.
So? The Grimoire of Death and Incest is not a cafeteria or a buffet
from which you may pick and choose.
Plus, if the OT is so ignorable, then why do Catholic Masses always
feature TWO readings from the OT?
Why does your alleged dead savior on a stick keep referring back to
the OT in his alleged words?
The smorgasbord is closed, honey.
You may refer to the NT where Jesus explains why, henceforth,
Shoo.
BAM
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21 Dec 2005 01:37:14 AM |
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:24:20 -0500, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net>
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifispad.org> wrote
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net>
marriage is between a man and a woman.
Except when it's between two men or two women, as your cult used to
sanctify.
Boswell, John "Same-Sex Unions in Pre-Modern Europe"
New York: Vintage Books (a division of Random House) 1994
Villard Edition ISBN: 0-679-43228-0
Vintage Edition ISBN: 0-679-75164-5
BS.
No, Vintage Books New York.
As a smaller company, they could give Dr. Boswell, the A Whitney
Griswold lecturer and the head of the history dept. at Yale, the
attention he and his peer-reviewed, scholarly, and thoroughly
documented work deserved.
BS.
No, Vintage Books New York.
As a smaller company, they could give Dr. Boswell, the A Whitney
Griswold lecturer and the head of the history dept. at Yale, the
attention he and his peer-reviewed, scholarly, and thoroughly
documented work deserved.
Of course, if you disagree, then feel free to post your peer-reviewed,
scholarly, and thoroughly documented research. Also, if you have ever
been the chairman of a history department at any university, please
feel free to mention that.
Until then, don't project.
And you forgot that marriage is also between one man and two OR MORE
women, as approved of in your cult's Grimoire of Death and Incest:
LIST OF BIBLICALLY APPROVED MARRIAGES, SORTED BY TYPE
Old Testament.
So? The Grimoire of Death and Incest is not a cafeteria or a buffet
from which you may pick and choose.
Plus, if the OT is so ignorable, then why do Catholic Masses always
feature TWO readings from the OT?
Why does your alleged dead savior on a stick keep referring back to
the OT in his alleged words?
The smorgasbord is closed, honey.
Shoo.
Thank you for conceding the argument, in a manner that passes for
polite in your trailer park.
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| User: "bam" |
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| Title: Re: Archbishop of Perth Says Pope is Lying ! |
21 Dec 2005 07:29:38 AM |
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"Bonnie *****" <bonnieb@fifispad.org> wrote in message
news:qb1iq19ei9kbp539sjsa06vjuvjl19oafg@4ax.com...
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:24:20 -0500, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net>
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifispad.org> wrote
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net>
marriage is between a man and a woman.
Except when it's between two men or two women, as your cult used to
sanctify.
Boswell, John "Same-Sex Unions in Pre-Modern Europe"
New York: Vintage Books (a division of Random House) 1994
Villard Edition ISBN: 0-679-43228-0
Vintage Edition ISBN: 0-679-75164-5
BS.
No, Vintage Books New York.
As a smaller company, they could give Dr. Boswell, the A Whitney
Griswold lecturer and the head of the history dept. at Yale, the
attention he and his peer-reviewed, scholarly, and thoroughly
documented work deserved.
BS.
No, Vintage Books New York.
As a smaller company, they could give Dr. Boswell, the A Whitney
Griswold lecturer and the head of the history dept. at Yale, the
attention he and his peer-reviewed, scholarly, and thoroughly
documented work deserved.
Of course, if you disagree, then feel free to post your peer-reviewed,
scholarly, and thoroughly documented research. Also, if you have ever
been the chairman of a history department at any university, please
feel free to mention that.
Until then, don't project.
And you forgot that marriage is also between one man and two OR MORE
women, as approved of in your cult's Grimoire of Death and Incest:
LIST OF BIBLICALLY APPROVED MARRIAGES, SORTED BY TYPE
Old Testament.
So? The Grimoire of Death and Incest is not a cafeteria or a buffet
from which you may pick and choose.
Plus, if the OT is so ignorable, then why do Catholic Masses always
feature TWO readings from the OT?
Why does your alleged dead savior on a stick keep referring back to
the OT in his alleged words?
The smorgasbord is closed, honey.
Shoo.
Thank you for conceding the argument, in a manner that passes for
polite in your trailer park.
You're a real wordsmith, Bonnie.
BAM
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| User: "Bonnie Bitch" |
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| Title: Re: Archbishop of Perth Says Pope is Lying ! |
21 Dec 2005 11:48:18 AM |
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 08:29:38 -0500, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net>
"Bonnie *****" <bonnieb@fifispad.org> wrote in message
news:qb1iq19ei9kbp539sjsa06vjuvjl19oafg@4ax.com...
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:24:20 -0500, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of "bam"
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net>
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifispad.org> wrote
<mcca5761@bellsouthblahblah.net>
marriage is between a man and a woman.
Except when it's between two men or two women, as your cult used to
sanctify.
Boswell, John "Same-Sex Unions in Pre-Modern Europe"
New York: Vintage Books (a division of Random House) 1994
Villard Edition ISBN: 0-679-43228-0
Vintage Edition ISBN: 0-679-75164-5
BS.
No, Vintage Books New York.
As a smaller company, they could give Dr. Boswell, the A Whitney
Griswold lecturer and the head of the history dept. at Yale, the
attention he and his peer-reviewed, scholarly, and thoroughly
documented work deserved.
BS.
No, Vintage Books New York.
As a smaller company, they could give Dr. Boswell, the A Whitney
Griswold lecturer and the head of the history dept. at Yale, the
attention he and his peer-reviewed, scholarly, and thoroughly
documented work deserved.
Of course, if you disagree, then feel free to post your peer-reviewed,
scholarly, and thoroughly documented research. Also, if you have ever
been the chairman of a history department at any university, please
feel free to mention that.
Until then, don't project.
And you forgot that marriage is also between one man and two OR MORE
women, as approved of in your cult's Grimoire of Death and Incest:
LIST OF BIBLICALLY APPROVED MARRIAGES, SORTED BY TYPE
Old Testament.
So? The Grimoire of Death and Incest is not a cafeteria or a buffet
from which you may pick and choose.
Plus, if the OT is so ignorable, then why do Catholic Masses always
feature TWO readings from the OT?
Why does your alleged dead savior on a stick keep referring back to
the OT in his alleged words?
The smorgasbord is closed, honey.
Shoo.
Thank you for conceding the argument, in a manner that passes for
polite in your trailer park.
You're a real wordsmith, Bonnie.
And it's still pearls before a pig named Bryan.
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| User: "newzguys" |
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| Title: Re: Archbishop of Perth Says Pope is Lying ! |
21 Dec 2005 09:18:33 PM |
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bam wrote:
"newzguys" <newzguys@yahoo.com> wrote
So you
talk about unbiased reporting, while never a word to counter the
myth of a sin of homosexuality?
All sex outside of marriage is a sin.
Then you might want to explain how a "Wife" can be divorced for
fornication (Mat 5:32). If fornication is sex out of wedlock then
it sure is funny that a wife can be divorced (put away) for
fornication. And in every case the word used for fornication
translates to being a ***** to temple prostitution. In other
words fornication is sex in the worship of false gods. There is
no sin of sex out of wedlock, another, Pope lie.
2 Sam 13:10-13 You could have sex with your sister even if
you asked the father first, so that you did not violate his property
rights. His daughter was his property to give to whom ever he
pleased, married or not.
Numbers 31:
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill
every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying
with him, keep alive for yourselves.
Genesis 19:
36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.
And marriage is between a man and a woman.
1 Samuel 18:
21 And Saul said, I will give him her, that she may be a
snare to him, and that the hand of the Philistines may be
upon him. And Saul said to David, Thou shalt this day be my
son-in-law a second time.
The Marriage contract of David and Jonathan in the polyandrous
marriage of David to Michal and Jonathan.
2 Samuel 21:
7 But the king spared Mephibosheth, the son of Jonathan the
son of Saul, because of the LORD'S oath that was between them,
between David and Jonathan the son of Saul.
Psa 133:
1 A Song of degrees of David. Behold, how good and how pleasant
it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!
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Dan 1:
9 Now God had brought Daniel into favour and tender love with the
prince of the eunuchs.
Take your queer crap out of here.
Take your homophobic crap out of the bible, it does not exist there.
It is a physical impossibility that there is a sin of homosexuality
in the bible, they had no words for nor a concept of homosexuality
when the bible was written.
For a full history of the concept of homosexuality see:
Legal history
http://hnn.us/articles/1539.html
Medical history
http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk/social14.htm
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Archbishop of Perth Says Pope is Lying ! |
17 Dec 2005 04:11:53 AM |
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newzguys wrote:
The Pope says that homosexuality is a grave sin, the Archbishop
of Perth says, that is impossible.
Then the Archbishop contradicts the teaching of the Roman Catholic
Church. His problem.
"The same applies to the concept of an 'exclusively homosexually
orientated person.'
What does "the same" refer to?
Homosexual orientation is *not* a Sin -- homosexual practice is. And
that's what the RCC means by "homosexuality*.
This was a discovery of only 150 years ago.
What was a discovery 150 years ago? That some blokes like to insert
their todgers into other guys' butt`s? C'mon, the Anciet Greeks did
it, the Bible talks about it...
Go to the Bible and it simply is not there.
Only if you tear out the relevant pages.
Often, people speak
of the clear Biblical teaching about how to deal pastorally
with homosexual people, but that is a real howler. The Bible
knows nothing of the existence of homosexual people.
Well, it does know of the existance of men who "lie with a male as with
a woman" and that is condemned as an "abomination" in Leviticus 18:22.
The Bible also uses the Greek word "arsenokoites" (1 Corinthians 6:9),
which basically means blokes shoving their willies into other blokes'
buttholes. And that's what it amounts to at the end of the day,
doesn't it?
DH
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| User: "newzguys" |
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| Title: Re: Archbishop of Perth Says Pope is Lying ! |
18 Dec 2005 10:47:51 PM |
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wrote:
newzguys wrote:
The Pope says that homosexuality is a grave sin, the Archbishop
of Perth says, that is impossible.
Then the Archbishop contradicts the teaching of the Roman Catholic
Church. His problem.
And Galileo contradicted the teaching of the Roman Catholic
Church and was correct. You are risking your soul on a "man"
who has a homosexual agenda of hate, being a Nazi Youth
in the service of puting homosexuals to death. The truth is
the truth, no matter who is saying it, as well as a lie is a
lie even if the Pope is saying it. They covered up the truth
for 300+ years on Galileo, as they are covering up the truth
of the mythical sin of homosexuality. You willing to bet your
soul on this Pope telling you the truth? I doubt saying the
Pope said so will buy your way into heaven.
"The same applies to the concept of an 'exclusively homosexually
orientated person.'
What does "the same" refer to?
Case in point of the inability to take sentences in context. No
wonder below you take verses out of context to make pretext
of the truth.
Homosexual orientation is *not* a Sin -- homosexual practice is. And
that's what the RCC means by "homosexuality*.
And the difference being what? If a person commits a murder,
he can't say I'm a good guy it is only the act that was bad.
There was no words for nor a concept of homosexuality at the
time the bible was written, therefore it is an impossibility that
there is a sin of homosexuality or of a homosexual act.
This was a discovery of only 150 years ago.
What was a discovery 150 years ago? That some blokes like to insert
their todgers into other guys' butt`s? C'mon, the Anciet Greeks did
it, the Bible talks about it...
The bible only talks about temple prostitution, as a sin of
idolatry. Nothing the Greeks did makes a difference, only the
intent made a difference.
Mark 7:
18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do
ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the
man, it cannot defile him;
....
23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.
It was not what they were doing, it was why.
Go to the Bible and it simply is not there.
Only if you tear out the relevant pages.
Or add a concept of homosexuality that was not invented until 1868
Often, people speak
of the clear Biblical teaching about how to deal pastorally
with homosexual people, but that is a real howler. The Bible
knows nothing of the existence of homosexual people.
Well, it does know of the existance of men who "lie with a male as with
a woman" and that is condemned as an "abomination" in Leviticus 18:22.
Funny how you just leave out the verse before this telling to
not give seed (semen) to Baal-Molech which is the context
of the verse Leviticus 18:22, and Lev 20:2-5 is the context for
Leviticus 20:13. The word abomination tow`ebah is a ritual
abomination, is two guys having sex for a little slap and tickle
a sexual ritual act?
The Bible also uses the Greek word "arsenokoites" (1 Corinthians 6:9),
which basically means blokes shoving their willies into other blokes'
buttholes. And that's what it amounts to at the end of the day,
doesn't it?
Arsenokoites means
1) one who lies with a male as with a female, a sodomite.
A sodomite "qadesh" is a Male temple prostitute.
http://www.khouse.org/cgi-bin.blb/strongs.pl?book=Deu&chapter=23&verse=17&strongs=06945
In otherwords the person having sex with the male temple prostitute
in an idolatrous act.
Paul Lived in Corinth for a year an a half a saw all manner of
temple prostitution, which he wrote in the rest of the chapter
you lot always leave out, as the context is 1 Cor 6:9-20,
temple prostitution and idolatry. And is also the context of
Rom 1:23-27, because Romans was written in Corinth a
notorious city of temple prostitution.
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