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Religions > Atheism |
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"Liberals Are Cowards" |
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24 Apr 2004 07:00:59 PM |
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ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY?? |
ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY??
9/20/2002
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Many infants are born throughout the world community with physical and
mental defects. All of the defects are rightly considered to be
abnormalities which justify efforts to remove them, to discover their
causes, and to prevent further occurrences. You will never hear of a
case wherein a government or anyone in the fields of science,
medicine, psychiatry, etc. uses any kind of rationalization in effort
to justify the abnormalities or to label them as normal conditions on
the basis that the people who have them were born that way. Even
nonphysical mental retardation, cerebral palsy, seizure disorders, and
attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) are all considered
abnormalities for which cures are rightly being sought.
However, when it comes to the nonphysical immoral abnormality of
homosexuality, a strange, inverted spirit exerts a deceptive influence
upon the thinking of people who are ignorant, naive, deceived, and
moral
criminals. "Born that way" is used to deceptively justify the
existence, remove all stigma, and create tolerance for the horrific
crime of homosexuality.
If it is true that homosexuals are born as homosexuals, why is their
heteromorphic condition not regarded as a defect in light of the facts
that their inverted thoughts, demeanor, unclean desires, and lifestyle
are
departures from what is right for humans in the senses that they are
against nature or contrary to the way God has intended humans to
function - the institution of marriage is corrupted; conjugal
relationships are corrupted; the act is unnatural and highly
unhygienic; the act has not been designed by God to propagate
humanity; the condition is a detriment in every way to the mental,
physical, and moral well-being of children and the rest of humankind,
etc.?
If it is true that homosexuals are born as homosexuals, and if it is
true that homosexuality should not be regarded as a defect, why are
people who are born as hermaphrodites rightly regarded as having a
birth defect? Homosexuality does far more harm to humanity than what
the uncorrected hermaphroditic condition can ever do. The homosexual
has a spiritual and moral defect which has no right of existence just
as much as the hermaphrodite has a physical defect which needs
correcting. If it is true that homosexuals are born as homosexuals, it
is the responsibility of government and society to correctly label,
legally stigmatize and criminalize it as a terrible moral defect on
which government and society should use drastic effort to correct,
discover its social causes, and correctly assess its damnable effects
on society and humanity. Furthermore, they should make aggressive
efforts to punish it to prevent further occurrences.
The truth about homosexuality should be discerned from the fact that
the all-wise and all-knowing God -- the One who created humans and
therefore knows what's best for them -- has condemned effeminate males
(1 Corinthians 6:9-10) and masculine females (Romans 1:26-27). He also
has condemned homosexuality as an abomination (Leviticus 18:22) and
has prescribed for such a crime the penalty of death by the hands of
corporeal government (Leviticus 20:13). The penalty is to be extended
to people who merely commit the act, people who sympathize with
homosexuals, and people who seek to promote tolerance in society for
not only such people but also their criminal condition and life-style.
But it should be duly noted that God has
not condemned in any way people who are born as hermaphrodites or
anyone else who has been or will be born with any other physical or
mental birth defect. Those facts suggest that the hermaphroditic
condition and the rest are noncriminal defects.
However, homosexuality is a spiritual, moral, and partly mental
defect, created in some cases after birth. It takes hold of people
through the total depravity of their own being. From within their
intrinsic depravity, the learning or creation processes in many cases
are induced in them at an early age (which helps create the illusion
that these were born that way) by heathen or homosexual parents,
heathen or homosexual relatives and friends, and a heathen
environment. As it is being created in children, it is tolerated or
nurtured by their environment and society, protected by heathen
governments, and thereafter maintained by each homosexual through
their total depravity, deliberate choice, and blatant defiance of what
is right for their gender. Thus, in the end, heathens see the need to
seek cures for or prevent the occurrences of physical and mental
abnormalities which are noncriminal, but seek to justify and establish
moral sicknesses and depravity which are criminal. The former defects
do not create an evil society, but the latter creates hell on earth.
If it is true that homosexuals are born as homosexuals, why isn't the
inverted condition apparent at birth as indisputable proof that they
are born that way? Why can't medical technology of some type be used
to reveal that some males and females are gay at birth? No such
technology exists because homosexuality is not a physical condition
but a spiritual and moral one. Homosexuality is created in people in
at least three ways: 1. People are taught or induced in their early
years to be gay; 2. people make a conscious choice from the depravity
of their own hearts to live such a lifestyle; 3. some homosexuals are
possessed by one or more gay demons. Those who become homosexuals
through the first two ways are not born as homosexuals and can
possibly refuse to practice their inverted desires. But the males and
females who become gay as a result of demon possession may get
possessed in the womb before their birth. Others people may get
possessed at some point after birth. Those who are possessed are
compelled to live as
homosexuals and can't turn from it. Thus the claim that homosexuals
are born that way is indeed true for some of them. But having been
born that way or having been possessed by a gay demon in no way
legitimizes their condition and their indecent acts. The fact that
they were born that way turns out to be indisputable proof of the
Biblical truth that humans are conceived in iniquity and born as
thoroughly depraved sinners and as slaves of satan.
Every human is born with the seed or intrinsic principle of depravity
called the "law of sin". However, not all manifest their depravity
through homosexuality. The principle of sin begins the process of
producing evil fruit in various ways in the lives of humans at some
point after their birth and throughout their later lives. It produces
fruit in some people through more heinous ways than in others, and in
yet others with more or less restraint than some. Having been born
with the intrinsic principle of depravity in no way legitimizes any of
the depraved acts and compulsions which spring from it. Homosexuality
is one of the more heinous fruits of the law of sin. Its extreme
heinousness is indicated through the death sentence
God requires for it and through its most sinister and deceptive
ability to justify and establish itself as if it is legitimate.
Government should be in the business of curbing and punishing all acts
of depravity, not
legitimizing and protecting them. Homosexuality has no true right of
existence, and it is the God-given responsibility of corporeal
governments to do the proper things to remove it from society.
As stated several times before, homosexuality has no right to
existence. In order for it to exist, it has to silence or crush its
opposition. The only real opposition it has comes from proper moral
laws and the people who hold to them. Thus, homosexuality thrives by
suppressing righteousness and the people who rightly oppose
homosexuality. It does the former by aggressive and successful efforts
to deceive the public against the high criminality of homosexuality in
order to create tolerance for it, and by placing themselves
in respectable and key positions in order to create laws in favor of
it and to get government to protect it. It does the later by
incongruently stigmatizing those who rightly oppose it with labels
designed to deceptively
portray them as having some type of mental defect and as those who
express an unjust hatred for homosexuality. The undeserved stigma that
is placed upon thoes who rightly oppose homosexuality turns out to be
a great injustice done to them just for heathens to enjoy their nasty
compulsion and acts of depravity which in the end has dire effects
upon society. Such injustice is allowed and backed by the american
government.
"I'm against willfully induced abortions for any reason. But if there
could ever be truly justifiable reasons for pregnant females to have
abortions, none would be more justified than the cases wherein the
females could receive true knowledge that they are carrying
homosexuals in their wombs. On the basis of Leviticus 20:13, I
wholeheartedly support abortions in such cases." (Robert T. Lee)
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY?? |
24 Apr 2004 09:51:10 PM |
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"Liberals Are Cowards" <bolwerx_x9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:308a7d00.0404241600.4a7d980e@posting.google.com...
ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY??
9/20/2002
*************************
Many infants are born throughout the world community with physical and
mental defects. All of the defects are rightly considered to be
abnormalities which justify efforts to remove them, to discover their
causes, and to prevent further occurrences. You will never hear of a
case wherein a government or anyone in the fields of science,
medicine, psychiatry, etc. uses any kind of rationalization in effort
to justify the abnormalities or to label them as normal conditions on
the basis that the people who have them were born that way. Even
nonphysical mental retardation, cerebral palsy, seizure disorders, and
attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) are all considered
abnormalities for which cures are rightly being sought.
However, when it comes to the nonphysical immoral abnormality of
homosexuality, a strange, inverted spirit exerts a deceptive influence
upon the thinking of people who are ignorant, naive, deceived, and
moral
criminals. "Born that way" is used to deceptively justify the
existence, remove all stigma, and create tolerance for the horrific
crime of homosexuality.
(othere religious bigotry and ignorance deleted.)
No matter how many times you change your name and address,
you are still nothing more than an ignoramus, bigot, religious
fanatic and troll.
<Re, re, re, re-plonk!>
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| User: "Scratch" |
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| Title: Re: ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY?? |
24 Apr 2004 10:16:42 PM |
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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4LednXMXa5AJuhbdRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
"Liberals Are Cowards" <bolwerx_x9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:308a7d00.0404241600.4a7d980e@posting.google.com...
ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY??
9/20/2002
*************************
Many infants are born throughout the world community with physical and
mental defects. All of the defects are rightly considered to be
abnormalities which justify efforts to remove them, to discover their
causes, and to prevent further occurrences. You will never hear of a
case wherein a government or anyone in the fields of science,
medicine, psychiatry, etc. uses any kind of rationalization in effort
to justify the abnormalities or to label them as normal conditions on
the basis that the people who have them were born that way. Even
nonphysical mental retardation, cerebral palsy, seizure disorders, and
attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) are all considered
abnormalities for which cures are rightly being sought.
However, when it comes to the nonphysical immoral abnormality of
homosexuality, a strange, inverted spirit exerts a deceptive influence
upon the thinking of people who are ignorant, naive, deceived, and
moral
criminals. "Born that way" is used to deceptively justify the
existence, remove all stigma, and create tolerance for the horrific
crime of homosexuality.
(othere religious bigotry and ignorance deleted.)
No matter how many times you change your name and address,
you are still nothing more than an ignoramus, bigot, religious
fanatic and troll.
<Re, re, re, re-plonk!>
It was a sick perversion when I was a kid and that has never, nor will it
change no matter how bad the sick fucks of this society want to make it so.
Some jackasses in our society are accepting of ANYTHING. Whats next Murder
as not an abnormality but a miss understood group of future thinkers?
What a sick sick way to think!
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| User: "WinGuru" |
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| Title: Re: ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY?? |
24 Apr 2004 11:59:26 PM |
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"Scratch" <little_time@fewyears.com> wrote in message
news:108mbcnkvqmnh70@corp.supernews.com...
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4LednXMXa5AJuhbdRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
"Liberals Are Cowards" <bolwerx_x9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:308a7d00.0404241600.4a7d980e@posting.google.com...
ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY??
9/20/2002
*************************
Many infants are born throughout the world community with physical and
mental defects. All of the defects are rightly considered to be
abnormalities which justify efforts to remove them, to discover their
causes, and to prevent further occurrences. You will never hear of a
case wherein a government or anyone in the fields of science,
medicine, psychiatry, etc. uses any kind of rationalization in effort
to justify the abnormalities or to label them as normal conditions on
the basis that the people who have them were born that way. Even
nonphysical mental retardation, cerebral palsy, seizure disorders, and
attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) are all considered
abnormalities for which cures are rightly being sought.
However, when it comes to the nonphysical immoral abnormality of
homosexuality, a strange, inverted spirit exerts a deceptive influence
upon the thinking of people who are ignorant, naive, deceived, and
moral
criminals. "Born that way" is used to deceptively justify the
existence, remove all stigma, and create tolerance for the horrific
crime of homosexuality.
(othere religious bigotry and ignorance deleted.)
No matter how many times you change your name and address,
you are still nothing more than an ignoramus, bigot, religious
fanatic and troll.
<Re, re, re, re-plonk!>
It was a sick perversion when I was a kid and that has never, nor will it
change no matter how bad the sick fucks of this society want to make it
so.
Some jackasses in our society are accepting of ANYTHING. Whats next Murder
as not an abnormality but a miss understood group of future thinkers?
What a sick sick way to think!
Ask Laura Bush. She killed her boyfriend and got away with it.
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| User: "Jon" |
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| Title: Re: ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY?? |
25 Apr 2004 02:56:21 AM |
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"WinGuru" <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote in message
news:408b4cac$1@nntp0.pdx.net...
"Scratch" <little_time@fewyears.com> wrote in message
news:108mbcnkvqmnh70@corp.supernews.com...
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4LednXMXa5AJuhbdRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
"Liberals Are Cowards" <bolwerx_x9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:308a7d00.0404241600.4a7d980e@posting.google.com...
ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY??
9/20/2002
*************************
Many infants are born throughout the world community with physical
and
mental defects. All of the defects are rightly considered to be
abnormalities which justify efforts to remove them, to discover their
causes, and to prevent further occurrences. You will never hear of a
case wherein a government or anyone in the fields of science,
medicine, psychiatry, etc. uses any kind of rationalization in effort
to justify the abnormalities or to label them as normal conditions on
the basis that the people who have them were born that way. Even
nonphysical mental retardation, cerebral palsy, seizure disorders,
and
attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) are all considered
abnormalities for which cures are rightly being sought.
However, when it comes to the nonphysical immoral abnormality of
homosexuality, a strange, inverted spirit exerts a deceptive
influence
upon the thinking of people who are ignorant, naive, deceived, and
moral
criminals. "Born that way" is used to deceptively justify the
existence, remove all stigma, and create tolerance for the horrific
crime of homosexuality.
(othere religious bigotry and ignorance deleted.)
No matter how many times you change your name and address,
you are still nothing more than an ignoramus, bigot, religious
fanatic and troll.
<Re, re, re, re-plonk!>
It was a sick perversion when I was a kid and that has never, nor will
it
change no matter how bad the sick fucks of this society want to make it
so.
Some jackasses in our society are accepting of ANYTHING. Whats next
Murder
as not an abnormality but a miss understood group of future thinkers?
What a sick sick way to think!
Ask Laura Bush. She killed her boyfriend and got away with it.
And lets not forget to ask Ted Kennedy about Mary Jo Kopechne....
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| User: "Scratch" |
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| Title: Re: ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY?? |
25 Apr 2004 08:48:32 PM |
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"WinGuru" <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote in message
news:408b4cac$1@nntp0.pdx.net...
"Scratch" <little_time@fewyears.com> wrote in message
news:108mbcnkvqmnh70@corp.supernews.com...
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4LednXMXa5AJuhbdRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
"Liberals Are Cowards" <bolwerx_x9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:308a7d00.0404241600.4a7d980e@posting.google.com...
ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY??
9/20/2002
*************************
Many infants are born throughout the world community with physical
and
mental defects. All of the defects are rightly considered to be
abnormalities which justify efforts to remove them, to discover their
causes, and to prevent further occurrences. You will never hear of a
case wherein a government or anyone in the fields of science,
medicine, psychiatry, etc. uses any kind of rationalization in effort
to justify the abnormalities or to label them as normal conditions on
the basis that the people who have them were born that way. Even
nonphysical mental retardation, cerebral palsy, seizure disorders,
and
attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) are all considered
abnormalities for which cures are rightly being sought.
However, when it comes to the nonphysical immoral abnormality of
homosexuality, a strange, inverted spirit exerts a deceptive
influence
upon the thinking of people who are ignorant, naive, deceived, and
moral
criminals. "Born that way" is used to deceptively justify the
existence, remove all stigma, and create tolerance for the horrific
crime of homosexuality.
(othere religious bigotry and ignorance deleted.)
No matter how many times you change your name and address,
you are still nothing more than an ignoramus, bigot, religious
fanatic and troll.
<Re, re, re, re-plonk!>
It was a sick perversion when I was a kid and that has never, nor will
it
change no matter how bad the sick fucks of this society want to make it
so.
Some jackasses in our society are accepting of ANYTHING. Whats next
Murder
as not an abnormality but a miss understood group of future thinkers?
What a sick sick way to think!
Ask Laura Bush. She killed her boyfriend and got away with it.
Oh please win goofy, are you sure your not talking about one of your leaders
by the name of kennedy? Remember a little incident of drowning.
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| User: "WinGuru" |
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| Title: Re: ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY?? |
26 Apr 2004 12:39:13 AM |
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"Scratch" <little_time@fewyears.com> wrote in message
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"WinGuru" <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote in message
news:408b4cac$1@nntp0.pdx.net...
"Scratch" <little_time@fewyears.com> wrote in message
news:108mbcnkvqmnh70@corp.supernews.com...
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4LednXMXa5AJuhbdRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
"Liberals Are Cowards" <bolwerx_x9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:308a7d00.0404241600.4a7d980e@posting.google.com...
ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY??
9/20/2002
*************************
Many infants are born throughout the world community with physical
and
mental defects. All of the defects are rightly considered to be
abnormalities which justify efforts to remove them, to discover
their
causes, and to prevent further occurrences. You will never hear of a
case wherein a government or anyone in the fields of science,
medicine, psychiatry, etc. uses any kind of rationalization in
effort
to justify the abnormalities or to label them as normal conditions
on
the basis that the people who have them were born that way. Even
nonphysical mental retardation, cerebral palsy, seizure disorders,
and
attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) are all considered
abnormalities for which cures are rightly being sought.
However, when it comes to the nonphysical immoral abnormality of
homosexuality, a strange, inverted spirit exerts a deceptive
influence
upon the thinking of people who are ignorant, naive, deceived, and
moral
criminals. "Born that way" is used to deceptively justify the
existence, remove all stigma, and create tolerance for the horrific
crime of homosexuality.
(othere religious bigotry and ignorance deleted.)
No matter how many times you change your name and address,
you are still nothing more than an ignoramus, bigot, religious
fanatic and troll.
<Re, re, re, re-plonk!>
It was a sick perversion when I was a kid and that has never, nor will
it
change no matter how bad the sick fucks of this society want to make it
so.
Some jackasses in our society are accepting of ANYTHING. Whats next
Murder
as not an abnormality but a miss understood group of future thinkers?
What a sick sick way to think!
Ask Laura Bush. She killed her boyfriend and got away with it.
Oh please win goofy, are you sure your not talking about one of your
leaders
by the name of kennedy? Remember a little incident of drowning.
I am explicitly talking about Laura Bush - clearly the rightwingnuts give
Laura a pass on the killing of her boyfriend. I don't know anyone who has
given TK a pass on that accident.
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| User: "Jon" |
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| Title: Re: ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY?? |
26 Apr 2004 01:12:14 AM |
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"WinGuru" <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote in message
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"Scratch" <little_time@fewyears.com> wrote in message
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"WinGuru" <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote in message
news:408b4cac$1@nntp0.pdx.net...
"Scratch" <little_time@fewyears.com> wrote in message
news:108mbcnkvqmnh70@corp.supernews.com...
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4LednXMXa5AJuhbdRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
"Liberals Are Cowards" <bolwerx_x9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:308a7d00.0404241600.4a7d980e@posting.google.com...
ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY??
9/20/2002
*************************
Many infants are born throughout the world community with physical
and
mental defects. All of the defects are rightly considered to be
abnormalities which justify efforts to remove them, to discover
their
causes, and to prevent further occurrences. You will never hear of
a
case wherein a government or anyone in the fields of science,
medicine, psychiatry, etc. uses any kind of rationalization in
effort
to justify the abnormalities or to label them as normal conditions
on
the basis that the people who have them were born that way. Even
nonphysical mental retardation, cerebral palsy, seizure disorders,
and
attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) are all considered
abnormalities for which cures are rightly being sought.
However, when it comes to the nonphysical immoral abnormality of
homosexuality, a strange, inverted spirit exerts a deceptive
influence
upon the thinking of people who are ignorant, naive, deceived, and
moral
criminals. "Born that way" is used to deceptively justify the
existence, remove all stigma, and create tolerance for the
horrific
crime of homosexuality.
(othere religious bigotry and ignorance deleted.)
No matter how many times you change your name and address,
you are still nothing more than an ignoramus, bigot, religious
fanatic and troll.
<Re, re, re, re-plonk!>
It was a sick perversion when I was a kid and that has never, nor
will
it
change no matter how bad the sick fucks of this society want to make
it
so.
Some jackasses in our society are accepting of ANYTHING. Whats next
Murder
as not an abnormality but a miss understood group of future thinkers?
What a sick sick way to think!
Ask Laura Bush. She killed her boyfriend and got away with it.
Oh please win goofy, are you sure your not talking about one of your
leaders
by the name of kennedy? Remember a little incident of drowning.
I am explicitly talking about Laura Bush - clearly the rightwingnuts give
Laura a pass on the killing of her boyfriend. I don't know anyone who has
given TK a pass on that accident.
I did some net searching, and what I got from everything (other than on the
Bush-hater propaganda sites) was that she did apparently run the stop sign,
but it was basically inexperienced driving (she was 17), and a notoriously
bad intersection in that town. And the fact that his father was following
him in another car (according to the articles I read) makes me think it
wasnt a "hit" as the Bush haters make it out to be. It was just another
small town accident at a bad intersection.
I also found an interesting article relating to Kennedy though. It turns out
that a bit after the Chappaquiddik (sp?) incident, the same thing happened
in Salem, where a car went off a ferry into the Willamette. The passenger
drowned, and the driver got out ok. The driver was charged with
manslaughter. It may have been just an "accident", but I guess we will never
know.
About either one.
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| User: "yaya " |
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| Title: Re: ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY?? |
25 Apr 2004 12:22:54 AM |
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 20:16:42 -0700, "Scratch"
<little_time@fewyears.com> wrote:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4LednXMXa5AJuhbdRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
"Liberals Are Cowards" <bolwerx_x9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:308a7d00.0404241600.4a7d980e@posting.google.com...
ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY??
9/20/2002
*************************
Many infants are born throughout the world community with physical and
mental defects. All of the defects are rightly considered to be
abnormalities which justify efforts to remove them, to discover their
causes, and to prevent further occurrences. You will never hear of a
case wherein a government or anyone in the fields of science,
medicine, psychiatry, etc. uses any kind of rationalization in effort
to justify the abnormalities or to label them as normal conditions on
the basis that the people who have them were born that way. Even
nonphysical mental retardation, cerebral palsy, seizure disorders, and
attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) are all considered
abnormalities for which cures are rightly being sought.
However, when it comes to the nonphysical immoral abnormality of
homosexuality, a strange, inverted spirit exerts a deceptive influence
upon the thinking of people who are ignorant, naive, deceived, and
moral
criminals. "Born that way" is used to deceptively justify the
existence, remove all stigma, and create tolerance for the horrific
crime of homosexuality.
(othere religious bigotry and ignorance deleted.)
No matter how many times you change your name and address,
you are still nothing more than an ignoramus, bigot, religious
fanatic and troll.
<Re, re, re, re-plonk!>
It was a sick perversion when I was a kid and that has never, nor will it
change no matter how bad the sick fucks of this society want to make it so.
Some jackasses in our society are accepting of ANYTHING. Whats next Murder
as not an abnormality but a miss understood group of future thinkers?
What a sick sick way to think!
It would sure be nice for sure to know what role our genes have to
play in homosexuals. Perhaps it would be something that could be
screened for in the future?
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| Title: Re: ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY?? |
26 Apr 2004 05:51:32 AM |
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(Liberals Are Cowards) wrote in message news:<308a7d00.0404241600.4a7d980e@posting.google.com>...
ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY??
Surely a more relevant question is what is it that turns somebody into
such a bitter and twisted person ?
The rant originally posted would not have been out of place in Adolf
Hitler's Third Reich.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY?? |
25 Apr 2004 03:53:56 PM |
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On 24 Apr 2004 17:00:59 -0700, (Liberals Are
Cowards) wrote:
ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY??
9/20/2002
<snip>
Shouldn't anybody have the right to choose their life's course once
they attain the legal age of adulthood anyway?
If not, why not?
drift
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| User: "Scratch" |
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| Title: Re: ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY?? |
25 Apr 2004 08:53:10 PM |
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<drift@lost.net> wrote in message
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On 24 Apr 2004 17:00:59 -0700, (Liberals Are
Cowards) wrote:
ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY??
9/20/2002
<snip>
Shouldn't anybody have the right to choose their life's course once
they attain the legal age of adulthood anyway?
If not, why not?
You mean like being queer? Go on you can say it. What's next Make playing
with underage boys LEGAL? Start with the acceptence of one perversion next
thing you know................ Even animals in the wild don't put up with
it.
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| User: "WinGuru" |
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| Title: Re: ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY?? |
26 Apr 2004 12:40:58 AM |
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"Scratch" <little_time@fewyears.com> wrote in message
news:108or5ta84f4sba@corp.supernews.com...
<drift@lost.net> wrote in message
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On 24 Apr 2004 17:00:59 -0700, (Liberals Are
Cowards) wrote:
ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY??
9/20/2002
<snip>
Shouldn't anybody have the right to choose their life's course once
they attain the legal age of adulthood anyway?
If not, why not?
You mean like being queer? Go on you can say it. What's next Make playing
with underage boys LEGAL? Start with the acceptence of one perversion next
thing you know................ Even animals in the wild don't put up with
it.
It's called ADULTHOOD - consenting adults choosing actions that don't affect
others. You do understand adulthood - don't you?
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| User: "Khendon" |
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| Title: Re: ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY?? |
26 Apr 2004 12:56:10 AM |
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"WinGuru" <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote in message
news:408ca7ca$1@nntp0.pdx.net...
"Scratch" <little_time@fewyears.com> wrote in message
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<drift@lost.net> wrote in message
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On 24 Apr 2004 17:00:59 -0700, (Liberals Are
Cowards) wrote:
ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY??
9/20/2002
<snip>
Shouldn't anybody have the right to choose their life's course once
they attain the legal age of adulthood anyway?
If not, why not?
You mean like being queer? Go on you can say it. What's next Make
playing
with underage boys LEGAL? Start with the acceptence of one perversion
next
thing you know................ Even animals in the wild don't put up
with
it.
It's called ADULTHOOD - consenting adults choosing actions that don't
affect
others. You do understand adulthood - don't you?
I just love the circles that the bigots twist themselves in.
First, it's "no animals out there have same-sex couplings!"
Then, once you show them the scientific evidence that proves that same-sex
coupling is perfectly *Natural* (see the book "Biological Exuberance" by
Bruce Bagemhil for the evidence of this)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/031225377X/qid=1082958621/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-7701767-5403056?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
they immediately reverse course and say "What, now you're no better than an
animal?"
Hate to tell them, but, if something occurs in *Nature*, it then is
*Natural* - and it's merely part of the wonderful diversity of life on this
little planet of ours...
Silly, silly bigots...
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| User: "yaya " |
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| Title: Re: ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY?? |
28 Apr 2004 09:47:58 PM |
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On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 05:56:10 GMT, "Khendon"
<Khendon@deletecomcast.net> wrote:
"WinGuru" <anonymous@anonymous.com> wrote in message
news:408ca7ca$1@nntp0.pdx.net...
"Scratch" <little_time@fewyears.com> wrote in message
news:108or5ta84f4sba@corp.supernews.com...
<drift@lost.net> wrote in message
news:s29o805fgv0pruv72ph55lvicdm865d2gu@4ax.com...
On 24 Apr 2004 17:00:59 -0700, (Liberals Are
Cowards) wrote:
ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY??
9/20/2002
<snip>
Shouldn't anybody have the right to choose their life's course once
they attain the legal age of adulthood anyway?
If not, why not?
You mean like being queer? Go on you can say it. What's next Make
playing
with underage boys LEGAL? Start with the acceptence of one perversion
next
thing you know................ Even animals in the wild don't put up
with
it.
It's called ADULTHOOD - consenting adults choosing actions that don't
affect
others. You do understand adulthood - don't you?
I just love the circles that the bigots twist themselves in.
First, it's "no animals out there have same-sex couplings!"
Then, once you show them the scientific evidence that proves that same-sex
coupling is perfectly *Natural* (see the book "Biological Exuberance" by
Bruce Bagemhil for the evidence of this)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/031225377X/qid=1082958621/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-7701767-5403056?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
they immediately reverse course and say "What, now you're no better than an
animal?"
Hate to tell them, but, if something occurs in *Nature*, it then is
*Natural* - and it's merely part of the wonderful diversity of life on this
little planet of ours...
Silly, silly bigots...
The absurdity is that some people use animal behaviour to justify
their own behaviour. And others defend that stupidity with a straight
face.
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| User: "Clave" |
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| Title: Re: ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY?? |
28 Apr 2004 09:53:07 PM |
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<yaya> wrote in message news:d4r0901qtdcsmhn2q98v5oibitrjvva0vq@4ax.com...
<...>
The absurdity is that some people use animal behaviour to justify
their own behaviour. And others defend that stupidity with a straight
face.
What horseshit. The animal behavior argument is presented only to counter the
stupid-assed contention that homosexual behavior doesn't occur naturally.
Jim
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| User: "Paul Mitchum" |
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| Title: Re: ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY?? |
28 Apr 2004 11:32:28 PM |
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yaya <> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 05:56:10 GMT, "Khendon"
<Khendon@deletecomcast.net> wrote:
[..]
Hate to tell them, but, if something occurs in *Nature*, it then is
*Natural* - and it's merely part of the wonderful diversity of life on
this little planet of ours...
Silly, silly bigots...
The absurdity is that some people use animal behaviour to justify their
own behaviour. And others defend that stupidity with a straight face.
Chimpanzees and other primates conduct wars on each other. Does that
justify human war?
--
"Maybe the mothers of our nation should remind us
That we're sitting too close
To the television"
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| User: "CapnTrVTh" |
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| Title: Re: ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY?? |
29 Apr 2004 03:44:42 AM |
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"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.com.r3m0v3> wrote in message
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yaya <> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 05:56:10 GMT, "Khendon"
<Khendon@deletecomcast.net> wrote:
[..]
Hate to tell them, but, if something occurs in *Nature*, it then is
*Natural* - and it's merely part of the wonderful diversity of life on
this little planet of ours...
Silly, silly bigots...
The absurdity is that some people use animal behaviour to justify their
own behaviour. And others defend that stupidity with a straight face.
Chimpanzees and other primates conduct wars on each other. Does that
justify human war?
Reach for -my- Banana and see what happens.
-Cap'n Koko
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| User: "marbury" |
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| Title: Re: ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY?? |
29 Apr 2004 03:24:56 AM |
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"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.com.r3m0v3> wrote in message
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yaya <> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 05:56:10 GMT, "Khendon"
<Khendon@deletecomcast.net> wrote:
[..]
Hate to tell them, but, if something occurs in *Nature*, it then is
*Natural* - and it's merely part of the wonderful diversity of life on
this little planet of ours...
Silly, silly bigots...
The absurdity is that some people use animal behaviour to justify their
own behaviour. And others defend that stupidity with a straight face.
Chimpanzees and other primates conduct wars on each other. Does that
justify human war?
of course not, the whole point of societal evolution (shades of hayek) is
that it allows us to rise ABOVE our natural urges, and our base instincts.
we are BETTER than we were in a state of nature (rousseau was a putz) and
culture is to our benefit
whit
--
"Maybe the mothers of our nation should remind us
That we're sitting too close
To the television"
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| User: "Paul Mitchum" |
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| Title: Re: ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY?? |
29 Apr 2004 04:48:07 AM |
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marbury <marbury@home.net> wrote:
"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.com.r3m0v3> wrote in message
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yaya <> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 05:56:10 GMT, "Khendon"
<Khendon@deletecomcast.net> wrote:
[..]
Hate to tell them, but, if something occurs in *Nature*, it then is
*Natural* - and it's merely part of the wonderful diversity of life
on this little planet of ours...
Silly, silly bigots...
The absurdity is that some people use animal behaviour to justify
their own behaviour. And others defend that stupidity with a straight
face.
Chimpanzees and other primates conduct wars on each other. Does that
justify human war?
of course not, the whole point of societal evolution (shades of hayek) is
that it allows us to rise ABOVE our natural urges, and our base instincts.
we are BETTER than we were in a state of nature (rousseau was a putz) and
culture is to our benefit
You seem to be arguing that war is not an animal drive, since, as you
say, humans are 'above' our animal drives, and we also wage wars.
Which leads me to wonder: If war isn't an animal drive, then why do both
chimps and humans wage them? Surely chimps aren't 'above' their animal
drives the way we are...?
And if you're feeling clever, you might try to argue that humans can
decide *not* to wage wars, which is why they're considered 'above' their
animal drives. However, if those were the rules by which the universe
operated, then natural history would reflect that all chimpanzees
everywhere have been fighting one long war, always, until the species
obliterated itself. Which isn't the case, thankfully.
When you posit that we're 'better than' or 'above' nature, you open up
this can of worms, and it's best to just accept your unity *with* those
worms than to waste time arguing that they're lower beings.
But meanwhile, back on track, the fact of the matter is that there are
people who are queer, and the other fact is that queerness exists in the
rest of the natural world, as well. And to assume that either of these
things justifies or condemns the other is lunacy, just as the fact of
chimps waging war doesn't really have much to do with humans waging war.
--
"Maybe the mothers of our nation should remind us
That we're sitting too close
To the television"
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| User: "mapp" |
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| Title: Re: ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY?? |
29 Apr 2004 05:40:19 AM |
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Paul Mitchum <usenet@mile23.com.r3m0v3> wrote in message
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marbury <marbury@home.net> wrote:
"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.com.r3m0v3> wrote in message
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yaya <> wrote:
On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 05:56:10 GMT, "Khendon"
<Khendon@deletecomcast.net> wrote:
[..]
Hate to tell them, but, if something occurs in *Nature*, it then is
*Natural* - and it's merely part of the wonderful diversity of life
on this little planet of ours...
Silly, silly bigots...
The absurdity is that some people use animal behaviour to justify
their own behaviour. And others defend that stupidity with a
straight
face.
Chimpanzees and other primates conduct wars on each other. Does that
justify human war?
of course not, the whole point of societal evolution (shades of hayek)
is
that it allows us to rise ABOVE our natural urges, and our base
instincts.
we are BETTER than we were in a state of nature (rousseau was a putz)
and
culture is to our benefit
You seem to be arguing that war is not an animal drive,
war qua war. no
aggression, fighting, etc. yes. war is a bit too complex to be an animal
DRIVE. it may be the results of conscious thought COMBINED with some animal
drives.
since, as you
say, humans are 'above' our animal drives, and we also wage wars.
yes, but wars are often a good thing, or at the minimum a lesser evil than
NOT going to war.
Which leads me to wonder: If war isn't an animal drive, then why do both
chimps and humans wage them? Surely chimps aren't 'above' their animal
drives the way we are...?
chimps do not organize WARS, paul. chimps fight, and they may even band
together on occasion to do so, but it is not nearly organized enough to be
referred to as WAR. WAR has rules of engagement, and other stuff, that
chimps don't abide by
but if you want to play semantics and claim that chimps WAGE WAR, knock
yourself out with your redefinition of words. very martin'esque
And if you're feeling clever, you might try to argue that humans can
decide *not* to wage wars, which is why they're considered 'above' their
animal drives
correct. but WAR is not an animal drive. underlying aggression and such
(without which war would be impossible) ARE.
however, WAR is sometimes justified and is not always a bad thing, even
though it has terrible consequences. sometimes the good outweighs the bad.
and if you don't believe that, then fine, but it's too fundamental to evne
get into
.. However, if those were the rules by which the universe
operated, then natural history would reflect that all chimpanzees
everywhere have been fighting one long war, always, until the species
obliterated itself. Which isn't the case, thankfully.
When you posit that we're 'better than' or 'above' nature, you open up
this can of worms, and it's best to just accept your unity *with* those
worms than to waste time arguing that they're lower beings.
that is some sort of species-relativistic rubbish.
we can transcend our base desires and instincts and make choices, and the
evolution of societies mean that there is more knowledge in systemic
societal structures than any ONE man can ever know or self-realize.
that is the reason why culture is SO important. without it, we would revert
to basic savagery.
culture elevates us and it DOES put us above nature. but of course, i'm
burkean not rousseau'ian so if you feel different, fine.
we won't come to a resolution, since that's a fundamentally different VISION
and it precedes most analysis.
But meanwhile, back on track, the fact of the matter is that there are
people who are queer,
duh
and the other fact is that queerness exists in the
rest of the natural world, as well.
never said it didn't
And to assume that either of these
things justifies or condemns the other is lunacy, just as the fact of
chimps waging war doesn't really have much to do with humans waging war.
and those are things i never said.
saying something is "natural" doesn't mean it's good. or bad, for that
matter. there is more to it.
murderous rampages (given proper circumstances) are ALSO natural, for
instance. however, culture and society say they MUST be reigned in or you
will be punished for murder.
society and culture elevate us, paul. help us to better ourselves and play
a part in a greater web - that of the interconnection between people in a
society. they work to both elevate the individual above his base nature,
and to help him to better his fellow man.
they are very good things.
whit
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"Maybe the mothers of our nation should remind us
That we're sitting too close
To the television"
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| User: "yaya " |
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| Title: Re: ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY?? |
25 Apr 2004 08:09:29 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 16:53:56 -0400, wrote:
On 24 Apr 2004 17:00:59 -0700, (Liberals Are
Cowards) wrote:
ARE HOMOSEXUALS & LIBERALS BORN THAT WAY??
9/20/2002
<snip>
Shouldn't anybody have the right to choose their life's course once
they attain the legal age of adulthood anyway?
If not, why not?
drift
I think they should of course. Most especially if it is between
consenting adults. However the problem is when the individuals
choosing their lifes course want other people to support or endorse or
legitimize their chosen behaviour.
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