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Religions > Atheism |
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"Chris H. Fleming" |
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04 May 2007 01:59:50 AM |
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Are most pro-lifer/Republicans fundamentally liars? |
After watching the GOP debates, some of the most fervently religious
comments got me thinking. (Exceptions to Paul, Giuliani, ...) Some of
these people really think abortion is murder? Do they really? Their
major concern is overturning Roe vs. Wade so the decision can be left
up to the states (what they also ignore to say is that federal laws
(not requiring constitutional amendments) could also be passed).
I think slavery is wrong. I sure as ***** wouldn't leave slavery up to
the states. ***** state's rights. They can't have slavery if they want
it.
My theory is that all the (abortion=murder) pro-lifers arguing for
state's rights are liars. They either aren't pro-life or they don't
really give a ***** about state's rights: it's just a convenient
argument for them.
But I think this issue is much bigger. Do these people really think
abortion is murder? If there was a building down the street from me
where murder was taking place every day and I knew this, I would get
off my ***** and do something about it. ***** the law, it's murder, mass
murder. At a minimum, I'd burn that building to the ground.
Basically I think the abortion clinic terrorist are the only rational
(abortion=murder) pro-lifers. If an abortion really is murder, then I
feel that such terrorism would really be justified. I think all the
rest are liars, all of them.
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: Are most pro-lifer/Republicans fundamentally liars? |
04 May 2007 02:38:50 AM |
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"Chris H. Fleming" <chris_h_fleming@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1178261990.493564.148700@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
After watching the GOP debates, some of the most fervently religious
comments got me thinking. (Exceptions to Paul, Giuliani, ...) Some of
these people really think abortion is murder? Do they really? Their
major concern is overturning Roe vs. Wade so the decision can be left
up to the states (what they also ignore to say is that federal laws
(not requiring constitutional amendments) could also be passed).
When they asked which of them didn't believe in evolution
(their phraseology), only three raised their hands. They
moved away from them too quickly to see who they were.
Only three out of ten. Interesting.
I think slavery is wrong. I sure as ***** wouldn't leave slavery up to
the states. ***** state's rights. They can't have slavery if they want
it.
My theory is that all the (abortion=murder) pro-lifers arguing for
state's rights are liars. They either aren't pro-life or they don't
really give a ***** about state's rights: it's just a convenient
argument for them.
But I think this issue is much bigger. Do these people really think
abortion is murder? If there was a building down the street from me
where murder was taking place every day and I knew this, I would get
off my ***** and do something about it. ***** the law, it's murder, mass
murder. At a minimum, I'd burn that building to the ground.
Basically I think the abortion clinic terrorist are the only rational
(abortion=murder) pro-lifers. If an abortion really is murder, then I
feel that such terrorism would really be justified. I think all the
rest are liars, all of them.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Are most pro-lifer/Republicans fundamentally liars? |
05 May 2007 02:53:05 AM |
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In article <KfmdnUUVf9ubfqfbnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"Chris H. Fleming" <chris_h_fleming@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1178261990.493564.148700@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
After watching the GOP debates, some of the most fervently religious
comments got me thinking. (Exceptions to Paul, Giuliani, ...) Some of
these people really think abortion is murder? Do they really? Their
major concern is overturning Roe vs. Wade so the decision can be left
up to the states (what they also ignore to say is that federal laws
(not requiring constitutional amendments) could also be passed).
When they asked which of them didn't believe in evolution
(their phraseology), only three raised their hands. They
moved away from them too quickly to see who they were.
Only three out of ten. Interesting.
They asked McCain first and he said yes. Then after he saw the others,
he quickly added: "Whenever I'm hiking in the Grand Canyon, I see the
hand of God." Pop go the weasels.
I think slavery is wrong. I sure as ***** wouldn't leave slavery up to
the states. ***** state's rights. They can't have slavery if they want
it.
My theory is that all the (abortion=murder) pro-lifers arguing for
state's rights are liars. They either aren't pro-life or they don't
really give a ***** about state's rights: it's just a convenient
argument for them.
But I think this issue is much bigger. Do these people really think
abortion is murder? If there was a building down the street from me
where murder was taking place every day and I knew this, I would get
off my ***** and do something about it. ***** the law, it's murder, mass
murder. At a minimum, I'd burn that building to the ground.
Basically I think the abortion clinic terrorist are the only rational
(abortion=murder) pro-lifers. If an abortion really is murder, then I
feel that such terrorism would really be justified. I think all the
rest are liars, all of them.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Are most pro-lifer/Republicans fundamentally liars? |
05 May 2007 05:00:25 AM |
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On Sat, 05 May 2007 00:53:05 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <KfmdnUUVf9ubfqfbnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"Chris H. Fleming" <chris_h_fleming@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1178261990.493564.148700@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
After watching the GOP debates, some of the most fervently religious
comments got me thinking. (Exceptions to Paul, Giuliani, ...) Some of
these people really think abortion is murder? Do they really? Their
major concern is overturning Roe vs. Wade so the decision can be left
up to the states (what they also ignore to say is that federal laws
(not requiring constitutional amendments) could also be passed).
When they asked which of them didn't believe in evolution
(their phraseology), only three raised their hands. They
moved away from them too quickly to see who they were.
Only three out of ten. Interesting.
They asked McCain first and he said yes. Then after he saw the others,
he quickly added: "Whenever I'm hiking in the Grand Canyon, I see the
hand of God." Pop go the weasels.
They have to be either religious fanatics or dishonest to get elected.
Either way it sends the message they're not fit to do the job.
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| User: "johac" |
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05 May 2007 07:24:05 PM |
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In article <3alo33l3qi1ssiukcico41tctsotj6jpok@4ax.com>,
Christopher A.Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Sat, 05 May 2007 00:53:05 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <KfmdnUUVf9ubfqfbnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"Chris H. Fleming" <chris_h_fleming@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1178261990.493564.148700@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
After watching the GOP debates, some of the most fervently religious
comments got me thinking. (Exceptions to Paul, Giuliani, ...) Some of
these people really think abortion is murder? Do they really? Their
major concern is overturning Roe vs. Wade so the decision can be left
up to the states (what they also ignore to say is that federal laws
(not requiring constitutional amendments) could also be passed).
When they asked which of them didn't believe in evolution
(their phraseology), only three raised their hands. They
moved away from them too quickly to see who they were.
Only three out of ten. Interesting.
They asked McCain first and he said yes. Then after he saw the others,
he quickly added: "Whenever I'm hiking in the Grand Canyon, I see the
hand of God." Pop go the weasels.
They have to be either religious fanatics or dishonest to get elected.
Either way it sends the message they're not fit to do the job.
Well, it didn't stop the present "Commander Guy". I just hope that the
Democrats don't blow it again.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Are most pro-lifer/Republicans fundamentally liars? |
20 May 2007 12:34:21 PM |
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On Sat, 05 May 2007 17:24:05 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
In article <3alo33l3qi1ssiukcico41tctsotj6jpok@4ax.com>,
Christopher A.Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Sat, 05 May 2007 00:53:05 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <KfmdnUUVf9ubfqfbnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"Chris H. Fleming" <chris_h_fleming@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1178261990.493564.148700@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
After watching the GOP debates, some of the most fervently religious
comments got me thinking. (Exceptions to Paul, Giuliani, ...) Some of
these people really think abortion is murder? Do they really? Their
major concern is overturning Roe vs. Wade so the decision can be left
up to the states (what they also ignore to say is that federal laws
(not requiring constitutional amendments) could also be passed).
When they asked which of them didn't believe in evolution
(their phraseology), only three raised their hands. They
moved away from them too quickly to see who they were.
Only three out of ten. Interesting.
They asked McCain first and he said yes. Then after he saw the others,
he quickly added: "Whenever I'm hiking in the Grand Canyon, I see the
hand of God." Pop go the weasels.
They have to be either religious fanatics or dishonest to get elected.
Either way it sends the message they're not fit to do the job.
Well, it didn't stop the present "Commander Guy". I just hope that the
Democrats don't blow it again.
File that one under "Hope, Forlorn."
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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05 May 2007 06:08:36 AM |
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On Sat, 05 May 2007 00:53:05 -0700, johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
In article <KfmdnUUVf9ubfqfbnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"Chris H. Fleming" <chris_h_fleming@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1178261990.493564.148700@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
After watching the GOP debates, some of the most fervently religious
comments got me thinking. (Exceptions to Paul, Giuliani, ...) Some of
these people really think abortion is murder? Do they really? Their
major concern is overturning Roe vs. Wade so the decision can be left
up to the states (what they also ignore to say is that federal laws
(not requiring constitutional amendments) could also be passed).
When they asked which of them didn't believe in evolution
(their phraseology), only three raised their hands. They
moved away from them too quickly to see who they were.
Only three out of ten. Interesting.
They asked McCain first and he said yes. Then after he saw the others,
he quickly added: "Whenever I'm hiking in the Grand Canyon, I see the
hand of God." Pop go the weasels.
I think slavery is wrong. I sure as ***** wouldn't leave slavery up to
the states. ***** state's rights. They can't have slavery if they want
it.
My theory is that all the (abortion=murder) pro-lifers arguing for
state's rights are liars. They either aren't pro-life or they don't
really give a ***** about state's rights: it's just a convenient
argument for them.
But I think this issue is much bigger. Do these people really think
abortion is murder? If there was a building down the street from me
where murder was taking place every day and I knew this, I would get
off my ***** and do something about it. ***** the law, it's murder, mass
murder. At a minimum, I'd burn that building to the ground.
Basically I think the abortion clinic terrorist are the only rational
(abortion=murder) pro-lifers. If an abortion really is murder, then I
feel that such terrorism would really be justified. I think all the
rest are liars, all of them.
There's a great "Saturday Night Live" sketch in there!
Ben
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| User: "johac" |
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05 May 2007 07:22:24 PM |
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In article <ncpo339orri0471f2njsk8ho15nnlmdugs@4ax.com>,
Ben Kaufman <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Sat, 05 May 2007 00:53:05 -0700, johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
In article <KfmdnUUVf9ubfqfbnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"Chris H. Fleming" <chris_h_fleming@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1178261990.493564.148700@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
After watching the GOP debates, some of the most fervently religious
comments got me thinking. (Exceptions to Paul, Giuliani, ...) Some of
these people really think abortion is murder? Do they really? Their
major concern is overturning Roe vs. Wade so the decision can be left
up to the states (what they also ignore to say is that federal laws
(not requiring constitutional amendments) could also be passed).
When they asked which of them didn't believe in evolution
(their phraseology), only three raised their hands. They
moved away from them too quickly to see who they were.
Only three out of ten. Interesting.
They asked McCain first and he said yes. Then after he saw the others,
he quickly added: "Whenever I'm hiking in the Grand Canyon, I see the
hand of God." Pop go the weasels.
I think slavery is wrong. I sure as ***** wouldn't leave slavery up to
the states. ***** state's rights. They can't have slavery if they want
it.
My theory is that all the (abortion=murder) pro-lifers arguing for
state's rights are liars. They either aren't pro-life or they don't
really give a ***** about state's rights: it's just a convenient
argument for them.
But I think this issue is much bigger. Do these people really think
abortion is murder? If there was a building down the street from me
where murder was taking place every day and I knew this, I would get
off my ***** and do something about it. ***** the law, it's murder, mass
murder. At a minimum, I'd burn that building to the ground.
Basically I think the abortion clinic terrorist are the only rational
(abortion=murder) pro-lifers. If an abortion really is murder, then I
feel that such terrorism would really be justified. I think all the
rest are liars, all of them.
There's a great "Saturday Night Live" sketch in there!
True. I had a good laugh until I remembered that one of these creeps
might actually sneak into the presidency.
Ben
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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06 May 2007 07:37:38 AM |
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On Sat, 05 May 2007 17:22:24 -0700, johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
In article <ncpo339orri0471f2njsk8ho15nnlmdugs@4ax.com>,
Ben Kaufman <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Sat, 05 May 2007 00:53:05 -0700, johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
In article <KfmdnUUVf9ubfqfbnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"Chris H. Fleming" <chris_h_fleming@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1178261990.493564.148700@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
After watching the GOP debates, some of the most fervently religious
comments got me thinking. (Exceptions to Paul, Giuliani, ...) Some of
these people really think abortion is murder? Do they really? Their
major concern is overturning Roe vs. Wade so the decision can be left
up to the states (what they also ignore to say is that federal laws
(not requiring constitutional amendments) could also be passed).
When they asked which of them didn't believe in evolution
(their phraseology), only three raised their hands. They
moved away from them too quickly to see who they were.
Only three out of ten. Interesting.
They asked McCain first and he said yes. Then after he saw the others,
he quickly added: "Whenever I'm hiking in the Grand Canyon, I see the
hand of God." Pop go the weasels.
I think slavery is wrong. I sure as ***** wouldn't leave slavery up to
the states. ***** state's rights. They can't have slavery if they want
it.
My theory is that all the (abortion=murder) pro-lifers arguing for
state's rights are liars. They either aren't pro-life or they don't
really give a ***** about state's rights: it's just a convenient
argument for them.
But I think this issue is much bigger. Do these people really think
abortion is murder? If there was a building down the street from me
where murder was taking place every day and I knew this, I would get
off my ***** and do something about it. ***** the law, it's murder, mass
murder. At a minimum, I'd burn that building to the ground.
Basically I think the abortion clinic terrorist are the only rational
(abortion=murder) pro-lifers. If an abortion really is murder, then I
feel that such terrorism would really be justified. I think all the
rest are liars, all of them.
There's a great "Saturday Night Live" sketch in there!
True. I had a good laugh until I remembered that one of these creeps
might actually sneak into the presidency.
Ben
The good ol' days, when you could watch a movie and smugly state, "that could
never happen." :-(
Ben
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| User: "johac" |
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06 May 2007 06:41:43 PM |
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In article <ssir33p9kqqevgkujqsssskg93noane8tv@4ax.com>,
Ben Kaufman <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Sat, 05 May 2007 17:22:24 -0700, johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
In article <ncpo339orri0471f2njsk8ho15nnlmdugs@4ax.com>,
Ben Kaufman <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Sat, 05 May 2007 00:53:05 -0700, johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
In article <KfmdnUUVf9ubfqfbnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"Chris H. Fleming" <chris_h_fleming@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1178261990.493564.148700@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
After watching the GOP debates, some of the most fervently religious
comments got me thinking. (Exceptions to Paul, Giuliani, ...) Some of
these people really think abortion is murder? Do they really? Their
major concern is overturning Roe vs. Wade so the decision can be left
up to the states (what they also ignore to say is that federal laws
(not requiring constitutional amendments) could also be passed).
When they asked which of them didn't believe in evolution
(their phraseology), only three raised their hands. They
moved away from them too quickly to see who they were.
Only three out of ten. Interesting.
They asked McCain first and he said yes. Then after he saw the others,
he quickly added: "Whenever I'm hiking in the Grand Canyon, I see the
hand of God." Pop go the weasels.
I think slavery is wrong. I sure as ***** wouldn't leave slavery up to
the states. ***** state's rights. They can't have slavery if they want
it.
My theory is that all the (abortion=murder) pro-lifers arguing for
state's rights are liars. They either aren't pro-life or they don't
really give a ***** about state's rights: it's just a convenient
argument for them.
But I think this issue is much bigger. Do these people really think
abortion is murder? If there was a building down the street from me
where murder was taking place every day and I knew this, I would get
off my ***** and do something about it. ***** the law, it's murder, mass
murder. At a minimum, I'd burn that building to the ground.
Basically I think the abortion clinic terrorist are the only rational
(abortion=murder) pro-lifers. If an abortion really is murder, then I
feel that such terrorism would really be justified. I think all the
rest are liars, all of them.
There's a great "Saturday Night Live" sketch in there!
True. I had a good laugh until I remembered that one of these creeps
might actually sneak into the presidency.
Ben
The good ol' days, when you could watch a movie and smugly state, "that could
never happen." :-(
Ever read Sinclair Lewis' "It Can't Happen Here" about a fascist
takeover in America? It has happened. :-(
Ben
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Geoff" |
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06 May 2007 04:17:51 AM |
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johac wrote:
They asked McCain first and he said yes. Then after he saw the others,
he quickly added: "Whenever I'm hiking in the Grand Canyon, I see the
hand of God." Pop go the weasels.
McCain is such a lying *****. I wouldn't shed a tear if he got mauled by a
mountain lion on one of those hikes.
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| User: "johac" |
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06 May 2007 06:37:17 PM |
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In article <n7udnV72p5miAKDbnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
johac wrote:
They asked McCain first and he said yes. Then after he saw the others,
he quickly added: "Whenever I'm hiking in the Grand Canyon, I see the
hand of God." Pop go the weasels.
McCain is such a lying *****. I wouldn't shed a tear if he got mauled by a
mountain lion on one of those hikes.
The fundies would say that gawd sent the mountain lion because McCain
said he accepted evolution first.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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05 May 2007 03:06:36 AM |
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On 4 Mai, 09:38, "Michelle Malkin" <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:
"Chris H. Fleming" <chris_h_flem...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1178261990.493564.148700@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
After watching the GOP debates, some of the most fervently religious
comments got me thinking. (Exceptions to Paul, Giuliani, ...) Some of
these people really think abortion is murder? Do they really? Their
major concern is overturning Roe vs. Wade so the decision can be left
up to the states (what they also ignore to say is that federal laws
(not requiring constitutional amendments) could also be passed).
When they asked which of them didn't believe in evolution
(their phraseology), only three raised their hands. They
moved away from them too quickly to see who they were.
Only three out of ten. Interesting.
I think slavery is wrong. I sure as ***** wouldn't leave slavery up to
the states. ***** state's rights. They can't have slavery if they want
it.
My theory is that all the (abortion=murder) pro-lifers arguing for
state's rights are liars. They either aren't pro-life or they don't
really give a ***** about state's rights: it's just a convenient
argument for them.
But I think this issue is much bigger. Do these people really think
abortion is murder? If there was a building down the street from me
where murder was taking place every day and I knew this, I would get
off my ***** and do something about it. ***** the law, it's murder, mass
murder. At a minimum, I'd burn that building to the ground.
Basically I think the abortion clinic terrorist are the only rational
(abortion=murder) pro-lifers. If an abortion really is murder, then I
feel that such terrorism would really be justified. I think all the
rest are liars, all of them.-
It's quite worrying to see that the USA are slowly but serely turning
into one big religion-fanatics led country. With the silent approval
of the population.
I think this mass-inertia explains very well how -for example- nazis
could take power in Germany. Of course, a lot of Germans didn't
approve, but far too few had to courage to stand and say "no way". How
come no politician has the courage to say "my religious belief are a
private matter, thank you"? In which way is it important for the
people to know the religious convictions of their candidates? Hasn't
the case of the awol coke-head moron showed how hypocrite this is?
"It's OK that he is by far the most incompetent president ever, that
he is a liar, that he is cynical because he calls himself christian".
When will the USA wake up?
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20 May 2007 12:35:46 PM |
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On 5 May 2007 01:06:36 -0700, Parsifal <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On 4 Mai, 09:38, "Michelle Malkin" <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:
"Chris H. Fleming" <chris_h_flem...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1178261990.493564.148700@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
After watching the GOP debates, some of the most fervently religious
comments got me thinking. (Exceptions to Paul, Giuliani, ...) Some of
these people really think abortion is murder? Do they really? Their
major concern is overturning Roe vs. Wade so the decision can be left
up to the states (what they also ignore to say is that federal laws
(not requiring constitutional amendments) could also be passed).
When they asked which of them didn't believe in evolution
(their phraseology), only three raised their hands. They
moved away from them too quickly to see who they were.
Only three out of ten. Interesting.
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It's quite worrying to see that the USA are slowly but serely turning
into one big religion-fanatics led country. With the silent approval
of the population.
I think this mass-inertia explains very well how -for example- nazis
could take power in Germany. Of course, a lot of Germans didn't
approve, but far too few had to courage to stand and say "no way". How
come no politician has the courage to say "my religious belief are a
private matter, thank you"? In which way is it important for the
people to know the religious convictions of their candidates? Hasn't
the case of the awol coke-head moron showed how hypocrite this is?
"It's OK that he is by far the most incompetent president ever, that
he is a liar, that he is cynical because he calls himself christian".
When will the USA wake up?
Never.
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
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| User: "Geoff" |
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06 May 2007 04:20:18 AM |
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Parsifal wrote:
It's quite worrying to see that the USA are slowly but serely turning
into one big religion-fanatics led country. With the silent approval
of the population.
I don't believe it. Religion and ignorance are on the wane. What you're
seeing now is religion's death throes. Seriously. They are all so defensive.
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| User: "Scott Richter" |
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11 May 2007 11:27:40 AM |
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Geoff <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
Parsifal wrote:
It's quite worrying to see that the USA are slowly but serely turning
into one big religion-fanatics led country. With the silent approval
of the population.
I don't believe it. Religion and ignorance are on the wane. What you're
seeing now is religion's death throes. Seriously. They are all so defensive.
I sincerely hope you're right, but I don't think it's a "slam dunk"
(where have I heard that expression before? Hmmm...)
Religious fanaticism feeds on fear and hopelessness, and there are many
things that could trigger it: economic conditions, natural disasters,
terrorist attacks.
Certainly the current administration has used fear as their primary
weapon to maintain power, and it's no surprise this adminstration is so
closely allied with religious fundamentalists.
If civil unrest increases, I think we'll see a corresponding increase in
religious fanaticism in the US.
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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06 May 2007 07:40:00 AM |
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On Sun, 6 May 2007 05:20:18 -0400, "Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote:
Parsifal wrote:
It's quite worrying to see that the USA are slowly but serely turning
into one big religion-fanatics led country. With the silent approval
of the population.
I don't believe it. Religion and ignorance are on the wane. What you're
seeing now is religion's death throes. Seriously. They are all so defensive.
Is this the scene in the movie where the hero thinks he's killed the monster and
it's come back to life for one last hail of chemically reactive bullets? :-)
Ben
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| User: "Geoff" |
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06 May 2007 09:00:12 AM |
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Ben Kaufman wrote:
On Sun, 6 May 2007 05:20:18 -0400, "Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com>
wrote:
Parsifal wrote:
It's quite worrying to see that the USA are slowly but serely
turning into one big religion-fanatics led country. With the silent
approval of the population.
I don't believe it. Religion and ignorance are on the wane. What
you're seeing now is religion's death throes. Seriously. They are
all so defensive.
Is this the scene in the movie where the hero thinks he's killed the
monster and it's come back to life for one last hail of chemically
reactive bullets? :-)
Wish it were so. But as I say death throes, it will take a while for the
beast to die. And forgive me for mixing metaphors, but a few of these
cornered rats are going to lash out at society.
Like these freaks: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e0_1178304529
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| User: "Chris H. Fleming" |
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04 May 2007 03:29:02 AM |
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On May 4, 3:38 am, "Michelle Malkin" <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:
"Chris H. Fleming" <chris_h_flem...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1178261990.493564.148700@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
After watching the GOP debates, some of the most fervently religious
comments got me thinking. (Exceptions to Paul, Giuliani, ...) Some of
these people really think abortion is murder? Do they really? Their
major concern is overturning Roe vs. Wade so the decision can be left
up to the states (what they also ignore to say is that federal laws
(not requiring constitutional amendments) could also be passed).
When they asked which of them didn't believe in evolution
(their phraseology), only three raised their hands. They
moved away from them too quickly to see who they were.
Only three out of ten. Interesting.
Brownback, Tancredo, and Huckabee
I think slavery is wrong. I sure as ***** wouldn't leave slavery up to
the states. ***** state's rights. They can't have slavery if they want
it.
My theory is that all the (abortion=murder) pro-lifers arguing for
state's rights are liars. They either aren't pro-life or they don't
really give a ***** about state's rights: it's just a convenient
argument for them.
But I think this issue is much bigger. Do these people really think
abortion is murder? If there was a building down the street from me
where murder was taking place every day and I knew this, I would get
off my ***** and do something about it. ***** the law, it's murder, mass
murder. At a minimum, I'd burn that building to the ground.
Basically I think the abortion clinic terrorist are the only rational
(abortion=murder) pro-lifers. If an abortion really is murder, then I
feel that such terrorism would really be justified. I think all the
rest are liars, all of them.
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| User: "Sasha" |
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04 May 2007 10:48:12 AM |
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On May 4, 4:29 am, "Chris H. Fleming" <chris_h_flem...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
When they asked which of them didn't believe in evolution
(their phraseology), only three raised their hands. They
moved away from them too quickly to see who they were.
Only three out of ten. Interesting.
Brownback
I, for one, am completely shocked.
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| User: "Geoff" |
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06 May 2007 04:16:30 AM |
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Sasha wrote:
On May 4, 4:29 am, "Chris H. Fleming" <chris_h_flem...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
When they asked which of them didn't believe in evolution
(their phraseology), only three raised their hands. They
moved away from them too quickly to see who they were.
Only three out of ten. Interesting.
Brownback
I, for one, am completely shocked.
Shocked, I say!
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| User: "Scott Richter" |
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11 May 2007 11:19:10 AM |
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Chris H. Fleming <chris_h_fleming@yahoo.com> wrote:
After watching the GOP debates, some of the most fervently religious
comments got me thinking. (Exceptions to Paul, Giuliani, ...) Some of
these people really think abortion is murder? Do they really? Their
major concern is overturning Roe vs. Wade so the decision can be left
up to the states (what they also ignore to say is that federal laws
(not requiring constitutional amendments) could also be passed).
I think slavery is wrong. I sure as ***** wouldn't leave slavery up to
the states. ***** state's rights. They can't have slavery if they want
it.
Yup, they don't trust states to decide what the legal drinking age
should be, or the maximum speed limit on highways, or whether to require
motorcycle helmets, but think states *should* be able to decide
something as important as whether abortion should be legal.
Invoking "states rights" is something to watch out for, because it's
always code for an underlying agenda.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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04 May 2007 11:15:03 AM |
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Chris H. Fleming wrote:
After watching the GOP debates, some of the most fervently religious
comments got me thinking. (Exceptions to Paul, Giuliani, ...) Some of
these people really think abortion is murder? Do they really? Their
major concern is overturning Roe vs. Wade so the decision can be left
up to the states (what they also ignore to say is that federal laws
(not requiring constitutional amendments) could also be passed).
I think slavery is wrong. I sure as ***** wouldn't leave slavery up to
the states. ***** state's rights. They can't have slavery if they want
it.
My theory is that all the (abortion=murder) pro-lifers arguing for
state's rights are liars. They either aren't pro-life or they don't
really give a ***** about state's rights: it's just a convenient
argument for them.
But I think this issue is much bigger. Do these people really think
abortion is murder? If there was a building down the street from me
where murder was taking place every day and I knew this, I would get
off my ***** and do something about it. ***** the law, it's murder, mass
murder. At a minimum, I'd burn that building to the ground.
Basically I think the abortion clinic terrorist are the only rational
(abortion=murder) pro-lifers. If an abortion really is murder, then I
feel that such terrorism would really be justified. I think all the
rest are liars, all of them.
The right to life ends at birth for most of these people.
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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| Title: Re: Are most pro-lifer/Republicans fundamentally liars? |
04 May 2007 12:51:08 PM |
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On Fri, 04 May 2007 16:15:03 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Chris H. Fleming wrote:
After watching the GOP debates, some of the most fervently religious
comments got me thinking. (Exceptions to Paul, Giuliani, ...) Some of
these people really think abortion is murder? Do they really? Their
major concern is overturning Roe vs. Wade so the decision can be left
up to the states (what they also ignore to say is that federal laws
(not requiring constitutional amendments) could also be passed).
I think slavery is wrong. I sure as ***** wouldn't leave slavery up to
the states. ***** state's rights. They can't have slavery if they want
it.
My theory is that all the (abortion=murder) pro-lifers arguing for
state's rights are liars. They either aren't pro-life or they don't
really give a ***** about state's rights: it's just a convenient
argument for them.
But I think this issue is much bigger. Do these people really think
abortion is murder? If there was a building down the street from me
where murder was taking place every day and I knew this, I would get
off my ***** and do something about it. ***** the law, it's murder, mass
murder. At a minimum, I'd burn that building to the ground.
Basically I think the abortion clinic terrorist are the only rational
(abortion=murder) pro-lifers. If an abortion really is murder, then I
feel that such terrorism would really be justified. I think all the
rest are liars, all of them.
The right to life ends at birth for most of these people.
That's because they would actually have an opportunity to $help$ someone.
Ben
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