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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "muldoon"
Date: 01 Jul 2005 02:54:33 PM
Object: Are there any atheists who actually like George Bush?
4th of July coming up. The President wants everyone to participate.
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User: "turk"

Title: Re: Anyone for a show of hands? re: Atheists who like/approve of GWB. 02 Jul 2005 02:17:00 PM
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in
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Was "Are there any atheists who actually like George Bush?" I thought
the question could be put to a more "official" vote. :-) So...

Out of curiosity, who among the readership (lurkers included) are
atheists that like and/or approve of George W. Bush (no problemo if
lurkers wish to re-lurk after expressing their approval)?

If at all possible, I request that this thread be limited to
affirmative responses from atheistic Bush-supporters. To those who
wish to respond to affirmative votes rather than making one, I
politely request that you do so in a new thread if at all possible.
No big reason, it would just make it easier to tally the affirmative
responses, that's all. Thanks either way... :-)


I assume you're already counting me as an affirmative. That is if you
don't still have me killfiled.

You're not an atheist. You worship George Bush as a god. In fact, I think
you worship a pantheon of GW, Condi, *****, Ashcroft, Frist, and the whole
lot of those in the White House playing gods.
turk
--
"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment
insurance and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of
that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group,
of course, that believes that you can do these things. Among them are a few
Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or businessman from
other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid."--President
Dwight Eisenhower, Republican November 8, 1954
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User: "Elroy Willis"

Title: Re: Anyone for a show of hands? re: Atheists who like/approve of GWB. 02 Jul 2005 06:48:31 AM
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in

Was "Are there any atheists who actually like George Bush?" I thought
the question could be put to a more "official" vote. :-) So...
Out of curiosity, who among the readership (lurkers included) are
atheists that like and/or approve of George W. Bush (no problemo if
lurkers wish to re-lurk after expressing their approval)?
If at all possible, I request that this thread be limited to
affirmative responses from atheistic Bush-supporters. To those who
wish to respond to affirmative votes rather than making one, I
politely request that you do so in a new thread if at all possible.
No big reason, it would just make it easier to tally the affirmative
responses, that's all. Thanks either way... :-)

I assume you're already counting me as an affirmative. That is if you
don't still have me killfiled.

You're a fake Bush supporter, admit it!
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
.
User: "Uncle Buck"

Title: Re: Anyone for a show of hands? re: Atheists who like/approve of GWB. 02 Jul 2005 10:04:40 AM
<piggybacking>
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in

Was "Are there any atheists who actually like George Bush?" I thought
the question could be put to a more "official" vote. :-) So...
Out of curiosity, who among the readership (lurkers included) are
atheists that like and/or approve of George W. Bush (no problemo if
lurkers wish to re-lurk after expressing their approval)?
If at all possible, I request that this thread be limited to
affirmative responses from atheistic Bush-supporters. To those who
wish to respond to affirmative votes rather than making one, I
politely request that you do so in a new thread if at all possible.
No big reason, it would just make it easier to tally the affirmative
responses, that's all. Thanks either way... :-)

I assume you're already counting me as an affirmative. That is if you
don't still have me killfiled.

Yes, Fred, I assumed you were an affirmative. I think I could
probably assume the same about Fester, too, though I might want to
research to be sure. Anyway, thanks for replying. :-)
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User: "Elroy Willis"

Title: Re: Anyone for a show of hands? re: Atheists who like/approve of GWB. 02 Jul 2005 08:13:07 AM
Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in alt.atheism

<piggybacking>
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in

Was "Are there any atheists who actually like George Bush?" I thought
the question could be put to a more "official" vote. :-) So...
Out of curiosity, who among the readership (lurkers included) are
atheists that like and/or approve of George W. Bush (no problemo if
lurkers wish to re-lurk after expressing their approval)?
If at all possible, I request that this thread be limited to
affirmative responses from atheistic Bush-supporters. To those who
wish to respond to affirmative votes rather than making one, I
politely request that you do so in a new thread if at all possible.
No big reason, it would just make it easier to tally the affirmative
responses, that's all. Thanks either way... :-)

I assume you're already counting me as an affirmative. That is if you
don't still have me killfiled.

Yes, Fred, I assumed you were an affirmative. I think I could
probably assume the same about Fester, too, though I might want to
research to be sure. Anyway, thanks for replying. :-)

Fred said he'd rather vote for Nader than Bush, in at least one post I
can remember... What a faker...
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
.


User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Anyone for a show of hands? re: Atheists who like/approve of GWB. 02 Jul 2005 08:56:15 AM
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
news:bnvcc119t9otgqglmfh84aittivefavu0q@4ax.com:

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in


Was "Are there any atheists who actually like George Bush?" I

thought

the question could be put to a more "official" vote. :-) So...


Out of curiosity, who among the readership (lurkers included) are
atheists that like and/or approve of George W. Bush (no problemo if
lurkers wish to re-lurk after expressing their approval)?


If at all possible, I request that this thread be limited to
affirmative responses from atheistic Bush-supporters. To those who
wish to respond to affirmative votes rather than making one, I
politely request that you do so in a new thread if at all possible.
No big reason, it would just make it easier to tally the affirmative
responses, that's all. Thanks either way... :-)


I assume you're already counting me as an affirmative. That is if you
don't still have me killfiled.


You're a fake Bush supporter, admit it!

Shhhhh!
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
.
User: "Elroy Willis"

Title: Re: Anyone for a show of hands? re: Atheists who like/approve of GWB. 03 Jul 2005 08:59:17 AM
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in

Was "Are there any atheists who actually like George Bush?" I
thought the question could be put to a more "official" vote. :-) So...
Out of curiosity, who among the readership (lurkers included) are
atheists that like and/or approve of George W. Bush (no problemo if
lurkers wish to re-lurk after expressing their approval)?
If at all possible, I request that this thread be limited to
affirmative responses from atheistic Bush-supporters. To those who
wish to respond to affirmative votes rather than making one, I
politely request that you do so in a new thread if at all possible.
No big reason, it would just make it easier to tally the affirmative
responses, that's all. Thanks either way... :-)

I assume you're already counting me as an affirmative. That is if you
don't still have me killfiled.

You're a fake Bush supporter, admit it!

Shhhhh!

No one besides you has replied to the question as far as I can tell...
Do you feel all alone over there, or what? :)
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
.
User: "Fester"

Title: Re: Anyone for a show of hands? re: Atheists who like/approve of GWB. 04 Jul 2005 12:51:01 PM
"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in


Was "Are there any atheists who actually like George Bush?" I
thought the question could be put to a more "official" vote. :-)
So...


Out of curiosity, who among the readership (lurkers included) are
atheists that like and/or approve of George W. Bush (no problemo if
lurkers wish to re-lurk after expressing their approval)?


If at all possible, I request that this thread be limited to
affirmative responses from atheistic Bush-supporters. To those who
wish to respond to affirmative votes rather than making one, I
politely request that you do so in a new thread if at all possible.
No big reason, it would just make it easier to tally the affirmative
responses, that's all. Thanks either way... :-)


I assume you're already counting me as an affirmative. That is if you
don't still have me killfiled.


You're a fake Bush supporter, admit it!


Shhhhh!


No one besides you has replied to the question as far as I can tell...

Do you feel all alone over there, or what? :)

I replied to the original message, and haven't felt the need to repeat
myself, until now. What's more, I wouldn't care if I were the only atheist
in the world who did like our President.
.
User: "Elroy Willis"

Title: Re: Anyone for a show of hands? re: Atheists who like/approve of GWB. 05 Jul 2005 06:46:20 AM
Fester <not@home.com> wrote in alt.atheism
<snip>

I replied to the original message, and haven't felt the need to repeat
myself, until now. What's more, I wouldn't care if I were the only atheist
in the world who did like our President.

That's admirable, I suppose, sticking up for someone, no matter what
other people think. :)
I'm just left wondering what you think is so great about Bush, and why
you support him... Is it the "in for a penny, in for a pound" type
thing, or what?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
.
User: "Fester"

Title: Re: Anyone for a show of hands? re: Atheists who like/approve of GWB. 05 Jul 2005 08:54:42 PM
"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
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Fester <not@home.com> wrote in alt.atheism

<snip>

I replied to the original message, and haven't felt the need to repeat
myself, until now. What's more, I wouldn't care if I were the only
atheist
in the world who did like our President.


That's admirable, I suppose, sticking up for someone, no matter what
other people think. :)

I'm just left wondering what you think is so great about Bush, and why
you support him...

Thanks for asking.
I like him for a number of reasons. He is a leader, who is more interested
in advancing the interests of our country than in following popular opinion.
I consider him to be an honest person who has the interests of our nation
first and foremost in his mind. I admire the way he responded to 9/11,
going on the offense to remove the cause of terrorism that seeks to destroy
us. That being, the existence of totalitarian regimes in the ME that
deprive their people of opportunity and continually use their power to
propagandize the US and Israel as scapegoats for their own failings.. I
like the way he's managed the economy, particularly his policy of cutting
taxes, implementing tort reform, and most recently taking a stab at
increasing our energy independance. I admire the appoiintments he has
made to our appellate courts and am eager to learn who his choice for
the recent SCOTUS vacancy will be.
Does he have his failings as a President? Of course. I don't think that he
does a good job of communicating. For example, he allowed the Iraqi war to
be defined by the left solely in terms of Saddam's possession of WMD, when
the issue was broader than that. He has not done enough to communicate what
we know about Saddam's active support of terrorist organizations and the
threat that those involvements combined with WMD technology transfer posed
to us. He has not expressed the reason for why and how the 9/11 attacks
changed our defensive posture so that we could no longer give our foes the
benefit of the doubt, but rather had to be proactive in removing the threats
of terror-sponsoring dicatators. He has allowed a needed Social Security
reform plan to wither on the vine. He has not done nearly enough to cut
government spending. He has not done enough to communicate and preserve
those aspects of the PATRIOT act which are useful and to recommend
droppng those measures which have not proven useful. I'm also critical of
his stance on medical research, especially his removal of Federal support
on stem cell research..
All in all, he has performed magnificently well in his most important
duties. His failings have mostly been the result of being a poor
communicator, and of allowing his political opposition to define and distort
the facts. I admire him for not giong out and challenging every bogus
slander that the Libs throw at him, but I think that his agenda would be
much better off if he would devote a little more time to keeping Americans
informed and managing public opinion.

Is it the "in for a penny, in for a pound" type thing, or what?

That's just an attempt to load your question.
Having composed this reply, I am sure that every swinging ***** of a Lib will
want to dispute my opinions point by point with nasty rhetoric. These are
my honest opinions, and I couldn't care less about Usenet flames.
.
User: "Elroy Willis"

Title: Re: Anyone for a show of hands? re: Atheists who like/approve of GWB. 06 Jul 2005 06:55:00 AM
Fester <not@home.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message

I'm just left wondering what you think is so great about Bush, and why
you support him...

Thanks for asking.
I like him for a number of reasons. He is a leader, who is more interested
in advancing the interests of our country than in following popular opinion.
I consider him to be an honest person who has the interests of our nation
first and foremost in his mind. I admire the way he responded to 9/11,
going on the offense to remove the cause of terrorism that seeks to destroy
us. That being, the existence of totalitarian regimes in the ME that
deprive their people of opportunity and continually use their power to
propagandize the US and Israel as scapegoats for their own failings.. I
like the way he's managed the economy, particularly his policy of cutting
taxes, implementing tort reform, and most recently taking a stab at
increasing our energy independance. I admire the appoiintments he has
made to our appellate courts and am eager to learn who his choice for
the recent SCOTUS vacancy will be.
Does he have his failings as a President? Of course. I don't think that he
does a good job of communicating. For example, he allowed the Iraqi war to
be defined by the left solely in terms of Saddam's possession of WMD, when
the issue was broader than that. He has not done enough to communicate what
we know about Saddam's active support of terrorist organizations and the
threat that those involvements combined with WMD technology transfer posed
to us. He has not expressed the reason for why and how the 9/11 attacks
changed our defensive posture so that we could no longer give our foes the
benefit of the doubt, but rather had to be proactive in removing the threats
of terror-sponsoring dicatators. He has allowed a needed Social Security
reform plan to wither on the vine. He has not done nearly enough to cut
government spending. He has not done enough to communicate and preserve
those aspects of the PATRIOT act which are useful and to recommend
droppng those measures which have not proven useful. I'm also critical of
his stance on medical research, especially his removal of Federal support
on stem cell research..
All in all, he has performed magnificently well in his most important
duties. His failings have mostly been the result of being a poor
communicator, and of allowing his political opposition to define and distort
the facts. I admire him for not giong out and challenging every bogus
slander that the Libs throw at him, but I think that his agenda would be
much better off if he would devote a little more time to keeping Americans
informed and managing public opinion.
Having composed this reply, I am sure that every swinging ***** of a Lib will
want to dispute my opinions point by point with nasty rhetoric. These are
my honest opinions, and I couldn't care less about Usenet flames.

If you hadn't listed so many of his failings, I might have challenged
you on what you consider his good accomplishments, but since you did,
I don't see the point. :)
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
.

User: "chibiabos"

Title: Re: Anyone for a show of hands? re: Atheists who like/approve of GWB. 05 Jul 2005 09:51:30 PM
In article <CRGye.58946$Oi4.590832@twister.southeast.rr.com>, Fester
<not@home.com> wrote:

"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:mfskc1thtroqn1guqborhjg9ppkt5ab99i@4ax.com...

Fester <not@home.com> wrote in alt.atheism

<snip>

I replied to the original message, and haven't felt the need to repeat
myself, until now. What's more, I wouldn't care if I were the only
atheist
in the world who did like our President.


That's admirable, I suppose, sticking up for someone, no matter what
other people think. :)

I'm just left wondering what you think is so great about Bush, and why
you support him...


Thanks for asking.

I like him for a number of reasons. He is a leader, who is more interested
in advancing the interests of our country than in following popular opinion.

Hold it right there. Bush isn't a king or an emperor. He's a president,
and he works for us. He's our *****, along with the rest of his gang
from Cheney on down. In a representative republic, he does what we tell
him, not the other way around. "Popular opinion" is his primary guide,
and he'd better start following it or resign and let someone else do
the job.
-chib
--
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
.
User: "Fester"

Title: Re: Anyone for a show of hands? re: Atheists who like/approve of GWB. 07 Jul 2005 05:54:12 AM
"chibiabos" <chib@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:050720051951300247%chib@nospam.com...

In article <CRGye.58946$Oi4.590832@twister.southeast.rr.com>, Fester
<not@home.com> wrote:

"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:mfskc1thtroqn1guqborhjg9ppkt5ab99i@4ax.com...

Fester <not@home.com> wrote in alt.atheism

<snip>

I replied to the original message, and haven't felt the need to repeat
myself, until now. What's more, I wouldn't care if I were the only
atheist
in the world who did like our President.


That's admirable, I suppose, sticking up for someone, no matter what
other people think. :)

I'm just left wondering what you think is so great about Bush, and why
you support him...


Thanks for asking.

I like him for a number of reasons. He is a leader, who is more
interested
in advancing the interests of our country than in following popular
opinion.


Hold it right there. Bush isn't a king or an emperor. He's a president,
and he works for us. He's our *****, along with the rest of his gang
from Cheney on down. In a representative republic, he does what we tell
him, not the other way around. "Popular opinion" is his primary guide,
and he'd better start following it or resign and let someone else do
the job.

It's rare that I choose to respond to such intentionally offensive
messages, but, despite the troll, I did want to draw your (and others')
attention to my sig. Needless to say, I think that Mr Burke got it right.
--
"Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgement; and
he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion"
Edmund Burke
.
User: "Elroy Willis"

Title: Re: Anyone for a show of hands? re: Atheists who like/approve of GWB. 07 Jul 2005 07:20:04 AM
Fester <not@home.com> wrote in alt.atheism

chibiabos <chib@nospam.com> wrote in message

Fester <not@home.com> wrote:

Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message

I'm just left wondering what you think is so great about Bush, and
why you support him...

Thanks for asking.
I like him for a number of reasons. He is a leader, who is more
interested in advancing the interests of our country than in following popular
opinion.

Hold it right there. Bush isn't a king or an emperor. He's a president,
and he works for us. He's our *****, along with the rest of his gang
from Cheney on down. In a representative republic, he does what we tell
him, not the other way around. "Popular opinion" is his primary guide,
and he'd better start following it or resign and let someone else do
the job.

It's rare that I choose to respond to such intentionally offensive
messages, but, despite the troll, I did want to draw your (and others')
attention to my sig. Needless to say, I think that Mr Burke got it right.
"Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgement;
and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion"
-- Edmund Burke

Where does that leave people who voted for someone because they
agreed with their policies and opinions at the time they voted for
them, only to see that person flip-flop on those policies and opinions
once they get elected?
Apart from feeling betrayed, what else?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
.
User: "Fester"

Title: Re: Anyone for a show of hands? re: Atheists who like/approve of GWB. 07 Jul 2005 06:56:26 PM
"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:q17qc1l6c1h1imeij42v31h2qhuljr6orv@4ax.com...

Fester <not@home.com> wrote in alt.atheism

chibiabos <chib@nospam.com> wrote in message

Fester <not@home.com> wrote:

Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message


I'm just left wondering what you think is so great about Bush, and
why you support him...


Thanks for asking.


I like him for a number of reasons. He is a leader, who is more
interested in advancing the interests of our country than in following
popular
opinion.


Hold it right there. Bush isn't a king or an emperor. He's a president,
and he works for us. He's our *****, along with the rest of his gang
from Cheney on down. In a representative republic, he does what we tell
him, not the other way around. "Popular opinion" is his primary guide,
and he'd better start following it or resign and let someone else do
the job.


It's rare that I choose to respond to such intentionally offensive
messages, but, despite the troll, I did want to draw your (and others')
attention to my sig. Needless to say, I think that Mr Burke got it
right.


"Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgement;
and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your
opinion"
-- Edmund Burke


Where does that leave people who voted for someone because they
agreed with their policies and opinions at the time they voted for
them, only to see that person flip-flop on those policies and opinions
once they get elected?

Apart from feeling betrayed, what else?

It depends upon WHY their representative went against his campaign promise.
The key word, is "judgement." As a general rule pols should live up to
their promises, but only if those promises continue to advance the interests
of their constituents (in the JUDGEMENT of the office-holder). When
conditions change, the pol must adapt to them and at times this means going
against a campaign promise. Sometimes the office-holder is privy to
information that the general public is not allowed to know.
An obvious example, is Bush's 2000 campaign promises to avoid
nation-building. He began his administration attemtping to do just that.
However, the 9/11 attacks altered our defense posture, and in his HIS
JUDGEMENT, our safety required that the totalitarian regimes in
Afghanistan and Iraq must be overthrown and replaced with representative
forms of government. The voters expressed their opinion on his exercise
of judgemnet in 2004, when he was re-elected.
Does this make the pol unaccountable? Certainly not, as chib would have us
believe in his own, obnoxious way. First off, all of our elected officials
relinquish their office at the end of their preset terms of office and face
the voters, if they are eligible for re-election. Secondly, we have
multicameral government at the Federal, State and municipal levels to check
each other. Thridly, we have Constitutional safeguards to limit the
authority of each branch of government.
All of this SHOULD be obvious, and belaboring it is an exercise in tedium.
I often find it shocking and even sad that posts like this should need to be
written at all.
.


User: "chibiabos"

Title: Re: Anyone for a show of hands? re: Atheists who like/approve of GWB. 07 Jul 2005 08:28:53 AM
In article <oR7ze.41091$_a.493777@twister.southeast.rr.com>, Fester
<not@home.com> wrote:

Hold it right there. Bush isn't a king or an emperor. He's a president,
and he works for us. He's our *****, along with the rest of his gang
from Cheney on down. In a representative republic, he does what we tell
him, not the other way around. "Popular opinion" is his primary guide,
and he'd better start following it or resign and let someone else do
the job.


It's rare that I choose to respond to such intentionally offensive
messages, but, despite the troll, I did want to draw your (and others')
attention to my sig. Needless to say, I think that Mr Burke got it right.

--

"Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgement; and
he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion"
Edmund Burke

Edmund Burke notwithstanding, I'm not so PC I don't know when to use
offensive words when they fit. It's offensive for American boys to come
home in boxes to "serve" some pie-eyed neocon dream of American empire,
a dream not held in regard by a growing majority of the American
people, and certainly not by the world.
-chib
--
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
.


User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Anyone for a show of hands? re: Atheists who like/approve of GWB. 05 Jul 2005 10:31:08 PM
chibiabos <chib@nospam.com> wrote in
news:050720051951300247%chib@nospam.com:

In article <CRGye.58946$Oi4.590832@twister.southeast.rr.com>, Fester
<not@home.com> wrote:

"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:mfskc1thtroqn1guqborhjg9ppkt5ab99i@4ax.com...

Fester <not@home.com> wrote in alt.atheism

<snip>

I replied to the original message, and haven't felt the need to
repeat myself, until now. What's more, I wouldn't care if I were
the only atheist
in the world who did like our President.


That's admirable, I suppose, sticking up for someone, no matter
what other people think. :)

I'm just left wondering what you think is so great about Bush, and
why you support him...


Thanks for asking.

I like him for a number of reasons. He is a leader, who is more
interested in advancing the interests of our country than in
following popular opinion.


Hold it right there. Bush isn't a king or an emperor. He's a
president, and he works for us. He's our *****, along with the rest
of his gang from Cheney on down. In a representative republic, he does
what we tell him, not the other way around. "Popular opinion" is his
primary guide, and he'd better start following it or resign and let
someone else do the job.

The Founders did everything they could to ensure that American
government would *not* be like what you describe. Popular opinion blows
with the wind of events. Leadership means to set a course and sail it,
not go where the wind blows.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
.




User: "Uncle Buck"

Title: Re: Anyone for a show of hands? re: Atheists who like/approve of GWB. 04 Jul 2005 04:44:37 PM
On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:51:01 GMT, "Fester" <not@home.com> wrote:

"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:qjrfc1t3niq8dsj28dv33ipskt3mc35cic@4ax.com...

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in


Was "Are there any atheists who actually like George Bush?" I
thought the question could be put to a more "official" vote. :-)
So...


Out of curiosity, who among the readership (lurkers included) are
atheists that like and/or approve of George W. Bush (no problemo if
lurkers wish to re-lurk after expressing their approval)?


If at all possible, I request that this thread be limited to
affirmative responses from atheistic Bush-supporters. To those who
wish to respond to affirmative votes rather than making one, I
politely request that you do so in a new thread if at all possible.
No big reason, it would just make it easier to tally the affirmative
responses, that's all. Thanks either way... :-)


I assume you're already counting me as an affirmative. That is if you
don't still have me killfiled.


You're a fake Bush supporter, admit it!


Shhhhh!


No one besides you has replied to the question as far as I can tell...

Do you feel all alone over there, or what? :)


I replied to the original message, and haven't felt the need to repeat
myself, until now. What's more, I wouldn't care if I were the only atheist
in the world who did like our President.

Ah, I didn't see your original reply. So thanks for repeating
yourself. ;-) And that, I respect - not caring what others think of
your views or worrying about whether they're "unpopular".
So that's two so far. If anyone's seen any other replies that I
appear to have missed (I've only got Fred & Fester so far), please let
me know. Merci. :-)
.
User: "John Baker"

Title: Re: Anyone for a show of hands? re: Atheists who like/approve of GWB. 04 Jul 2005 11:40:21 PM
On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:44:37 -0700, Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:

On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:51:01 GMT, "Fester" <not@home.com> wrote:

"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:qjrfc1t3niq8dsj28dv33ipskt3mc35cic@4ax.com...

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in


Was "Are there any atheists who actually like George Bush?" I
thought the question could be put to a more "official" vote. :-)
So...


Out of curiosity, who among the readership (lurkers included) are
atheists that like and/or approve of George W. Bush (no problemo if
lurkers wish to re-lurk after expressing their approval)?


If at all possible, I request that this thread be limited to
affirmative responses from atheistic Bush-supporters. To those who
wish to respond to affirmative votes rather than making one, I
politely request that you do so in a new thread if at all possible.
No big reason, it would just make it easier to tally the affirmative
responses, that's all. Thanks either way... :-)


I assume you're already counting me as an affirmative. That is if you
don't still have me killfiled.


You're a fake Bush supporter, admit it!


Shhhhh!


No one besides you has replied to the question as far as I can tell...

Do you feel all alone over there, or what? :)


I replied to the original message, and haven't felt the need to repeat
myself, until now. What's more, I wouldn't care if I were the only atheist
in the world who did like our President.


Ah, I didn't see your original reply. So thanks for repeating
yourself. ;-) And that, I respect - not caring what others think of
your views or worrying about whether they're "unpopular".

So that's two so far. If anyone's seen any other replies that I
appear to have missed (I've only got Fred & Fester so far), please let
me know. Merci. :-)

And that's about all you'll get. <G>
.
User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: Anyone for a show of hands? re: Atheists who like/approve of GWB. 05 Jul 2005 01:01:16 AM
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:0o3kc1lgmqls033gu5f0iircs11bfi59ja@4ax.com...

On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 14:44:37 -0700, Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com>

wrote:


On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 17:51:01 GMT, "Fester" <not@home.com> wrote:

"Elroy Willis" <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:qjrfc1t3niq8dsj28dv33ipskt3mc35cic@4ax.com...

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in


Was "Are there any atheists who actually like George Bush?" I
thought the question could be put to a more "official" vote. :-)
So...


Out of curiosity, who among the readership (lurkers included) are
atheists that like and/or approve of George W. Bush (no problemo

if

lurkers wish to re-lurk after expressing their approval)?


If at all possible, I request that this thread be limited to
affirmative responses from atheistic Bush-supporters. To those

who

wish to respond to affirmative votes rather than making one, I
politely request that you do so in a new thread if at all

possible.

No big reason, it would just make it easier to tally the

affirmative

responses, that's all. Thanks either way... :-)


I assume you're already counting me as an affirmative. That is if

you

don't still have me killfiled.


You're a fake Bush supporter, admit it!


Shhhhh!


No one besides you has replied to the question as far as I can tell...

Do you feel all alone over there, or what? :)


I replied to the original message, and haven't felt the need to repeat
myself, until now. What's more, I wouldn't care if I were the only

atheist

in the world who did like our President.


Ah, I didn't see your original reply. So thanks for repeating
yourself. ;-) And that, I respect - not caring what others think of
your views or worrying about whether they're "unpopular".

So that's two so far. If anyone's seen any other replies that I
appear to have missed (I've only got Fred & Fester so far), please let
me know. Merci. :-)


And that's about all you'll get. <G>

And, considering that they've both turned into trolls,
it isn't much. <VBG>
.




User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Anyone for a show of hands? re: Atheists who like/approve of GWB. 03 Jul 2005 09:57:58 AM
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
news:qjrfc1t3niq8dsj28dv33ipskt3mc35cic@4ax.com:

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in


Was "Are there any atheists who actually like George Bush?" I
thought the question could be put to a more "official" vote. :-)
So...


Out of curiosity, who among the readership (lurkers included) are
atheists that like and/or approve of George W. Bush (no problemo
if lurkers wish to re-lurk after expressing their approval)?


If at all possible, I request that this thread be limited to
affirmative responses from atheistic Bush-supporters. To those
who wish to respond to affirmative votes rather than making one, I
politely request that you do so in a new thread if at all
possible. No big reason, it would just make it easier to tally the
affirmative responses, that's all. Thanks either way... :-)


I assume you're already counting me as an affirmative. That is if
you don't still have me killfiled.


You're a fake Bush supporter, admit it!


Shhhhh!


No one besides you has replied to the question as far as I can tell...

Do you feel all alone over there, or what? :)

I saw at least one or two other more-or-less affirmative replies.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
.
User: "Clockmeister"

Title: Re: Anyone for a show of hands? re: Atheists who like/approve of GWB. 04 Jul 2005 05:47:07 PM
I wish Bush dead, along with all the other terrorists.
Does that answer the question?
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1120402679.accd9cb2f279fcf542c68ddd7f7ccce9@teranews...

Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
news:qjrfc1t3niq8dsj28dv33ipskt3mc35cic@4ax.com:

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in

Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in alt.atheism

Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in


Was "Are there any atheists who actually like George Bush?" I
thought the question could be put to a more "official" vote. :-)
So...


Out of curiosity, who among the readership (lurkers included) are
atheists that like and/or approve of George W. Bush (no problemo
if lurkers wish to re-lurk after expressing their approval)?


If at all possible, I request that this thread be limited to
affirmative responses from atheistic Bush-supporters. To those
who wish to respond to affirmative votes rather than making one, I
politely request that you do so in a new thread if at all
possible. No big reason, it would just make it easier to tally the
affirmative responses, that's all. Thanks either way... :-)


I assume you're already counting me as an affirmative. That is if
you don't still have me killfiled.


You're a fake Bush supporter, admit it!


Shhhhh!


No one besides you has replied to the question as far as I can tell...

Do you feel all alone over there, or what? :)


I saw at least one or two other more-or-less affirmative replies.

--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]

.





User: "igtheist"

Title: Re: Anyone for a show of hands? re: Atheists who like/approve of GWB. 11 Jul 2005 09:25:47 PM
Uncle Buck wrote:

Was "Are there any atheists who actually like George Bush?" I thought
the question could be put to a more "official" vote. :-) So...

Just to be clear. I don't like him but for reasons that might not
conform to your expectations. Bush lied to us about Islam's ties to
terrorism. Bush is a hypocrite on economic issues. Bush isn't doing
anthing about protecting our borders. Bush's airline security
measures are ridiculous, we should profile, should allow armed pilots,
and should allow nailclippers. Bush is wasting our money on Iraq, let
the Iraqi's pay with their oil revenues. Bush is doing nothing about
the root of terrorism, Saudi oil funds supporting Islamic
fundamentalism.
.

User: "Gregory Gadow"

Title: Re: Are there any atheists who actually like George Bush? 01 Jul 2005 05:09:23 PM
muldoon wrote:

4th of July coming up. The President wants everyone to participate.

The principles of American freedom and the values expressed in the
Declaration of Independence are the antithesis of everything that the
Current Regime stands for. Bush asking me to participate in the true
spirit of the 4th of July is like the Pope asking folks to march for a
woman's right to an abortion.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"It is necessary to the happiness of man that he be mentally faithful
to himself. Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in
disbelieving;
it consists in professing to believe what one does not believe. It is
impossible to calculate the moral mischief, if I may so express it, that
mental lying has produced in society. When man has so far corrupted and
prostituted the chastity of his mind, as to subscribe his professional
belief to things he does not believe, he has prepared himself for the
commission of every other crime." - Thomas Paine, "The Age of Reason"
.
User: "towelie"

Title: AQOTM (wasRe: Are there any atheists who actually like George Bush?) 02 Jul 2005 01:40:35 AM
TV's Gregory Gadow wrote:

The principles of American freedom and the values expressed in the
Declaration of Independence are the antithesis of everything that the
Current Regime stands for. Bush asking me to participate in the true
spirit of the 4th of July is like the Pope asking folks to march for a
woman's right to an abortion.

--
Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.
A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing.
- Maynard James Keenan
The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing. - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
aa #2133
ap #19
.
User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: AQOTM (wasRe: Are there any atheists who actually like George Bush?) 02 Jul 2005 12:11:25 PM
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, towelie (bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com)
delivered this momentous dissertation:

TV's Gregory Gadow wrote:

The principles of American freedom and the values expressed in the
Declaration of Independence are the antithesis of everything that the
Current Regime stands for. Bush asking me to participate in the true
spirit of the 4th of July is like the Pope asking folks to march for a
woman's right to an abortion.

Seconds!
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
Lovingly plonked by Roger Pearse
______________
"I'm sickened by all religions. Religion has divided people. I don't think
there's any difference between the pope wearing a large hat and parading
around with a smoking purse and an African painting his face white and
praying to a rock."
[Howard Stern]
.
User: "*nemo*"

Title: Re: AQOTM (wasRe: Are there any atheists who actually like George Bush?) 05 Jul 2005 07:58:13 PM
In article <Xns968767D54531Fvicman@216.196.97.136>,
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote:

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, towelie (bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com)
delivered this momentous dissertation:

TV's Gregory Gadow wrote:

The principles of American freedom and the values expressed in the
Declaration of Independence are the antithesis of everything that the
Current Regime stands for. Bush asking me to participate in the true
spirit of the 4th of July is like the Pope asking folks to march for a
woman's right to an abortion.


Seconds!

Recorded.
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
.




User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: Are there any atheists who actually like George Bush? 01 Jul 2005 04:06:06 PM
on 01 Jul 2005 in alt.atheism, muldoon dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:

4th of July coming up. The President wants everyone to participate.


I prefer making double scale over burning my money.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
.
User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: Are there any atheists who actually like George Bush? 01 Jul 2005 10:19:26 PM
"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96868F8E2EFF6vicman@127.0.0.1...

on 01 Jul 2005 in alt.atheism, muldoon dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:

4th of July coming up. The President wants everyone to participate.



I prefer making double scale over burning my money.

My office is closed. I'll probably go to the movies.
Squatter Bush can go stuff himself.
--
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
alt.atheism atheist/agnostic list name collector
BAAWA Knight & EAC Bible thumper thumper
http://questioner.www2.50megs.com
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^

--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department

Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________

As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson

.

User: "muldoon"

Title: Re: Are there any atheists who actually like George Bush? 02 Jul 2005 12:55:31 AM
Vic Sagerquist wrote:

on 01 Jul 2005 in alt.atheism, muldoon dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:

4th of July coming up. The President wants everyone to participate.

Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011

And he means you too Vic. And you'll need a suit and black shoes for
the parade. Don't forget. 9 A.M. sharp.
.
User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: Are there any atheists who actually like George Bush? 02 Jul 2005 12:10:12 PM
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, muldoon (brian9511@dslextreme.com)
delivered this momentous dissertation:



Vic Sagerquist wrote:

on 01 Jul 2005 in alt.atheism, muldoon dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then shouted:

4th of July coming up. The President wants everyone to participate.


Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011


And he means you too Vic. And you'll need a suit and black shoes
for
the parade. Don't forget. 9 A.M. sharp.


OK, I'll be there, but I only wear body paint on the weekend.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
Lovingly plonked by Roger Pearse
______________
"I'm sickened by all religions. Religion has divided people. I don't
think there's any difference between the pope wearing a large hat and
parading around with a smoking purse and an African painting his face
white and praying to a rock."
[Howard Stern]
.




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