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02 Apr 2007 05:00:02 PM |
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Are You Obeying The Ten Commandments? 4-2-2007. |
Romans 13: 11-14.
And do this because you know the time; it is the hour now for you to
awake from sleep. For our salvation is nearer now than when we first
believed; the night is advanced, the day is at hand. Let us then
throw off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light; let us
conduct ourselves properly as in the day, not in orgies and
drunkeness, not in promiscuity and licentiousness, not in rivalry and
jealousy. But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for
the desires of the flesh.
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02 Apr 2007 07:53:19 PM |
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<vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote in message
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Which ten commandments? There are three different versions.
The Catholic version
The Protestant version
and the Jewish version
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02 Apr 2007 09:43:02 PM |
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Bill M wrote:
<vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote in message
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Which ten commandments? There are three different versions.
The Catholic version
The Protestant version
and the Jewish version
and every other belief and/or faith has something along the
same lines.
these 'rules to live by' are all man made, like our gods
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02 Apr 2007 09:39:02 PM |
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"vivapadrepio@aol.com" wrote:
Romans 13: 11-14.
And do this because you know the time; it is the hour now for you to
awake from sleep. For our salvation is nearer now than when we first
believed; the night is advanced, the day is at hand. Let us then
throw off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light; let us
conduct ourselves properly as in the day, not in orgies and
drunkeness, not in promiscuity and licentiousness, not in rivalry and
jealousy. But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for
the desires of the flesh.
Great ............and in one generation we wipe ourselves out with no
more children coming along
the banality of religions
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| User: "taiki" |
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02 Apr 2007 10:36:00 PM |
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Romans 13: 11-14.
And do this because you know the time; it is the hour now for you to
awake from sleep. For our salvation is nearer now than when we first
believed; the night is advanced, the day is at hand. Let us then
throw off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light; let us
conduct ourselves properly as in the day, not in orgies and
drunkeness, not in promiscuity and licentiousness, not in rivalry and
jealousy. But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for
the desires of the flesh.
No.
I worked saturday.
-taiki
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04 Apr 2007 06:14:55 AM |
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Romans 13: 11-14.
And do this because you know the time; it is the hour now for you to
awake from sleep. For our salvation is nearer now than when we first
believed; the night is advanced, the day is at hand. Let us then
throw off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light; let us
conduct ourselves properly as in the day, not in orgies and
drunkeness, not in promiscuity and licentiousness, not in rivalry and
jealousy. But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for
the desires of the flesh.
Why aren't you praying and keeping the shabbos holy?
I've got a few posts here of you posting on saturday(traditional jewish
Shabbos) and sunday (traditional Christian sabbath).
what's the deal?
-taiki
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| User: "Jeff Shirton" |
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04 Apr 2007 05:32:49 PM |
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"taiki" <taiki@cox.net> wrote in message
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Why aren't you praying and keeping the shabbos holy?
Why are you judging others?
I've got a few posts here of you posting on saturday(traditional jewish
Shabbos) and sunday (traditional Christian sabbath).
what's the deal?
There is no commandment in Torah prohibiting posting on the
internet on the Sabbath.
(And FYI, Sunday isn't the Christian "Sabbath".)
And finally, you might (if you insist on criticizing CHRISTians),
want to read about what Christ said about the Sabbath being
made for man, not man for the Sabbath.
-taiki
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but that God became a man." -- James White
Challenge me (Theophilus) for a game of chess at Chessworld.net!
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| User: "taiki" |
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05 Apr 2007 03:37:19 AM |
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Jeff Shirton wrote:
"taiki" <taiki@cox.net> wrote in message
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Why aren't you praying and keeping the shabbos holy?
Why are you judging others?
I've got a few posts here of you posting on saturday(traditional jewish
Shabbos) and sunday (traditional Christian sabbath).
what's the deal?
There is no commandment in Torah prohibiting posting on the
internet on the Sabbath.
(And FYI, Sunday isn't the Christian "Sabbath".)
And finally, you might (if you insist on criticizing CHRISTians),
want to read about what Christ said about the Sabbath being
made for man, not man for the Sabbath.
Exodus 20:8
"Remember the sabbath day and keep it holy."
Deuteronomy 5:12
"Observe the sabbath day and keep it holy as the Lord your God commanded
you."
Now, some christian scholars believe because Jesus died on the first
day, we take the first day off instead of the last day off to remember him.
In either case, you're taking 6 days of work, 1 day off.
Christ might have said that the Sabbath being made for man, but I'm
fairly certain the torah and the talmud have different things to say.
-taiki
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| User: "Helen" |
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06 Apr 2007 09:04:06 PM |
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"taiki" <taiki@cox.net> wrote in message
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Jeff Shirton wrote:
"taiki" <taiki@cox.net> wrote in message
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Why aren't you praying and keeping the shabbos holy?
Why are you judging others?
I've got a few posts here of you posting on saturday(traditional jewish
Shabbos) and sunday (traditional Christian sabbath).
what's the deal?
There is no commandment in Torah prohibiting posting on the
internet on the Sabbath.
(And FYI, Sunday isn't the Christian "Sabbath".)
And finally, you might (if you insist on criticizing CHRISTians),
want to read about what Christ said about the Sabbath being
made for man, not man for the Sabbath.
Exodus 20:8
"Remember the sabbath day and keep it holy."
Deuteronomy 5:12
"Observe the sabbath day and keep it holy as the Lord your God commanded
you."
Now, some christian scholars believe because Jesus died on the first day,
we take the first day off instead of the last day off to remember him.
In either case, you're taking 6 days of work, 1 day off.
Christ might have said that the Sabbath being made for man, but I'm fairly
certain the torah and the talmud have different things to say.
-taiki
There are some occupations which require one to work on the Sabbath..(Like
my job as a nurse, and I don't feel remotely guilty b/c it is a necessary
role.).
There are other jobs like police force, , DR, paramedic, solider...blah blah
blah...I am sure that religious wig nuts would complain if they had a car
wreck on a Sunday and no one was there to help them in a medical capacity
b/c they were all too busy observing the sabbath..
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05 Apr 2007 05:51:46 PM |
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"taiki" <taiki@cox.net> wrote in message
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There is no commandment in Torah prohibiting posting on the
internet on the Sabbath.
Exodus 20:8
"Remember the sabbath day and keep it holy."
That says nothing prohibiting posting on the internet on the
Sabbath.
Deuteronomy 5:12
"Observe the sabbath day and keep it holy as the Lord your God commanded
you."
That says nothing prohibiting posting on the internet on the
Sabbath.
Now, some christian scholars believe because Jesus died on the first day,
we take the first day off instead of the last day off to remember him.
Sunday is not the "Christian Sabbath", no matter how many
times you want to claim it is.
Christ might have said that the Sabbath being made for man, but I'm fairly
certain the torah and the talmud have different things to say.
Torah doesn't contradict Christ,
and the talmud is irrelevant, having no authority.
-taiki
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Jeff Shirton (PP-ASEL) jshirton at cogeco dot ca
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"[T]he gospel is not that man can become god,
but that God became a man." -- James White
Challenge me (Theophilus) for a game of chess at Chessworld.net!
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| User: "Helen" |
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06 Apr 2007 09:04:38 PM |
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"Jeff Shirton" <unlisted@burlington.ca> wrote in message
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"taiki" <taiki@cox.net> wrote in message
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There is no commandment in Torah prohibiting posting on the
internet on the Sabbath.
Exodus 20:8
"Remember the sabbath day and keep it holy."
That says nothing prohibiting posting on the internet on the
Sabbath.
Figures.. no computers then;;
Deuteronomy 5:12
"Observe the sabbath day and keep it holy as the Lord your God commanded
you."
That says nothing prohibiting posting on the internet on the
Sabbath.
Now, some christian scholars believe because Jesus died on the first day,
we take the first day off instead of the last day off to remember him.
Sunday is not the "Christian Sabbath", no matter how many
times you want to claim it is.
Christ might have said that the Sabbath being made for man, but I'm
fairly certain the torah and the talmud have different things to say.
Torah doesn't contradict Christ,
and the talmud is irrelevant, having no authority.
-taiki
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Jeff Shirton (PP-ASEL) jshirton at cogeco dot
ca
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"[T]he gospel is not that man can become god,
but that God became a man." -- James White
Challenge me (Theophilus) for a game of chess at Chessworld.net!
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06 Apr 2007 12:14:57 AM |
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On 5-Apr-2007, "Jeff Shirton" <unlisted@burlington.ca> wrote:
"taiki" <taiki@cox.net> wrote in message
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There is no commandment in Torah prohibiting posting on the
internet on the Sabbath.
Exodus 20:8
"Remember the sabbath day and keep it holy."
That says nothing prohibiting posting on the internet on the
Sabbath.
Sure it does.
it's not our fault you're ignorant.
Deuteronomy 5:12
"Observe the sabbath day and keep it holy as the Lord your God commanded
you."
That says nothing prohibiting posting on the internet on the
Sabbath.
Sure it does.
it's not our fault you're ignorant.
Now, some christian scholars believe because Jesus died on the first
day,
we take the first day off instead of the last day off to remember him.
Sunday is not the "Christian Sabbath", no matter how many
times you want to claim it is.
Whatever.
Christ might have said that the Sabbath being made for man, but I'm
fairly
certain the torah and the talmud have different things to say.
Torah doesn't contradict Christ,
Yes it does.
and the talmud is irrelevant, having no authority.
Only to bigots.
See? I can be as obnoxious as you!
Susan
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| User: "taiki" |
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05 Apr 2007 03:38:38 AM |
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Jeff Shirton wrote:
There is no commandment in Torah prohibiting posting on the
internet on the Sabbath.
Actually, there is.
the observation of the sabbath by orthodox jews means even no light
switches.
-taiki
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| User: "Helen" |
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06 Apr 2007 09:06:25 PM |
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"taiki" <taiki@cox.net> wrote in message
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Jeff Shirton wrote:
There is no commandment in Torah prohibiting posting on the
internet on the Sabbath.
Actually, there is.
the observation of the sabbath by orthodox jews means even no light
switches.
-taiki
If they become gravely ill what then? Don't seek medical help? If there is a
fire. don't call the fire brigade b/c that would mean they have to get
someone to work? Just curious? There must be some logic applied..
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| User: "cactus" |
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07 Apr 2007 10:23:46 PM |
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Helen wrote:
"taiki" <taiki@cox.net> wrote in message
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Jeff Shirton wrote:
There is no commandment in Torah prohibiting posting on the
internet on the Sabbath.
Actually, there is.
the observation of the sabbath by orthodox jews means even no light
switches.
-taiki
If they become gravely ill what then? Don't seek medical help? If there is a
fire. don't call the fire brigade b/c that would mean they have to get
someone to work? Just curious? There must be some logic applied..
Commandments are superseded by matters of health or life and death. For
example, pregnant women are not expected to fast on Yom Kippur because
that could affect their health. Similarly, one could call the fire
department if there were a fire on Shabbat.
Halacha (Jewish canon law) has kept up with the times to some extent. My
favorite example is elevators - people should not be expected to walk up
the stairs to their high-rise apartment (or when visiting hospitals
etc), so the device that recaptures potential energy from a descending
elevator is disabled, so that no work is done, and fewer sparks kindled.
Whatever works...
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| User: "Helen" |
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08 Apr 2007 01:21:23 AM |
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"cactus" <bm1@nonespam.com> wrote in message
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Helen wrote:
"taiki" <taiki@cox.net> wrote in message
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Jeff Shirton wrote:
There is no commandment in Torah prohibiting posting on the
internet on the Sabbath.
Actually, there is.
the observation of the sabbath by orthodox jews means even no light
switches.
-taiki
If they become gravely ill what then? Don't seek medical help? If there
is a fire. don't call the fire brigade b/c that would mean they have to
get someone to work? Just curious? There must be some logic applied..
Commandments are superseded by matters of health or life and death. For
example, pregnant women are not expected to fast on Yom Kippur because
that could affect their health. Similarly, one could call the fire
department if there were a fire on Shabbat.
That is make sense.. I would also assume that a diabetic would not be
expected to fast either....
Halacha (Jewish canon law) has kept up with the times to some extent. My
favorite example is elevators - people should not be expected to walk up
the stairs to their high-rise apartment (or when visiting hospitals etc),
so the device that recaptures potential energy from a descending elevator
is disabled, so that no work is done, and fewer sparks kindled. Whatever
works...
Thank you for your answer....
cheers
Helen
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05 Apr 2007 05:54:13 PM |
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"taiki" <taiki@cox.net> wrote in message
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Jeff Shirton wrote:
There is no commandment in Torah prohibiting posting on the
internet on the Sabbath.
Actually, there is.
Actually, there is not.
(Which is why you didn't quote any.)
the observation of the sabbath by orthodox jews means even
no light switches.
I didn't ask what "orthodox jews" believes.
I was talking about what the Torah teaches.
In case you weren't aware, they aren't the same thing.
-taiki
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Jeff Shirton (PP-ASEL) jshirton at cogeco dot ca
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but that God became a man." -- James White
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06 Apr 2007 02:41:23 AM |
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Jeff Shirton wrote:
"taiki" <taiki@cox.net> wrote in message
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Jeff Shirton wrote:
There is no commandment in Torah prohibiting posting on the
internet on the Sabbath.
Actually, there is.
Actually, there is not.
(Which is why you didn't quote any.)
There is.
Some Rabinnical scholars believe that turning on or off electrical
devices during the Sabbath constitutes "kindling a fire." Thus, turning
off constitutes extinguishing a fire.
the observation of the sabbath by orthodox jews means even
no light switches.
I didn't ask what "orthodox jews" believes.
I was talking about what the Torah teaches.
In case you weren't aware, they aren't the same thing.
Actually, Jesus' authority derives from scripture that explicitly states
that the messiah will follow jewish law and the rules for what is and is
not allowed during the sabbath is in the old testament.
This is why Jesus is not the messiah. Because assholes like you still
eat at Red Lobster.
I'd cite my sources, but do I really need to cite any number of
Rabbinical teachings on why Jesus is not the messiah, or how it relates
to the sabbath, or how it relates to the sabbath, creation, genesis, and
the ten commandments? No, because I doubt you'd even read them.
-taiki
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06 Apr 2007 04:12:06 PM |
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On 6-Apr-2007, taiki <taiki@cox.net> wrote:
Jeff Shirton wrote:
"taiki" <taiki@cox.net> wrote in message
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Jeff Shirton wrote:
There is no commandment in Torah prohibiting posting on the
internet on the Sabbath.
Actually, there is.
Actually, there is not.
(Which is why you didn't quote any.)
There is.
Some Rabinnical scholars believe that turning on or off electrical
devices during the Sabbath constitutes "kindling a fire." Thus, turning
off constitutes extinguishing a fire.
As well as completing a circuit.
We are not to create or destroy on Shabbos.
the observation of the sabbath by orthodox jews means even
no light switches.
I didn't ask what "orthodox jews" believes.
I was talking about what the Torah teaches.
In case you weren't aware, they aren't the same thing.
Actually, Jesus' authority derives from scripture that explicitly states
that the messiah will follow jewish law and the rules for what is and is
not allowed during the sabbath is in the old testament.
This is why Jesus is not the messiah.
As well as not having fulfilled any of the things Moshiach is supposed to do
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and before he dies. No "coming back" to finish what he forgot to do.
Because assholes like you still
eat at Red Lobster.
I'd cite my sources, but do I really need to cite any number of
Rabbinical teachings on why Jesus is not the messiah, or how it relates
to the sabbath, or how it relates to the sabbath, creation, genesis, and
the ten commandments? No, because I doubt you'd even read them.
Precisely.
Susan
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06 Apr 2007 12:16:34 AM |
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On 5-Apr-2007, "Jeff Shirton" <unlisted@burlington.ca> wrote:
"taiki" <taiki@cox.net> wrote in message
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Jeff Shirton wrote:
There is no commandment in Torah prohibiting posting on the
internet on the Sabbath.
Actually, there is.
Actually, there is not.
(Which is why you didn't quote any.)
Yes, there is & he did - you just pretended he didn't because
you didn't want to have to agree with him.
the observation of the sabbath by orthodox jews means even
no light switches.
I didn't ask what "orthodox jews" believes.
I was talking about what the Torah teaches.
IOW, you were being even more bigoted this time than last.
In case you weren't aware, they aren't the same thing.
Just because you're a bigoted moron doesn't mean anyone else is.
Going to keep spamming scj with your bigoted filth?
Then you're going to get it right back in your face.
Susan
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04 Apr 2007 11:11:11 PM |
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On 4-Apr-2007, "Jeff Shirton" <unlisted@burlington.ca> wrote:
taiki" <taiki@cox.net> wrote in message
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Why aren't you praying and keeping the shabbos holy?
Why are you judging others?
Because the "others" were judging everyone else, and
he was holding "others" to "their" own standards.
I've got a few posts here of you posting on saturday(traditional jewish
Shabbos) and sunday (traditional Christian sabbath).
what's the deal?
There is no commandment in Torah prohibiting posting on the
internet on the Sabbath.
"Remember the Sabbath day & keep it holy."
Susan
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04 Apr 2007 09:01:21 AM |
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"taiki" <taiki@cox.net> wrote in message news:JMLQh.146057$6P2.87461@newsfe16.phx...
vivapadrepio@aol.com wrote:
Romans 13: 11-14.
And do this because you know the time; it is the hour now for you to
awake from sleep. For our salvation is nearer now than when we first
believed; the night is advanced, the day is at hand. Let us then
throw off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light; let us
conduct ourselves properly as in the day, not in orgies and
drunkeness, not in promiscuity and licentiousness, not in rivalry and
jealousy. But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for
the desires of the flesh.
http://bibleweb.info/10.html
Why aren't you praying and keeping the shabbos holy?
I've got a few posts here of you posting on saturday(traditional jewish
Shabbos) and sunday (traditional Christian sabbath).
what's the deal?
-taiki
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04 Apr 2007 01:23:30 PM |
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vivapadrepio@aol.com wrote:
Romans 13: 11-14.
And do this because you know the time; it is the hour now for you to
awake from sleep. For our salvation is nearer now than when we first
believed; the night is advanced, the day is at hand. Let us then
throw off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light; let us
conduct ourselves properly as in the day, not in orgies and
drunkeness, not in promiscuity and licentiousness, not in rivalry and
jealousy. But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for
the desires of the flesh.
http://bibleweb.info/10.html
Why aren't you praying and keeping the shabbos holy?
I've got a few posts here of you posting on saturday(traditional jewish
Shabbos) and sunday (traditional Christian sabbath).
what's the deal?
-taiki
Monday is my day of rest.
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04 Apr 2007 11:10:02 PM |
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On 4-Apr-2007, taiki <taiki@cox.net> wrote:
vivapadrepio@aol.com wrote:
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Why aren't you praying and keeping the shabbos holy?
I've got a few posts here of you posting on saturday(traditional jewish
Shabbos) and sunday (traditional Christian sabbath).
what's the deal?
It's called "hypocrisy".
He's real good at it.
Susan
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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| Title: Re: Are You Obeying The Ten Commandments? 4-2-2007. |
02 Apr 2007 06:26:47 PM |
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In article <1175551202.111987.302000@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
vivapadrepio@aol.com says...
Are You Obeying The Ten Commandments? 4-2-2007
... sez Mr. Hypocrite.
Still no converts, padre? Still can't scare 'em up? Your bit about
Sodom and Gomorrah a few weeks back didn't do the trick either.
Tough luck, that.
Regards,
Josef
Fear was the first thing on earth to make the gods.
-- Lucretius
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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| Title: Re: Are You Obeying The Ten Commandments? 4-2-2007. |
02 Apr 2007 06:58:13 PM |
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In article <1175551202.111987.302000@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
vivapadrepio@aol.com says...
Are You Obeying The Ten Commandments? 4-2-2007.
The Bible vs The Padre 4-2-2007
Romans 13: 11-14.
Romans 13:8-10
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth
another hath fulfilled the law.
For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill,
Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou
shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is
briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy
neighbour as thyself.
Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the
fulfilling of the law.
That's it, padre. Love is the fullfillment of the law. The rest of
your twaddle is irrelevant.
But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, ...
Care to give us a demo, padre?
Regards,
Josef
To love to preach is one thing; to love those to whom we preach,
quite another.
-- Richard Cecil
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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| Title: Re: Are You Obeying The Ten Commandments? 4-2-2007. |
05 Apr 2007 08:33:31 PM |
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In article <MPG.207b62a24924f48b9896cb@aioe.cjb.net>,
josef.balluch@sympatico.can says...
In article <1175551202.111987.302000@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
vivapadrepio@aol.com says...
....
But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, ...
Care to give us a demo, padre?
No response, padre?
Doesn't surprise me.
Regards,
Josef
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out
of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
-- Matthew 7:4
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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| Title: Re: Are You Obeying The Ten Commandments? 4-2-2007. |
02 Apr 2007 09:38:07 PM |
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In article <1175551202.111987.302000@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
vivapadrepio@aol.com says...
http://tinyurl.com/2wffh3
http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,467489,00.html
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=teodoroBacani_mar20_2007
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| User: "Uncle Clover" |
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| Title: Re: Are You Obeying The Ten Commandments? 4-2-2007. |
02 Apr 2007 06:28:39 PM |
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On 2 Apr 2007 15:00:02 -0700, "vivapadrepio@aol.com"
<vivapadrepio@aol.com> wrote:
But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for
the desires of the flesh.
You know, Ed Gien used to "put on" people. That happened sometime
_after_ he managed to quiet his "desires for the flesh".
Somehow, I just can't see me putting on the Lord Jesus Christ in quite
the same way - though it would certainly be interesting to try....
{;-*
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: Are You Obeying The Ten Commandments? 4-2-2007. |
02 Apr 2007 05:07:06 PM |
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On Apr 2, 3:00 pm, "vivapadre...@aol.com" <vivapadre...@aol.com>
wrote:
Romans 13: 11-14.
And do this because you know the time; it is the hour now for you to
awake from sleep. For our salvation is nearer now than when we first
believed; the night is advanced, the day is at hand. Let us then
throw off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light; let us
conduct ourselves properly as in the day, not in orgies and
drunkeness, not in promiscuity and licentiousness, not in rivalry and
jealousy.
You know, it's pretty hard to hold down a regular job or keep a
relationship together if you're engaged in all these activities you
seem to think us "sinners" are constantly engaged in. You are like
Chicken Little, calm the ***** down. We don't need your panic stricken
warnings to keep our lives together.
But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for
the desires of the flesh.
Does that sentence actually mean something?
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| User: "Mark Earnest" |
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| Title: Re: Are You Obeying The Ten Commandments? 4-2-2007. |
02 Apr 2007 05:16:00 PM |
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"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1175551626.075515.164750@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 2, 3:00 pm, "vivapadre...@aol.com" <vivapadre...@aol.com>
wrote:
Romans 13: 11-14.
And do this because you know the time; it is the hour now for you to
awake from sleep. For our salvation is nearer now than when we first
believed; the night is advanced, the day is at hand. Let us then
throw off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light; let us
conduct ourselves properly as in the day, not in orgies and
drunkeness, not in promiscuity and licentiousness, not in rivalry and
jealousy.
You know, it's pretty hard to hold down a regular job or keep a
relationship together if you're engaged in all these activities you
seem to think us "sinners" are constantly engaged in. You are like
Chicken Little, calm the ***** down. We don't need your panic stricken
warnings to keep our lives together.
But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for
the desires of the flesh.
Does that sentence actually mean something?
It means bind yourself with the I Am, and you will be all you can be.
He will do everything you do, and life will be abundant.
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