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"Ben Steinke" |
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21 Dec 2003 06:37:36 PM |
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Arguments against the existence of Hell |
If anyone here knows of any good sites and books with convincing
arguments against the concept and the existence of Hell, I would
appreciate it immensely. Thanks.
Ben
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| User: "Jeremy Martin" |
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| Title: Re: Arguments against the existence of Hell |
21 Dec 2003 07:52:30 PM |
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(bensteinke@webtv.net (Ben Steinke)):
If anyone here knows of any good sites and books with convincing
arguments against the concept and the existence of Hell, I would
appreciate it immensely. Thanks.
I have a good one: all of the same reasons that Hades isn't real.
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Jeremy Martin
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| User: "Woden" |
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| Title: Re: Arguments against the existence of Hell |
21 Dec 2003 10:40:33 PM |
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(Ben Steinke) wrote in news:26137-3FE63CD0-125
@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net:
If anyone here knows of any good sites and books with convincing
arguments against the concept and the existence of Hell, I would
appreciate it immensely. Thanks.
As if there were any convincing arguments (or any real evidence) for the
existence of Hell.
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Woden
"religion is a socio-political institution for the control of
people's thoughts, lives, and actions; based on
ancient myths and superstitions perpetrated through
generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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| User: "Adam Marczyk" |
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| Title: Re: Arguments against the existence of Hell |
22 Dec 2003 11:07:13 AM |
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Ben Steinke <bensteinke@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:26137-3FE63CD0-125@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
If anyone here knows of any good sites and books with convincing
arguments against the concept and the existence of Hell, I would
appreciate it immensely. Thanks.
It could use some revision, but:
http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/infinitepunishment.html
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"We have loved the stars too fondly | a.a. #2001
to be fearful of the night." | http://www.ebonmusings.org
--Tombstone epitaph of | e-mail: ebonmuse!hotmail.com
two amateur astronomers, | ICQ: 8777843
quoted in Carl Sagan's _Cosmos_ | PGP Key ID: 0x5C66F737
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Arguments against the existence of Hell |
26 Dec 2003 03:35:06 PM |
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:07:13 GMT, "Adam Marczyk"
<ebonmuse@deletethis.hotmail.com> wrote:
Ben Steinke <bensteinke@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:26137-3FE63CD0-125@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
If anyone here knows of any good sites and books with convincing
arguments against the concept and the existence of Hell, I would
appreciate it immensely. Thanks.
It could use some revision, but:
http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/infinitepunishment.html
A real quick review clearly shows you still don't have any knowledge of God and
what he represents. You ebonmusing is falling off the ledge it's so far off
from the truth.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Arguments against the existence of Hell |
26 Dec 2003 10:58:37 PM |
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On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 15:35:06 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> posted
to alt.atheism:
A real quick review clearly shows you still don't have any knowledge of God and
what he represents.
No need to keep telling us about yourself, Earl. We know you don't
know anything about the religion you claim to be part of.
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"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but
not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings."
-A. Einstein (1929 -- Einstein Archive 33-272)
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rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Adam Marczyk" |
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| Title: Re: Arguments against the existence of Hell |
23 Dec 2003 09:59:18 PM |
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Ben Steinke <bensteinke@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:26137-3FE63CD0-125@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
If anyone here knows of any good sites and books with convincing
arguments against the concept and the existence of Hell, I would
appreciate it immensely. Thanks.
It could use some revision, but:
http://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/infinitepunishment.html
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"We have loved the stars too fondly | a.a. #2001
to be fearful of the night." | http://www.ebonmusings.org
--Tombstone epitaph of | e-mail: ebonmuse!hotmail.com
two amateur astronomers, | ICQ: 8777843
quoted in Carl Sagan's _Cosmos_ | PGP Key ID: 0x5C66F737
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| User: "Bill, The Avender" |
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21 Dec 2003 06:54:18 PM |
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In alt.atheism on Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:37:36 -0600 (CST),
bensteinke@webtv.net (Ben Steinke) wrote:
If anyone here knows of any good sites and books with convincing
arguments against the concept and the existence of Hell, I would
appreciate it immensely. Thanks.
It's an unfalsifiable concept. You can't evidence the non-existence
of unfalsifiable concepts.
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L8r,
Bill
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The quest is never fruitless -
even when all you walk away with
are memories of the search.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Arguments against the existence of Hell |
22 Dec 2003 12:10:18 AM |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:37:36 -0600 (CST), (Ben
Steinke) posted in alt.atheism:
If anyone here knows of any good sites and books with convincing
arguments against the concept and the existence of Hell, I would
appreciate it immensely. Thanks.
Why do you need arguments against an assertion for which there's
absolutely no objective evidence?
Do you believe in Atlantis? Do you believe in Jon Carter's Mars? Do
you need arguments against them?
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"I have never imputed to Nature a purpose or a goal, or anything that could be under-
stood as anthropomorphic. What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can
comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of
humility. This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism."
- 1954 or 1955; quoted in Dukas and Hoffman _Albert Einstein the Human Side_, p. 39
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| User: "Mark Richardson" |
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| Title: Re: Arguments against the existence of Hell |
21 Dec 2003 09:06:11 PM |
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 18:37:36 -0600 (CST), (Ben
Steinke) wrote:
If anyone here knows of any good sites and books with convincing
arguments against the concept and the existence of Hell, I would
appreciate it immensely. Thanks.
Ben
You don't actually need to argue against the existence of Hell.
You can study the *Idea* of hell but you cant say anything factual
about Hell as a place.
Same goes for God - you can talk about peoples *ideas* about God but
you cant actually know or say anything at all about "God" itself.
(Actually people talk about God continuously but its just meaningless
and futile babble)
Trees, rocks and stars are different.
You can talk about both *ideas* about trees, rocks and stars and about
the things themselves.
So you can say "I think Hell is a revolting and perverse idea" and
someone else can think it would be "really cool" if it existed.
That's about it really.
Personally I think its a revolting idea and don't want to hang with
people who think the existence of Hell woul be "a good thing".
How 'bout you?
Mark.
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Mark Richardson mDOTrichardsonATutasDOTeduDOTau
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
(Sarcastic Middle aged Atheists with a Sense of Humour)
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