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"Fred Stone" |
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28 Mar 2005 04:29:33 AM |
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Armored Humvees and the Law of Unintended Consequences |
http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/20053271.asp
The U.S. Army in Iraq is faced with a dramatic growth in the number of
deaths from accidents involving Humvees ("hummers"). Last year, some 39
soldiers died in such accidents. But the rate of accidental deaths from
these accidents has doubled in the last four months. That's about five
percent of all deaths. Most of the accidents involve new hummers, the ones
with armor installed at the factory. The hummer was always considered a
safe vehicle, because it had a low center of gravity, and it’s width made
is less prone to rollovers. But now there are more rollovers, and they
appear to be caused by the increased weight of the armor, and the higher
speeds troops use to avoid, or get away from, ambushes...
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
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| Title: Re: Armored Humvees and the Law of Unintended Consequences |
29 Mar 2005 06:44:47 AM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/20053271.asp
The U.S. Army in Iraq is faced with a dramatic growth in the number
of
deaths from accidents involving Humvees ("hummers"). Last year, some
39
soldiers died in such accidents. But the rate of accidental deaths
from
these accidents has doubled in the last four months. That's about
five
percent of all deaths. Most of the accidents involve new hummers, the
ones
with armor installed at the factory. The hummer was always considered
a
safe vehicle, because it had a low center of gravity, and it's
width made
is less prone to rollovers. But now there are more rollovers, and
they
appear to be caused by the increased weight of the armor, and the
higher
speeds troops use to avoid, or get away from, ambushes...
And who's fault is that, Fraud? (Hint: "War on the cheap.")
Lebensrumsfeld should have sent them in with armoured vehicles
but didn't, expecting "they'll be met with clusters of flowers"
when they were met with cluster bombs instead.
Of course, if the US army weren't running away to avoid RPGs,
they wouldn't roll over so much....
Once again, Fraud hasn't the stones to address the facts.
("The lack of armour is the democrat's fault! Wah!!!")
Bob Dog
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Divine retribution is an idol threat.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Armored Humvees and the Law of Unintended Consequences |
29 Mar 2005 01:35:29 PM |
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wrote in
news:1112078687.367295.16230@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/20053271.asp
The U.S. Army in Iraq is faced with a dramatic growth in the number
of deaths from accidents involving Humvees ("hummers"). Last year,
some 39 soldiers died in such accidents. But the rate of accidental
deaths from these accidents has doubled in the last four months.
That's about five percent of all deaths. Most of the accidents
involve new hummers, the ones with armor installed at the factory.
The hummer was always considered a safe vehicle, because it had a low
center of gravity, and it's width made is less prone to rollovers.
But now there are more rollovers, and they appear to be caused by the
increased weight of the armor, and the higher speeds troops use to
avoid, or get away from, ambushes...
And who's fault is that, Fraud? (Hint: "War on the cheap.")
Lebensrumsfeld should have sent them in with armoured vehicles
but didn't, expecting "they'll be met with clusters of flowers"
when they were met with cluster bombs instead.
When have the "insurgents" ever used cluster bombs?
Of course, if the US army weren't running away to avoid RPGs,
they wouldn't roll over so much....
Ah, of course, stick around and "take it like a man!"
Once again, Fraud hasn't the stones to address the facts.
("The lack of armour is the democrat's fault! Wah!!!")
Where did I say that, Doggie? Gee, did you even bother to read what I
quoted, much less the whole article?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
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| User: "jwk" |
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| Title: Re: Armored Humvees and the Law of Unintended Consequences |
29 Mar 2005 01:39:25 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/20053271.asp
The U.S. Army in Iraq is faced with a dramatic growth in the number
of
deaths from accidents involving Humvees ("hummers"). Last year, some
39
soldiers died in such accidents. But the rate of accidental deaths
from
these accidents has doubled in the last four months. That's about
five
percent of all deaths. Most of the accidents involve new hummers, the
ones
with armor installed at the factory. The hummer was always considered
a
safe vehicle, because it had a low center of gravity, and it's
width made
is less prone to rollovers. But now there are more rollovers, and
they
appear to be caused by the increased weight of the armor, and the
higher
speeds troops use to avoid, or get away from, ambushes...
That's a shame but what was the point Fred? It's an engineering
problem that can probably be fixed. They probably need more weight in
the bottom, and, I'll bet, improved brakes. This sort of stuff happens
when people start messing around with auto design. Even regular auto,
after all the testing they do, have problems after a new design is
released. That's why it is smart to wait until the vehicle type has
been on the road a few years before buying one.
jwk
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Armored Humvees and the Law of Unintended Consequences |
29 Mar 2005 02:58:05 PM |
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"jwk" <jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1112103565.739724.256070@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/20053271.asp
The U.S. Army in Iraq is faced with a dramatic growth in the number
of deaths from accidents involving Humvees ("hummers"). Last year,
some 39 soldiers died in such accidents. But the rate of accidental
deaths from these accidents has doubled in the last four months.
That's about five percent of all deaths. Most of the accidents
involve new hummers, the ones with armor installed at the factory.
The hummer was always considered a safe vehicle, because it had a low
center of gravity, and it's width made is less prone to rollovers.
But now there are more rollovers, and they appear to be caused by the
increased weight of the armor, and the higher speeds troops use to
avoid, or get away from, ambushes...
That's a shame but what was the point Fred? It's an engineering
problem that can probably be fixed. They probably need more weight in
the bottom, and, I'll bet, improved brakes. This sort of stuff
happens when people start messing around with auto design.
Yeah, like a bunch of grandstanding senators who made it a political
issue.
Even
regular auto, after all the testing they do, have problems after a new
design is released. That's why it is smart to wait until the vehicle
type has been on the road a few years before buying one.
You just made my point yourself. :-)
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"You know you're over the target when you start receiving flak."
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| User: "jwk" |
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| Title: Re: Armored Humvees and the Law of Unintended Consequences |
30 Mar 2005 03:54:11 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
"jwk" <jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1112103565.739724.256070@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/20053271.asp
The U.S. Army in Iraq is faced with a dramatic growth in the
number
of deaths from accidents involving Humvees ("hummers"). Last year,
some 39 soldiers died in such accidents. But the rate of
accidental
deaths from these accidents has doubled in the last four months.
That's about five percent of all deaths. Most of the accidents
involve new hummers, the ones with armor installed at the factory.
The hummer was always considered a safe vehicle, because it had a
low
center of gravity, and it's width made is less prone to rollovers.
But now there are more rollovers, and they appear to be caused by
the
increased weight of the armor, and the higher speeds troops use to
avoid, or get away from, ambushes...
That's a shame but what was the point Fred? It's an engineering
problem that can probably be fixed. They probably need more weight
in
the bottom, and, I'll bet, improved brakes. This sort of stuff
happens when people start messing around with auto design.
Yeah, like a bunch of grandstanding senators who made it a political
issue.
Even
regular auto, after all the testing they do, have problems after a
new
design is released. That's why it is smart to wait until the
vehicle
type has been on the road a few years before buying one.
You just made my point yourself. :-)
I made *a point. I'm still unsure why *you brought the whole thing up.
jwk
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: Armored Humvees and the Law of Unintended Consequences |
29 Mar 2005 12:40:51 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 04:29:33 +0000, Fred Stone wrote:
http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/20053271.asp
The U.S. Army in Iraq is faced with a dramatic growth in the number of
deaths from accidents involving Humvees ("hummers"). Last year, some 39
soldiers died in such accidents. But the rate of accidental deaths from
these accidents has doubled in the last four months. That's about five
percent of all deaths. Most of the accidents involve new hummers, the ones
with armor installed at the factory. The hummer was always considered a
safe vehicle, because it had a low center of gravity, and it’s width made
is less prone to rollovers. But now there are more rollovers, and they
appear to be caused by the increased weight of the armor, and the higher
speeds troops use to avoid, or get away from, ambushes...
Another example of the Universal Law: "Everything has a price."
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MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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