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"J Young" |
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17 Feb 2005 11:36:56 PM |
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Army Files Cite Abuse of Afghans |
How soon before the LLL is out crying crocodile tears for those "poor
Afghani's". After 9/11, we had the right to use any means necessary to
fight Al queda and their hosts, the Taliban.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33178-2005Feb17.html
Army Files Cite Abuse of Afghans
Special Forces Unit Prompted Senior Officers' Complaints
Members of an Army Special Forces unit allegedly punched, slapped,
kicked and beat Afghan civilians in two villages southeast of the
capital of Kabul last May, prompting official complaints from two
senior Army psychological operations officers who were present and said
they witnessed the incidents.
The allegation is detailed in internal Army criminal files, released
yesterday, that also document other allegations of abuse in Afghanistan
as recent as last year. Previous abuse allegations have mostly
concerned U.S. military activities in Iraq in 2003; these documents
detail parallel conduct in Afghanistan in 2004.
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| User: "Clave" |
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| Title: Re: Army Files Cite Abuse of Afghans |
17 Feb 2005 11:53:39 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1108705016.954903.197830@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
How soon before the LLL is out crying crocodile tears for those "poor
Afghani's". After 9/11, we had the right to use any means necessary to
fight Al queda and their hosts, the Taliban.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33178-2005Feb17.html
Army Files Cite Abuse of Afghans
Special Forces Unit Prompted Senior Officers' Complaints
Members of an Army Special Forces unit allegedly punched, slapped,
kicked and beat Afghan civilians in two villages southeast of the
capital of Kabul last May, prompting official complaints from two
senior Army psychological operations officers who were present and said
they witnessed the incidents.
You don't read well at all. The very passage you quote says "civilians," not
"al Qaeda" or "Taliban."
Jim
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| User: "SMITH29" |
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| Title: Re: Army Files Cite Abuse of Afghans |
18 Feb 2005 12:49:47 AM |
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Clave wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1108705016.954903.197830@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
How soon before the LLL is out crying crocodile tears for those "poor
Afghani's". After 9/11, we had the right to use any means necessary to
fight Al queda and their hosts, the Taliban.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33178-2005Feb17.html
Army Files Cite Abuse of Afghans
Special Forces Unit Prompted Senior Officers' Complaints
Members of an Army Special Forces unit allegedly punched, slapped,
kicked and beat Afghan civilians in two villages southeast of the
capital of Kabul last May, prompting official complaints from two
senior Army psychological operations officers who were present and said
they witnessed the incidents.
You don't read well at all. The very passage you quote says "civilians," not
"al Qaeda" or "Taliban."
Jim
xxxx
When a terrorist has his mask off he's just another citizen.
You will have a problem with that I'm sure because no military experience and yer a wuss as well.
YERPAL'
THE29
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| User: "Eudaemonic Plague" |
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| Title: Re: Army Files Cite Abuse of Afghans |
18 Feb 2005 02:08:32 PM |
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"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1108709394.5f20280af63e0e419f2dcd729b02807d@teranews...
: Clave wrote:
[snip]
: > You don't read well at all. The very passage you quote says
"civilians," not
: > "al Qaeda" or "Taliban."
: >
: > Jim
: >
: xxxx
: When a terrorist has his mask off he's just another citizen.
: You will have a problem with that I'm sure because no military
experience and yer a wuss as well.
Well, I guess you must be a terrorist, then. If you have military
experience, it was Army, in the stockade, without a doubt.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Army Files Cite Abuse of Afghans |
18 Feb 2005 03:12:20 PM |
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:08:32 -0600, "Eudaemonic Plague"
<ghod@ameritech.net> wrote:
"SMITH29" <smith29@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:1108709394.5f20280af63e0e419f2dcd729b02807d@teranews...
: Clave wrote:
[snip]
: > You don't read well at all. The very passage you quote says
"civilians," not
: > "al Qaeda" or "Taliban."
: >
: > Jim
: >
: xxxx
: When a terrorist has his mask off he's just another citizen.
: You will have a problem with that I'm sure because no military
experience and yer a wuss as well.
Well, I guess you must be a terrorist, then. If you have military
experience, it was Army, in the stockade, without a doubt.
No his was flying around safely in the reserves in the back of a plane
looking for subs. Let him tell you all about the real world of face
to face combat. Yeah right.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Army Files Cite Abuse of Afghans |
18 Feb 2005 03:17:02 PM |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:49:47 -0800, SMITH29 <smith29@comcast.net>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
When a terrorist has his mask off he's just another citizen.
You will have a problem with that I'm sure because no military experience and yer a wuss as well.
I'm a 12 year veteran, former Airborne Ranger. If you want to call me
a wuss, I suggest you get on a plane to San Jose and do it to my face.
No, abusing civilians does nothing more than drive up the enemy's
rolls. Treating locals with kindness and dignity, especially in the
wake of a group like the Taliban, is the way to gain allies.
In Vietnam, one of the best programs for fighting the Viet Cong was SF
providing aid to locals like the Hmong and Montenards. Green Berets
helped build damsn, provided medical aid, and never even asked about
the VC. In time, the locals began volunteering to aid the Americans,
since all the VC did was steal supplies and make threats.
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "SMITH29" |
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| Title: Re: Army Files Cite Abuse of Afghans |
19 Feb 2005 12:16:40 AM |
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Douglas Berry wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:49:47 -0800, SMITH29 <smith29@comcast.net>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
When a terrorist has his mask off he's just another citizen.
You will have a problem with that I'm sure because no military experience and yer a wuss as well.
I'm a 12 year veteran, former Airborne Ranger. If you want to call me
a wuss, I suggest you get on a plane to San Jose and do it to my face.
No, abusing civilians does nothing more than drive up the enemy's
rolls. Treating locals with kindness and dignity, especially in the
wake of a group like the Taliban, is the way to gain allies.
In Vietnam, one of the best programs for fighting the Viet Cong was SF
providing aid to locals like the Hmong and Montenards. Green Berets
helped build damsn, provided medical aid, and never even asked about
the VC. In time, the locals began volunteering to aid the Americans,
since all the VC did was steal supplies and make threats.
xxxx
This message wasn't meant for you. It was meant for Clave who I believe to be a WUSS.
Thank You for serving our country!
THE29
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| User: "Tim Crowley" |
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| Title: Re: Army Files Cite Abuse of Afghans |
18 Feb 2005 04:23:20 PM |
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SMITH29 wrote:
Clave wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1108705016.954903.197830@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
How soon before the LLL is out crying crocodile tears for those
"poor
Afghani's". After 9/11, we had the right to use any means necessary
to
fight Al queda and their hosts, the Taliban.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33178-2005Feb17.html
Army Files Cite Abuse of Afghans
Special Forces Unit Prompted Senior Officers' Complaints
Members of an Army Special Forces unit allegedly punched, slapped,
kicked and beat Afghan civilians in two villages southeast of the
capital of Kabul last May, prompting official complaints from two
senior Army psychological operations officers who were present and
said
they witnessed the incidents.
You don't read well at all. The very passage you quote says
"civilians," not
"al Qaeda" or "Taliban."
Jim
xxxx
When a terrorist has his mask off he's just another citizen.
You would know. You support over and over again the same things
terrorists do. Your political world view is much closer to the Taliban
than anything else.
You will have a problem with that I'm sure because no military
experience and yer a wuss as well.
Thar ya go.
YERPAL'
THE29
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| User: "SMITH29" |
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| Title: Re: Army Files Cite Abuse of Afghans |
19 Feb 2005 12:28:27 AM |
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Tim Crowley wrote:
SMITH29 wrote:
Clave wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1108705016.954903.197830@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
How soon before the LLL is out crying crocodile tears for those
"poor
Afghani's". After 9/11, we had the right to use any means necessary
to
fight Al queda and their hosts, the Taliban.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33178-2005Feb17.html
Army Files Cite Abuse of Afghans
Special Forces Unit Prompted Senior Officers' Complaints
Members of an Army Special Forces unit allegedly punched, slapped,
kicked and beat Afghan civilians in two villages southeast of the
capital of Kabul last May, prompting official complaints from two
senior Army psychological operations officers who were present and
said
they witnessed the incidents.
You don't read well at all. The very passage you quote says
"civilians," not
"al Qaeda" or "Taliban."
Jim
xxxx
When a terrorist has his mask off he's just another citizen.
You would know.
xxxx
Your antagonism is showing.
You support over and over again the same things
terrorists do.
xxxx
Prove it.
Your political world view is much closer to the Taliban
than anything else.
xxxx
Again, prove your accusations.
You will have a problem with that I'm sure because no military
experience and yer a wuss as well.
Thar ya go.
xxxx
So you agree ?
YERPAL'
THE29
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| User: "The Real Riain" |
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| Title: Re: Army Files Cite Abuse of Afghans |
18 Feb 2005 04:15:18 AM |
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IT was us, the LLL, that voted for the War on Terror! We also were the
one's who supported the invasion of Afghanistan, and said "stay the
course".
It was the Right-Wing Fascist NAZIS like you who decided to declare war
on Iraq, and removed needed troops in Afghanistan to Iraq and forget all
about the war on terrorism, so that Dubya could get revenge on Saddam!
WHAT AN IDIOT YOU ARE!
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1108705016.954903.197830@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
: How soon before the LLL is out crying crocodile tears for those "poor
: Afghani's". After 9/11, we had the right to use any means necessary to
: fight Al queda and their hosts, the Taliban.
:
: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33178-2005Feb17.html
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: Army Files Cite Abuse of Afghans
: Special Forces Unit Prompted Senior Officers' Complaints
:
: Members of an Army Special Forces unit allegedly punched, slapped,
: kicked and beat Afghan civilians in two villages southeast of the
: capital of Kabul last May, prompting official complaints from two
: senior Army psychological operations officers who were present and
said
: they witnessed the incidents.
:
: The allegation is detailed in internal Army criminal files, released
: yesterday, that also document other allegations of abuse in
Afghanistan
: as recent as last year. Previous abuse allegations have mostly
: concerned U.S. military activities in Iraq in 2003; these documents
: detail parallel conduct in Afghanistan in 2004.
:
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Army Files Cite Abuse of Afghans |
18 Feb 2005 07:01:05 AM |
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In our last episode
<1108705016.954903.197830@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, J Young lumbered
into the room and mumbled:
How soon before the LLL is out crying crocodile tears for those "poor
Afghani's". After 9/11, we had the right to use any means necessary to
fight Al queda and their hosts, the Taliban.
Funny thing. The terrorists also claim they have the "right to use any
means necessary."
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Army Files Cite Abuse of Afghans |
18 Feb 2005 11:01:38 AM |
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 07:01:05 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In our last episode
<1108705016.954903.197830@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, J Young lumbered
into the room and mumbled:
How soon before the LLL is out crying crocodile tears for those "poor
Afghani's". After 9/11, we had the right to use any means necessary to
fight Al queda and their hosts, the Taliban.
Funny thing. The terrorists also claim they have the "right to use any
means necessary."
And once again we become our enemy and adopt their values to
supposedly defend ours.
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| User: "Eudaemonic Plague" |
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| Title: Re: Army Files Cite Abuse of Afghans |
18 Feb 2005 02:10:08 PM |
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<retrogrouch@comcast.net> wrote in message
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: On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 07:01:05 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
: <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
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: >In our last episode
: ><1108705016.954903.197830@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, J Young
lumbered
: >into the room and mumbled:
: >
: >> How soon before the LLL is out crying crocodile tears for those
"poor
: >> Afghani's". After 9/11, we had the right to use any means
necessary to
: >> fight Al queda and their hosts, the Taliban.
: >
: >Funny thing. The terrorists also claim they have the "right to use
any
: >means necessary."
:
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: And once again we become our enemy and adopt their values to
: supposedly defend ours.
Is that you, Pogo?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Army Files Cite Abuse of Afghans |
18 Feb 2005 03:13:33 PM |
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:10:08 -0600, "Eudaemonic Plague"
<ghod@ameritech.net> wrote:
: And once again we become our enemy and adopt their values to
: supposedly defend ours.
Is that you, Pogo?
Yeah, but this is one tuff enemy. It makes Iraq look like a picnic.
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| User: "Sangfroid" |
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| Title: Re: Army Files Cite Abuse of Afghans |
19 Feb 2005 01:45:08 PM |
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<retrogrouch@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:10:08 -0600, "Eudaemonic Plague"
<ghod@ameritech.net> wrote:
: And once again we become our enemy and adopt their values to
: supposedly defend ours.
it's that whole staring into the abyss thang
if there ever was an abyss to reckon with, it's the one that harbors
islamofascists
whit
Is that you, Pogo?
Yeah, but this is one tuff enemy. It makes Iraq look like a picnic.
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