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User: "johac"
Date: 01 Jul 2005 02:01:17 AM
Object: Army recruits shortfall blamed on Iraq war critic...
IOW, those who tell the truth about the bloody messy quagmire in Iraq.
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Army recruits shortfall blamed on Iraq war critics
By Vicki AllenThu Jun 30, 5:17 PM ET
Several Senate Republicans denounced other lawmakers and the news media
on Thursday for unfavorable depictions of the Iraq war and the Pentagon
urged members of Congress to talk up military service to help ease a
recruiting shortfall.
Families are discouraging young men and women from enlisting "because of
all the negative media that's out there," Sen. James Inhofe (news, bio,
voting record), an Oklahoma Republican, said at a U.S. Senate Armed
Services Committee hearing.
Inhofe also said that other senators' criticism of the war contributed
to the propaganda of U.S. enemies. He did not name the senators.
Army Chief of Staff Peter Schoomaker urged members of Congress to use
"your considerable influence to explain to the American people and to
those that are influencers out there how important it is for our young
people to serve this nation at a time like this."
The Army on Wednesday said it was 14 percent, or about 7,800 recruits,
behind its year-to-date recruitment target even though it exceeded its
monthly target in June. With extended deployments in Iraq and
Afghanistan, recruiting also is down for the National Guard and the
Reserves.
"With the deluge of negative news that we get daily, it's just amazing
to me that anybody would want to sign up," said Sen. Pat Roberts (news,
bio, voting record), a Kansas Republican.
Facing flagging support for the Iraq war that has killed about 1,750
U.S. forces, President Bush in a speech on Tuesday acknowledged the
nation's doubts about the strategy but insisted the operation was
worthwhile and portrayed Iraq as a key battlefield against terrorists.
Bush himself made a pitch for military service. "We live in freedom
because every generation has produced patriots willing to serve a cause
greater than themselves. Those who serve today are taking their rightful
place among the greatest generations that have worn our nation's
uniform," he said.
While Bush has rejected calls for a timetable to withdraw U.S. troops
from Iraq, Virginia Republican Sen. John Warner (news, bio, voting
record), the committee chairman, pressed the Pentagon to declassify
information on progress of training Iraq's forces, considered a key
indicator of when U.S. forces can return home.
"The American taxpayer put a tremendous investment in that retraining
and the equipping," Warner said. With that information, he said, "We can
better translate where we are in terms of hopefully providing them
(Iraqis) with trained individuals and equipment to eventually replace
our forces."
Democrats questioned the Pentagon officials on how the Iraq war has
strained the military's readiness for other potential conflicts and on
delays in providing troops with adequate armor against car bombs and
other explosives.
Sen. Edward Kennedy (news, bio, voting record), a Massachusetts
Democrat, said while Bush urged Americans "to raise flags" in honor of
U.S. troops in Iraq, the president did not assure troops "they will have
the equipment they need to fight the war, and he should have."
Schoomaker acknowledged up to 25 percent of the Humvees in Iraq still
had the low grade of protective armor, but he said all should be
equipped with higher grade armor in September.
He also agreed that in some cases the level of readiness of units was
below desired levels because of the strain of the Iraq conflict and the
Army's efforts to streamline its operations.
In his testimony, Marine Corps Commandant Gen. Michael Hagee said
readiness for battalion and squadron-sized Marine units had dropped by
40 percent because of the priority put on sustaining units in Iraq at
the expense of the units that had rotated out of the war.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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User: "Fester"

Title: Re: Army recruits shortfall blamed on Iraq war critic... 01 Jul 2005 04:21:53 PM
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-9E9A24.00011701072005@news.giganews.com...

IOW, those who tell the truth about the bloody messy quagmire in Iraq.


--
Army recruits shortfall blamed on Iraq war critics

By Vicki AllenThu Jun 30, 5:17 PM ET

Several Senate Republicans denounced other lawmakers and the news media
on Thursday for unfavorable depictions of the Iraq war and the Pentagon
urged members of Congress to talk up military service to help ease a
recruiting shortfall.

Families are discouraging young men and women from enlisting "because of
all the negative media that's out there," Sen. James Inhofe (news, bio,
voting record), an Oklahoma Republican, said at a U.S. Senate Armed
Services Committee hearing.

Inhofe also said that other senators' criticism of the war contributed
to the propaganda of U.S. enemies. He did not name the senators.

Army Chief of Staff Peter Schoomaker urged members of Congress to use
"your considerable influence to explain to the American people and to
those that are influencers out there how important it is for our young
people to serve this nation at a time like this."

The Army on Wednesday said it was 14 percent, or about 7,800 recruits,
behind its year-to-date recruitment target even though it exceeded its
monthly target in June. With extended deployments in Iraq and
Afghanistan, recruiting also is down for the National Guard and the
Reserves.

"With the deluge of negative news that we get daily, it's just amazing
to me that anybody would want to sign up," said Sen. Pat Roberts (news,
bio, voting record), a Kansas Republican.

Facing flagging support for the Iraq war that has killed about 1,750
U.S. forces, President Bush in a speech on Tuesday acknowledged the
nation's doubts about the strategy but insisted the operation was
worthwhile and portrayed Iraq as a key battlefield against terrorists.

Bush himself made a pitch for military service. "We live in freedom
because every generation has produced patriots willing to serve a cause
greater than themselves. Those who serve today are taking their rightful
place among the greatest generations that have worn our nation's
uniform," he said.

While Bush has rejected calls for a timetable to withdraw U.S. troops
from Iraq, Virginia Republican Sen. John Warner (news, bio, voting
record), the committee chairman, pressed the Pentagon to declassify
information on progress of training Iraq's forces, considered a key
indicator of when U.S. forces can return home.

"The American taxpayer put a tremendous investment in that retraining
and the equipping," Warner said. With that information, he said, "We can
better translate where we are in terms of hopefully providing them
(Iraqis) with trained individuals and equipment to eventually replace
our forces."

Democrats questioned the Pentagon officials on how the Iraq war has
strained the military's readiness for other potential conflicts and on
delays in providing troops with adequate armor against car bombs and
other explosives.

Sen. Edward Kennedy (news, bio, voting record), a Massachusetts
Democrat, said while Bush urged Americans "to raise flags" in honor of
U.S. troops in Iraq, the president did not assure troops "they will have
the equipment they need to fight the war, and he should have."

Schoomaker acknowledged up to 25 percent of the Humvees in Iraq still
had the low grade of protective armor, but he said all should be
equipped with higher grade armor in September.

He also agreed that in some cases the level of readiness of units was
below desired levels because of the strain of the Iraq conflict and the
Army's efforts to streamline its operations.

In his testimony, Marine Corps Commandant Gen. Michael Hagee said
readiness for battalion and squadron-sized Marine units had dropped by
40 percent because of the priority put on sustaining units in Iraq at
the expense of the units that had rotated out of the war.

A lot of hot air. The fact is that thanks to Bush's tax cuts, ou reconomy
is growing and unemployment has fallen rapidly (not to mention the budget
deficit shrinking as well). It's simply supply and demand, with the
military having to compete in an ever shrinking labor market for quality
recruits.
.
User: "John Popelish"

Title: Re: Army recruits shortfall blamed on Iraq war critic... 01 Jul 2005 05:42:27 PM
Fester wrote:

A lot of hot air. The fact is that thanks to Bush's tax cuts, ou reconomy
is growing and unemployment has fallen rapidly (not to mention the budget
deficit shrinking as well). It's simply supply and demand, with the
military having to compete in an ever shrinking labor market for quality
recruits.

I knew this cartoon reminded me of somebody:
http://www.ucomics.com/rallcom/2005/06/16/
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Army recruits shortfall blamed on Iraq war critic... 07 Jul 2005 02:14:29 AM
On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 18:42:27 -0400, John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net>
wrote:

Fester wrote:

A lot of hot air. The fact is that thanks to Bush's tax cuts, ou reconomy
is growing and unemployment has fallen rapidly (not to mention the budget
deficit shrinking as well). It's simply supply and demand, with the
military having to compete in an ever shrinking labor market for quality
recruits.


I knew this cartoon reminded me of somebody:
http://www.ucomics.com/rallcom/2005/06/16/

That's Fester and Fred-fuckwit trolls.
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represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
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User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass"

Title: Re: Army recruits shortfall blamed on Iraq war critic... 01 Jul 2005 02:52:19 AM
On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 00:01:17 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:

IOW, those who tell the truth about the bloody messy quagmire in Iraq.

And how many of Inhofe's kids and grandkidsdo do you think are in the
Army?


--
Army recruits shortfall blamed on Iraq war critics

By Vicki AllenThu Jun 30, 5:17 PM ET

Several Senate Republicans denounced other lawmakers and the news media
on Thursday for unfavorable depictions of the Iraq war and the Pentagon
urged members of Congress to talk up military service to help ease a
recruiting shortfall.

Families are discouraging young men and women from enlisting "because of
all the negative media that's out there," Sen. James Inhofe (news, bio,
voting record), an Oklahoma Republican, said at a U.S. Senate Armed
Services Committee hearing.

Inhofe also said that other senators' criticism of the war contributed
to the propaganda of U.S. enemies. He did not name the senators.

Army Chief of Staff Peter Schoomaker urged members of Congress to use
"your considerable influence to explain to the American people and to
those that are influencers out there how important it is for our young
people to serve this nation at a time like this."

The Army on Wednesday said it was 14 percent, or about 7,800 recruits,
behind its year-to-date recruitment target even though it exceeded its
monthly target in June. With extended deployments in Iraq and
Afghanistan, recruiting also is down for the National Guard and the
Reserves.

"With the deluge of negative news that we get daily, it's just amazing
to me that anybody would want to sign up," said Sen. Pat Roberts (news,
bio, voting record), a Kansas Republican.

Facing flagging support for the Iraq war that has killed about 1,750
U.S. forces, President Bush in a speech on Tuesday acknowledged the
nation's doubts about the strategy but insisted the operation was
worthwhile and portrayed Iraq as a key battlefield against terrorists.

Bush himself made a pitch for military service. "We live in freedom
because every generation has produced patriots willing to serve a cause
greater than themselves. Those who serve today are taking their rightful
place among the greatest generations that have worn our nation's
uniform," he said.

While Bush has rejected calls for a timetable to withdraw U.S. troops
from Iraq, Virginia Republican Sen. John Warner (news, bio, voting
record), the committee chairman, pressed the Pentagon to declassify
information on progress of training Iraq's forces, considered a key
indicator of when U.S. forces can return home.

"The American taxpayer put a tremendous investment in that retraining
and the equipping," Warner said. With that information, he said, "We can
better translate where we are in terms of hopefully providing them
(Iraqis) with trained individuals and equipment to eventually replace
our forces."

Democrats questioned the Pentagon officials on how the Iraq war has
strained the military's readiness for other potential conflicts and on
delays in providing troops with adequate armor against car bombs and
other explosives.

Sen. Edward Kennedy (news, bio, voting record), a Massachusetts
Democrat, said while Bush urged Americans "to raise flags" in honor of
U.S. troops in Iraq, the president did not assure troops "they will have
the equipment they need to fight the war, and he should have."

Schoomaker acknowledged up to 25 percent of the Humvees in Iraq still
had the low grade of protective armor, but he said all should be
equipped with higher grade armor in September.

He also agreed that in some cases the level of readiness of units was
below desired levels because of the strain of the Iraq conflict and the
Army's efforts to streamline its operations.

In his testimony, Marine Corps Commandant Gen. Michael Hagee said
readiness for battalion and squadron-sized Marine units had dropped by
40 percent because of the priority put on sustaining units in Iraq at
the expense of the units that had rotated out of the war.

---
http://tinyurl.com/dbgyb

-----
Yang
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a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka
aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1743 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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User: "johac"

Title: Re: Army recruits shortfall blamed on Iraq war critic... 02 Jul 2005 01:39:23 AM
In article <dgt9c1hsn18l48envafii6kq7nbilcgp9t@4ax.com>,
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 00:01:17 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:

IOW, those who tell the truth about the bloody messy quagmire in Iraq.


And how many of Inhofe's kids and grandkidsdo do you think are in the
Army?

Probably between zero and none.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
.


User: "RobH"

Title: Re: Army recruits shortfall blamed on Iraq war critic... 01 Jul 2005 09:50:14 AM
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in news:jhachm-9E9A24.00011701072005
@news.giganews.com:

IOW, those who tell the truth about the bloody messy quagmire in Iraq.


--
Army recruits shortfall blamed on Iraq war critics

By Vicki AllenThu Jun 30, 5:17 PM ET

Several Senate Republicans denounced other lawmakers and the news media
on Thursday for unfavorable depictions of the Iraq war and the Pentagon
urged members of Congress to talk up military service to help ease a
recruiting shortfall.

Families are discouraging young men and women from enlisting "because of
all the negative media that's out there," Sen. James Inhofe (news, bio,
voting record), an Oklahoma Republican, said at a U.S. Senate Armed
Services Committee hearing.

Inhofe also said that other senators' criticism of the war contributed
to the propaganda of U.S. enemies. He did not name the senators.

There are a lot of poor senators in the senate but in my opinion Senator
James Inhofe is absolutely the worst. He makes decisions based on biblical
scripture, calls global warming the "greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the
American people", campaigned for office on his love for god, guns, and his
hatred of gays, Inhofe argued that the U.S. should ally itself
unconditionally with Israel "because God said so." Quoting the Bible as the
divine Word of God, Inhofe cited Genesis 13:14-17 -- "for all the land
which you see, to you will I give it, and to your seed forever" -- as
justification for permanent Israeli occupation of the West Bank and for
escalating aggression against the Palestinians.
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Army recruits shortfall blamed on Iraq war critic... 02 Jul 2005 01:38:21 AM
In article <Xns968664276B2AFu8k590t@24.93.43.119>, RobH <Rob@aol.com>
wrote:

johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in news:jhachm-9E9A24.00011701072005
@news.giganews.com:

IOW, those who tell the truth about the bloody messy quagmire in Iraq.


--
Army recruits shortfall blamed on Iraq war critics

By Vicki AllenThu Jun 30, 5:17 PM ET

Several Senate Republicans denounced other lawmakers and the news media
on Thursday for unfavorable depictions of the Iraq war and the Pentagon
urged members of Congress to talk up military service to help ease a
recruiting shortfall.

Families are discouraging young men and women from enlisting "because of
all the negative media that's out there," Sen. James Inhofe (news, bio,
voting record), an Oklahoma Republican, said at a U.S. Senate Armed
Services Committee hearing.

Inhofe also said that other senators' criticism of the war contributed
to the propaganda of U.S. enemies. He did not name the senators.


There are a lot of poor senators in the senate but in my opinion Senator
James Inhofe is absolutely the worst. He makes decisions based on biblical
scripture, calls global warming the "greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the
American people", campaigned for office on his love for god, guns, and his
hatred of gays, Inhofe argued that the U.S. should ally itself
unconditionally with Israel "because God said so." Quoting the Bible as the
divine Word of God, Inhofe cited Genesis 13:14-17 -- "for all the land
which you see, to you will I give it, and to your seed forever" -- as
justification for permanent Israeli occupation of the West Bank and for
escalating aggression against the Palestinians.

Every year, Imhofe is the favorite to win the Senate's South end of a
horse headed North award. He is an idiot.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
.


User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Army recruits shortfall blamed on Iraq war critic... 01 Jul 2005 08:04:54 AM
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in news:jhachm-9E9A24.00011701072005
@news.giganews.com:

IOW, those who tell the truth about the bloody messy quagmire in Iraq.

O'Brien would be proud of you.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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