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"Brian Westley" |
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28 Aug 2003 12:30:40 PM |
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Arnold Schwarzenegger wants school prayer |
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/08/28/state0415EDT0020.DTL
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PRAYER IN SCHOOLS
* "I believe in prayer in school and I think it should be up to the
schools, you know, what religion they belong and what direction they
want to go," he said.
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Merlyn LeRoy
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| User: "shund" |
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| Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger wants school prayer |
28 Aug 2003 02:30:31 PM |
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"Brian Westley" <westley@visi.com> wrote in message
news:3f4e3c40$0$162$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/08/28/state04
15EDT0020.DTL
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PRAYER IN SCHOOLS
* "I believe in prayer in school and I think it should be up to the
schools, you know, what religion they belong and what direction they
want to go," he said.
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Merlyn LeRoy
It's Arnold Schwarzenegger......nuff said.
California politics = LOL
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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| Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger wants school prayer |
28 Aug 2003 02:33:44 PM |
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* "I believe in prayer in school and I think it should be up to the
schools, you know, what religion they belong and what direction they
want to go," he said.
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Merlyn LeRoy
It's Arnold Schwarzenegger......nuff said.
California politics = LOL
I think Arnold really needs to be a lot more specific. If he's talking about
silent, voluntary, individual prayer then no one is going to have a problem. If
he's talking about open, mandatory group prayer mandated by the government then
he has a very serious ethical problem.
Increasing the power of government is certainly NOT a conservative principle.
Someone should remind him of that.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Ill-Legal Dept. "Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter Here"
"My country, right or wrong; to be defended when right and righted when wrong."
- Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "shund" |
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| Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger wants school prayer |
29 Aug 2003 06:41:14 AM |
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"Lord Calvert" <forlornh@aol.commode> wrote in message
news:20030828153344.03375.00000138@mb-m11.aol.com...
* "I believe in prayer in school and I think it should be up to the
schools, you know, what religion they belong and what direction they
want to go," he said.
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Merlyn LeRoy
It's Arnold Schwarzenegger......nuff said.
California politics = LOL
I think Arnold really needs to be a lot more specific. If he's talking
about
silent, voluntary, individual prayer then no one is going to have a
problem. If
he's talking about open, mandatory group prayer mandated by the government
then
he has a very serious ethical problem.
Increasing the power of government is certainly NOT a conservative
principle.
Someone should remind him of that.
The context in which he used the phrase "prayer in school" really seems to
lean towards the school-sanctioned variety. The way he uses "it should be up
to the schools.....what religion they belong and what direction they want to
go" gives away his opinion that the school should decide what kind of prayer
goes on....as if a primarily-Christian school would have the option of
sanctioning a Christian prayer.
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| User: "Cyberia" |
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| Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger wants school prayer |
29 Aug 2003 07:25:01 PM |
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shund wrote:
The context in which he used the phrase "prayer in school" really
seems to lean towards the school-sanctioned variety. The way he uses
"it should be up to the schools.....what religion they belong and
what direction they want to go" gives away his opinion that the
school should decide what kind of prayer goes on....as if a
primarily-Christian school would have the option of sanctioning a
Christian prayer.
Agreed. I read it the same way. He must have been talking about parochial
schools. The problem there is that they also receive tax monies. If you
allow them to discriminate WRT their religious preference, they should
forfeit their tax allotment.
I went to a Catholic high school (oddly enough), and because of the tax
situation, there was no *requirement* to participate in prayer there but it
was openly practiced, officially endorsed, and Christian. I was considered
Catholic then, and ironically the excellent education I received was the
very seed of my religious undoing. Praise the IPU (PBUHHH) !!
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| User: "Born Again Atheist" |
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| Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger wants school prayer |
28 Aug 2003 09:53:31 PM |
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Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in message news:<3f4e3c40$0$162$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com>...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/08/28/state0415EDT0020.DTL
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PRAYER IN SCHOOLS
* "I believe in prayer in school and I think it should be up to the
schools, you know, what religion they belong and what direction they
want to go," he said.
So , really, which direction should a public school go?
Here is a suggestion:
We take 5 steps to the right because we have 800 Hindus attending the
school
We descend by 60 steps where it becomes a bit hotter b/c we have 300
Jews
We climb 10,000 steps up the ladder but fall because the ladder turned
out to be too short to account for all the Christians.
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| User: "Ghost Rider" |
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| Title: Re: Arnold Schwarzenegger wants school prayer |
28 Aug 2003 01:10:38 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, Brian Westley fired a few neurons and wrote:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/08/28/sta
te0415EDT0020.DTL ...
PRAYER IN SCHOOLS
* "I believe in prayer in school and I think it should be up to the
schools, you know, what religion they belong and what direction they
want to go," he said.
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Merlyn LeRoy
Which works fine for a little backwater protestant town in a rural area,
population 1500. I'm surprised he doesn't understand the melting-pot
situation in large cities like Los Angeles, or Sacramento, where it is
quite common for there to be a representation of Jewish, Muslim and Hindu
children, not to mention an atheist or two.
Shame on you, Arnold. There goes my vote.
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Ghost Rider
aa # 2011
EAC Nonexistent Director of Alcohol, Tobacco and Bad Puns
~ Plonked by Kadaitcha Man
"Don't be afraid, man is man-made."
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