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Art Bulla Murderer? Mormons Blood Atonement |
Art you ever kill anyone? You claim to believe in the Blood
Atonement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvaGLT-_GhY
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"john p" wrote:
Art you ever kill anyone?
34 Wo unto the liar, for he shall be thrust down to hell.
(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 9:34)
Art Bulla, Messiah to the House of Joseph, even Ephraim and Manasseh:
Mr. Ogden Kraut, Aug. 24, 1981
Dear Ogden,
....
I hold the keys, and get over it O ye disputors, if ye can. The Lord has
also directed that the valleys [of Utah] are no longer a haven from
persecution as they were intended to be for the people who were gathered
here, they have already fulfilled that function. They will now on the
contrary fulfill a different function for the generation now inhabiting
them, that of their destruction. For the generation now inhabiting these
valleys are of quite a different character than those poor Saints fleeing
persecution from their enemies. Hence what was a blessing to one generation,
the Lord turns into a cursing unto another, for he reserves unto himself the
right to do just as he pleases in this regard, ... For all those who are
pure in heart are to be gathered out of these mountains [of Utah], and those
who will not hear shall be destroyed by earthquake in that day. I refer you
to the Revelations (Section 31) which I received in February, 1979, for
which thing my hometeacher [Randy Olson, to whom Art Bulla tried to read the
revelation, by the Lord's commandment] in the Mormon Church tried to kill
me, in which the Lord said, "All your tall buildings will I cause that they
shall tumble to the ground, and the mountains which ye are so fond of, shall
become your enemies . . . that the abominations of this people be covered .
.. ."
~~Teachings of the One Mighty and Strong, pgs. 43,56
1 And it came to pass, Joseph was in the desert seeking his brethren and
they seized upon him, and mocked him, saying: behold, our prince is come
unto us. Mayest thou live long, and may thy kingdom be forever!
2 And they worshipped him in mocking fashion, saying, have mercy on us
O king! Save us, O mighty one!
3 And they seized upon Joseph to kill him. And Dan drew his sword and
thrust it into the side of Joseph, howbeit it pierced not his flesh.
4 And all who stood by were astonished. And Reuben said, Verily, the Lord
hath surely chosen him, and the power of the Most High dwelleth with him.
5 Suffer not our hands to shed his blood, for his blood should surely cry
up to the Lord against us, and great would be the curse against our children
unto seven generations.
6 Yea, rather, let us cast him into a pit wherein he may perish for lack
of meat or may be eaten by wild beasts, and thus shall our hands be free of
his blood. And so they seized the tunic which Jacob had made for Joseph and
cast Joseph into a pit naked for to die.
Book of Joseph 5:1-6
(Re-delivered in 1842, through Joseph Smith the Seer)
14 Now, I say unto you, and what I say unto you, I say unto all the Twelve:
Arise and gird up your loins, take up your cross, follow me, and feed my
sheep.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 112:14)
4 The Lord GOD hath given me the tongue of the learned, that I should know
how to speak a word in season to [him that is] weary: he wakeneth morning by
morning, he wakeneth mine ear to hear as the learned.
5 ¶ The Lord GOD hath opened mine ear, and I was not rebellious, neither
turned away back.
6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the
hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.
7 ¶ For the Lord GOD will help me; therefore shall I not be confounded:
therefore have I set my face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be
ashamed.
8 [He is] near that justifieth me; who will contend with me? let us stand
together: who [is] mine adversary? let him come near to me.
9 Behold, the Lord GOD will help me; who [is] he [that] shall condemn me?
lo, they all shall wax old as a garment; the moth shall eat them up.
10 ¶ Who [is] among you that feareth the LORD, that obeyeth the voice of his
servant, that walketh [in] darkness, and hath no light? let him trust in the
name of the LORD, and stay upon his God.
11 Behold, all ye that kindle a fire, that compass [yourselves] about with
sparks: walk in the light of your fire, and in the sparks [that] ye have
kindled. This shall ye have of mine hand; ye shall lie down in sorrow.
(Old Testament | Isaiah 50:4 - 11)
42 Thus saith the Lord, there is one greater than even Abraham, as
Melchizedec, who it is that standest among you and ye know him not, even he
who was with me from the beginning, even he who was mine anointed from
before the foundation of the world, who it is that should come unto thee, O
Ephraim, Ephraim, my beloved from before the foundation of the world!
Revelations of Jesus Christ 50:42
8 My name is Jehovah, and I know the end from the beginning; therefore my
hand shall be over thee.
9 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee above
measure, and make thy name great among all nations, and thou shalt be a
blessing unto thy seed after thee, that in their hands they shall bear this
ministry and Priesthood unto all nations;
10 And I will bless them through thy name; for as many as receive this
Gospel shall be called after thy name, and shall be accounted thy seed, and
shall rise up and bless thee, as their father;
11 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse them that curse thee;
and in thee (that is, in thy Priesthood) and in thy seed (that is, thy
Priesthood), for I give unto thee a promise that this right shall continue
in thee, and in thy seed after thee (that is to say, the literal seed, or
the seed of the body) shall all the families of the earth be blessed, even
with the blessings of the Gospel, which are the blessings of salvation, even
of life eternal.
12 Now, after the Lord had withdrawn from speaking to me, and withdrawn his
face from me, I said in my heart: Thy servant has sought thee earnestly; now
I have found thee;
13 Thou didst send thine angel to deliver me from the gods of Elkenah, and I
will do well to hearken unto thy voice, therefore let thy servant rise up
and depart in peace.
14 So I, Abraham, departed as the Lord had said unto me, and Lot with me;
and I, Abraham, was sixty and two years old when I departed out of Haran.
(Pearl of Great Price | Abraham 2:8 - 14)
23 For I am the Lord thy God, and Jehovah is my name, and I walk not in
crooked paths according to the vagaries and foolish notions of blind
leaders, leading them who be blind; as them of old.
24 For they too had their High Priest, their Elders, and their councils and
their courts, and to what did all these things avail them when I the Lord
God came among them in my power?
25 And even as I came to Judah, even so I send that One who is Mighty and
who is Strong unto Ephraim.
26 For he hath been sent, saith the Lord, to wrest the Holy Priesthood after
the Order of the Son of God from among them, even as John the Baptist wast
sent to wrest the Priesthood after the Order of Aaron from among the Jews,
or them who are Judah and Levi, saith the Lord God of Israel, whom ye know
not.
27 For unto Ephraim, the promises, even Zion, but unto Judah, even the Jews,
Jerusalem.
28 And these be my two witnesses, saith the Father, for the Father hath
given unto Ephraim even as he hath given unto Judah, and which is greater,
saith the Father of heaven and earth, even unto Judah did I send them mine
Only Begotten, but Ephraim, I the Father did cause to be scattered, even at
this time, that he of whom it should be written from the loins of Joseph who
is mighty and strong should come unto them who should also be gathered out
of the nations of their dispersal which are called European, unto this land,
and the land northward have I the Lord God of Israel reserved from before
the foundation of the world unto Ephraim, my chosen unto whom belongeth the
birthright of Israel, through the loins of Joseph.
29 And that land which is southward, I the Lord God have reserved unto the
descendants of Lehi, according to the promises which I did make unto him,
even Manasseh.
30 And thus the promise which I the Lord God did make unto Joseph of old is
fulfilled, for I the Lord am no respecter of persons, and Joseph did prevail
above his brethren to the obtaining of like promises as Abraham, my chosen.
31 And thus may all come unto the Father of heaven and earth in like manner,
with the faith of Joseph, prevail with me to the obtaining of the promises
as did Abraham.
32 And the land northward, I the Father have given unto him who was mighty
and strong from before the foundation of the world, and his posterity
forever, saith the Lord God of Abraham.
33 And thus the words of Isaiah are fulfilled in the which he spake
concerning all who bore record of the Lord God Omnipotent, but more
particularly he did speak concerning that One Mighty and Strong who should
come having words, yea, eternal words, in the which it should be written of
him, saith the Lord, How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him
that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith
unto Zion, thy God reigneth!
34 And the land northward, even the land of the center place have I reserved
unto Ephraim my chosen from before the foundation of the world, and that One
who is Mighty and Strong should come also among them that they should never
taste of death.
35 For he should come out of Ephraim and thus these two shall stand before
the God of the whole earth and all dominion shall be given them, even the
sons of God who were born not by man nor the will of man, or blood, or by
flesh, but were born of God, and all who receive these two, for out of the
mouths of two or three witnesses shall every word be established, receiveth
me, the Father of heaven and earth.
Revelations of Jesus Christ 42:23-35
1 WOE to the crown of pride, to the drunkards of Ephraim, whose glorious
beauty [is] a fading flower, which [are] on the head of the fat valleys of
them that are overcome with wine!
2 Behold, the Lord hath a mighty and strong one, [which] as a tempest of
hail [and] a destroying storm, as a flood of mighty waters overflowing,
shall cast down to the earth with the hand.
3 The crown of pride, the drunkards of Ephraim, shall be trodden under feet:
(Old Testament | Isaiah 28:1 - 3)
You claim to believe in the Blood Atonement.
39 For by what judgment ye judge, that shall ye also be judged, and if ye
judge rashly, ye shall be judged rashly again.
40 And it is this judgment which all men are called by the Father to judge
in the flesh, between good and evil, that they may choose either life and
salvation on the one hand, or death and destruction and that eternally on
the other.
41 For it is this judgment that was spoken of by Jesus to be the weightier
matter of the law.
Revelations of Jesus Christ 42:39-41
34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for
out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good
things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall
give account thereof in the day of judgment.
37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be
condemned.
(New Testament | Matthew 12:34 - 37)
The Lord rebuke thee.
23 But him I will uphold, even if it so be that all Idumea or the world
thereof lift up their heel and fight against him.
Revelations of Jesus Christ 27:23
14 Now this is the state of the souls of the wicked, yea, in darkness,
and a state of awful, fearful looking for the fiery indignation of the
wrath of God upon them; thus they remain in this state, as well as
the righteous in paradise, until the time of their resurrection.
(Book of Mormon | Alma 40:14)
20 For it was that them before the flood obtained promise of deliverance
in the resurrection from hell, which shall not be given unto this
generation, saith the Lord, for thou hast also blasphemed against
the Holy Ghost, O liberal man and woman, which they did not do before
the flood.
Revelations of Jesus Christ 24:20
17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to
whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
(New Testament | 2 Peter 2:17)
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the
heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the
water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in
store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of
ungodly men.
(New Testament | 2 Peter 3:5 - 7)
29 For where is the disputer that there is a God in that day which shall
burn, even as an oven, saith the Lord?
30 Now of these things, ye must judge.
31 For it is that by what judgment, saith the Lord, that a man judgeth, that
he shall also be judged, and it shall be unto every man, even according to
his work.
Revelations of Jesus Christ 8:29-31
35 And it would be better for them if they had not been born. For do ye
suppose that ye can get rid of the justice of an offended God, who hath been
trampled under feet of men, that thereby salvation might come?
(Book of Mormon | 3 Nephi 28:35)
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were
opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the
dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books,
according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell
delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man
according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second
death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the
lake of fire.
(New Testament | Revelation 20:12 - 15)
Yea, thou art cut off, saith the Lord.
(1:41 am, Nov 19, 2007)
John P, this inveterate apostate from the pure faith of Joseph Smith and
Brigham Young, thereby joins the exclusive club of the living dead,
consisting of the likes of Stephen Hawking and Steven Weinberg and Billy
Graham. Good riddance to you dead men walking!
15 Behold, they shall surely gather together, [but] not by me: whosoever
shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake.
16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and
that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the
waster to destroy.
17 ¶ No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue
[that] shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This [is] the
heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness [is] of me,
saith the LORD.
(Old Testament | Isaiah 54:15 - 17)
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that
antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know
that it is the last time.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of
us, they would [no doubt] have continued with us: but [they went out], that
they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
(New Testament | 1 John 2:18 - 19)
A partial list of perdition, i.e. of the Korihor Club of Anti-Christs
(among those pronounced physically dead):
Norman Mailer
J. Paul Getty
Hannes Alfven
Richard Feynman
Francis Crick
Madalyn Murray O'Hair
Margaret Mead
Carl Jung
Sigmund Freud
Judas Iscariot
Herod the Great
Jezebel, Ahab's wife
(whose perdition status the Spirit confirmed at 4:09 am, Nov 19, 2007)
Korihor (the Book of Mormon, Alma 30)
Korah (Numbers 16; Jude 1:11, "the gainsaying of Core")
Cain, the first murderer
16 And Adam and Eve, his wife, ceased not to call upon God. And Adam knew
Eve his wife, and she conceived and bare Cain, and said: I have gotten a man
from the Lord; wherefore he may not reject his words. But behold, Cain
hearkened not, saying: Who is the Lord that I should know him?
17 And she again conceived and bare his brother Abel. And Abel hearkened
unto the voice of the Lord. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a
tiller of the ground.
18 And Cain loved Satan more than God. And Satan commanded him, saying: Make
an offering unto the Lord.
19 And in process of time it came to pass that Cain brought of the fruit of
the ground an offering unto the Lord.
20 And Abel he also brought of the firstlings of his flock, and of the fat
thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel, and to his offering;
21 But unto Cain, and to his offering, he had not respect. Now Satan knew
this, and it pleased him. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
22 And the Lord said unto Cain: Why art thou wroth? Why is thy countenance
fallen?
23 If thou doest well, thou shalt be accepted. And if thou doest not well,
sin lieth at the door, and Satan desireth to have thee; and except thou
shalt hearken unto my commandments, I will deliver thee up, and it shall be
unto thee according to his desire. And thou shalt rule over him;
24 For from this time forth thou shalt be the father of his lies; thou shalt
be called Perdition; for thou wast also before the world.
25 And it shall be said in time to come-That these abominations were had
from Cain; for he rejected the greater counsel which was had from God; and
this is a cursing which I will put upon thee, except thou repent.
26 And Cain was wroth, and listened not any more to the voice of the Lord,
neither to Abel, his brother, who walked in holiness before the Lord.
27 And Adam and his wife mourned before the Lord, because of Cain and his
brethren.
(Pearl of Great Price | Moses 5:16 - 27)
25 And this we saw also, and bear record, that an angel of God who was in
authority in the presence of God, who rebelled against the Only Begotten Son
whom the Father loved and who was in the bosom of the Father, was thrust
down from the presence of God and the Son,
26 And was called Perdition, for the heavens wept over him-he was Lucifer, a
son of the morning.
27 And we beheld, and lo, he is fallen! is fallen, even a son of the
morning!
28 And while we were yet in the Spirit, the Lord commanded us that we should
write the vision; for we beheld Satan, that old serpent, even the devil, who
rebelled against God, and sought to take the kingdom of our God and his
Christ-
29 Wherefore, he maketh war with the saints of God, and encompasseth them
round about.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 76:25 - 29)
18 For they are liars and are sons of the father of lies, even perdition,
and have denied the truth.
19 For they have denied the light and they have denied the spirit of
revelation found within my servant that they crucify the Lord God of Israel
afresh.
20 For this is denial of the Holy Ghost, yea, even thy sciences are
organized according to this blasphemy, and are based upon the lie
that all things which are eternal are denied by them, that there is
no absolute truth.
Revelations of Jesus Christ 159:18-20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvaGLT-_GhY
"Judgment [of God is] according to opportunity for acquiring truth."
~~Art Bulla, Apostle of Jesus Christ
3 And it is that this death cometh upon all those who deny me and
persist therein and who will not repent, neither can they, saith
the Lord God of Israel who it is that doth speak unto thee, O man,
whom I the Lord God have created in mine own image, even in the
image of mine Only Begotten Son have I created thee.
Revelations of Jesus Christ 43:3
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance [belongeth] unto me, I will
recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
31 [It is] a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
(New Testament | Hebrews 10:30 - 31)
What Disease Killed King Herod?
Bijal P. Trivedi
National Geographic Today
January 28, 2002
The life of Herod the Great-king of ancient Judea-was the stuff of legend,
but the cause of his grisly death more than 2,000 years ago has been a
mystery.
Now, after studying ancient accounts of Herod's death, Jan Hirschmann, a
physician at the University of Washington School of Medicine in Seattle,
thinks the king probably died of chronic kidney disease, complicated by a
particularly nasty case of gangrene.
Hirschmann revealed his findings last week at the Historical Clinical
Pathology Conference, held at a University of Maryland medical center in
Baltimore.
Herod (B.C. 73-B.C. 4) was a friend of the Emperor Augustus and knew Julius
Caesar and Mark Anthony. Among his considerable achievements, he built the
largest artificial harbor in the Mediterranean area.
Some of his actions were much less glorious: He executed one of his 10 wives
and three of his 14 children, and might have ordered the infamous Slaughter
of the Innocents in his quest to kill the baby Jesus.
Hirschmann's diagnosis was based on accounts written by biographer Flavius
Josephus, who lived 75 to 100 years after Herod. Josephus had consulted the
writings of Herod's court historian, Nicholas of Damascus.
Josephus wrote: "He had a fever, though not a raging fever, an intolerable
itching of the whole skin, continuous pains in the intestines, tumors of the
feet as in dropsy, inflamation of the abdomen, and gangrene of the privy
parts."
According to Josephus, Herod also suffered from asthma, limb convulsions,
and foul breath.
Other people have proposed that Herod had died of gonorrhea. Hirschman
disagreed. He concluded that the string of symptoms, with the exception of
genital gangrene, were more consistent with chronic kidney disease.
Faced with "no diagnostic epiphanies," Hirschmann said he decided to focus
on the symptom of itching. "There are very few diseases that cause itching,"
he explained, adding that he narrowed the list of likely causes to fewer
than ten. Among the possible causes were hypo- and hyper-thyroidism and
Hodgkin's disease.
The confounding factor that muddied the investigation was Josephus' report
of genital gangrene as one of Herod's symptoms. Hirschmann concluded that
this was caused by a rare infection of the male genitalia, called Fournier's
gangrene.
Now in its eighth year, the Historical Clinical Pathologic Conference
reexamines the death of a famous person from the past who died from causes
that have not been fully explained. Every year an anonymous clinical and
personal history is released to the medical community and assigned to a
specific discussant whose job is to figure out who the person was and the
cause of death.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/01/0128_020128_KingHerod.html
Tue., May 08, 2007
Archeologist: King Herod's tomb desecrated, but discovery 'high point'
Herodium is located some 12 kilometers from Jerusalem.
(Photo: Ministry of Foreign Affairs Web site)
By Amiram Barkat, Haaretz Correspondent, and Haaretz Staff
The archeologist who located King Herod's tomb at Herodium said Tuesday that
the grave had been desecrated, apparently shortly after his death, but
called the discovery a "high point."
The Hebrew University of Jerusalem announced Monday night that it has
uncovered the grave and tomb of Herod, who ruled Judea for the Roman empire
from circa 37 BCE.
Professor Ehud Netzer of the university's Institute of Archaeology told
reporters Tuesday that the tomb was discovered when a team of
researchers found pieces of a limestone sarcophagus believed to belong
to the ancient king.
Although there were no bones in the container, he said the sarcophagus'
location and ornate appearance indicated it was Herod's.
"It's a sarcophagus we don't just see anywhere," Netzer said. "It is
something very special."
Netzer led the team, though he said he was not on the site when the
sarcophagus was found.
He said the sarcophagus had been smashed into pieces, most likely by someone
seeking revenge on Herod during the great Jewish rebellion of 66-72 CE.
"The discovery of the grave is the high point in the excavation at the
site," said Netzer.
The professor, who is considered one of the leading experts on King Herod,
has conducted archeological digs at Herodium since 1972 in an attempt to
locate the grave and tomb.
The discovery solves one of Israel's greatest archeological mysteries.
The majority of researchers had believed that Herod was in fact buried at
Herodium, based on the writings of the ancient Jewish historian Flavius
Josephus, but multiple excavations at the site failed to locate the grave.
Netzer's successful dig focused on a different part of the site than
previous excavations, between the upper part of Herodium and the site's two
palaces.
Herodium, a fortified palace built by Herod some 12 kilometers south of
Jerusalem, was destroyed by the Romans in 71 CE.
Herod, whose father and grandfather converted to Judaism, was appointed
governor of Galilee at the age of 25 and was made "King of the Jews" by the
Roman senate in approximately 40 BCE. He remained king for around 34 years.
Herod, also known as Herod the Great, is credited with expanding the Second
Temple and building Caesarea, Masada, and many other monumental construction
projects. He died in the year 4 BCE in Jericho after a long illness.
....
Herod spared no expense in an attempt to turn the site into a regional gem,
bringing water from Solomon's Pools and special soil to allow his gardens to
blossom in the heart of the desert.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/856784.html
36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and
lose his own soul?
(New Testament | Mark 8:36)
1 But, behold, in the last days, or in the days of the Gentiles-yea, behold
all the nations of the Gentiles and also the Jews, both those who shall come
upon this land and those who shall be upon other lands, yea, even upon all
the lands of the earth, behold, they will be drunken with iniquity and all
manner of abominations-
(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 27:1)
6 ... For they [are] not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, [are they] all children:
but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these [are] not the
children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
9 For this [is] the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sara
shall have a son.
10 And not only [this]; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, [even]
by our father Isaac;
11 (For [the children] being not yet born, neither having done any good or
evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of
works [_of the lesser law of Moses_], but of him that calleth;)
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
14 What shall we say then? [Is there] unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I
will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16 So then [it is] not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of
God that sheweth mercy.
17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I
raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might
be declared throughout all the earth.
18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will [have mercy], and whom he will he
hardeneth.
19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath
resisted his will?
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing
formed say to him that formed [it], Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one
vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 [What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known,
endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of
mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the
Gentiles?
(New Testament | Romans 9:6 - 24)
1 The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel by Malachi.
2 I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us?
[Was] not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,
3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the
dragons of the wilderness.
4 Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the
desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will
throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The
people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever.
(Old Testament | Malachi 1:1 - 4)
5 For my sword shall be bathed in heaven: behold, it shall come down upon
Idumea, and upon the people of my curse, to judgment.
(Old Testament | Isaiah 34:5)
8 Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD [are] upon the sinful kingdom, and I will
destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly
destroy the house of Jacob, saith the LORD.
9 For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all
nations, like as [corn] is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain
fall upon the earth.
10 All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil
shall not overtake nor prevent us.
11 ¶ In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and
close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will
build it as in the days of old:
12 That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which
are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this.
(Old Testament | Amos 9:8 - 12)
1 Also, thou son of man, prophesy unto the mountains of Israel, and say, Ye
mountains of Israel, hear the word of the LORD:
2 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because the enemy hath said against you, Aha,
even the ancient high places are ours in possession:
3 Therefore prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because they have
made [you] desolate, and swallowed you up on every side, that ye might be a
possession unto the residue of the heathen, and ye are taken up in the lips
of talkers, and [are] an infamy of the people:
4 Therefore, ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord GOD; Thus
saith the Lord GOD to the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to
the valleys, to the desolate wastes, and to the cities that are forsaken,
which became a prey and derision to the residue of the heathen that [are]
round about;
5 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Surely in the fire of my jealousy have
I spoken against the residue of the heathen, and against all Idumea, which
have appointed my land into their possession with the joy of all [their]
heart, with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey.
6 Prophesy therefore concerning the land of Israel, and say unto the
mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys, Thus saith
the Lord GOD; Behold, I have spoken in my jealousy and in my fury, because
ye have borne the shame of the heathen:
7 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; I have lifted up mine hand, Surely the
heathen that [are] about you, they shall bear their shame.
8 ¶ But ye, O mountains of Israel, ye shall shoot forth your branches, and
yield your fruit to my people of Israel; for they are at hand to come.
9 For, behold, I [am] for you, and I will turn unto you, and ye shall be
tilled and sown:
10 And I will multiply men upon you, all the house of Israel, [even] all of
it: and the cities shall be inhabited, and the wastes shall be builded:
11 And I will multiply upon you man and beast; and they shall increase and
bring fruit: and I will settle you after your old estates, and will do
better [unto you] than at your beginnings: and ye shall know that I [am] the
LORD.
(Old Testament | Ezekiel 36:1 - 11)
15 For the day of the LORD [is] near upon all the heathen: as thou hast
done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own
head.
16 For as ye have drunk upon my holy mountain, [so] shall all the heathen
drink continually, yea, they shall drink, and they shall swallow down, and
they shall be as though they had not been.
17 ¶ But upon mount Zion shall be deliverance, and there shall be holiness;
and the house of Jacob shall possess their possessions.
18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame,
and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour
them; and there shall not be [any] remaining of the house of Esau; for the
LORD hath spoken [it].
21 And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and
the kingdom shall be the LORD's.
(Old Testament | Obadiah 1:15 - 18,21)
34 And again, verily I say unto you, O inhabitants of the earth: I the Lord
am willing to make these things known unto all flesh;
35 For I am no respecter of persons, and will that all men shall know that
the day speedily cometh; the hour is not yet, but is nigh at hand, when
peace shall be taken from the earth, and the devil shall have power over his
own dominion.
36 And also the Lord shall have power over his saints, and shall reign in
their midst, and shall come down in judgment upon Idumea, or the world.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 1:34 - 36)
Salvation is what I am seeking and striving for, and it is also your aim and
object. The Lord has restored the Priesthood in our day for the salvation
of Israel. Does he design to save anybody else? Yes; he will save the
house of Esau, and I hope to live until I see Mount Zion established, and
saviours come up to save those poor, miserable beings who are continually
persecuting us -- all who have not sinned against the Holy Ghost. Our
labour is to save ourselves, to save the house of Israel, to save the house
of Esau, and all the Gentile nations, -- every one that can be saved.
The salvation offered in the Gospel is one of the most consoling, one of the
most merciful, one of the most magnanimous principles that can be advanced
in all the revelations of God to man. All the sons and daughters of men
will be saved, except the sons of perdition.
~~Journal of Discourses, Vol.7, Pg.281, Brigham Young, October 7, 1859
It is recorded in the Bible that in the Last days the God of heaven will set
up a kingdom. Will that kingdom destroy the human family? No: it will
save every person that will and can be saved. The doctrines of the Saviour
reveal and place the believers in possession of principles whereby saviours
will come upon Mount Zion to save the house of Esau, which is the Gentile
nations, from sin and death, -- all except those who have sinned against the
Holy Ghost. Men and women will enter into the temples of God, and be, in
comparison, pillars there, and officiate year after year for those who have
slept thousands of years. The doctrine of the Christian world, which I have
already said I was familiar with, sends them to hell irretrievably, which to
me is the height of folly. They do not understand what the Lord is doing,
nor what he purposes to do.
~~Journal of Discourses, Vol.6, Pg.344, Brigham Young, July 31, 1859
Our enemies will yet be glad to come to us for safety and salvation; and we
will do as brother Kimball has said -- we will save the old veteran fathers;
and the time will come when we will be baptised for them, while those who
trample upon the rights of their fellow men will be weltering in hell. Yes,
we will bring up those old revolutionary sires and save them; for God loves
men who are true to each other and are true to him.
~~Journal of Discourses, Vol.5, Pg.213, Brigham Young, September 6th, 1857
Suffering is necessary, yea prerequisite for happiness, even unto
eternal bliss, for it purifies the bearer thereof.
"... so-called heathen nations [the poor, the downtrodden of nations like
India and China] and the reasons why such great distress among these
nations. Reward of these nations greater in resurrection for suffering."
~~Art Bulla the One Mighty and Strong
21 And others will he pacify, and lull them away into carnal security, that
they will say: All is well in Zion; yea, Zion prospereth, all is well-and
thus the devil cheateth their souls, and leadeth them away carefully down to
hell.
22 And behold, others he flattereth away, and telleth them there is no hell;
and he saith unto them: I am no devil, for there is none-and thus he
whispereth in their ears, until he grasps them with his awful chains, from
whence there is no deliverance.
23 Yea, they are grasped with death, and hell; and death, and hell, and the
devil, and all that have been seized therewith must stand before the throne
of God, and be judged according to their works, from whence they must go
into the place prepared for them, even a lake of fire and brimstone, which
is endless torment.
24 Therefore, wo be unto him that is at ease in Zion!
25 Wo be unto him that crieth: All is well!
26 Yea, wo be unto him that hearkeneth unto the precepts of men, and denieth
the power of God, and the gift of the Holy Ghost!
27 Yea, wo be unto him that saith: We have received, and we need no more!
28 And in fine, wo unto all those who tremble, and are angry because of the
truth of God! For behold, he that is built upon the rock receiveth it with
gladness; and he that is built upon a sandy foundation trembleth lest he
shall fall.
(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 28:21 - 28)
1 And I, the Lord God, spake unto Moses, saying: That Satan, whom thou hast
commanded in the name of mine Only Begotten, is the same which was from the
beginning, and he came before me, saying-Behold, here am I, send me, I will
be thy son, and I will redeem all mankind, that one soul shall not be lost,
and surely I will do it; wherefore give me thine honor.
2 But, behold, my Beloved Son, which was my Beloved and Chosen from the
beginning, said unto me-Father, thy will be done, and the glory be thine
forever.
3 Wherefore, because that Satan rebelled against me, and sought to destroy
the agency of man, which I, the Lord God, had given him, and also, that I
should give unto him mine own power; by the power of mine Only Begotten, I
caused that he should be cast down;
4 And he became Satan, yea, even the devil, the father of all lies, to
deceive and to blind men, and to lead them captive at his will, even as many
as would not hearken unto my voice.
(Pearl of Great Price | Moses 4:1 - 4)
The wicked were rebellious in their hearts against my Father's plan of
salvation by the exercise of free agency, or freely choosing between
good and evil, saith the Lord.
(Oct. 12, 2007)
For God does not spoil His children.
6 ¶ Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is
near:
7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and
let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our
God, for he will abundantly pardon.
8 ¶ For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my
ways, saith the LORD.
9 For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than
your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
(Old Testament | Isaiah 55:6 - 9)
12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he
shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the
name of the city of my God, [which is] new Jerusalem, which cometh down out
of heaven from my God: and [I will write upon him] my new name.
13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the
churches.
14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things
saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation
of God;
15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert
cold or hot.
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue
thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need
of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor,
and blind, and naked:
18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be
rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and [that] the shame
of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that
thou mayest see.
19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and
repent.
20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and
open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as
I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the
churches.
(New Testament | Revelation 3:12 - 22)
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people,
that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her
plagues.
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her
iniquities.
6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according
to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much
torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and
am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and
famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong [is] the Lord
God who judgeth her.
9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived
deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall
see the smoke of her burning,
10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that
great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man
buyeth their merchandise any more:
(New Testament | Revelation 18:4 - 11)
1 WOE to the bloody city! it [is] all full of lies [and] robbery; the prey
departeth not;
2 The noise of a whip, and the noise of the rattling of the wheels, and of
the pransing horses, and of the jumping chariots.
3 The horseman lifteth up both the bright sword and the glittering spear:
and [there is] a multitude of slain, and a great number of carcases; and
[there is] none end of [their] corpses; they stumble upon their corpses:
4 Because of the multitude of the whoredoms of the wellfavoured harlot, the
mistress of witchcrafts, that selleth nations through her whoredoms, and
families through her witchcrafts.
5 Behold, I [am] against thee, saith the LORD of hosts; and I will discover
thy skirts upon thy face, and I will shew the nations thy nakedness, and the
kingdoms thy shame.
6 And I will cast abominable filth upon thee, and make thee vile, and will
set thee as a gazingstock.
7 And it shall come to pass, [that] all they that look upon thee shall flee
from thee, and say, Nineveh is laid waste: who will bemoan her? whence shall
I seek comforters for thee?
8 Art thou better than populous No, that was situate among the rivers, [that
had] the waters round about it, whose rampart [was] the sea, [and] her wall
[was] from the sea?
9 Ethiopia and Egypt [were] her strength, and [it was] infinite; Put and
Lubim were thy helpers.
10 Yet [was] she carried away, she went into captivity: her young children
also were dashed in pieces at the top of all the streets: and they cast lots
for her honourable men, and all her great men were bound in chains.
11 Thou also shalt be drunken: thou shalt be hid, thou also shalt seek
strength because of the enemy.
12 All thy strong holds [shall be like] fig trees with the firstripe figs:
if they be shaken, they shall even fall into the mouth of the eater.
15 There shall the fire devour thee; the sword shall cut thee off, it shall
eat thee up like the cankerworm: make thyself many as the cankerworm, make
thyself many as the locusts.
16 Thou hast multiplied thy merchants above the stars of heaven: the
cankerworm spoileth, and flieth away.
(Old Testament | Nahum 3:1 - 12,15 - 16)
8 Wherefore, we would to God that we could persuade all men not to rebel
against God, to provoke him to anger, but that all men would believe in
Christ, and view his death, and suffer his cross and bear the shame of the
world; wherefore, I, Jacob, take it upon me to fulfil the commandment of my
brother Nephi.
(Book of Mormon | Jacob 1:8)
7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the
revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of
Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
(New Testament | 2 Corinthians 12:7)
11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are
made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your
consciences.
(New Testament | 2 Corinthians 5:11)
4 And Man of Holiness is the name of my Father and we are one, and we shall
not be mocked any more in that day which shall burn as an oven in the which
more than twelve legions of my little ones shall reap down the earth as
recorded by my servant Malachi, which shall burn even as an oven, for we
that come shall burn them up, saith the Lord God of Hosts.
5 And that evil which we have purposed in our hearts, shall it not come to
pass in that day?
6 For vengeance is mine, saith the Lord, and I, even I, shall repay in that
day.
7 For it was that I caused that anti-Christ Korihor, to be slain, who was a
type in these things, saith the Lord, who also taught men in this manner, as
I, the Lord God did cause it to be written in the Book, translated by my
servant Joseph, as a testimony unto this nation, even the gentiles, and a
warning even in these things, that they might not be deceived as them of
old.
8 And it was also, saith the Lord, that these things were also taught among
them before the flood which caused my wrath to be kindled against the
inhabitants of the whole earth.
9 And thus it is that as in the days of Noah, so are they even now, which is
the day of the coming of the Son of Man with the clouds of heaven, in this
day, saith the Lord God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
10 For it was that this anti-Christ, was he not detected in that day by my
servant Alma even as Freud hath he not also been detected in this day
through the medium of mine appointment, even my servant Art Bulla?
11 And this by the revelations which I the Lord God have given him.
12 And is not this medium in the power and might and wisdom thereof more
intelligent than all the earth which combined against mine anointed in these
things, in all ages of the world, even against Melchizedec who is of old and
who is one of the Ancients, saith the Lord?
13 For they, even mine anointed are mighty, saith the Lord, and nothing can
I the Lord withhold from them and they are now with me in the might of my
power which stoppeth the utterance of the tongue for the glory thereof.
14 And they associate one with another, and know even as they are known, and
see, even as they are seen, in the might of my glory.
15 And there the wicked shall not have place, for shall they pollute the
inheritance of mine anointed with their lies and their priestcrafts, saith
the Lord?
16 For Nehor [_the Book of Mormon, Alma 1_], was he not also a type of thy
priests and preachers, O man, and has he not also been detected through the
medium of mine appointment, as in times of old, saith the Lord?
17 For the whole world hath it not been deceived by false science and false
religion, that the whole world shall perish because of unbelief concerning
the right path which leadeth unto the Eternal Lives, yea back into my
presence, saith the Lord?
18 Even so, judge ye, saith the Lord, and ye shall see, even in this day,
when mine terrible ones come, who hath power, saith the Lord.
19 For one of these, my little ones, have they not power to defeat without
loss of stride, thy armies, O man, in the might of my power which I have
given unto them?
20 For they effortlessly move and dart and stand and speak as with thunder,
and great glory and light and intelligence and honor, and holiness unto the
Lord, and with this irresistable might and power so that the ground, doth it
not open up and move, for all things are theirs, and they understand and
know all things, and they are Gods, ordained from before the foundation of
the world after the Order of the Holy One of Israel, as my warriors, even
the Sons of God, saith the Lord?
21 And they are mighty such as the world hath not seen, yea the glory of my
legions and the devils and the hosts of hell tremble at their names, even
Peter and James and John, Joseph, and Brigham Young, and many others, for
they the devils know, O man, and they tremble as should ye, but for thy
ignorance and slow stupidity and sloth in the flesh.
Revelations of Jesus Christ 32:4-21
7 ¶ How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good
tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that
publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!
8 Thy watchmen shall lift up the voice; with the voice together shall they
sing: for they shall see eye to eye, when the LORD shall bring again Zion.
(Old Testament | Isaiah 52:7 - 8)
15 Behold upon the mountains the feet of him that bringeth good tidings,
that publisheth peace! O Judah, keep thy solemn feasts, perform thy vows:
for the wicked shall no more pass through thee; he is utterly cut off.
4 The chariots shall rage in the streets, they shall justle one against
another in the broad ways: they shall seem like torches, they shall run like
the lightnings.
13 Behold, I [am] against thee, saith the LORD of hosts, and I will burn her
chariots in the smoke, and the sword shall devour thy young lions: and I
will cut off thy prey from the earth, and the voice of thy messengers shall
no more be heard.
(Old Testament | Nahum 1:15; 2:4,13)
40 And the drunkards of Ephraim, shall they not be trodden underfoot?
41 For he holdeth the sceptre according to the promise which I the Lord God
did make in that day with David.
42 For the Lord hath a mighty and strong one, and your refuge of lies shall
be washed away by the overflowing scourge, and is rent by a stormy wind in
mine anger, saith the Lord.
43 Wherefore are ye puffed up in thy vanity, then?
44 For thy vanity is lies, and thy arrogance born of folly.
45 For a bed is shorter than a man can stretch himself on it and the
covering narrower than that he can wrap himself in it.
46 And it is that whatever the world may think of this principle, they
cannot know anything of righteousness or unrighteousness, God or the devil
by Hebrew, and vain study, without my Revelator, saith the Lord, through
whom I dispense out unto the children of men what I will that they shall
receive, whether life or death.
47 For all else is vain opinion without authority, saith the Lord.
Revelations of Jesus Christ 23:40-47
10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I
yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is
not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught [it], but by the
revelation of Jesus Christ.
(New Testament | Galatians 1:10 - 12)
23 For I the Lord God speak and the children of men in their wickedness and
depravity deny these things and set up stakes according to their narrow
understandings and wrest the scriptures away from their true meanings that
they perish, yea even from the earth.
24 For all shall be revelators in the day when I come in clouds of glory to
their destruction, for they shall see signs in that day, but not unto their
salvation, saith the Lord God of Enoch.
Revelations of Jesus Christ 3:23-24
99 And all who receive not these things, saith the Lord, shall be cut off
from among the people in that day which shall prove the destruction of this
the American nation when the economy thereof, which is after the Order of
Babylon the Great, shall fall.
Revelations of Jesus Christ 5:99
11 Therefore it shall come to pass that whosoever will not believe in my
words, who am Jesus Christ, which the Father shall cause him to bring forth
unto the Gentiles, and shall give unto him power that he shall bring them
forth unto the Gentiles, (it shall be done even as Moses said) they shall be
cut off from among my people who are of the covenant.
14 Yea, wo be unto the Gentiles except they repent; for it shall come to
pass in that day, saith the Father, that I will cut off thy horses out of
the midst of thee, and I will destroy thy chariots;
15 And I will cut off the cities of thy land, and throw down all thy
strongholds;
16 And I will cut off witchcrafts out of thy land, and thou shalt have no
more soothsayers;
17 Thy graven images I will also cut off, and thy standing images out of the
midst of thee, and thou shalt no more worship the works of thy hands;
18 And I will pluck up thy groves out of the midst of thee; so will I
destroy thy cities.
19 And it shall come to pass that all lyings, and deceivings, and envyings,
and strifes, and priestcrafts, and whoredoms, shall be done away.
20 For it shall come to pass, saith the Father, that at that day whosoever
will not repent and come unto my Beloved Son, them will I cut off from among
my people, O house of Israel;
21 And I will execute vengeance and fury upon them, even as upon the
heathen, such as they have not heard.
22 But if they will repent and hearken unto my words, and harden not their
hearts, I will establish my church among them, and they shall come in unto
the covenant and be numbered among this the remnant of Jacob, unto whom I
have given this land for their inheritance;
23 And they shall assist my people, the remnant of Jacob, and also as many
of the house of Israel as shall come, that they may build a city, which
shall be called the New Jerusalem.
24 And then shall they assist my people that they may be gathered in, who
are scattered upon all the face of the land, in unto the New Jerusalem.
25 And then shall the power of heaven come down among them; and I also will
be in the midst.
(Book of Mormon | 3 Nephi 21:11,14 - 25)
Yea, the Spirit of the Lord beareth record at 5:23 am, Nov 19, 2007:
1 BLOW ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let
all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for
[it is] nigh at hand;
2 A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick
darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a
strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after
it, [even] to the years of many generations.
3 A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land
[is] as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate
wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them.
4 The appearance of them [is] as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen,
so shall they run.
5 Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap, like
the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble, as a strong people
set in battle array.
6 Before their face the people shall be much pained: all faces shall gather
blackness.
7 They shall run like mighty men; they shall climb the wall like men of war;
and they shall march every one on his ways, and they shall not break their
ranks:
8 Neither shall one thrust another; they shall walk every one in his path:
and [when] they fall upon the sword, they shall not be wounded.
9 They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they
shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a
thief.
10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and
the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
11 And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp [is]
very great: for [he is] strong that executeth his word: for the day of the
LORD [is] great and very terrible; and who can abide it?
12 ¶ Therefore also now, saith the LORD, turn ye [even] to me with all your
heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning:
13 And rend your heart, and not your garments, and turn unto the LORD your
God: for he [is] gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great
kindness, and repenteth him of the evil.
(Old Testament | Joel 2:1 - 13)
15 O the wise, and the learned, and the rich, that are puffed up in the
pride of their hearts, and all those who preach false doctrines, and all
those who commit whoredoms, and pervert the right way of the Lord, wo, wo,
wo be unto them, saith the Lord God Almighty, for they shall be thrust down
to hell!
16 Wo unto them that turn aside the just for a thing of naught and revile
against that which is good, and say that it is of no worth! For the day
shall come that the Lord God will speedily visit the inhabitants of the
earth; and in that day that they are fully ripe in iniquity they shall
perish.
17 But behold, if the inhabitants of the earth shall repent of their
wickedness and abominations they shall not be destroyed, saith the Lord of
Hosts.
18 But behold, that great and abominable church, the ***** of all the earth,
must tumble to the earth, and great must be the fall thereof.
19 For the kingdom of the devil must shake, and they which belong to it must
needs be stirred up unto repentance, or the devil will grasp them with his
everlasting chains, and they be stirred up to anger, and perish;
20 For behold, at that day shall he rage in the hearts of the children of
men, and stir them up to anger against that which is good.
32 Wo be unto the Gentiles, saith the Lord God of Hosts! For notwithstanding
I shall lengthen out mine arm unto them from day to day, they will deny me;
nevertheless, I will be merciful unto them, saith the Lord God, if they will
repent and come unto me; for mine arm is lengthened out all the day long,
saith the Lord God of Hosts.
(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 28:15 - 20,32)
31 For assuredly as the Lord liveth they shall see that the terrible one is
brought to naught, and the scorner is consumed, and all that watch for
iniquity are cut off;
32 And they that make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him
that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of naught.
(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 27:31 - 32)
27 What I tell you in darkness, [that] speak ye in light: and what ye hear
in the ear, [that] preach ye upon the housetops.
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul:
but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
(New Testament | Matthew 10:27 - 28)
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Jong Kim wrote:
"john p" wrote:
Art you ever kill anyone?
Oh look everyone, our favorite spell caster is back.
Hey, Kim, it's not working here. Take it some place else.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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A.A #1143 http://azhotops.blogspot.com/
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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His zealoty for the blood atonement and the fact that he is hiding out
in Mexico leads one to ask this question. Why are you all the sudden
removing the alt.atheism from the subject--you have no problem
spamming them with all you B.S. normally? Oh wait that is your
brother. Are you back to following Artie? Art has TWO followers
again!?
On Nov 19, 7:38 am, "\"john p\"" <john.ph...@gmail.com> wrote:
Is that a no? I'll take his word for it. I am just curious based on
what he has said about the blood atonement.
On Nov 19, 7:31 am, "Jong Kim" <rh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"john p" wrote:
Art you ever kill anyone?
34 Wo unto the liar, for he shall be thrust down to hell.
(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 9:34)
Art Bulla, Messiah to the House of Joseph, even Ephraim and Manasseh:
Mr. Ogden Kraut, Aug. 24, 1981
Dear Ogden,
...
I hold the keys, and get over it O ye disputors, if ye can. The Lord has=
also directed that the valleys [of Utah] are no longer a haven from
persecution as they were intended to be for the people who were gathered=
here, they have already fulfilled that function. They will now on the
contrary fulfill a different function for the generation now inhabiting
them, that of their destruction. For the generation now inhabiting these=
valleys are of quite a different character than those poor Saints fleein=
g
persecution from their enemies. Hence what was a blessing to one generat=
ion,
the Lord turns into a cursing unto another, for he reserves unto himself=
the
right to do just as he pleases in this regard, ... For all those who are=
pure in heart are to be gathered out of these mountains [of Utah], and t=
hose
who will not hear shall be destroyed by earthquake in that day. I refer =
you
to the Revelations (Section 31) which I received in February, 1979, for
which thing my hometeacher [Randy Olson, to whom Art Bulla tried to read=
the
revelation, by the Lord's commandment] in the Mormon Church tried to kil=
l
me, in which the Lord said, "All your tall buildings will I cause that t=
hey
shall tumble to the ground, and the mountains which ye are so fond of, s=
hall
become your enemies . . . that the abominations of this people be covere=
d .
. ."
~~Teachings of the One Mighty and Strong, pgs. 43,56
1 And it came to pass, Joseph was in the desert seeking his brethren and=
they seized upon him, and mocked him, saying: behold, our prince is come=
unto us. Mayest thou live long, and may thy kingdom be forever!
2 And they worshipped him in mocking fashion, saying, have mercy on us
O king! Save us, O mighty one!
3 And they seized upon Joseph to kill him. And Dan drew his sword and
thrust it into the side of Joseph, howbeit it pierced not his flesh.
4 And all who stood by were astonished. And Reuben said, Verily, the Lor=
d
hath surely chosen him, and the power of the Most High dwelleth with him=
..
5 Suffer not our hands to shed his blood, for his blood should surely cr=
y
up to the Lord against us, and great would be the curse against our chil=
dren
unto seven generations.
6 Yea, rather, let us cast him into a pit wherein he may perish for lack=
of meat or may be eaten by wild beasts, and thus shall our hands be free=
of
his blood. And so they seized the tunic which Jacob had made for Joseph =
and
cast Joseph into a pit naked for to die.
Book of Joseph 5:1-6
(Re-delivered in 1842, through Joseph Smith the Seer)
14 Now, I say unto you, and what I say unto you, I say unto all the Twel=
ve:
Arise and gird up your loins, take up your cross, follow me, and feed my=
sheep.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 112:14)
4 The Lord GOD hath given me the tongue of the learned, that I should kn=
ow
how to speak a word in season to [him that is] weary: he wakeneth mornin=
g by
morning, he wakeneth mine ear to hear as the learned.
5 =B6 The Lord GOD hath opened mine ear, and I was not rebellious, neith=
er
turned away back.
6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off =
the
hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.
7 =B6 For the Lord GOD will help me; therefore shall I not be confounded=
:
therefore have I set my face like a flint, and I know that I shall not b=
e
ashamed.
8 [He is] near that justifieth me; who will contend with me? let us stan=
d
together: who [is] mine adversary? let him come near to me.
9 Behold, the Lord GOD will help me; who [is] he [that] shall condemn me=
?
lo, they all shall wax old as a garment; the moth shall eat them up.
10 =B6 Who [is] among you that feareth the LORD, that obeyeth the voice =
of his
servant, that walketh [in] darkness, and hath no light? let him trust in=
the
name of the LORD, and stay upon his God.
11 Behold, all ye that kindle a fire, that compass [yourselves] about wi=
th
sparks: walk in the light of your fire, and in the sparks [that] ye have=
kindled. This shall ye have of mine hand; ye shall lie down in sorrow.
(Old Testament | Isaiah 50:4 - 11)
42 Thus saith the Lord, there is one greater than even Abraham, as
Melchizedec, who it is that standest among you and ye know him not, even=
he
who was with me from the beginning, even he who was mine anointed from
before the foundation of the world, who it is that should come unto thee=
, O
Ephraim, Ephraim, my beloved from before the foundation of the world!
Revelations of Jesus Christ 50:42
8 My name is Jehovah, and I know the end from the beginning; therefore m=
y
hand shall be over thee.
9 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee above
measure, and make thy name great among all nations, and thou shalt be a
blessing unto thy seed after thee, that in their hands they shall bear t=
his
ministry and Priesthood unto all nations;
10 And I will bless them through thy name; for as many as receive this
Gospel shall be called after thy name, and shall be accounted thy seed, =
and
shall rise up and bless thee, as their father;
11 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse them that curse thee=
;
and in thee (that is, in thy Priesthood) and in thy seed (that is, thy
Priesthood), for I give unto thee a promise that this right shall contin=
ue
in thee, and in thy seed after thee (that is to say, the literal seed, o=
r
the seed of the body) shall all the families of the earth be blessed, ev=
en
with the blessings of the Gospel, which are the blessings of salvation, =
even
of life eternal.
12 Now, after the Lord had withdrawn from speaking to me, and withdrawn =
his
face from me, I said in my heart: Thy servant has sought thee earnestly;=
now
I have found thee;
13 Thou didst send thine angel to deliver me from the gods of Elkenah, a=
nd I
will do well to hearken unto thy voice, therefore let thy servant rise u=
p
and depart in peace.
14 So I, Abraham, departed as the Lord had said unto me, and Lot with me=
;
and I, Abraham, was sixty and two years old when I departed out of Haran=
..
(Pearl of Great Price | Abraham 2:8 - 14)
23 For I am the Lord thy God, and Jehovah is my name, and I walk not in
crooked paths according to the vagaries and foolish notions of blind
leaders, leading them who be blind; as them of old.
24 For they too had their High Priest, their Elders, and their councils =
and
their courts, and to what did all these things avail them when I the Lor=
d
God came among them in my power?
25 And even as I came to Judah, even so I send that One who is Mighty an=
d
who is Strong unto Ephraim.
26 For he hath been sent, saith the Lord, to wrest the Holy Priesthood a=
fter
the Order of the Son of God from among them, even as John the Baptist wa=
st
sent to wrest the Priesthood after the Order of Aaron from among the Jew=
s,
or them who are Judah and Levi, saith the Lord God of Israel, whom ye kn=
ow
not.
27 For unto Ephraim, the promises, even Zion, but unto Judah, even the J=
ews,
Jerusalem.
28 And these be my two witnesses, saith the Father, for the Father hath
given unto Ephraim even as he hath given unto Judah, and which is greate=
r,
saith the Father of heaven and earth, even unto Judah did I send them mi=
ne
Only Begotten, but Ephraim, I the Father did cause to be scattered, even=
at
this time, that he of whom it should be written from the loins of Joseph=
who
is mighty and strong should come unto them who should also be gathered o=
ut
of the nations of their dispersal which are called European, unto this l=
and,
and the land northward have I the Lord God of Israel reserved from befor=
e
the foundation of the world unto Ephraim, my chosen unto whom belongeth =
the
birthright of Israel, through the loins of Joseph.
29 And that land which is southward, I the Lord God have reserved unto t=
he
descendants of Lehi, according to the promises which I did make unto him=
,
even Manasseh.
30 And thus the promise which I the Lord God did make unto Joseph of old=
is
fulfilled, for I the Lord am no respecter of persons, and Joseph did pre=
vail
above his brethren to the obtaining of like promises as Abraham, my chos=
en.
31 And thus may all come unto the Father of heaven and earth in like man=
ner,
with the faith of Joseph, prevail with me to the obtaining of the promis=
es
as did Abraham.
32 And the land northward, I the Father have given unto him who was migh=
ty
and strong from before the foundation of the world, and his posterity
forever, saith the Lord God of Abraham.
33 And thus the words of Isaiah are fulfilled in the which he spake
concerning all who bore record of the Lord God Omnipotent, but more
particularly he did speak concerning that One Mighty and Strong who shou=
ld
come having words, yea, eternal words, in the which it should be written=
of
him, saith the Lord, How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of hi=
m
that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that sait=
h
unto Zion, thy God reigneth!
34 And the land northward, even the land of the center place have I rese=
rved
unto Ephraim my chosen from before the foundation of the world, and that=
One
who is Mighty and Strong should come also among them that they should ne=
ver
taste of death.
35 For he should come out of Ephraim and thus these two shall stand befo=
re
the God of the whole earth and all dominion shall be given them, even th=
e
sons of God
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"john p" wrote:
His zealoty for the blood atonement and the fact that he is hiding out
in Mexico leads one to ask this question.
Nah, you were just being yourself, a son of perdition --
which observation was confirmed by the Spirit of the Lord
at 9:40 pm, Nov 19, 2007.
Brigham Young:
My constant prayer is that the anger which is in the hearts of the
disobedient will turn upon each other, and the wicked slay the wicked, until
no place can be found on the earth for those who will not observe good laws,
that the righteous may live in peace. The wicked are doing so; and in the
midst of their rage which has been around us, it is astonishing how the
preserving and invisible hand of God has been over his people.
~~Journal of Discourses, Vol.8, Pg.84, June 12, 1860
29 Wherefore, the land of Zion shall not be obtained but by purchase or by
blood, otherwise there is none inheritance for you.
30 And if by purchase, behold you are blessed;
31 And if by blood, as you are forbidden to shed blood, lo, your enemies are
upon you, and ye shall be scourged from city to city, and from synagogue to
synagogue, and but few shall stand to receive an inheritance.
32 I, the Lord, am angry with the wicked; I am holding my Spirit from the
inhabitants of the earth.
33 I have sworn in my wrath, and decreed wars upon the face of the earth,
and the wicked shall slay the wicked, and fear shall come upon every man;
34 And the saints also shall hardly escape; nevertheless, I, the Lord, am
with them, and will come down in heaven from the presence of my Father and
consume the wicked with unquenchable fire.
35 And behold, this is not yet, but by and by.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 63:29 - 35)
For it is that thou also hast denied the Holy Ghost, even as Randy Olson,
that as anciently moves upon Art Bulla, the Lord's anointed in these the
last days.
Mr. Ogden Kraut, Aug. 24, 1981
Dear Ogden,
....
I hold the keys, and get over it O ye disputors, if ye can. The Lord has
also directed that the valleys [of Utah] are no longer a haven from
persecution as they were intended to be for the people who were gathered
here, they have already fulfilled that function. They will now on the
contrary fulfill a different function for the generation now inhabiting
them, that of their destruction. For the generation now inhabiting these
valleys are of quite a different character than those poor Saints fleeing
persecution from their enemies. Hence what was a blessing to one generation,
the Lord turns into a cursing unto another, for he reserves unto himself the
right to do just as he pleases in this regard, ... For all those who are
pure in heart are to be gathered out of these mountains [of Utah], and those
who will not hear shall be destroyed by earthquake in that day. I refer you
to the Revelations (Section 31) which I received in February, 1979, for
which thing my hometeacher [Randy Olson, to whom Art Bulla tried to read the
revelation, by the Lord's commandment] in the Mormon Church tried to kill
me, in which the Lord said, "All your tall buildings will I cause that they
shall tumble to the ground, and the mountains which ye are so fond of, shall
become your enemies . . . that the abominations of this people be covered
.. . ."
~~Teachings of the One Mighty and Strong, pgs. 43,56
13 He professeth to have the knowledge of God: and he calleth himself the
child of the Lord.
14 He was made to reprove our thoughts.
15 He is grievous unto us even to behold: for his life is not like other
men's, his ways are of another fashion.
16 We are esteemed of him as counterfeits: he abstaineth from our ways as
from filthiness: he pronounceth the end of the just to be blessed, and
maketh his boast that God is his father.
(Wisdom of Solomon 2:13-16, the Apocrypha, 1611 KJV)
Also, that he is the ultimate quarterback. The owner (the Father) and the
general manager (the Son); the head coach being the Holy Ghost. Yea, Art
Bulla is greater than Tom Brady. The name of our team is Old Ship Zion, and
we do pour it on.
The Patriots lead by 35 with 2 seconds left. Second and 10 at the
New England 45. Brady's calling signals off a shotgun formation,
rolls right, pump fakes, going left for it downtown -- Touchdown to Moss!
55 yards of perfect execution!
(October 30, 2007, alt.religion.mormon)
November 4, 2007
INDIANAPOLIS (AP) -- No running up the score this week. Against the Colts,
Tom Brady was content to close out another victory for the New England
Patriots by kneeling down three times.
....
New England trailed 20-10 after Manning, who threw for 225 yards and a
touchdown, scored on a 1-yard sneak with 9 minutes and 42 seconds left in
the game, and the crowd roaring.
But on a second-and-10 from the Patriots 42, Brady hit Randy Moss over the
top for 55 yards to the Colts 3 on a play in which Indy lost Bob Sanders,
its best defensive back to injury. That set up a 3-yard TD pass to Wes
Welker.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap?gid=20071104011
(Seems to be a coincidence, because I just randomly chose the numbers,
but if it was a prophecy, all glory to God for on my own I am average at
best, most of the time a fool. The Spirit of the Lord bears record for the
second time at 8:46 am, this morning of Nov 15, 2007, concerning this
strange coincidence -- this Pats-Colts Gentile sporting contest. Amen.)
21 In the law it is written, With [men of] other tongues and other lips will
I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith
the Lord.
22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them
that believe not: but prophesying [serveth] not for them that believe not,
but for them which believe.
(New Testament | 1 Corinthians 14:21 - 22)
196 For behold, my servants the prophets see in part and know in part, but
mine angels, saith the Lord, see face to face and thereby know much that is
truth, for they behold my glory.
Revelations of Jesus Christ 2:196
19 From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by
morning shall it pass over, by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation
only [to] understand the report.
20 For the bed is shorter than that [a man] can stretch himself [on it]: and
the covering narrower than that he can wrap himself [in it].
21 For the LORD shall rise up as [in] mount Perazim, he shall be wroth as
[in] the valley of Gibeon, that he may do his work, his strange work; and
bring to pass his act, his strange act.
22 Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I
have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts a consumption, even determined upon
the whole earth.
(Old Testament | Isaiah 28:19 - 22)
9 For in that day, for my sake shall the Father work a work, which shall be
a great and a marvelous work among them; and there shall be among them those
who will not believe it, although a man shall declare it unto them.
10 But behold, the life of my servant shall be in my hand; therefore they
shall not hurt him, although he shall be marred because of them. Yet I will
heal him, for I will show unto them that my wisdom is greater than the
cunning of the devil.
11 Therefore it shall come to pass that whosoever will not believe in my
words, who am Jesus Christ, which the Father shall cause him to bring forth
unto the Gentiles, and shall give unto him power that he shall bring them
forth unto the Gentiles, (it shall be done even as Moses said) they shall be
cut off from among my people who are of the covenant.
(Book of Mormon | 3 Nephi 21:9 - 11)
Yea, thou art cut off, saith the Lord.
(1:41 am, Nov 19, 2007)
But the Prophet Art Bulla, is he not greater than Larry Bird?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedric_Maxwell
Maxwell, in addition to being a dangerous scorer and a colorful character,
was a clutch performer in the playoffs. Despite being overshadowed by such
stars as Larry Bird, Kevin McHale, and Robert Parish, Maxwell was named MVP
of the 1981 NBA Finals. Three years later, Maxwell scored 24 points against
the Los Angeles Lakers in the decisive game-seven victory during the 1984
NBA Finals. Before the game, he told his teammates to "climb on my back,
boys." Maxwell's colorful side was also on display in the series as he
mocked second-year Laker forward James Worthy's inability to make free
throws during overtime of game 4 by walking across the lane between free
throws with his hands around his own neck, suggesting Worthy's choking under
pressure.
4 Thou art my King, O God: command deliverances for Jacob.
5 Through thee will we push down our enemies: through thy name will we tread
them under that rise up against us.
6 For I will not trust in my bow, neither shall my sword save me.
7 But thou hast saved us from our enemies, and hast put them to shame that
hated us.
8 In God we boast all the day long, and praise thy name for ever. Selah.
(Old Testament | Psalms 44:4 - 8)
21 Let no man break the laws of the land, for he that keepeth the laws of
God hath no need to break the laws of the land.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 58:21)
Why are you all the sudden removing the alt.atheism from the subject--
you have no problem spamming them with all you B.S. normally?
Oh wait that is your brother. Are you back to following Artie? Art has
TWO followers again!?
Talking B.S. about the Lord's anointed Art Bulla gets you an one way ticket
to the lake of fire. What happened to them that fought against Moses? See,
call me a gook or chink, that's no big deal, since that's NOT about denying
the Holy Ghost.
Brigham Young:
I say to the whole world, receive the truth, no matter who presents it to
you.
~~Journal of Discourses, Vol.16, Pg.46, May 18, 1873
But to deny the Spirit of God moving upon Art or me is unpardonable, if you
persist therein (and you do).
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13 And behold, he that is faithful shall be made ruler over many things.
14 And again, I will give unto you a pattern in all things, that ye may not
be deceived; for Satan is abroad in the land, and he goeth forth deceiving
the nations-
15 Wherefore he that prayeth, whose spirit is contrite, the same is accepted
of me if he obey mine ordinances.
16 He that speaketh, whose spirit is contrite, whose language is meek and
edifieth, the same is of God if he obey mine ordinances.
17 And again, he that trembleth under my power shall be made strong, and
shall bring forth fruits of praise and wisdom, according to the revelations
and truths which I have given you.
18 And again, he that is overcome and bringeth not forth fruits, even
according to this pattern, is not of me.
19 Wherefore, by this pattern ye shall know the spirits in all cases under
the whole heavens.
20 And the days have come; according to men's faith it shall be done unto
them.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 52:13 - 20)
.... Be gracious to this my son; and preserve him, and keep him from
everything that is evil. Give him a happy life, and the possession of as
many good things as your power is able to bestow. Make him terrible to
his enemies, and honorable and beloved among his friends!" Thus did
Isaac pray to God, ...
~~Josephus (Antiquities of the Jews)
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
(New Testament | Matthew 7:20)
Brigham Young:
Take a family of ten children, for instance, and you may find nine of them
purely of the Gentile stock, and one son or one daughter in that family who
is purely of the Blood of Ephraim. It was in the veins of the father or
mother, and was reproduced in the son or daughter, while all the rest of the
family are Gentiles. You may think that is singular, but it is true. It is
the house of Israel we are after, and we care not whether they come from the
east, the west, the north, or the south; from China, Russia, England,
California, North or South America, or some other locality; and it is the
very lad on whom father Jacob laid his hands, that will save the house of
Israel. The Book of Mormon came to Ephraim, for Joseph Smith was a pure
Ephraimite, and the Book of Mormon was revealed to him, and while he lived
he made it his business to search for those who believed the Gospel.
~~Journal of Discourses, Vol.2, Pg.268 - Pg.269, April 8, 1855
16 But unto the wicked God saith, What hast thou to do to declare my
statutes, or [that] thou shouldest take my covenant in thy mouth?
17 Seeing thou hatest instruction, and castest my words behind thee.
18 When thou sawest a thief, then thou consentedst with him, and hast been
partaker with adulterers.
19 Thou givest thy mouth to evil, and thy tongue frameth deceit.
20 Thou sittest [and] speakest against thy brother; thou slanderest thine
own mother's son.
21 These [things] hast thou done, and I kept silence; thou thoughtest that I
was altogether [such an one] as thyself: [but] I will reprove thee, and set
[them] in order before thine eyes.
22 Now consider this, ye that forget God, lest I tear [you] in pieces, and
[there be] none to deliver.
23 Whoso offereth praise glorifieth me: and to him that ordereth [his]
conversation [aright] will I shew the salvation of God.
(Old Testament | Psalms 50:16 - 23)
95 That I may proceed to bring to pass my act, my strange act, and perform
my work, my strange work, that men may discern between the righteous and the
wicked, saith your God.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 101:95)
9 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce
anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof
out of it.
10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give
their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon
shall not cause her light to shine.
11 And I will punish the world for [their] evil, and the wicked for their
iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay
low the haughtiness of the terrible.
12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the
golden wedge of Ophir.
(Old Testament | Isaiah 13:9 - 12)
Brigham Young:
You can believe it or not, but the time is coming when a good man will be
more precious than fine gold.
~~Journal of Discourses, Vol.10, Pg.295, May 15, 1864
12 I will make a man more precious than fine gold; even a man than the
golden wedge of Ophir.
13 Therefore, I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of
her place, in the wrath of the Lord of Hosts, and in the day of his fierce
anger.
(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 23:12 - 13)
56 And the graves of the saints shall be opened; and they shall come forth
and stand on the right hand of the Lamb, when he shall stand upon Mount
Zion, and upon the holy city, the New Jerusalem; and they shall sing the
song of the Lamb, day and night forever and ever.
57 And for this cause, that men might be made partakers of the glories which
were to be revealed, the Lord sent forth the fulness of his gospel, his
everlasting covenant, reasoning in plainness and simplicity-
58 To prepare the weak for those things which are coming on the earth, and
for the Lord's errand in the day when the weak shall confound the wise, and
the little one become a strong nation, and two shall put their tens of
thousands to flight.
59 And by the weak things of the earth the Lord shall thrash the nations by
the power of his Spirit.
60 And for this cause these commandments were given; they were commanded to
be kept from the world in the day that they were given, but now are to go
forth unto all flesh-
61 And this according to the mind and will of the Lord, who ruleth over all
flesh.
62 And unto him that repenteth and sanctifieth himself before the Lord shall
be given eternal life.
63 And upon them that hearken not to the voice of the Lord shall be
fulfilled that which was written by the prophet Moses, that they should be
cut off from among the people.
64 And also that which was written by the prophet Malachi: For, behold, the
day cometh that shall burn as an oven, and all the proud, yea, and all that
do wickedly, shall be stubble; and the day that cometh shall burn them up,
saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
65 Wherefore, this shall be the answer of the Lord unto them:
66 In that day when I came unto mine own, no man among you received me, and
you were driven out.
67 When I called again there was none of you to answer; yet my arm was not
shortened at all that I could not redeem, neither my power to deliver.
68 Behold, at my rebuke I dry up the sea. I make the rivers a wilderness;
their fish stink, and die for thirst.
69 I clothe the heavens with blackness, and make sackcloth their covering.
70 And this shall ye have of my hand-ye shall lie down in sorrow.
71 Behold, and lo, there are none to deliver you; for ye obeyed not my voice
when I called to you out of the heavens; ye believed not my servants, and
when they were sent unto you ye received them not.
72 Wherefore, they sealed up the testimony and bound up the law, and ye were
delivered over unto darkness.
73 These shall go away into outer darkness, where there is weeping, and
wailing, and gnashing of teeth.
74 Behold the Lord your God hath spoken it. Amen.
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 133:56 - 74)
Good for you Jong, my brother and friend, saith the Lord.
Jong, friend of God.
~~A revelation of Jesus Christ received by
Art Bulla the One Mighty and Strong
(Jan 18, 2005, alt.religion.mormon)
19 For I delight to honor those who honor me and will bless with a multitude
of blessings those who hearken unto my precepts, and harden not their hearts
against me and the teachings of my servants whom I have sent forth in this
last day to prove the world of their deeds that their blood shall be
requited upon even their own heads, saith the Lord God of Noah.
Revelations of Jesus Christ 27:19
8 My name is Jehovah, and I know the end from the beginning; therefore my
hand shall be over thee.
9 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee above
measure, and make thy name great among all nations, and thou shalt be a
blessing unto thy seed after thee, that in their hands they shall bear this
ministry and Priesthood unto all nations;
10 And I will bless them through thy name; for as many as receive this
Gospel shall be called after thy name, and shall be accounted thy seed, and
shall rise up and bless thee, as their father;
11 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse them that curse thee;
and in thee (that is, in thy Priesthood) and in thy seed (that is, thy
Priesthood), for I give unto thee a promise that this right shall continue
in thee, and in thy seed after thee (that is to say, the literal seed, or
the seed of the body) shall all the families of the earth be blessed, even
with the blessings of the Gospel, which are the blessings of salvation, even
of life eternal.
12 Now, after the Lord had withdrawn from speaking to me, and withdrawn his
face from me, I said in my heart: Thy servant has sought thee earnestly; now
I have found thee;
(Pearl of Great Price | Abraham 2:8 - 12)
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac
his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made
perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it
was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
(New Testament | James 2:21 - 23)
Brigham Young:
Can a man be exalted upon any other principle? When men are left to
themselves, it is then they manifest their integrity, by saying and feeling,
"I am the friend of God." Do all people realize that? If they did, let me
tell you, they would cling fast to their integrity. When the mind of a
righteous man is beclouded by darkness, when he does not know the first
thing about the religion he believes in, it is because the vail is dropped
so that he may act on the organization of his own individual person, which
is calculated to be as independent as the Gods, in the end. When you are
fully aware of this, then you are ready to lay down your lives for the cause
of God and for His people, if you act on your own integrity and philosophy.
~~Journal of Discourses, Vol.4, Pg.199, February 1, 1857
35 And ye shall be tried even as was Abraham and Sarah in these things;
for, saith the Lord, how can ye receive of their reward save it be by my
law?
Revelations of Jesus Christ 1:35
3 And he hath put a new song in my mouth, [even] praise unto our God: many
shall see [it], and fear, and shall trust in the LORD.
4 Blessed [is] that man that maketh the LORD his trust, and respecteth not
the proud, nor such as turn aside to lies.
5 Many, O LORD my God, [are] thy wonderful works [which] thou hast done, and
thy thoughts [which are] to us-ward: they cannot be reckoned up in order
unto thee: [if] I would declare and speak [of them], they are more than can
be numbered.
6 Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened:
burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required.
7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book [it is] written of me,
8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law [is] within my heart.
9 I have preached righteousness in the great congregation: lo, I have not
refrained my lips, O LORD, thou knowest.
10 I have not hid thy righteousness within my heart; I have declared thy
faithfulness and thy salvation: I have not concealed thy lovingkindness and
thy truth from the great congregation.
(Old Testament | Psalms 40:3 - 10)
"john p" wrote:
Is that a no? I'll take his word for it. I am just curious based on
what he has said about the blood atonement.
2 ¶ If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy
God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of
the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant,
3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun,
or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;
4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard [of it], and enquired diligently,
and, behold, [it be] true, [and] the thing certain, [that] such abomination
is wrought in Israel:
5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed
that wicked thing, unto thy gates, [even] that man or that woman, and shalt
stone them with stones, till they die.
6 At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he that is worthy
of death be put to death; [but] at the mouth of one witness he shall not be
put to death.
7 The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death,
and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away
from among you.
(Old Testament | Deuteronomy 17:2 - 7)
8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
(New Testament | Hebrews 13:8)
"Jong Kim" wrote:
"john p" wrote:
Art you ever kill anyone?
34 Wo unto the liar, for he shall be thrust down to hell.
(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 9:34)
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20 Nov 2007 06:03:37 PM |
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Jong Kim wrote:
"john p" wrote:
His zealoty for the blood atonement and the fact that he is hiding out
in Mexico leads one to ask this question.
Nah, you were just being yourself, a son of perdition --
which observation was confirmed by the Spirit of the Lord
at 9:40 pm, Nov 19, 2007.
Hmmmmm, nope. Your spells and incantations still are not working here.
Why don't your try typing them into the computer using your nose. Maybe
that will help make them work better.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.secularity.com/ktayloraz
A.A #1143 http://azhotops.blogspot.com/
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| Title: Re: Art Bulla Murderer? Mormons Blood Atonement |
20 Nov 2007 10:22:37 AM |
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On Nov 20, 7:17 am, "Jong Kim" <rh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"john p" wrote:
His zealoty for the blood atonement and the fact that he is hiding out
in Mexico leads one to ask this question.
Nah, you were just being yourself, a son of perdition --
which observation was confirmed by the Spirit of the Lord
at 9:40 pm, Nov 19, 2007.
Brigham Young:
My constant prayer <snip religious drivel>
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