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http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=19698
WASHINGTON - People of faith have role to play in the ongoing debate over
climate change, said members of a panel convened to discuss religious
perspectives on environmental stewardship.
"You don't need to know everything (about climate change) to know that harm
is being done," said John Carr, secretary of the U.S. bishops' Department of
Social Development and World Peace at the May 2 forum, hosted by the Center
for American Progress.
With that in mind, Carr added, the virtue of prudence comes into play. More
than merely cautioning against doing something, he said, "when things are
getting worse, you ought to do something to keep it from getting worse and
worse." Carr added he lamented the current polarization in Washington that
makes effective action on climate change difficult.
The Rev. Richard Cizik, head of the National Association of Evangelicals,
lamented a lack of attention on the climate issue from the pulpit. "I'm
still waiting for the first person in a focus group to say they've even
heard a pastor preaching on this," he said.
Rev. Cizik said political stewardship, like environmental stewardship, has a
biblical grounding. "The strategy is to hold political leaders accountable,"
he added, citing Jesus' reply to Pontius Pilate. Jesus said: "You would have
no power over me if it had not been given to you from above."
If conserving natural resources makes one a conservative, then "I am a
conservative," Rev. Cizik said. As for those who disregard the environment,
he added, "their inattention to these ideals make them liberals."
Dominican Sister Patricia Daly, executive director of the Tri-State
Coalition for Responsible Investment, a group of 35 Catholic dioceses and
religious orders in the New York metropolitan area, said most corporate
leaders want to do the right thing when it comes to environmental care.
"Some of the faith communities have tended to demonize the corporations,"
she added.
On the same date as the panel presentation, the federal Climate Change
Science Program issued a report stating that the lower atmosphere was
growing warmer and that there was "clear evidence of human influences on the
climate system." The study added the only factor that could explain the
measured warming of the earth's average temperature over the last 50 years
was the buildup of heat-trapping gases, which are mainly emitted by burning
coal and oil.
The report was the first of 21 commissioned by the White House to study
questions related to climate change.
Chapter 22, verse 8, of Deuteronomy prescribes: "When you build a new house,
put a parapet around the roof; otherwise, if someone falls off, you will
bring blood-guilt upon your house," noted Rabbi Daniel Swartz, coordinator
for Greater Washington Interfaith Power and Light, which seeks to educate
religious institutions on the social justice and ethical dimensions of
energy use.
"It says prevent them (accidents) in the first place, because once they've
fallen off that roof, it's too late," said Rabbi Swartz at the forum,
drawing a parallel to the effects of today's energy usage.
Care for the environment has often been seen as laudable but not a mandate.
"I was sympathetic but not engaged" about the issue, Carr said. Eventually,
though, Pope John Paul II said that "the environment and care of creation
was a moral and ethical challenge," he noted. Cardinal Roger M. Mahony of
Los Angeles, then chairman of the bishops' domestic policy committee, shared
this view, Carr added.
"When the pope says something's a priority, and the cardinal who chairs your
committee agrees, you do something," he said.
"I was neither sympathetic nor engaged," Rev. Cizik said, until he attended
an Oxford University symposium on climate change. He went expecting not to
have his mind changed, but much to his surprise, he did change his mind.
"The preponderance of the evidence leaned on one side four years ago," he
added. "I'm even more convinced today."
Challenged by one audience member at the forum to practice what they preach,
Sister Patricia said her motherhouse in Caldwell, N.J., in late April had a
blessing ceremony for the institution's new solar energy panels.
With its 646 panels, the facility is "the largest private one in the state"
to have solar, "as of last week," she said.
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J Young
youngopinions@aol.com
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| User: "Geoff" |
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09 May 2006 04:02:12 PM |
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<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=19698
WASHINGTON - People of faith have role to play in the ongoing debate over
climate change, said members of a panel convened to discuss religious
perspectives on environmental stewardship.
The Republicans won't listen to scientists. I guess it's worth a shot.
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: As climate change issue heats up, religious officials say faith has role in debate |
09 May 2006 10:10:33 PM |
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Geoff wrote:
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:YsadnerIWf8qbv3ZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=19698
WASHINGTON - People of faith have role to play in the ongoing debate over
climate change, said members of a panel convened to discuss religious
perspectives on environmental stewardship.
The Republicans won't listen to scientists. I guess it's worth a shot.
"Republicans"
Meaning all Republicans?
Meaning some Republicans?
Meaning most Republicans?
Meaning a small minority of Republicans?
You need to be specific. Your statement is full of error. As a person
who was once registered as Republican, I can tell you that not only
myself but many other Republicans do listen to scientist.
So you have the opportunity to change your statement and correct your
error.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: As climate change issue heats up, religious officials say faith has role in debate |
10 May 2006 12:21:22 PM |
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In article <1147230632.974546.60260@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Geoff wrote:
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:YsadnerIWf8qbv3ZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=19698
WASHINGTON - People of faith have role to play in the ongoing debate over
climate change, said members of a panel convened to discuss religious
perspectives on environmental stewardship.
The Republicans won't listen to scientists. I guess it's worth a shot.
"Republicans"
Meaning all Republicans?
Meaning some Republicans?
Meaning most Republicans?
Meaning a small minority of Republicans?
You need to be specific. Your statement is full of error. As a person
who was once registered as Republican, I can tell you that not only
myself but many other Republicans do listen to scientist.
So you have the opportunity to change your statement and correct your
error.
your response validated his statement.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: As climate change issue heats up, religious officials say faith has role in debate |
10 May 2006 12:56:03 AM |
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Geoff wrote:
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:YsadnerIWf8qbv3ZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=19698
WASHINGTON - People of faith have role to play in the ongoing debate over
climate change, said members of a panel convened to discuss religious
perspectives on environmental stewardship.
The Republicans won't listen to scientists. I guess it's worth a shot.
"Republicans"
Meaning all Republicans?
Meaning some Republicans?
Meaning most Republicans?
Meaning a small minority of Republicans?
You need to be specific.
You need to learn basic English.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Pr0r3p" |
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| Title: Re: As climate change issue heats up, religious officials say faith has role in debate |
10 May 2006 07:52:16 AM |
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osprey wrote:
Geoff wrote:
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:YsadnerIWf8qbv3ZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=19698
WASHINGTON - People of faith have role to play in the ongoing debate over
climate change, said members of a panel convened to discuss religious
perspectives on environmental stewardship.
The Republicans won't listen to scientists. I guess it's worth a shot.
"Republicans"
Meaning all Republicans?
Meaning some Republicans?
Meaning most Republicans?
Meaning a small minority of Republicans?
You need to be specific. Your statement is full of error. As a person
who was once registered as Republican, I can tell you that not only
myself but many other Republicans do listen to scientist.
So you have the opportunity to change your statement and correct your
error.
And, you've had years to correct yours. Good thing no one is holding
their breath.
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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| Title: Re: As climate change issue heats up, religious officials say faith has role in debate |
09 May 2006 10:03:36 PM |
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wrote:
http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=19698
WASHINGTON - People of faith have role to play in the ongoing debate over
climate change, said members of a panel convened to discuss religious
perspectives on environmental stewardship.
"You don't need to know everything (about climate change) to know that
harm is being done," said John Carr, secretary of the U.S. bishops'
Department of Social Development and World Peace at the May 2 forum,
hosted by the Center for American Progress.
With that in mind, Carr added, the virtue of prudence comes into play.
More than merely cautioning against doing something, he said, "when things
are getting worse, you ought to do something to keep it from getting worse
and worse." Carr added he lamented the current polarization in Washington
that makes effective action on climate change difficult.
The Rev. Richard Cizik, head of the National Association of Evangelicals,
lamented a lack of attention on the climate issue from the pulpit. "I'm
still waiting for the first person in a focus group to say they've even
heard a pastor preaching on this," he said.
I have in the past heard much ranting and raving about enviromentalism by
evangelicals. Marlin Maddoux who used to have a radio talk show often
invited Evanglelical writers to speak on the subject and to prove
enviromentalism was a liberal, satanic, new age plot.
Maddoux occasiaoonly would spend a week on the subject with a steady parade
of insanem blatering morons ranting and raving like this.
If Cizik ever listened to religious kook radio, this sort of fevered
anti-enviromentalism was not exactly rare.
I suspect that more than a little of this did indeed in past get preached by
jaked-legged ignorant evangelical preachgers in their churches.
What little I have heard over two decades from more mainstream evangelicals
mirrored the deeply ignorant anti-enviromentalism of the GOP far right.
Rush Limbaugh type crap. Pat Robertson, Dobson and other major
evangelicals have never been anything but anti-enviromentalist.
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"Just because you don't take an interest in politics
doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you."
- Pericles
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "jcon" |
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| Title: Re: As climate change issue heats up, religious officials say faith has role in debate |
09 May 2006 03:52:57 PM |
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wrote:
http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=19698
WASHINGTON - People of faith have role to play in the ongoing debate over
climate change, said members of a panel convened to discuss religious
perspectives on environmental stewardship.
"You don't need to know everything (about climate change) to know that harm
is being done," said John Carr, secretary of the U.S. bishops' Department of
Social Development and World Peace at the May 2 forum, hosted by the Center
for American Progress.
With that in mind, Carr added, the virtue of prudence comes into play. More
than merely cautioning against doing something, he said, "when things are
getting worse, you ought to do something to keep it from getting worse and
worse." Carr added he lamented the current polarization in Washington that
makes effective action on climate change difficult.
The Rev. Richard Cizik, head of the National Association of Evangelicals,
lamented a lack of attention on the climate issue from the pulpit. "I'm
still waiting for the first person in a focus group to say they've even
heard a pastor preaching on this," he said.
Rev. Cizik said political stewardship, like environmental stewardship, has a
biblical grounding. "The strategy is to hold political leaders accountable,"
he added, citing Jesus' reply to Pontius Pilate. Jesus said: "You would have
no power over me if it had not been given to you from above."
If conserving natural resources makes one a conservative, then "I am a
conservative,"
Being a conservative has *never* meant conserving natural
resources. It used to mean conserving money, but Reagan
officially changed that rule. If you want to conserve either
of those things, you are now branded a "liberal".
I believe that these days the only things that "conservatives"
want to "conserve" are 18th century interpretations of
the Bible and the number of gender combinations that
can marry.
-jc
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: As climate change issue heats up, religious officials say faith has role in debate |
09 May 2006 03:59:08 PM |
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On Tue, 9 May 2006 15:55:40 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<YsadnerIWf8qbv3ZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
More off topic religious propagandizing.
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| User: "james g. keegan jr." |
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| Title: Re: As climate change issue heats up, religious officials say faith has role in debate |
09 May 2006 04:35:47 PM |
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In article <fk02621f7sctjjvetv8atldj9t2dfcnadi@4ax.com>,
Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
On Tue, 9 May 2006 15:55:40 -0400, <youngopinions@aol.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id
<YsadnerIWf8qbv3ZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@giganews.com> wrote:
More off topic religious propagandizing.
you continue to demonstrate your ignorance of usenet newsgroups,
scumball, and your disrespect for readers' ability to decide for
themselves what is and is not appropriate.
do you feel like a hypocrite criticizing others for doing what you
do? even osprey has legitimately commented on your hypocrisy.
your hypocrisy aside, what you might want to do to make yourself feel
like an even bigger ***** is take a random sample of posts you've
whined about and then search google for the number of posts with this
topic, demonstrating that readers know what is of interest to them
far better than you do.
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: As climate change issue heats up, religious officials say faith has role in debate |
09 May 2006 03:27:29 PM |
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Why are you posting this to a discussion group called "alt.atheism"? To
tease us or simply to prove once again how dumb you are?
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: As climate change issue heats up, religious officials say faith has role in debate |
12 May 2006 11:04:24 PM |
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"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147206449.459503.8040@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
Why are you posting this to a discussion group called "alt.atheism"? To
tease us or simply to prove once again how dumb you are?
Yang has been a member of alt.atheism for far
longer (years) than you. Just who do you think
you are to speak for all of us? And, why are you
posting this all over the place outside of
alt.atheism? Also, why aren't you posting what
you are replying to? All you seem to do is attack-
like a troll...
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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13 May 2006 10:51:18 PM |
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Previously, on alt.atheism, Michelle Malkin in episode
<LYidnZ88559bx_jZRVn-ig@comcast.com>...
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147206449.459503.8040@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
Why are you posting this to a discussion group called "alt.atheism"? To
tease us or simply to prove once again how dumb you are?
Yang has been a member of alt.atheism for far longer (years) than you.
Just who do you think you are to speak for all of us? And, why are you
posting this all over the place outside of alt.atheism? Also, why aren't
you posting what you are replying to? All you seem to do is attack- like a
troll...
I think he was replying to Young, not Yang...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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