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17 Jun 2005 11:27:31 PM |
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As Our Liberties Fade Before Our Eyes... |
http://www.gophypocrites.com/2005/06/hyp05025.html
This ***** has no right to any position of power. His misuse
of it is proof of this.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: As Our Liberties Fade Before Our Eyes... |
18 Jun 2005 09:17:56 AM |
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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
news:wuCdneCvP54wPy7fRVn-iA@comcast.com:
http://www.gophypocrites.com/2005/06/hyp05025.html
This ***** has no right to any position of power. His misuse
of it is proof of this.
Yeah right, the hypocrites in the Democratic party tried to hijack a
Congressional hearing and now they whine because they weren't all allowed
to grandstand and posture and call "witnesses" who had *nothing* to do with
the actual purpose of the hearing.
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: As Our Liberties Fade Before Our Eyes... |
18 Jun 2005 11:21:57 AM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1119104276.68891f0e5a0d38443c4f308a26b727c4@teranews...
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
news:wuCdneCvP54wPy7fRVn-iA@comcast.com:
http://www.gophypocrites.com/2005/06/hyp05025.html
This ***** has no right to any position of power. His misuse
of it is proof of this.
Yeah right, the hypocrites in the Democratic party tried to hijack a
Congressional hearing and now they whine because they weren't all allowed
to grandstand and posture and call "witnesses" who had *nothing* to do
with
the actual purpose of the hearing.
We already know your position, Fred. You don't have to post.
Actually, we'd prefer you didn't.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: As Our Liberties Fade Before Our Eyes... |
18 Jun 2005 11:55:47 AM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
news:GJqdnQnl_pe91ynfRVn-oQ@io.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1119104276.68891f0e5a0d38443c4f308a26b727c4@teranews...
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
news:wuCdneCvP54wPy7fRVn-iA@comcast.com:
http://www.gophypocrites.com/2005/06/hyp05025.html
This ***** has no right to any position of power. His misuse
of it is proof of this.
Yeah right, the hypocrites in the Democratic party tried to hijack a
Congressional hearing and now they whine because they weren't all
allowed to grandstand and posture and call "witnesses" who had
*nothing* to do with the actual purpose of the hearing.
We already know your position, Fred. You don't have to post.
If you know it so well, why don't you think about it before you post?
Actually, we'd prefer you didn't.
No doubt you'd like to have your little liberal echo chamber all to
yourselves, so you wouldn't have to ever confront anything that
contradicts your shallow little narrowminded viewpoint.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "Tak" |
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| Title: Re: As Our Liberties Fade Before Our Eyes... |
18 Jun 2005 01:36:36 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:55:47 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
No doubt you'd like to have your little liberal echo chamber all to
yourselves, so you wouldn't have to ever confront anything that
contradicts your shallow little narrowminded viewpoint.
You mean you don't live in George Bush's "christian nation"
Isnt being an atheist republican these days like being a christian
scientist with appendicitis?
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| User: "In The World Before Clayton, Primal Chaos Reigned!" |
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| Title: Re: As Our Liberties Fade Before Our Eyes... |
18 Jun 2005 07:04:49 PM |
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"Tak" <null@null.com> wrote in message
news:99q8b1luscs1edeaitnh9904dimn62s4tp@4ax.com...
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:55:47 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
No doubt you'd like to have your little liberal echo chamber all to
yourselves, so you wouldn't have to ever confront anything that
contradicts your shallow little narrowminded viewpoint.
You mean you don't live in George Bush's "christian nation"
Isnt being an atheist republican these days like being a christian
scientist with appendicitis?
Fred Stone is a fundamentalist Christian who just happens not to believe in
God! Doesn't make sense? Neither does he!
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: As Our Liberties Fade Before Our Eyes... |
18 Jun 2005 04:03:58 PM |
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Tak <null@null.com> wrote in news:99q8b1luscs1edeaitnh9904dimn62s4tp@
4ax.com:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:55:47 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
No doubt you'd like to have your little liberal echo chamber all to
yourselves, so you wouldn't have to ever confront anything that
contradicts your shallow little narrowminded viewpoint.
You mean you don't live in George Bush's "christian nation"
No, I don't. I live in the USA.
Isnt being an atheist republican these days like being a christian
scientist with appendicitis?
Not really. I don't have to agree with everything the Reps say in order
to support them on a strong foreign policy and an aggressive approach to
international terrorism.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: As Our Liberties Fade Before Our Eyes... |
18 Jun 2005 05:48:14 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1119128641.aa5ab5bf7739286fb1ce1bbbceeea3e3@teranews...
Tak <null@null.com> wrote in news:99q8b1luscs1edeaitnh9904dimn62s4tp@
4ax.com:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:55:47 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
No doubt you'd like to have your little liberal echo chamber all to
yourselves, so you wouldn't have to ever confront anything that
contradicts your shallow little narrowminded viewpoint.
You mean you don't live in George Bush's "christian nation"
No, I don't. I live in the USA.
Isnt being an atheist republican these days like being a christian
scientist with appendicitis?
Not really. I don't have to agree with everything the Reps say in order
to support them on a strong foreign policy and an aggressive approach to
international terrorism.
Well, I do have to admit, the USA is sure getting good at international
terrorism.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: As Our Liberties Fade Before Our Eyes... |
18 Jun 2005 08:07:49 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in
news:zbadnWrxifs6OSnfRVn-tg@io.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:1119128641.aa5ab5bf7739286fb1ce1bbbceeea3e3@teranews...
Tak <null@null.com> wrote in news:99q8b1luscs1edeaitnh9904dimn62s4tp@
4ax.com:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:55:47 GMT, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
No doubt you'd like to have your little liberal echo chamber all to
yourselves, so you wouldn't have to ever confront anything that
contradicts your shallow little narrowminded viewpoint.
You mean you don't live in George Bush's "christian nation"
No, I don't. I live in the USA.
Isnt being an atheist republican these days like being a christian
scientist with appendicitis?
Not really. I don't have to agree with everything the Reps say in
order to support them on a strong foreign policy and an aggressive
approach to international terrorism.
Well, I do have to admit, the USA is sure getting good at
international terrorism.
That's almost funny, you know? If the USA decided to get into doing
international terrorism, instead of trying to defeat it, we could have
the entire world in flames from pole to pole. We would be the mideast's
worst nightmare. Al Qaeda is small potatoes compared to what the US
Marines could do as insurgents.
And don't let the quotes floating around about how we can't defeat the
insurgents militarily fool you. We know that they must ultimately be
defeated politically.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "Niels van der Linden" |
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18 Jun 2005 05:23:10 PM |
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Isnt being an atheist republican these days like being a christian
scientist with appendicitis?
Not really. I don't have to agree with everything the Reps say in order
to support them on a strong foreign policy and an aggressive approach to
international terrorism.
Have you ever thought about the fact that the thing they are doing is 100%
killing off something that threatens them and is 0% looking for and
understanding the reason what the actual causes of the multitude of problems
are?
Do you think a sane person would fly himself into a building, or act out any
kind of suicide-mission? The answer is: no. These people are driven into
insanity, and the sad part is that Christians are just as bad:
http://www.simonyi.ox.ac.uk/dawkins/WorldOfDawkins-archive/Dawkins/Work/Articles/1993-summervirusesofmind.shtml
The difference between Europe and the U.S. is that one of them is/has a
degree more fundamental/literal/patriotic swing to it.
You didn't think that these two were a recipe for high times, did you?
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/int/long.html
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/cruelty/long.html
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/int/long.html
In my opinion, a recipe for peace is such:
Education on:
1. Evolution
2. Myth-creation, including full historical facts on relevant religions
3. Virusses of the mind
These things could have a nice place as mandatory school-topics (and
immigrants?).
But as long as people think "there is no invisible pixie like invisible
pixie and it is invisible pixie", problems are around the corner.
Niels
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: As Our Liberties Fade Before Our Eyes... |
22 Jun 2005 06:34:37 AM |
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"Niels van der Linden" <n.f.l.vanderlinden@student.utwente.nl> wrote in
news:d926nt$oo0$1@netlx020.civ.utwente.nl:
Isnt being an atheist republican these days like being a christian
scientist with appendicitis?
Not really. I don't have to agree with everything the Reps say in
order to support them on a strong foreign policy and an aggressive
approach to international terrorism.
Have you ever thought about the fact that the thing they are doing is
100% killing off something that threatens them and is 0% looking for
and understanding the reason what the actual causes of the multitude
of problems are?
I don't see it that way.
Do you think a sane person would fly himself into a building, or act
out any kind of suicide-mission? The answer is: no. These people are
driven into insanity, and the sad part is that Christians are just as
bad:
http://www.simonyi.ox.ac.uk/dawkins/WorldOfDawkins-
archive/Dawkins/Work
/Articles/1993-summervirusesofmind.shtml
Just as bad? I'm can't see that being preached at, even in the public
schools, is as bad as being murdered for criticizing Islam or being a
woman who has been raped. And the Europeans are passing laws to make it
illegal to criticize Islam!
The difference between Europe and the U.S. is that one of them is/has
a degree more fundamental/literal/patriotic swing to it.
On the flip side is that Europe, while more secular than the US, has
developed tolerance to the point of utter complacency as their culture
is subverted by immigrants who do not share that attitude of peaceful
coexistence with other beliefs.
You didn't think that these two were a recipe for high times, did you?
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/int/long.html
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/cruelty/long.html
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/int/long.html
In my opinion, a recipe for peace is such:
Education on:
1. Evolution
2. Myth-creation, including full historical facts on relevant
religions 3. Virusses of the mind
These things could have a nice place as mandatory school-topics (and
immigrants?).
But as long as people think "there is no invisible pixie like
invisible pixie and it is invisible pixie", problems are around the
corner.
That is true, but I'd have to say that Christians passed that corner a
long time ago and have grown able to tolerate each other fairly well;
Muslims are still hanging around the corner, mugging tourists and
starting fights with the pedestrians. ;-)
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "Niels van der Linden" |
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| Title: Re: As Our Liberties Fade Before Our Eyes... |
22 Jun 2005 07:29:39 AM |
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Isnt being an atheist republican these days like being a christian
scientist with appendicitis?
Not really. I don't have to agree with everything the Reps say in
order to support them on a strong foreign policy and an aggressive
approach to international terrorism.
Have you ever thought about the fact that the thing they are doing is
100% killing off something that threatens them and is 0% looking for
and understanding the reason what the actual causes of the multitude
of problems are?
I don't see it that way.
Responding to terrorism-under-Allah by a war-under-God is not helping. In
fact: it shows a *complete* dis-understanding of the situation.
Do you think a sane person would fly himself into a building, or act
out any kind of suicide-mission? The answer is: no. These people are
driven into insanity, and the sad part is that Christians are just as
bad:
http://www.simonyi.ox.ac.uk/dawkins/WorldOfDawkins-
archive/Dawkins/Work
/Articles/1993-summervirusesofmind.shtml
Just as bad? I'm can't see that being preached at, even in the public
schools, is as bad as being murdered for criticizing Islam or being a
woman who has been raped. And the Europeans are passing laws to make it
illegal to criticize Islam!
The difference between Europe and the U.S. is that one of them is/has
a degree more fundamental/literal/patriotic swing to it.
On the flip side is that Europe, while more secular than the US, has
developed tolerance to the point of utter complacency as their culture
is subverted by immigrants who do not share that attitude of peaceful
coexistence with other beliefs.
You didn't think that these two were a recipe for high times, did you?
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/int/long.html
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/cruelty/long.html
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/int/long.html
In my opinion, a recipe for peace is such:
Education on:
1. Evolution
2. Myth-creation, including full historical facts on relevant
religions 3. Virusses of the mind
These things could have a nice place as mandatory school-topics (and
immigrants?).
But as long as people think "there is no invisible pixie like
invisible pixie and it is invisible pixie", problems are around the
corner.
That is true, but I'd have to say that Christians passed that corner a
long time ago and have grown able to tolerate each other fairly well;
'Fairly well' (on average) isn't good enough. They don't get myth-creation
and they don't get virusses of the mind.
Muslims are still hanging around the corner, mugging tourists and
starting fights with the pedestrians. ;-)
They have the same structural problems. Why are you trying to defend
Christianity by finding an even worse example.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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22 Jun 2005 08:18:06 AM |
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"Niels van der Linden" <n.f.l.vanderlinden@student.utwente.nl> wrote in
news:d9bln8$jau$1@netlx020.civ.utwente.nl:
Isnt being an atheist republican these days like being a christian
scientist with appendicitis?
Not really. I don't have to agree with everything the Reps say in
order to support them on a strong foreign policy and an aggressive
approach to international terrorism.
Have you ever thought about the fact that the thing they are doing
is 100% killing off something that threatens them and is 0% looking
for and understanding the reason what the actual causes of the
multitude of problems are?
I don't see it that way.
Responding to terrorism-under-Allah by a war-under-God is not helping.
In fact: it shows a *complete* dis-understanding of the situation.
The *disunderstanding* is on your part. We *are* getting at the root
causes, by jumpstarting democratic institutions in the region. We won't
solve those problems by throwing money and resources at them while the
corruption and oppressive regimes still exist.
Do you think a sane person would fly himself into a building, or act
out any kind of suicide-mission? The answer is: no. These people are
driven into insanity, and the sad part is that Christians are just
as bad:
http://www.simonyi.ox.ac.uk/dawkins/WorldOfDawkins-
archive/Dawkins/Work
/Articles/1993-summervirusesofmind.shtml
Just as bad? I'm can't see that being preached at, even in the public
schools, is as bad as being murdered for criticizing Islam or being a
woman who has been raped. And the Europeans are passing laws to make
it illegal to criticize Islam!
No comment?
The difference between Europe and the U.S. is that one of them
is/has a degree more fundamental/literal/patriotic swing to it.
On the flip side is that Europe, while more secular than the US, has
developed tolerance to the point of utter complacency as their
culture is subverted by immigrants who do not share that attitude of
peaceful coexistence with other beliefs.
You didn't think that these two were a recipe for high times, did
you? http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/int/long.html
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/cruelty/long.html
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/int/long.html
In my opinion, a recipe for peace is such:
Education on:
1. Evolution
2. Myth-creation, including full historical facts on relevant
religions 3. Virusses of the mind
These things could have a nice place as mandatory school-topics (and
immigrants?).
But as long as people think "there is no invisible pixie like
invisible pixie and it is invisible pixie", problems are around the
corner.
That is true, but I'd have to say that Christians passed that corner
a long time ago and have grown able to tolerate each other fairly
well;
'Fairly well' (on average) isn't good enough.
It's about the best we can expect.
They don't get
myth-creation and they don't get virusses of the mind.
Those things take education, which takes time.
Muslims are still hanging around the corner, mugging tourists and
starting fights with the pedestrians. ;-)
They have the same structural problems. Why are you trying to defend
Christianity by finding an even worse example.
Who says I'm trying to defend Christianity? I'm trying to point out that
your analogies between them and Muslims are rather strained.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "Olrik" |
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| Title: Re: As Our Liberties Fade Before Our Eyes... |
19 Jun 2005 12:39:10 AM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
Tak <null@null.com> wrote in news:99q8b1luscs1edeaitnh9904dimn62s4tp@
4ax.com:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:55:47 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
No doubt you'd like to have your little liberal echo chamber all to
yourselves, so you wouldn't have to ever confront anything that
contradicts your shallow little narrowminded viewpoint.
You mean you don't live in George Bush's "christian nation"
No, I don't. I live in the USA.
Isnt being an atheist republican these days like being a christian
scientist with appendicitis?
Not really. I don't have to agree with everything the Reps say in order
to support them on a strong foreign policy and an aggressive approach to
international terrorism.
Translation : "I hate republicans except when they invade a Third World
country who had nothing to do with 9/11, so I can feel patriotic even
when volunteer soldiers get killed or maimed, as long as it's not me.
Hahahahaha!"
Signed : Fred "Duke" Stone.
--
Olrik
aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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19 Jun 2005 07:01:58 AM |
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Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote in
news:3y7te.57208$2C2.1866361@wagner.videotron.net:
Fred Stone wrote:
Tak <null@null.com> wrote in news:99q8b1luscs1edeaitnh9904dimn62s4tp@
4ax.com:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:55:47 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
No doubt you'd like to have your little liberal echo chamber all to
yourselves, so you wouldn't have to ever confront anything that
contradicts your shallow little narrowminded viewpoint.
You mean you don't live in George Bush's "christian nation"
No, I don't. I live in the USA.
Isnt being an atheist republican these days like being a christian
scientist with appendicitis?
Not really. I don't have to agree with everything the Reps say in
order to support them on a strong foreign policy and an aggressive
approach to international terrorism.
Translation : "I hate republicans except when they invade a Third
World country who had nothing to do with 9/11, so I can feel patriotic
even when volunteer soldiers get killed or maimed, as long as it's not
me. Hahahahaha!"
Ahh, good old liberal projection.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "" |
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20 Jun 2005 12:39:19 AM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote in
news:3y7te.57208$2C2.1866361@wagner.videotron.net:
Fred Stone wrote:
Tak <null@null.com> wrote in news:99q8b1luscs1edeaitnh9904dimn62s4tp@
4ax.com:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:55:47 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
No doubt you'd like to have your little liberal echo chamber all to
yourselves, so you wouldn't have to ever confront anything that
contradicts your shallow little narrowminded viewpoint.
You mean you don't live in George Bush's "christian nation"
No, I don't. I live in the USA.
Isnt being an atheist republican these days like being a christian
scientist with appendicitis?
Not really. I don't have to agree with everything the Reps say in
order to support them on a strong foreign policy and an aggressive
approach to international terrorism.
Translation : "I hate republicans except when they invade a Third
World country who had nothing to do with 9/11, so I can feel patriotic
even when volunteer soldiers get killed or maimed, as long as it's not
me. Hahahahaha!"
Ahh, good old liberal projection.
I'm was only pointing out what 99.9 % of republicans think.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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20 Jun 2005 06:13:07 AM |
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wrote in
news:1119245959.672491.307310@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote in
news:3y7te.57208$2C2.1866361@wagner.videotron.net:
Fred Stone wrote:
Tak <null@null.com> wrote in
news:99q8b1luscs1edeaitnh9904dimn62s4tp@ 4ax.com:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 16:55:47 GMT, Fred Stone
<fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
No doubt you'd like to have your little liberal echo chamber all
to yourselves, so you wouldn't have to ever confront anything
that contradicts your shallow little narrowminded viewpoint.
You mean you don't live in George Bush's "christian nation"
No, I don't. I live in the USA.
Isnt being an atheist republican these days like being a christian
scientist with appendicitis?
Not really. I don't have to agree with everything the Reps say in
order to support them on a strong foreign policy and an aggressive
approach to international terrorism.
Translation : "I hate republicans except when they invade a Third
World country who had nothing to do with 9/11, so I can feel
patriotic even when volunteer soldiers get killed or maimed, as
long as it's not me. Hahahahaha!"
Ahh, good old liberal projection.
I'm was only pointing out what 99.9 % of republicans think.
You don't know what *any* Republicans think. That isn't telepathy, it's
just signal echo from your own thoughts.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "Niels van der Linden" |
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20 Jun 2005 11:49:48 AM |
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You don't know what *any* Republicans think. That isn't telepathy, it's
just signal echo from your own thoughts.
Can you tell me what it really means to be a Republican? What feature(s) do
they all share?
Niels
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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20 Jun 2005 02:54:43 PM |
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"Niels van der Linden" <n.f.l.vanderlinden@student.utwente.nl> wrote in
news:d96rui$3fh$1@netlx020.civ.utwente.nl:
You don't know what *any* Republicans think. That isn't telepathy,
it's just signal echo from your own thoughts.
Can you tell me what it really means to be a Republican? What
feature(s) do they all share?
Hmm.
The main thing they all share is that they're not Democrats. :-)
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "Niels van der Linden" |
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20 Jun 2005 03:16:41 PM |
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You don't know what *any* Republicans think. That isn't telepathy,
it's just signal echo from your own thoughts.
Can you tell me what it really means to be a Republican? What
feature(s) do they all share?
Hmm.
The main thing they all share is that they're not Democrats. :-)
I'm asking you a serious question.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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20 Jun 2005 03:55:18 PM |
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"Niels van der Linden" <n.f.l.vanderlinden@student.utwente.nl> wrote in
news:d9782e$75g$1@netlx020.civ.utwente.nl:
You don't know what *any* Republicans think. That isn't telepathy,
it's just signal echo from your own thoughts.
Can you tell me what it really means to be a Republican? What
feature(s) do they all share?
Hmm.
The main thing they all share is that they're not Democrats. :-)
I'm asking you a serious question.
I'm trying to give you a serious answer. Both parties are very broad,
and there is a lot of overlap.
Some of what *I* think are Republican ideas would include:
Big business isn't evil. Making a profit isn't a bad thing.
The free enterprise system is generally better than any other system.
Anybody can get ahead if they work hard, but there are no guarantees of
success.
Old ideas aren't necessarily bad, new ideas aren't necessarily good.
Freedom and democracy are good for everybody.
America doesn't have anything to apologize for.
It is right to fight for what you believe is right.
It is important that America be perceived as being strong.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "Niels van der Linden" |
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20 Jun 2005 05:21:01 PM |
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Can you tell me what it really means to be a Republican? What
feature(s) do they all share?
Hmm.
The main thing they all share is that they're not Democrats. :-)
I'm asking you a serious question.
I'm trying to give you a serious answer. Both parties are very broad,
and there is a lot of overlap.
Some of what *I* think are Republican ideas would include:
Big business isn't evil. Making a profit isn't a bad thing.
The free enterprise system is generally better than any other system.
Anybody can get ahead if they work hard, but there are no guarantees of
success.
Old ideas aren't necessarily bad, new ideas aren't necessarily good.
Freedom and democracy are good for everybody.
America doesn't have anything to apologize for.
What do you mean? Do you mean this as a preconception?
It is right to fight for what you believe is right.
What do you mean?
It is important that America be perceived as being strong.
Why? Strong how?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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20 Jun 2005 06:11:08 PM |
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"Niels van der Linden" <n.f.l.vanderlinden@student.utwente.nl> wrote in
news:d97fbh$9rt$1@netlx020.civ.utwente.nl:
Can you tell me what it really means to be a Republican? What
feature(s) do they all share?
Hmm.
The main thing they all share is that they're not Democrats. :-)
I'm asking you a serious question.
I'm trying to give you a serious answer. Both parties are very broad,
and there is a lot of overlap.
Some of what *I* think are Republican ideas would include:
Big business isn't evil. Making a profit isn't a bad thing.
The free enterprise system is generally better than any other system.
Anybody can get ahead if they work hard, but there are no guarantees
of success.
Old ideas aren't necessarily bad, new ideas aren't necessarily good.
Freedom and democracy are good for everybody.
America doesn't have anything to apologize for.
What do you mean? Do you mean this as a preconception?
I mean that as a present fact.
It is right to fight for what you believe is right.
What do you mean?
Just what it says. There are values that are worth fighting for. Freedom
and democracy among them. There are other things that are worth fighting
against. Terrorism in all its forms, for example.
It is important that America be perceived as being strong.
Why? Strong how?
Strong as in able to protect our interests, by force if necessary, so
that our enemies and rivals will think twice before using force against
us. And strong economically, so that we can accomplish any goals that we
wish to set for ourselves.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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20 Jun 2005 06:48:11 PM |
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"Niels van der Linden" <n.f.l.vanderlinden@student.utwente.nl> wrote in
message news:d97fbh$9rt$1@netlx020.civ.utwente.nl...
Can you tell me what it really means to be a Republican? What
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*Some helpful translations*:
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Big business isn't evil.
'Big business isn't evil -- until it gets caught being evil. Then it gets
let off....'
Making a profit isn't a bad thing.
'Your boss *really really deserves* to be paid 40 times as much as you....'
The free enterprise system is generally better than any other system.
'...Which is why we fight tooth and nail to make sure it never comes into
existence here and takes all our *corporate welfare* away from us....!'
Anybody can get ahead if they work hard, but there are no guarantees of
success.
'Anybody can get ahead if they work hard -- but who the ***** wants to work
hard, when grafting or having a rich family *makes you so much richer*...?'
Old ideas aren't necessarily bad, new ideas aren't necessarily good.
'...But since we don't give a flying ***** about 'ideas' anyway, what the
hell do we care...?'
Freedom and democracy are good for everybody.
'...Which is precisely why we don't tolerate such things at home, and have
always actively worked to subvert them abroad....'
America doesn't have anything to apologize for.
'...Hell, I mean: those 4,000,000 Vietnamese would eventually have died
anyway....'
It is right to fight for what you believe is right.
'...But we, of course, simply choose to fight for what is *profitable*....'
It is important that America be perceived as being strong.
'...Otherwise people might actually try and make us start living up to the
standards we preach at them when we want an excuse to steal what they've
got....'
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I trust that was helpful...
Katt.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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20 Jun 2005 09:18:00 PM |
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote in
news:%AIte.39553$8m5.5558@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net:
"Niels van der Linden" <n.f.l.vanderlinden@student.utwente.nl> wrote
in message news:d97fbh$9rt$1@netlx020.civ.utwente.nl...
Can you tell me what it really means to be a Republican? What
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*Some helpful translations*:
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Big business isn't evil.
'Big business isn't evil -- until it gets caught being evil. Then it
gets let off....'
Making a profit isn't a bad thing.
'Your boss *really really deserves* to be paid 40 times as much as
you....'
The free enterprise system is generally better than any other
system.
'...Which is why we fight tooth and nail to make sure it never comes
into existence here and takes all our *corporate welfare* away from
us....!'
Anybody can get ahead if they work hard, but there are no guarantees
of success.
'Anybody can get ahead if they work hard -- but who the ***** wants to
work hard, when grafting or having a rich family *makes you so much
richer*...?'
Old ideas aren't necessarily bad, new ideas aren't necessarily good.
'...But since we don't give a flying ***** about 'ideas' anyway, what
the hell do we care...?'
Freedom and democracy are good for everybody.
'...Which is precisely why we don't tolerate such things at home, and
have always actively worked to subvert them abroad....'
America doesn't have anything to apologize for.
'...Hell, I mean: those 4,000,000 Vietnamese would eventually have
died anyway....'
It is right to fight for what you believe is right.
'...But we, of course, simply choose to fight for what is
*profitable*....'
It is important that America be perceived as being strong.
'...Otherwise people might actually try and make us start living up to
the standards we preach at them when we want an excuse to steal what
they've got....'
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I trust that was helpful...
Yes, it goes right to the heart of why Democrats lose elections.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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20 Jun 2005 09:24:57 PM |
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On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 02:18:00 GMT, Ferd Stoned <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote in
news:%AIte.39553$8m5.5558@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net:
"Niels van der Linden" <n.f.l.vanderlinden@student.utwente.nl> wrote
in message news:d97fbh$9rt$1@netlx020.civ.utwente.nl...
Can you tell me what it really means to be a Republican? What
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*Some helpful translations*:
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Big business isn't evil.
'Big business isn't evil -- until it gets caught being evil. Then it
gets let off....'
Making a profit isn't a bad thing.
'Your boss *really really deserves* to be paid 40 times as much as
you....'
The free enterprise system is generally better than any other
system.
'...Which is why we fight tooth and nail to make sure it never comes
into existence here and takes all our *corporate welfare* away from
us....!'
Anybody can get ahead if they work hard, but there are no guarantees
of success.
'Anybody can get ahead if they work hard -- but who the ***** wants to
work hard, when grafting or having a rich family *makes you so much
richer*...?'
Old ideas aren't necessarily bad, new ideas aren't necessarily good.
'...But since we don't give a flying ***** about 'ideas' anyway, what
the hell do we care...?'
Freedom and democracy are good for everybody.
'...Which is precisely why we don't tolerate such things at home, and
have always actively worked to subvert them abroad....'
America doesn't have anything to apologize for.
'...Hell, I mean: those 4,000,000 Vietnamese would eventually have
died anyway....'
It is right to fight for what you believe is right.
'...But we, of course, simply choose to fight for what is
*profitable*....'
It is important that America be perceived as being strong.
'...Otherwise people might actually try and make us start living up to
the standards we preach at them when we want an excuse to steal what
they've got....'
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I trust that was helpful...
Yes, it goes right to the heart of why Democrats lose elections.
Yup. Democrats have consciences.
You and your Christofascist/RepubliCUNT (butt-)buddies don't.
Oh, and Ferd -- every time you cast a vote for a RepubliCUNT, you come
one step closer to becoming a Christstain.
Happy FOAD, you amoral RepubliCUNT --
Bonnie *****
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20 Jun 2005 11:44:13 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
"Niels van der Linden" <n.f.l.vanderlinden@student.utwente.nl> wrote in
news:d9782e$75g$1@netlx020.civ.utwente.nl:
You don't know what *any* Republicans think. That isn't telepathy,
it's just signal echo from your own thoughts.
Can you tell me what it really means to be a Republican? What
feature(s) do they all share?
Hmm.
The main thing they all share is that they're not Democrats. :-)
I'm asking you a serious question.
I'm trying to give you a serious answer. Both parties are very broad,
and there is a lot of overlap.
Some of what *I* think are Republican ideas would include:
Big business isn't evil. Making a profit isn't a bad thing.
In theory, no.
The free enterprise system is generally better than any other system.
Up to a point. It has to be restrained sometimes. That's why there are
thousands of laws regulating businesses (or, in fact, people who run them).
Anybody can get ahead if they work hard, but there are no guarantees of
success.
Sure.
Old ideas aren't necessarily bad, new ideas aren't necessarily good.
And vice-versa.
;-)
Freedom and democracy are good for everybody.
In theory, yes. The devil's in the details...
America doesn't have anything to apologize for.
Sure you do. You don't have a "god-given" blanket immunity for every
stupid actions your country/government does. Slavery, for example. Or
Vietnam. Or Chili. Or Iraq.
It is right to fight for what you believe is right.
In theory, yes. But "might makes right" is not always the way to go.
It is important that America be perceived as being strong.
For whom?
--
Olrik
aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
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21 Jun 2005 09:40:17 AM |
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Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote in
news:AWMte.55650$Jk6.950588@wagner.videotron.net:
Fred Stone wrote:
"Niels van der Linden" <n.f.l.vanderlinden@student.utwente.nl> wrote
in news:d9782e$75g$1@netlx020.civ.utwente.nl:
You don't know what *any* Republicans think. That isn't telepathy,
it's just signal echo from your own thoughts.
Can you tell me what it really means to be a Republican? What
feature(s) do they all share?
Hmm.
The main thing they all share is that they're not Democrats. :-)
I'm asking you a serious question.
I'm trying to give you a serious answer. Both parties are very broad,
and there is a lot of overlap.
Some of what *I* think are Republican ideas would include:
Big business isn't evil. Making a profit isn't a bad thing.
In theory, no.
In practice too. Some people get all confused about what businesses do
with their profits.
The free enterprise system is generally better than any other system.
Up to a point. It has to be restrained sometimes. That's why there are
thousands of laws regulating businesses (or, in fact, people who run
them).
Laws regulating criminal behavior are not a bad thing. Laws enabling
government interference are generally bad things.
Anybody can get ahead if they work hard, but there are no guarantees
of success.
Sure.
Old ideas aren't necessarily bad, new ideas aren't necessarily good.
And vice-versa.
;-)
True.
Freedom and democracy are good for everybody.
In theory, yes. The devil's in the details...
In practice too, and there's where the details get worked out.
America doesn't have anything to apologize for.
Sure you do. You don't have a "god-given" blanket immunity for every
stupid actions your country/government does. Slavery, for example.
We shed rivers of our own blood to atone for slavery. "Brother against
brother" and all that.
Or Vietnam. Or Chili. Or Iraq.
We aren't wrong to be in Iraq.
It is right to fight for what you believe is right.
In theory, yes. But "might makes right" is not always the way to go.
"Right justifies might" is more like it.
It is important that America be perceived as being strong.
For whom?
For our enemies and rivals. Make them think twice, at least, before they
decide to use force against us or our allies.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "" |
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21 Jun 2005 10:52:34 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote in
news:AWMte.55650$Jk6.950588@wagner.videotron.net:
Fred Stone wrote:
"Niels van der Linden" <n.f.l.vanderlinden@student.utwente.nl> wrote
in news:d9782e$75g$1@netlx020.civ.utwente.nl:
You don't know what *any* Republicans think. That isn't telepathy,
it's just signal echo from your own thoughts.
Can you tell me what it really means to be a Republican? What
feature(s) do they all share?
Hmm.
The main thing they all share is that they're not Democrats. :-)
I'm asking you a serious question.
I'm trying to give you a serious answer. Both parties are very broad,
and there is a lot of overlap.
Some of what *I* think are Republican ideas would include:
Big business isn't evil. Making a profit isn't a bad thing.
In theory, no.
In practice too. Some people get all confused about what businesses do
with their profits.
Yes, but people often are ***** when they read about the excesses
of business persons.
The free enterprise system is generally better than any other system.
Up to a point. It has to be restrained sometimes. That's why there are
thousands of laws regulating businesses (or, in fact, people who run
them).
Laws regulating criminal behavior are not a bad thing. Laws enabling
government interference are generally bad things.
Most of the time, laws regulating businesses are passed to restrict
"bad" (or unethical), but not illegal, business practices. They are
used to protect the public and employees.
Laws protecting the environment, the safety and work conditions of
workers, etc., are needed because businesses are run by people, some of
them being not very recommendable...
Anybody can get ahead if they work hard, but there are no guarantees
of success.
Sure.
Old ideas aren't necessarily bad, new ideas aren't necessarily good.
And vice-versa.
;-)
True.
Freedom and democracy are good for everybody.
In theory, yes. The devil's in the details...
In practice too, and there's where the details get worked out.
America doesn't have anything to apologize for.
Sure you do. You don't have a "god-given" blanket immunity for every
stupid actions your country/government does. Slavery, for example.
We shed rivers of our own blood to atone for slavery. "Brother against
brother" and all that.
Or Vietnam. Or Chili. Or Iraq.
We aren't wrong to be in Iraq.
Of course you are.
It is right to fight for what you believe is right.
In theory, yes. But "might makes right" is not always the way to go.
"Right justifies might" is more like it.
It is important that America be perceived as being strong.
For whom?
For our enemies and rivals. Make them think twice, at least, before they
decide to use force against us or our allies.
Well, posturing is fun when your country is the most powerful one,
sitting on a pile of armament to scare the bejesus out of enemies, real
or perceived. Have a ball, soldier.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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22 Jun 2005 06:54:55 AM |
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wrote in
news:1119412354.025652.18940@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote in
news:AWMte.55650$Jk6.950588@wagner.videotron.net:
Fred Stone wrote:
"Niels van der Linden" <n.f.l.vanderlinden@student.utwente.nl>
wrote in news:d9782e$75g$1@netlx020.civ.utwente.nl:
You don't know what *any* Republicans think. That isn't
telepathy, it's just signal echo from your own thoughts.
Can you tell me what it really means to be a Republican? What
feature(s) do they all share?
Hmm.
The main thing they all share is that they're not Democrats. :-)
I'm asking you a serious question.
I'm trying to give you a serious answer. Both parties are very
broad, and there is a lot of overlap.
Some of what *I* think are Republican ideas would include:
Big business isn't evil. Making a profit isn't a bad thing.
In theory, no.
In practice too. Some people get all confused about what businesses
do with their profits.
Yes, but people often are ***** when they read about the excesses
of business persons.
Unfortunately, they often don't get told about the similar excesses of
union persons or other supporters of Democrats.
The free enterprise system is generally better than any other
system.
Up to a point. It has to be restrained sometimes. That's why there
are thousands of laws regulating businesses (or, in fact, people
who run them).
Laws regulating criminal behavior are not a bad thing. Laws enabling
government interference are generally bad things.
Most of the time, laws regulating businesses are passed to restrict
"bad" (or unethical), but not illegal, business practices. They are
used to protect the public and employees.
Laws protecting the environment, the safety and work conditions of
workers, etc., are needed because businesses are run by people, some
of them being not very recommendable...
Those are what I would call criminal behavior. It becomes government
interference when the link to actual harm to the public is not
substantiated.
Anybody can get ahead if they work hard, but there are no
guarantees of success.
Sure.
Old ideas aren't necessarily bad, new ideas aren't necessarily
good.
And vice-versa.
;-)
True.
Freedom and democracy are good for everybody.
In theory, yes. The devil's in the details...
In practice too, and there's where the details get worked out.
America doesn't have anything to apologize for.
Sure you do. You don't have a "god-given" blanket immunity for
every stupid actions your country/government does. Slavery, for
example.
We shed rivers of our own blood to atone for slavery. "Brother
against brother" and all that.
Or Vietnam. Or Chili. Or Iraq.
We aren't wrong to be in Iraq.
Of course you are.
Of course we're not.
It is right to fight for what you believe is right.
In theory, yes. But "might makes right" is not always the way to
go.
"Right justifies might" is more like it.
It is important that America be perceived as being strong.
For whom?
For our enemies and rivals. Make them think twice, at least, before
they decide to use force against us or our allies.
Well, posturing is fun when your country is the most powerful one,
sitting on a pile of armament to scare the bejesus out of enemies,
real or perceived.
That's what that pile of armament is for.
It's not a posture, it's a stance.
<snip the snark>
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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23 Jun 2005 12:41:39 AM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
olrik666@gmail.com wrote in
news:1119412354.025652.18940@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote in
news:AWMte.55650$Jk6.950588@wagner.videotron.net:
Fred Stone wrote:
"Niels van der Linden" <n.f.l.vanderlinden@student.utwente.nl>
wrote in news:d9782e$75g$1@netlx020.civ.utwente.nl:
You don't know what *any* Republicans think. That isn't
telepathy, it's just signal echo from your own thoughts.
Can you tell me what it really means to be a Republican? What
feature(s) do they all share?
Hmm.
The main thing they all share is that they're not Democrats. :-)
I'm asking you a serious question.
I'm trying to give you a serious answer. Both parties are very
broad, and there is a lot of overlap.
Some of what *I* think are Republican ideas would include:
Big business isn't evil. Making a profit isn't a bad thing.
In theory, no.
In practice too. Some people get all confused about what businesses
do with their profits.
Yes, but people often are ***** when they read about the excesses
of business persons.
Unfortunately, they often don't get told about the similar excesses of
union persons or other supporters of Democrats.
There are criminals in all walks of life, from the poor to the rich,
from the right to the left.
Exploiting and abusing workers (by any means) was not illegal until
laws prevented it. Thus, the exploiters and abusers were *not*
criminals. The laws were passed because society evolved. Only then did
the infringers became criminals.
The free enterprise system is generally better than any other
system.
Up to a point. It has to be restrained sometimes. That's why there
are thousands of laws regulating businesses (or, in fact, people
who run them).
Laws regulating criminal behavior are not a bad thing. Laws enabling
government interference are generally bad things.
Most of the time, laws regulating businesses are passed to restrict
"bad" (or unethical), but not illegal, business practices. They are
used to protect the public and employees.
Laws protecting the environment, the safety and work conditions of
workers, etc., are needed because businesses are run by people, some
of them being not very recommendable...
Those are what I would call criminal behavior. It becomes government
interference when the link to actual harm to the public is not
substantiated.
Maybe. Although, by the same token, the government should stop all aid
(fiscal or otherwise), to all businesses.
Anybody can get ahead if they work hard, but there are no
guarantees of success.
Sure.
Old ideas aren't necessarily bad, new ideas aren't necessarily
good.
And vice-versa.
;-)
True.
Freedom and democracy are good for everybody.
In theory, yes. The devil's in the details...
In practice too, and there's where the details get worked out.
America doesn't have anything to apologize for.
Sure you do. You don't have a "god-given" blanket immunity for
every stupid actions your country/government does. Slavery, for
example.
We shed rivers of our own blood to atone for slavery. "Brother
against brother" and all that.
Or Vietnam. Or Chili. Or Iraq.
We aren't wrong to be in Iraq.
Of course you are.
Of course we're not.
Reasons to invade :
Unpopular Dictator : Check.
No WMD : Check.
No "clear and present danger" : Check.
No relation to 9/11 : Check.
Third World country : Check.
No defense to speak of : Check.
President trying to best his father : Check.
Easy, popular invasion : Check.
Pissed-off, raving-mad nation : Check.
Result :
Useless war : Checkmate.
It is right to fight for what you believe is right.
In theory, yes. But "might makes right" is not always the way to
go.
"Right justifies might" is more like it.
It is important that America be perceived as being strong.
For whom?
For our enemies and rivals. Make them think twice, at least, before
they decide to use force against us or our allies.
Well, posturing is fun when your country is the most powerful one,
sitting on a pile of armament to scare the bejesus out of enemies,
real or perceived.
That's what that pile of armament is for.
It's not a posture, it's a stance.
Well...
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=stance
They're synonyms. I'm not fluent enough in English to grasp the subtle
difference between those words.
Olrik
<snip the snark>
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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