Religions > Atheism > Assisted Suicide Watchdog Says The Practice is Fraught With Problems
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15 Apr 2007 11:12:19 PM |
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Assisted Suicide Watchdog Says The Practice is Fraught With Problems |
I'm sure Dr. Mengele would have given a glowing report about the work
his doctors were doing. Different era, same agenda.
http://www.lifenews.com/nat3030.html
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A leading watchdog of end of life
issues says the practice of assisted suicide is fraught with problems
that don't normally get mentioned in the mainstream media treatment of
the issue. Rita Marker, the executive director of the International
Task Force on Euthanasia and Assisted Suicide talked about these
concerns in an interview with the Messenger of St. Anthony.
Euthanasia, said Marker, "means intentionally and directly killing
someone by, for example, a lethal injection or holding a pillow over
their face." In assisted suicide, however, a third party "provides the
means, knowing and intending that the person to whom they are given to
commit suicide will use [as] the means." Oregon doctors have claimed
to have assisted with hundreds of suicides without complications. But,
said Marker, "it's always important to remember that those carrying
out the assisted suicides write those reports." Basically, in Oregon,
doctors assisting with suicides police themselves. And despite the
"safeguards" a law might have, "people should recognize that if
assisted suicide becomes a medical treatment, which it has in the
state of Oregon, there is no way to maintain any of the so-called
boundaries or so-called safeguards," said Marker. "It is inevitable
that if it becomes available it will be available for any reason or
any purpose." Even though a law might allow suicide only for
"competent adults," "the first time there is a court challenge, that
will change," said Marker. "As for regulation, there is no way of
verifying the numbers reported by the proponents. We do not know if
those numbers are accurate or not. Certainly they are not going to say
that they violated the law."
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| User: "Adam A. Wanderer" |
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| Title: Re: Assisted Suicide Watchdog Says The Practice is Fraught With Problems |
16 Apr 2007 05:21:48 PM |
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If there truly is a God in Heaven, you'll have a nice, long, slow dying
process, and be denied the same service a cat or dog gets.
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1176696738.965299.209760@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I'm sure Dr. Mengele would have given a glowing report about the work
his doctors were doing. Different era, same agenda.
http://www.lifenews.com/nat3030.html
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A leading watchdog of end of life
issues says the practice of assisted suicide is fraught with problems
that don't normally get mentioned in the mainstream media treatment of
the issue. Rita Marker, the executive director of the International
Task Force on Euthanasia and Assisted Suicide talked about these
concerns in an interview with the Messenger of St. Anthony.
Euthanasia, said Marker, "means intentionally and directly killing
someone by, for example, a lethal injection or holding a pillow over
their face." In assisted suicide, however, a third party "provides the
means, knowing and intending that the person to whom they are given to
commit suicide will use [as] the means." Oregon doctors have claimed
to have assisted with hundreds of suicides without complications. But,
said Marker, "it's always important to remember that those carrying
out the assisted suicides write those reports." Basically, in Oregon,
doctors assisting with suicides police themselves. And despite the
"safeguards" a law might have, "people should recognize that if
assisted suicide becomes a medical treatment, which it has in the
state of Oregon, there is no way to maintain any of the so-called
boundaries or so-called safeguards," said Marker. "It is inevitable
that if it becomes available it will be available for any reason or
any purpose." Even though a law might allow suicide only for
"competent adults," "the first time there is a court challenge, that
will change," said Marker. "As for regulation, there is no way of
verifying the numbers reported by the proponents. We do not know if
those numbers are accurate or not. Certainly they are not going to say
that they violated the law."
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Assisted Suicide Watchdog Says The Practice is Fraught With Problems |
17 Apr 2007 12:52:08 PM |
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J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
I'm sure Dr. Mengele would have given a glowing report about the work
his doctors were doing.
With the support of your church.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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16 Apr 2007 12:35:43 AM |
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J Young wrote:
I'm sure Dr. Mengele would have given a glowing report...
Young sure seems to knwo a lot about Dr Mengele...
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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17 Apr 2007 10:18:59 AM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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J Young wrote:
I'm sure Dr. Mengele would have given a glowing report...
Young sure seems to knwo a lot about Dr Mengele...
One of his heros, no doubt :P
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Robyn
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BAAWA Knight!
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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16 Apr 2007 09:17:13 AM |
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On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:35:43 -0800, in alt.atheism , DanielSan
<daniel-san@myrealbox.com> in
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J Young wrote:
I'm sure Dr. Mengele would have given a glowing report...
Young sure seems to knwo a lot about Dr Mengele...
You can imagine the conflict he must feel about it.
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Matt Silberstein
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| User: "Syd M." |
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16 Apr 2007 03:16:58 PM |
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On Apr 16, 10:17 am, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:35:43 -0800, in alt.atheism , DanielSan
<daniel-...@myrealbox.com> in
<Q7GdnTG9u-JhYb_bnZ2dnUVZ_qDin...@comcast.com> wrote:
J Young wrote:
I'm sure Dr. Mengele would have given a glowing report...
Young sure seems to knwo a lot about Dr Mengele...
You can imagine the conflict he must feel about it.
I would if I thought there "was" conflict inside him..
As it is, I don't see it..
PDW
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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17 Apr 2007 11:24:23 AM |
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On 16 Apr 2007 13:16:58 -0700, in alt.atheism , "Syd M."
<pdwright42@yahoo.com> in
<1176754618.746528.48810@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Apr 16, 10:17 am, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 21:35:43 -0800, in alt.atheism , DanielSan
<daniel-...@myrealbox.com> in
<Q7GdnTG9u-JhYb_bnZ2dnUVZ_qDin...@comcast.com> wrote:
J Young wrote:
I'm sure Dr. Mengele would have given a glowing report...
Young sure seems to knwo a lot about Dr Mengele...
You can imagine the conflict he must feel about it.
I would if I thought there "was" conflict inside him..
As it is, I don't see it..
His Church has spoken out against one of his idols.
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Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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16 Apr 2007 07:45:33 AM |
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On 15 Apr 2007 21:12:19 -0700 there was an Ancient "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
I'm sure Dr. Mengele would have given a glowing report about the work
his doctors were doing. Different era, same agenda.
http://www.lifenews.com/nat3030.html
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A leading watchdog of end of life
issues says the practice of assisted suicide is fraught with problems
that don't normally get mentioned in the mainstream media treatment of
the issue.
I followed this link out hoping to see what the problems were. You
know, some actual examples of cases where Oregon's death with dignity
act had been missapplied or abused.
Nothing. Just vague "oh, there might be something bad happening"
hand-waving. Typical.
Oregon's law is filled with checks to make sure that it is used only
by people in end-stage terminal illnesses and only when they are
competent to make the choice about ending their life at a time of
their choosing. You need to be an Oregon resident, have two doctors
confirm that you are indeed in terminal decline and cannot recovery,
and are mentally able to understand the decision.
Doing a little research, I cannot find a single case - not one - where
abuse of the system by doctors is alleged.
Oh, and Joseph Mengele performed medical experiments on unwilling
subjects. Hardly the same thing as we see here. This is just more of
Young hating people having control over their own lives.
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Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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16 Apr 2007 05:09:50 PM |
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On 15 Apr 2007 21:12:19 -0700, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
I'm sure Dr. Mengele would have given a glowing report about the work
his doctors were doing. Different era, same agenda.
What do you have against Mengele? He killed Jews. Isn't that what
you wish you could do? Or would you rather keep them alive and
torture them?
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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16 Apr 2007 12:44:44 AM |
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On 16 avr, 06:12, "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
I'm sure Dr. Mengele would have given a glowing report about the work
his doctors were doing. Different era, same agenda.
Let's hope that when you have an incurable disease that causes
excruciating pain that you'll suffer to the last second and that every
doctor, especially if they are Jewish, Muslim, gay or even woman, look
at you with a big smile. Maybe then, you'll "get it"...
Why do "Christians" like you want people suffer? Why do you hate
mankind?
You know, J fucking Young, because your life is a nightmare doesn't
mean that everyone has to suffer just like you.
http://www.lifenews.com/nat3030.html
If you want to be be taken seriously, please use credible sources.
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| User: "LC" |
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16 Apr 2007 09:34:39 AM |
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One half moronic troll, one half Chicken Little, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1176696738.965299.209760@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
I'm sure Dr. Mengele would have given a glowing report about the work
his doctors were doing. Different era, same agenda.
<snip>
Oregon doctors have claimed to have assisted with hundreds of suicides
without complications. But,
said Marker, "it's always important to remember that those carrying
out the assisted suicides write those reports." Basically, in Oregon,
doctors assisting with suicides police themselves. And despite the
"safeguards" a law might have, "people should recognize that if
assisted suicide becomes a medical treatment, which it has in the
state of Oregon, there is no way to maintain any of the so-called
boundaries or so-called safeguards," said Marker. "It is inevitable
that if it becomes available it will be available for any reason or
any purpose." Even though a law might allow suicide only for
"competent adults," "the first time there is a court challenge, that
will change," said Marker. "As for regulation, there is no way of
verifying the numbers reported by the proponents. We do not know if
those numbers are accurate or not. Certainly they are not going to say
that they violated the law."
Now that you've seen the BS from proven liar "J Young" and his "sources",
read the facts here:
http://www.deathwithdignity.org/
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