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Astronomers Find Enormous Hole in the Universe |
Whoops! Did the "Designer" forget something?
<image at site>
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NRAO
Astronomers Find Enormous Hole in the Universe
Astronomers have found an enormous hole in the Universe, nearly a
billion light-years across, empty of both normal matter such as stars,
galaxies, and gas, and the mysterious, unseen "dark matter." While
earlier studies have shown holes, or voids, in the large-scale structure
of the Universe, this new discovery dwarfs them all.
"Not only has no one ever found a void this big, but we never even
expected to find one this size," said Lawrence Rudnick of the University
of Minnesota. Rudnick, along with Shea Brown and Liliya R. Williams,
also of the University of Minnesota, reported their findings in a paper
accepted for publication in the Astrophysical Journal.
Astronomers have known for years that, on large scales, the Universe has
voids largely empty of matter. However, most of these voids are much
smaller than the one found by Rudnick and his colleagues. In addition,
the number of discovered voids decreases as the size increases.
"What we've found is not normal, based on either observational studies
or on computer simulations of the large-scale evolution of the
Universe," Williams said.
The astronomers drew their conclusion by studying data from the NRAO VLA
Sky Survey (NVSS), a project that imaged the entire sky visible to the
Very Large Array (VLA) radio telescope, part of the National Science
Foundation's National Radio Astronomy Observatory (NRAO). Their careful
study of the NVSS data showed a remarkable drop in the number of
galaxies in a region of sky in the constellation Eridanus.
"We already knew there was something different about this spot in the
sky," Rudnick said. The region had been dubbed the "WMAP Cold Spot,"
because it stood out in a map of the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB)
radiation made by the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotopy Probe (WMAP)
satellite, launched by NASA in 2001. The CMB, faint radio waves that are
the remnant radiation from the Big Bang, is the earliest "baby picture"
available of the Universe. Irregularities in the CMB show structures
that existed only a few hundred thousand years after the Big Bang.
The WMAP satellite measured temperature differences in the CMB that are
only millionths of a degree. The cold region in Eridanus was discovered
in 2004.
Astronomers wondered if the cold spot was intrinsic to the CMB, and thus
indicated some structure in the very early Universe, or whether it could
be caused by something more nearby through which the CMB had to pass on
its way to Earth. Finding the dearth of galaxies in that region by
studying NVSS data resolved that question.
"Although our surprising results need independent confirmation, the
slightly colder temperature of the CMB in this region appears to be
caused by a huge hole devoid of nearly all matter roughly 6-10 billion
light-years from Earth," Rudnick said.
How does a lack of matter cause a cooler temperature in the Big Bang's
remnant radiation as seen from Earth?
Photons of the CMB gain a small amount of energy when they pass through
a region of space populated by matter. This effect is caused by the
enigmatic "dark energy" that is accelerating the expansion of the
Universe. This gain in photon energy makes the CMB appear slightly
warmer in that direction. When the photons pass through an empty void,
they lose a small amount of energy from this effect, and so the CMB
radiation passing through such a region appears cooler.
The acceleration of the Universe's expansion, and thus dark energy, were
discovered less than a decade ago. The physical properties of dark
energy are unknown, though it is by far the most abundant form of energy
in the Universe today. Learning its nature is one of the most
fundamental current problems in astrophysics.
The NVSS imaged the roughly 82 percent of the sky visible from the New
Mexico site of the VLA. The survey consists of 217,446 individual
observations that consumed 2,940 hours of telescope time between 1993
and 1997. A set of 2,326 images was produced from the data, and these
images are available via the NRAO Web site. The survey also produced a
catalog of more than 1.8 million individual objects identifiable in the
images. The NVSS has been cited in more than 1,200 scientific papers.
NASA's WMAP satellite, using microwave amplifiers produced by NRAO's
Central Development Laboratory, has yielded a wealth of new information
about the age and history of the Universe, the emergence of the first
stars, and the composition of the Universe. WMAP results have been
extensively cited by scientists in a wide variety of astrophysical
specialties.
The National Radio Astronomy Observatory is a facility of the National
Science Foundation, operated under cooperative agreement by Associated
Universities, Inc. This research at the University of Minnesota is
supported by individual investigator grants from the NSF and NASA. .
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http://www.nrao.edu/pr/2007/coldspot/
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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24 Aug 2007 09:15:32 PM |
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In article <jhachmann-251BD9.22405623082007@news.giganews.com>, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Whoops! Did the "Designer" forget something?
<image at site>
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NRAO
Astronomers Find Enormous Hole in the Universe
The pictures at John Boatwright's website prove this hole to be, in
fact, God's vagina.
-chib
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Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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| User: "johac" |
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25 Aug 2007 12:31:13 AM |
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In article <240820071915324984%chib@nospam.com>,
chibiabos <chib@nospam.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-251BD9.22405623082007@news.giganews.com>, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Whoops! Did the "Designer" forget something?
<image at site>
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NRAO
Astronomers Find Enormous Hole in the Universe
The pictures at John Boatwright's website prove this hole to be, in
fact, God's vagina.
LOL! Where is old Boaty? I haven't seen him over here in ages. Did they
finally cart him off to the funny farm?
-chib
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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25 Aug 2007 08:08:52 PM |
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On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:15:32 -0700, chibiabos <chib@nospam.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-251BD9.22405623082007@news.giganews.com>, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Whoops! Did the "Designer" forget something?
<image at site>
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NRAO
Astronomers Find Enormous Hole in the Universe
The pictures at John Boatwright's website prove this hole to be, in
fact, God's vagina.
-chib
What does God need a vagina^H^H^H^H^H^H star ship? :-)
Ben
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| User: "Budikka666" |
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24 Aug 2007 04:22:28 PM |
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On Aug 24, 12:40 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Whoops! Did the "Designer" forget something?
<image at site>
---
NRAO
Astronomers Find Enormous Hole in the Universe
Astronomers have found an enormous hole in the Universe, nearly a
billion light-years across, empty of both normal matter such as stars,
galaxies, and gas, and the mysterious, unseen "dark matter." While
earlier studies have shown holes, or voids, in the large-scale structure
of the Universe, this new discovery dwarfs them all.
"Not only has no one ever found a void this big, but we never even
expected to find one this size," said Lawrence Rudnick of the University
of Minnesota. Rudnick, along with Shea Brown and Liliya R. Williams,
also of the University of Minnesota, reported their findings in a paper
accepted for publication in the Astrophysical Journal.
Astronomers have known for years that, on large scales, the Universe has
voids largely empty of matter. However, most of these voids are much
smaller than the one found by Rudnick and his colleagues. In addition,
the number of discovered voids decreases as the size increases.
"What we've found is not normal, based on either observational studies
or on computer simulations of the large-scale evolution of the
Universe," Williams said.
The astronomers drew their conclusion by studying data from the NRAO VLA
Sky Survey (NVSS), a project that imaged the entire sky visible to the
Very Large Array (VLA) radio telescope, part of the National Science
Foundation's National Radio Astronomy Observatory (NRAO). Their careful
study of the NVSS data showed a remarkable drop in the number of
galaxies in a region of sky in the constellation Eridanus.
"We already knew there was something different about this spot in the
sky," Rudnick said. The region had been dubbed the "WMAP Cold Spot,"
because it stood out in a map of the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB)
radiation made by the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotopy Probe (WMAP)
satellite, launched by NASA in 2001. The CMB, faint radio waves that are
the remnant radiation from the Big Bang, is the earliest "baby picture"
available of the Universe. Irregularities in the CMB show structures
that existed only a few hundred thousand years after the Big Bang.
The WMAP satellite measured temperature differences in the CMB that are
only millionths of a degree. The cold region in Eridanus was discovered
in 2004.
Astronomers wondered if the cold spot was intrinsic to the CMB, and thus
indicated some structure in the very early Universe, or whether it could
be caused by something more nearby through which the CMB had to pass on
its way to Earth. Finding the dearth of galaxies in that region by
studying NVSS data resolved that question.
"Although our surprising results need independent confirmation, the
slightly colder temperature of the CMB in this region appears to be
caused by a huge hole devoid of nearly all matter roughly 6-10 billion
light-years from Earth," Rudnick said.
How does a lack of matter cause a cooler temperature in the Big Bang's
remnant radiation as seen from Earth?
Photons of the CMB gain a small amount of energy when they pass through
a region of space populated by matter. This effect is caused by the
enigmatic "dark energy" that is accelerating the expansion of the
Universe. This gain in photon energy makes the CMB appear slightly
warmer in that direction. When the photons pass through an empty void,
they lose a small amount of energy from this effect, and so the CMB
radiation passing through such a region appears cooler.
The acceleration of the Universe's expansion, and thus dark energy, were
discovered less than a decade ago. The physical properties of dark
energy are unknown, though it is by far the most abundant form of energy
in the Universe today. Learning its nature is one of the most
fundamental current problems in astrophysics.
The NVSS imaged the roughly 82 percent of the sky visible from the New
Mexico site of the VLA. The survey consists of 217,446 individual
observations that consumed 2,940 hours of telescope time between 1993
and 1997. A set of 2,326 images was produced from the data, and these
images are available via the NRAO Web site. The survey also produced a
catalog of more than 1.8 million individual objects identifiable in the
images. The NVSS has been cited in more than 1,200 scientific papers.
NASA's WMAP satellite, using microwave amplifiers produced by NRAO's
Central Development Laboratory, has yielded a wealth of new information
about the age and history of the Universe, the emergence of the first
stars, and the composition of the Universe. WMAP results have been
extensively cited by scientists in a wide variety of astrophysical
specialties.
The National Radio Astronomy Observatory is a facility of the National
Science Foundation, operated under cooperative agreement by Associated
Universities, Inc. This research at the University of Minnesota is
supported by individual investigator grants from the NSF and NASA. .
---http://www.nrao.edu/pr/2007/coldspot/
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
Now you've gone and proven that the universe is Hol(e)y. There'll be
Hell to pay for this!
Budikka
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| User: "Smiler" |
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| Title: Re: Astronomers Find Enormous Hole in the Universe |
24 Aug 2007 09:25:55 PM |
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"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1187990548.460109.51160@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 24, 12:40 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Whoops! Did the "Designer" forget something?
Nah. He just ran out of stars before he got to that bit and the Star Shop
was closed.
Smiler,
The godless one
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| User: "johac" |
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25 Aug 2007 12:29:29 AM |
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In article <TqMzi.25524$ph7.21051@newsfe5-win.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1187990548.460109.51160@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 24, 12:40 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Whoops! Did the "Designer" forget something?
Nah. He just ran out of stars before he got to that bit and the Star Shop
was closed.
He could have waited until they reopened. Maybe he just ran out of money.
Smiler,
The godless one
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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25 Aug 2007 10:23:09 PM |
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On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:29:29 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <TqMzi.25524$ph7.21051@newsfe5-win.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1187990548.460109.51160@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 24, 12:40 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Whoops! Did the "Designer" forget something?
Nah. He just ran out of stars before he got to that bit and the Star Shop
was closed.
He could have waited until they reopened.
On the seventh day, EVERYONE rested. (And it's still the seventh
god-day, which is why we never see him - he's still in church.) He'll
fill in that hole on Sunday (he keeps the REAL Sabbath), but that'll
be in a few billion years.
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| User: "johac" |
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26 Aug 2007 01:28:05 AM |
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In article <vds1d39vs4ceb734g3stsj0l9h968rk07j@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:29:29 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <TqMzi.25524$ph7.21051@newsfe5-win.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1187990548.460109.51160@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 24, 12:40 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Whoops! Did the "Designer" forget something?
Nah. He just ran out of stars before he got to that bit and the Star Shop
was closed.
He could have waited until they reopened.
On the seventh day, EVERYONE rested. (And it's still the seventh
god-day, which is why we never see him - he's still in church.) He'll
fill in that hole on Sunday (he keeps the REAL Sabbath), but that'll
be in a few billion years.
Let's see. One of our years is seven dog years, so one god day is
several billion of our years, how long is a god year?
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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26 Aug 2007 07:16:09 AM |
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On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 23:23:09 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:29:29 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <TqMzi.25524$ph7.21051@newsfe5-win.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1187990548.460109.51160@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 24, 12:40 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Whoops! Did the "Designer" forget something?
Nah. He just ran out of stars before he got to that bit and the Star Shop
was closed.
He could have waited until they reopened.
On the seventh day, EVERYONE rested. (And it's still the seventh
god-day, which is why we never see him - he's still in church.) He'll
fill in that hole on Sunday (he keeps the REAL Sabbath), but that'll
be in a few billion years.
If God is anywhere near a billion light years in size, a single "nerve-impulse"
traveling at the speed of light would take a billion years to get from one side
of him to the other. No wonder we haven't seen any evidence.
It would take the entire life expectancy of our sun just to scratch his ...
knee.
Ben
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| User: "johac" |
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26 Aug 2007 11:47:47 PM |
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In article <pfr2d3t25m7bndsvt1vr6bu8in3v52jj74@4ax.com>,
Ben Kaufman <spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com> wrote:
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 23:23:09 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:29:29 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <TqMzi.25524$ph7.21051@newsfe5-win.ntli.net>,
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote:
"Budikka666" <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:1187990548.460109.51160@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 24, 12:40 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Whoops! Did the "Designer" forget something?
Nah. He just ran out of stars before he got to that bit and the Star Shop
was closed.
He could have waited until they reopened.
On the seventh day, EVERYONE rested. (And it's still the seventh
god-day, which is why we never see him - he's still in church.) He'll
fill in that hole on Sunday (he keeps the REAL Sabbath), but that'll
be in a few billion years.
If God is anywhere near a billion light years in size, a single
"nerve-impulse"
traveling at the speed of light would take a billion years to get from one
side
of him to the other. No wonder we haven't seen any evidence.
It would take the entire life expectancy of our sun just to scratch his ...
knee.
His thought processes would take just as long so it would take a billion
years for him to send us another flood.
Ben
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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27 Aug 2007 08:01:04 PM |
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On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:47:47 -0700 there was an Ancient johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
His thought processes would take just as long so it would take a billion
years for him to send us another flood.
Really. So why aren't Soddom and Gommorah still thriving cities
waiting for that cosmic zot?
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "johac" |
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28 Aug 2007 12:40:29 AM |
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In article <cts6d3hqd6rk6p73rkah8ipgrr2sfulok3@4ax.com>,
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:47:47 -0700 there was an Ancient johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
His thought processes would take just as long so it would take a billion
years for him to send us another flood.
Really. So why aren't Soddom and Gommorah still thriving cities
waiting for that cosmic zot?
They are, but they heard it was coming so they just moved underground.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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27 Aug 2007 08:49:19 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:01:04 -0700, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:47:47 -0700 there was an Ancient johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
His thought processes would take just as long so it would take a billion
years for him to send us another flood.
Really. So why aren't Soddom and Gommorah still thriving cities
waiting for that cosmic zot?
God had nothing to do with that. The insurance company weaseled out by claiming
it was an act of God.
Ben
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| User: "johac" |
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24 Aug 2007 06:25:39 PM |
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In article <1187990548.460109.51160@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
Budikka666 <budikka1@netscape.net> wrote:
On Aug 24, 12:40 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Whoops! Did the "Designer" forget something?
<image at site>
---
NRAO
Astronomers Find Enormous Hole in the Universe
Astronomers have found an enormous hole in the Universe, nearly a
billion light-years across, empty of both normal matter such as stars,
galaxies, and gas, and the mysterious, unseen "dark matter." While
earlier studies have shown holes, or voids, in the large-scale structure
of the Universe, this new discovery dwarfs them all.
"Not only has no one ever found a void this big, but we never even
expected to find one this size," said Lawrence Rudnick of the University
of Minnesota. Rudnick, along with Shea Brown and Liliya R. Williams,
also of the University of Minnesota, reported their findings in a paper
accepted for publication in the Astrophysical Journal.
Astronomers have known for years that, on large scales, the Universe has
voids largely empty of matter. However, most of these voids are much
smaller than the one found by Rudnick and his colleagues. In addition,
the number of discovered voids decreases as the size increases.
"What we've found is not normal, based on either observational studies
or on computer simulations of the large-scale evolution of the
Universe," Williams said.
The astronomers drew their conclusion by studying data from the NRAO VLA
Sky Survey (NVSS), a project that imaged the entire sky visible to the
Very Large Array (VLA) radio telescope, part of the National Science
Foundation's National Radio Astronomy Observatory (NRAO). Their careful
study of the NVSS data showed a remarkable drop in the number of
galaxies in a region of sky in the constellation Eridanus.
"We already knew there was something different about this spot in the
sky," Rudnick said. The region had been dubbed the "WMAP Cold Spot,"
because it stood out in a map of the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB)
radiation made by the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotopy Probe (WMAP)
satellite, launched by NASA in 2001. The CMB, faint radio waves that are
the remnant radiation from the Big Bang, is the earliest "baby picture"
available of the Universe. Irregularities in the CMB show structures
that existed only a few hundred thousand years after the Big Bang.
The WMAP satellite measured temperature differences in the CMB that are
only millionths of a degree. The cold region in Eridanus was discovered
in 2004.
Astronomers wondered if the cold spot was intrinsic to the CMB, and thus
indicated some structure in the very early Universe, or whether it could
be caused by something more nearby through which the CMB had to pass on
its way to Earth. Finding the dearth of galaxies in that region by
studying NVSS data resolved that question.
"Although our surprising results need independent confirmation, the
slightly colder temperature of the CMB in this region appears to be
caused by a huge hole devoid of nearly all matter roughly 6-10 billion
light-years from Earth," Rudnick said.
How does a lack of matter cause a cooler temperature in the Big Bang's
remnant radiation as seen from Earth?
Photons of the CMB gain a small amount of energy when they pass through
a region of space populated by matter. This effect is caused by the
enigmatic "dark energy" that is accelerating the expansion of the
Universe. This gain in photon energy makes the CMB appear slightly
warmer in that direction. When the photons pass through an empty void,
they lose a small amount of energy from this effect, and so the CMB
radiation passing through such a region appears cooler.
The acceleration of the Universe's expansion, and thus dark energy, were
discovered less than a decade ago. The physical properties of dark
energy are unknown, though it is by far the most abundant form of energy
in the Universe today. Learning its nature is one of the most
fundamental current problems in astrophysics.
The NVSS imaged the roughly 82 percent of the sky visible from the New
Mexico site of the VLA. The survey consists of 217,446 individual
observations that consumed 2,940 hours of telescope time between 1993
and 1997. A set of 2,326 images was produced from the data, and these
images are available via the NRAO Web site. The survey also produced a
catalog of more than 1.8 million individual objects identifiable in the
images. The NVSS has been cited in more than 1,200 scientific papers.
NASA's WMAP satellite, using microwave amplifiers produced by NRAO's
Central Development Laboratory, has yielded a wealth of new information
about the age and history of the Universe, the emergence of the first
stars, and the composition of the Universe. WMAP results have been
extensively cited by scientists in a wide variety of astrophysical
specialties.
The National Radio Astronomy Observatory is a facility of the National
Science Foundation, operated under cooperative agreement by Associated
Universities, Inc. This research at the University of Minnesota is
supported by individual investigator grants from the NSF and NASA. .
---http://www.nrao.edu/pr/2007/coldspot/
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
Now you've gone and proven that the universe is Hol(e)y. There'll be
Hell to pay for this!
LOL! Well, it's empty. There's nothing there. Nothing. So that must be
where their god is.
Budikka
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Kurt Nicklas" |
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27 Aug 2007 08:07:58 PM |
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On Aug 24, 1:40 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Whoops! Did the "Designer" forget something?
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Astronomers Find Enormous Hole in the Universe
Maybe it's where all the atheists go when they die?
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| User: "johac" |
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28 Aug 2007 12:38:34 AM |
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In article <1188263278.695893.79430@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>,
Kurt Nicklas <nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote:
On Aug 24, 1:40 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Whoops! Did the "Designer" forget something?
<image at site>
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NRAO
Astronomers Find Enormous Hole in the Universe
Maybe it's where all the atheists go when they die?
That's where your god is. Nothing there.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Backyard Astronomer" |
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28 Aug 2007 03:36:14 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:07:58 -0700, Kurt Nicklas
<nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote:
On Aug 24, 1:40 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Whoops! Did the "Designer" forget something?
<image at site>
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NRAO
Astronomers Find Enormous Hole in the Universe
Maybe it's where all the atheists go when they die?
Maybe it's where Ford Pintos go when they die. But there's no reason
to believe that either.
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| User: "Kelsey Bjarnason" |
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02 Sep 2007 04:09:34 PM |
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:36:14 -0500, Backyard Astronomer wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:07:58 -0700, Kurt Nicklas
<nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote:
On Aug 24, 1:40 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Whoops! Did the "Designer" forget something?
<image at site>
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NRAO
Astronomers Find Enormous Hole in the Universe
Maybe it's where all the atheists go when they die?
Maybe it's where Ford Pintos go when they die. But there's no reason
to believe that either.
I thought atheists went into the ground - or urns - when they die. Like
pretty much everyone else.
--
Keep the world beautiful. Properly dispose of your lawyer.
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| User: "stoney" |
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04 Sep 2007 11:47:29 PM |
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 14:09:34 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:36:14 -0500, Backyard Astronomer wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:07:58 -0700, Kurt Nicklas
<nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote:
On Aug 24, 1:40 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Whoops! Did the "Designer" forget something?
<image at site>
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NRAO
Astronomers Find Enormous Hole in the Universe
Maybe it's where all the atheists go when they die?
Maybe it's where Ford Pintos go when they die. But there's no reason
to believe that either.
I thought atheists went into the ground - or urns - when they die. Like
pretty much everyone else.
Depends on their overall lifetime urnings.....
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| User: "Kelsey Bjarnason" |
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06 Sep 2007 12:49:10 PM |
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On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:47:29 -0700, stoney wrote:
On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 14:09:34 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:36:14 -0500, Backyard Astronomer wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:07:58 -0700, Kurt Nicklas
<nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote:
On Aug 24, 1:40 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Whoops! Did the "Designer" forget something?
<image at site>
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NRAO
Astronomers Find Enormous Hole in the Universe
Maybe it's where all the atheists go when they die?
Maybe it's where Ford Pintos go when they die. But there's no reason
to believe that either.
I thought atheists went into the ground - or urns - when they die. Like
pretty much everyone else.
Depends on their overall lifetime urnings.....
I'm leaving my body to science fiction.
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P.S. Do I have to call you names to get you to answer?
-- C Johnson
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| User: "stoney" |
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11 Sep 2007 09:54:49 AM |
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On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:49:10 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:47:29 -0700, stoney wrote:
On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 14:09:34 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:36:14 -0500, Backyard Astronomer wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:07:58 -0700, Kurt Nicklas
<nicklask@bellsouth.net> wrote:
On Aug 24, 1:40 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Whoops! Did the "Designer" forget something?
<image at site>
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NRAO
Astronomers Find Enormous Hole in the Universe
Maybe it's where all the atheists go when they die?
Maybe it's where Ford Pintos go when they die. But there's no reason
to believe that either.
I thought atheists went into the ground - or urns - when they die. Like
pretty much everyone else.
Depends on their overall lifetime urnings.....
I'm leaving my body to science fiction.
Butt watt aboat seance friction?
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| User: "Backyard Astronomer" |
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26 Aug 2007 03:11:50 AM |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:40:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Astronomers have found an enormous hole in the Universe, nearly a
billion light-years across, empty of both normal matter
God's *****?
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Astronomers Find Enormous Hole in the Universe |
27 Aug 2007 06:27:20 PM |
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In article <fcd2d39kgpf76h8u54vke8tsuir5tlphji@4ax.com>,
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:40:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Astronomers have found an enormous hole in the Universe, nearly a
billion light-years across, empty of both normal matter
God's *****?
From whence the universe emerged. The new theist theory of the "Big
Bang".
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Hatter" |
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28 Aug 2007 08:04:11 AM |
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On Aug 27, 7:27 pm, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <fcd2d39kgpf76h8u54vke8tsuir5tlp...@4ax.com>,
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastrono...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:40:56 -0700, johac
<jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Astronomers have found an enormous hole in the Universe, nearly a
billion light-years across, empty of both normal matter
God's *****?
From whence the universe emerged. The new theist theory of the "Big
Bang".
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
Hey...you...Lightbringer, pull my finger.
Hatter
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| User: "Backyard Astronomer" |
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| Title: Re: Astronomers Find Enormous Hole in the Universe |
27 Aug 2007 07:30:01 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:27:20 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <fcd2d39kgpf76h8u54vke8tsuir5tlphji@4ax.com>,
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:40:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Astronomers have found an enormous hole in the Universe, nearly a
billion light-years across, empty of both normal matter
God's *****?
From whence the universe emerged. The new theist theory of the "Big
Bang".
"Big Bung" has a nice ring to it.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Astronomers Find Enormous Hole in the Universe |
28 Aug 2007 12:37:42 AM |
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In article <s2r6d3lq1ufbn2ql96mu0ksrlc83o5hdhs@4ax.com>,
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:27:20 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <fcd2d39kgpf76h8u54vke8tsuir5tlphji@4ax.com>,
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:40:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Astronomers have found an enormous hole in the Universe, nearly a
billion light-years across, empty of both normal matter
God's *****?
From whence the universe emerged. The new theist theory of the "Big
Bang".
"Big Bung" has a nice ring to it.
GAWD's bung, by GAWD!
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Backyard Astronomer" |
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| Title: Re: Astronomers Find Enormous Hole in the Universe |
28 Aug 2007 03:26:36 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:37:42 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <s2r6d3lq1ufbn2ql96mu0ksrlc83o5hdhs@4ax.com>,
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:27:20 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <fcd2d39kgpf76h8u54vke8tsuir5tlphji@4ax.com>,
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:40:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Astronomers have found an enormous hole in the Universe, nearly a
billion light-years across, empty of both normal matter
God's *****?
From whence the universe emerged. The new theist theory of the "Big
Bang".
"Big Bung" has a nice ring to it.
GAWD's bung, by GAWD!
The Holy Hole!
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Astronomers Find Enormous Hole in the Universe |
29 Aug 2007 12:27:31 AM |
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In article <0719d3930v6st6j8g4lqq6isj1h4u7qsrr@4ax.com>,
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:37:42 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <s2r6d3lq1ufbn2ql96mu0ksrlc83o5hdhs@4ax.com>,
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:27:20 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <fcd2d39kgpf76h8u54vke8tsuir5tlphji@4ax.com>,
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:40:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Astronomers have found an enormous hole in the Universe, nearly a
billion light-years across, empty of both normal matter
God's *****?
From whence the universe emerged. The new theist theory of the "Big
Bang".
"Big Bung" has a nice ring to it.
GAWD's bung, by GAWD!
The Holy Hole!
The sacred sphincter!
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "stoney" |
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01 Sep 2007 08:09:32 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:40:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Whoops! Did the "Designer" forget something?
<image at site>
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NRAO
Astronomers Find Enormous Hole in the Universe
It's the Bung Hole!
aaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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| User: "Clive - Selectron" |
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24 Aug 2007 04:38:41 AM |
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The void is where god lives...but as we all know
he don't exist hence hole.
-C-
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Global Warming: I'll believe it's a crisis
when the people who say it's a crisis
start acting like it's a crisis."
Glenn Reynolds (whoever he is but
he's hit the nail on the head)
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-251BD9.22405623082007@news.giganews.com...
Whoops! Did the "Designer" forget something?
<image at site>
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NRAO
Astronomers Find Enormous Hole in the Universe
Astronomers have found an enormous hole in the Universe, nearly a
billion light-years across, empty of both normal matter such as stars,
galaxies, and gas, and the mysterious, unseen "dark matter." While
earlier studies have shown holes, or voids, in the large-scale structure
of the Universe, this new discovery dwarfs them all.
"Not only has no one ever found a void this big, but we never even
expected to find one this size," said Lawrence Rudnick of the University
of Minnesota. Rudnick, along with Shea Brown and Liliya R. Williams,
also of the University of Minnesota, reported their findings in a paper
accepted for publication in the Astrophysical Journal.
Astronomers have known for years that, on large scales, the Universe has
voids largely empty of matter. However, most of these voids are much
smaller than the one found by Rudnick and his colleagues. In addition,
the number of discovered voids decreases as the size increases.
"What we've found is not normal, based on either observational studies
or on computer simulations of the large-scale evolution of the
Universe," Williams said.
The astronomers drew their conclusion by studying data from the NRAO VLA
Sky Survey (NVSS), a project that imaged the entire sky visible to the
Very Large Array (VLA) radio telescope, part of the National Science
Foundation's National Radio Astronomy Observatory (NRAO). Their careful
study of the NVSS data showed a remarkable drop in the number of
galaxies in a region of sky in the constellation Eridanus.
"We already knew there was something different about this spot in the
sky," Rudnick said. The region had been dubbed the "WMAP Cold Spot,"
because it stood out in a map of the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB)
radiation made by the Wilkinson Microwave Anisotopy Probe (WMAP)
satellite, launched by NASA in 2001. The CMB, faint radio waves that are
the remnant radiation from the Big Bang, is the earliest "baby picture"
available of the Universe. Irregularities in the CMB show structures
that existed only a few hundred thousand years after the Big Bang.
The WMAP satellite measured temperature differences in the CMB that are
only millionths of a degree. The cold region in Eridanus was discovered
in 2004.
Astronomers wondered if the cold spot was intrinsic to the CMB, and thus
indicated some structure in the very early Universe, or whether it could
be caused by something more nearby through which the CMB had to pass on
its way to Earth. Finding the dearth of galaxies in that region by
studying NVSS data resolved that question.
"Although our surprising results need independent confirmation, the
slightly colder temperature of the CMB in this region appears to be
caused by a huge hole devoid of nearly all matter roughly 6-10 billion
light-years from Earth," Rudnick said.
How does a lack of matter cause a cooler temperature in the Big Bang's
remnant radiation as seen from Earth?
Photons of the CMB gain a small amount of energy when they pass through
a region of space populated by matter. This effect is caused by the
enigmatic "dark energy" that is accelerating the expansion of the
Universe. This gain in photon energy makes the CMB appear slightly
warmer in that direction. When the photons pass through an empty void,
they lose a small amount of energy from this effect, and so the CMB
radiation passing through such a region appears cooler.
The acceleration of the Universe's expansion, and thus dark energy, were
discovered less than a decade ago. The physical properties of dark
energy are unknown, though it is by far the most abundant form of energy
in the Universe today. Learning its nature is one of the most
fundamental current problems in astrophysics.
The NVSS imaged the roughly 82 percent of the sky visible from the New
Mexico site of the VLA. The survey consists of 217,446 individual
observations that consumed 2,940 hours of telescope time between 1993
and 1997. A set of 2,326 images was produced from the data, and these
images are available via the NRAO Web site. The survey also produced a
catalog of more than 1.8 million individual objects identifiable in the
images. The NVSS has been cited in more than 1,200 scientific papers.
NASA's WMAP satellite, using microwave amplifiers produced by NRAO's
Central Development Laboratory, has yielded a wealth of new information
about the age and history of the Universe, the emergence of the first
stars, and the composition of the Universe. WMAP results have been
extensively cited by scientists in a wide variety of astrophysical
specialties.
The National Radio Astronomy Observatory is a facility of the National
Science Foundation, operated under cooperative agreement by Associated
Universities, Inc. This research at the University of Minnesota is
supported by individual investigator grants from the NSF and NASA. .
---
http://www.nrao.edu/pr/2007/coldspot/
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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