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"J McCoy" |
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11 Oct 2004 10:07:47 PM |
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Atheism can't explain this: |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6226729/?GT1=5472
JM
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| User: "Jez" |
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14 Oct 2004 08:13:45 AM |
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J McCoy wrote:
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote in message news:<Xns95816CCE13937vicman@127.0.0.1>...
on 13 Oct 2004 in alt.atheism, J McCoy dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:
That's a dumb statement. If God made it impossible for us to get
ourselves into trouble, then how could we learn caution, discernment,
wisdom and judgement?
Same way I did. It's called personal responsibility, something that is
sorely missed among the religious.
No. That's sorely missed among everyone.
Hey ! I'm responsible for my my own personal......you buggers can go buy
yer own.
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Jez
'Realism is seductive because once you have accepted the reasonable
notion that you should base your actions on reality, you are too often
led to accept, without much questioning, someone else's version of what
that reality is. It is a crucial act of independent thinking to be
skeptical of someone else's description of reality.'-
Howard Zinn
Skype callto://hellward
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: Atheism can't explain this: |
14 Oct 2004 10:05:58 PM |
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On 13 Oct 2004, J McCoy dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:<Xns95816CCE13937vicman@127.0.0.1>...
on 13 Oct 2004 in alt.atheism, J McCoy dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then shouted:
That's a dumb statement. If God made it impossible for us to get
ourselves into trouble, then how could we learn caution,
discernment, wisdom and judgement?
Same way I did. It's called personal responsibility, something that
is sorely missed among the religious.
No. That's sorely missed among everyone.
Now hold on just a minute, hoss. In a post previous to this one (the
text of which was snipped somewhere) YOU said:
That's a dumb question. Why would God try to control everything?
Man
was given personal responsibility. We suffer for our own
misjudgements all the time. There is no buffer wall for everything
that we do
If "god" gave Man personal responsibility, why is it missing among
*everyone*?
Are you full of *****?
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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Vote for John Kerry
God belongs in church, not the White House.
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| User: "Tukla Ratte" |
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| Title: Re: Atheism can't explain this: |
15 Oct 2004 08:02:31 AM |
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Vic Sagerquist wrote:
On 13 Oct 2004, J McCoy dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
< snip >
That's a dumb question. Why would God try to control everything?
Man
was given personal responsibility. We suffer for our own
misjudgements all the time. There is no buffer wall for everything
that we do
If "god" gave Man personal responsibility, why is it missing among
*everyone*?
Are you full of *****?
That's a rhetorical question, yes?
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Tukla, Eater of Theists, Squeaker of Chew Toys
Official Mascot of Alt.Atheism
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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15 Oct 2004 12:06:03 PM |
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on 15 Oct 2004 in alt.atheism, Tukla Ratte dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then shouted:
Vic Sagerquist wrote:
On 13 Oct 2004, J McCoy dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
< snip >
That's a dumb question. Why would God try to control everything?
Man
was given personal responsibility. We suffer for our own
misjudgements all the time. There is no buffer wall for everything
that we do
If "god" gave Man personal responsibility, why is it missing among
*everyone*?
Are you full of *****?
That's a rhetorical question, yes?
Of course. But I still think he's full of *****.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree?
Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to be
as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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12 Oct 2004 11:58:23 AM |
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"J McCoy" <mccoy@sunset.net> wrote in message
news:3f355ee.0410120711.430a35e0@posting.google.com...
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:<Xns957FD5D1AEF33vicman@63.240.76.16>...
On 11 Oct 2004, J McCoy dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6226729/?GT1=5472
JM
I am imagining you are insinuating there was some kind of devine
assistance
in finding Laura Hatch. That only makes me wonder why the god allowed
her
to be in the wreck in the first place.
That's a dumb question. Why would God try to control everything? Man
was given personal responsibility. We suffer for our own
misjudgements all the time. There is no buffer wall for everything
that we do.
Wow! You just answered your own question and described how atheism can
explain the event. See, that wasn't so hard.
Just imagine, you actually agree with us atheists that a god had no hand in
the event.
Bravo, you're getting better. Now you just have to drop the whole god-belief
thing, and you'll be cured.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Elf M. Sternberg" |
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12 Oct 2004 12:08:22 PM |
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(J McCoy) writes:
That's a dumb question. Why would God try to control everything? Man
was given personal responsibility. We suffer for our own
misjudgements all the time. There is no buffer wall for everything
that we do.
There was for this girl. Or are you lying again?
Elf
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| User: "stoney" |
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20 Oct 2004 07:56:09 PM |
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On 12 Oct 2004 10:08:22 -0700, "Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com>
wrote:
mccoy@sunset.net (J McCoy) writes:
That's a dumb question. Why would God try to control everything? Man
was given personal responsibility. We suffer for our own
misjudgements all the time. There is no buffer wall for everything
that we do.
There was for this girl. Or are you lying again?
With nameless its "still."
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
No matter the candidates the superstition industry wins.
'Jesus' is a sock-puppet Christians utilize to add 'authority' to
whatever action they intend on taking. -Stoney
And Duty Imp and Rapscallion
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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13 Oct 2004 03:02:59 PM |
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In article <3f355ee.0410120711.430a35e0@posting.google.com> (J McCoy) writes:
<Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote in message news:<Xns957FD5D1AEF33vicman@63.240.76.16>...
<> On 11 Oct 2004, J McCoy dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
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<> > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6226729/?GT1=5472
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<> > JM
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<> I am imagining you are insinuating there was some kind of devine assistance
<> in finding Laura Hatch. That only makes me wonder why the god allowed her
<> to be in the wreck in the first place.
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<That's a dumb question. Why would God try to control everything? Man
<was given personal responsibility.
Could God not foresee the disasterous consequences? You let a fifteen
year old use matches, but unless you're incredibly shortsighted, you
do not let a two year old play with them. I would hope that God
is at least this prescient.
We suffer for our own
<misjudgements all the time. There is no buffer wall for everything
<that we do.
Somehow I doubt that the Jews at Auschwitz felt uplifted that God
had granted the Germans the free will to explore the moral world
and thereby learn from their experiences.
-- cary
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| User: "X" |
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12 Oct 2004 10:52:48 AM |
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J McCoy wrote:
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote in message news:<Xns957FD5D1AEF33vicman@63.240.76.16>...
On 11 Oct 2004, J McCoy dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6226729/?GT1=5472
JM
I am imagining you are insinuating there was some kind of devine assistance
in finding Laura Hatch. That only makes me wonder why the god allowed her
to be in the wreck in the first place.
That's a dumb question. Why would God try to control everything?
There is no God.
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| User: "Virgil" |
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12 Oct 2004 02:52:16 PM |
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In article <g5Tad.167179$wV.26284@attbi_s54>, X <X@nospam.net> wrote:
J McCoy wrote:
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:<Xns957FD5D1AEF33vicman@63.240.76.16>...
On 11 Oct 2004, J McCoy dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6226729/?GT1=5472
JM
I am imagining you are insinuating there was some kind of devine assistance
in finding Laura Hatch. That only makes me wonder why the god allowed her
to be in the wreck in the first place.
That's a dumb question. Why would God try to control everything?
There is no God.
There might be no god, but even Bertrand Russell was not as absolutely
certain of it as Septic X Capon, the Simple Pimple, claims to be.
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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12 Oct 2004 03:28:24 PM |
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On 12 Oct 2004, Virgil dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
In article <g5Tad.167179$wV.26284@attbi_s54>, X <X@nospam.net> wrote:
There is no God.
There might be no god, but even Bertrand Russell was not as absolutely
certain of it as Septic X Capon, the Simple Pimple, claims to be.
I'm probably more absolutely certain there is no god than Russell. So
what? There are as many degrees of atheism as there are atheists.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________
Vote for John Kerry
God belongs in church, not the White House.
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| User: "Graham Kennedy" |
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12 Oct 2004 04:16:28 PM |
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J McCoy wrote:
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote in message news:<Xns957FD5D1AEF33vicman@63.240.76.16>...
On 11 Oct 2004, J McCoy dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6226729/?GT1=5472
JM
I am imagining you are insinuating there was some kind of devine assistance
in finding Laura Hatch. That only makes me wonder why the god allowed her
to be in the wreck in the first place.
That's a dumb question. Why would God try to control everything? Man
was given personal responsibility. We suffer for our own
misjudgements all the time. There is no buffer wall for everything
that we do.
Then why help her be found?
Seems to me god is either going to help or he isn't. If he
is going to help, he should have stopped the wreck. If he
wasn't going to help, then he shouldn't have helped her
be found.
Either way, god screwed up. Or, just possibly, there was no
god involved one way or the other!
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| User: "Puck Greenman" |
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13 Oct 2004 01:21:46 PM |
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On 12 Oct 2004 08:11:43 -0700, (J McCoy) wrote:
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote in message news:<Xns957FD5D1AEF33vicman@63.240.76.16>...
On 11 Oct 2004, J McCoy dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6226729/?GT1=5472
JM
I am imagining you are insinuating there was some kind of devine assistance
in finding Laura Hatch. That only makes me wonder why the god allowed her
to be in the wreck in the first place.
That's a dumb question.
Well, it's a dunb fucker, he is asking.
Why would God try to control everything? Man
was given personal responsibility.
It's your god, you tell us.
Puck Greenman
#162
BAAWA Knight.
Blessed is the self righteous xtian,
for his is the sure and certain knowledge
that no matter what load of tripe he
comes out with:
God told him to say it.
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| User: "LP" |
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12 Oct 2004 02:44:28 PM |
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On 12 Oct 2004 08:11:43 -0700, (J McCoy) wrote:
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote in message news:<Xns957FD5D1AEF33vicman@63.240.76.16>...
On 11 Oct 2004, J McCoy dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6226729/?GT1=5472
JM
I am imagining you are insinuating there was some kind of devine assistance
in finding Laura Hatch. That only makes me wonder why the god allowed her
to be in the wreck in the first place.
That's a dumb question. Why would God try to control everything? Man
was given personal responsibility. We suffer for our own
misjudgements all the time. There is no buffer wall for everything
that we do.
Millions of human babies have been born without legs, without arms,
without functional hearts, without functional brains. Are these babies
examples of those who suffer from their own misjudgments?
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| User: "JessHC" |
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13 Oct 2004 07:26:42 PM |
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LP <whirl_pool@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<39com0hlbn23keust6k9qn7o1d6hsaji3j@4ax.com>...
On 12 Oct 2004 08:11:43 -0700, (J McCoy) wrote:
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote in message news:<Xns957FD5D1AEF33vicman@63.240.76.16>...
On 11 Oct 2004, J McCoy dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6226729/?GT1=5472
JM
I am imagining you are insinuating there was some kind of devine assistance
in finding Laura Hatch. That only makes me wonder why the god allowed her
to be in the wreck in the first place.
That's a dumb question. Why would God try to control everything? Man
was given personal responsibility. We suffer for our own
misjudgements all the time. There is no buffer wall for everything
that we do.
Millions of human babies have been born without legs, without arms,
without functional hearts, without functional brains. Are these babies
examples of those who suffer from their own misjudgments?
Of course not. The lesson there is don't have sinful parents, or
you'll be punished.
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| User: "Barry OGrady" |
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12 Oct 2004 07:42:48 PM |
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On 12 Oct 2004 08:11:43 -0700, (J McCoy) wrote:
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote in message news:<Xns957FD5D1AEF33vicman@63.240.76.16>...
On 11 Oct 2004, J McCoy dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6226729/?GT1=5472
JM
I am imagining you are insinuating there was some kind of devine assistance
in finding Laura Hatch. That only makes me wonder why the god allowed her
to be in the wreck in the first place.
That's a dumb question. Why would God try to control everything? Man
was given personal responsibility. We suffer for our own
misjudgements all the time. There is no buffer wall for everything
that we do.
Not only that but God loves to watch us suffer. Train wrecks occur when God gets bored.
God must have been really bored on 11/9/01!
One thing we can say for certain is that there us no good God.
JM
-Barry
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Web page: http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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12 Oct 2004 11:08:19 AM |
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On 12 Oct 2004, J McCoy dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:<Xns957FD5D1AEF33vicman@63.240.76.16>...
On 11 Oct 2004, J McCoy dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6226729/?GT1=5472
JM
I am imagining you are insinuating there was some kind of devine
assistance in finding Laura Hatch. That only makes me wonder why the
god allowed her to be in the wreck in the first place.
That's a dumb question. Why would God try to control everything? Man
was given personal responsibility. We suffer for our own
misjudgements all the time. There is no buffer wall for everything
that we do.
Which would mean there is no divine plan, right? If man has free will, the
god is not omniscient.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________
Vote for John Kerry
God belongs in church, not the White House.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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12 Oct 2004 12:07:51 PM |
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:11:43 -0700 in episode
<3f355ee.0410120711.430a35e0@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
mccoy@sunset.net (J McCoy):
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:<Xns957FD5D1AEF33vicman@63.240.76.16>...
On 11 Oct 2004, J McCoy dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6226729/?GT1=5472
JM
I am imagining you are insinuating there was some kind of devine
assistance in finding Laura Hatch. That only makes me wonder why the
god allowed her to be in the wreck in the first place.
That's a dumb question. Why would God try to control everything? Man was
given personal responsibility. We suffer for our own misjudgements all
the time. There is no buffer wall for everything that we do.
You mean your god let someone suffer so he could pull a magic trick?
--
This sig closed for repairs.
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| User: "stoney" |
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20 Oct 2004 07:55:44 PM |
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:07:51 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:11:43 -0700 in episode
<3f355ee.0410120711.430a35e0@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
mccoy@sunset.net (J McCoy):
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:<Xns957FD5D1AEF33vicman@63.240.76.16>...
On 11 Oct 2004, J McCoy dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6226729/?GT1=5472
JM
I am imagining you are insinuating there was some kind of devine
assistance in finding Laura Hatch. That only makes me wonder why the
god allowed her to be in the wreck in the first place.
That's a dumb question. Why would God try to control everything? Man was
given personal responsibility. We suffer for our own misjudgements all
the time. There is no buffer wall for everything that we do.
You mean your god let someone suffer so he could pull a magic trick?
Not 'let.' Scripted.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
No matter the candidates the superstition industry wins.
'Jesus' is a sock-puppet Christians utilize to add 'authority' to
whatever action they intend on taking. -Stoney
And Duty Imp and Rapscallion
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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12 Oct 2004 12:04:09 PM |
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 20:07:47 -0700 in episode
<3f355ee.0410111907.44417cd1@posting.google.com> we saw our hero
mccoy@sunset.net (J McCoy):
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6226729/?GT1=5472
What's to explain?
Anyway, "atheism" can't "explain" things. It also can't get your whites
whiter and your colors brighter. Nor will it leave your breath minty
fresh. Nor can it do your algebra.
What a stupid thing to say "atheism can't explain."
Oh, wait, you're McNameless. You only say stupid things...
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This sig closed for repairs.
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| User: "Phillip Brown" |
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11 Oct 2004 10:30:47 PM |
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 20:07:47 -0700, J McCoy wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6226729/?GT1=5472
JM
That friend of her mother sounds like she is a witch - I mean seeing stuff
in dreams, hearing voices - that's as close to fortune telling and
witchcraft as it gets - she should be stoned or burned or something. I
bet she probably had something to so with the accident - voodoo or
something.
phillip brown
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