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"K C" |
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22 Apr 2004 10:31:27 AM |
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atheism defensiveness |
I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting. Amazing how so many
people that claim to be atheist (don't believe in God) or agnostic
(don't care if there is a God) get so riled up when you question
atheism. I mean, if religion is just a myth and these are just
logical people dismissing religion, why should they care if I question
them. If they truely think atheism is fact, what does it matter if I
don't accept it. Further proof for my point, I guess.
http://beingone.20m.com/providence.html
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| User: "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" |
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| Title: Re: atheism defensiveness |
22 Apr 2004 11:27:41 AM |
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"K C" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
Here's some attention for you.
Num num!
There's the nice little troll.
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| User: "sparkup" |
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| Title: Re: atheism defensiveness |
22 Apr 2004 10:40:07 AM |
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"K C" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e88a6c8b.0404220731.2b986f50@posting.google.com...
I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting. Amazing how so many
people that claim to be atheist (don't believe in God) or agnostic
(don't care if there is a God) get so riled up when you question
atheism. I mean, if religion is just a myth and these are just
logical people dismissing religion, why should they care if I question
them. If they truely think atheism is fact, what does it matter if I
don't accept it. Further proof for my point, I guess.
No-one gives a ***** what you believe, but when you barge into an atheist NG
spouting your religious nonsense, people will get ***** with you.
http://beingone.20m.com/providence.html
ROFL!
This site attributes a bible quote to God....how dumb can you get.
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| User: "Byron Canfield" |
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| Title: Re: atheism defensiveness |
22 Apr 2004 09:11:26 PM |
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"sparkup" <junksender888@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:XIRhc.5279$qP2.13118@news.indigo.ie...
"K C" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e88a6c8b.0404220731.2b986f50@posting.google.com...
I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting. Amazing how so many
people that claim to be atheist (don't believe in God) or agnostic
(don't care if there is a God) get so riled up when you question
atheism. I mean, if religion is just a myth and these are just
logical people dismissing religion, why should they care if I question
them. If they truely think atheism is fact, what does it matter if I
don't accept it. Further proof for my point, I guess.
No-one gives a ***** what you believe, but when you barge into an atheist
NG
spouting your religious nonsense, people will get ***** with you.
Furthermore, notice how Ken refers to his attacks as "questioning".
How can anybody really be that stupid?
--
Byron "Barn" Canfield
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"Politics is a strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles."
-- Ambrose Bierce
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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| Title: Re: atheism defensiveness |
22 Apr 2004 10:22:09 PM |
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On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 21:11:26 -0500, Byron Canfield wrote
(in message <iX_hc.6582$IW1.586780@attbi_s52>):
"sparkup" <junksender888@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:XIRhc.5279$qP2.13118@news.indigo.ie...
"K C" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e88a6c8b.0404220731.2b986f50@posting.google.com...
I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting. Amazing how so many
people that claim to be atheist (don't believe in God) or agnostic
(don't care if there is a God) get so riled up when you question
atheism. I mean, if religion is just a myth and these are just
logical people dismissing religion, why should they care if I question
them. If they truely think atheism is fact, what does it matter if I
don't accept it. Further proof for my point, I guess.
No-one gives a ***** what you believe, but when you barge into an atheist
NG
spouting your religious nonsense, people will get ***** with you.
Furthermore, notice how Ken refers to his attacks as "questioning".
I guess it's like the Allies "questioned" the
Axis Powers during World War Two.
How can anybody really be that stupid?
Practice.
Gray Shockley
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For every complex problem there is an answer
that is clear, simple, and wrong. - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: atheism defensiveness |
23 Apr 2004 11:31:40 AM |
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In article <0001HW.BCADF6110006484115B1DF50@news.giganews.com> Gray Shockley <gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> writes:
<On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 21:11:26 -0500, Byron Canfield wrote
<(in message <iX_hc.6582$IW1.586780@attbi_s52>):
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<> "sparkup" <junksender888@hotmail.com> wrote in message
<> news:XIRhc.5279$qP2.13118@news.indigo.ie...
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<>> "K C" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
<>> news:e88a6c8b.0404220731.2b986f50@posting.google.com...
<>>> I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting. Amazing how so many
<>>> people that claim to be atheist (don't believe in God) or agnostic
<>>> (don't care if there is a God) get so riled up when you question
<>>> atheism. I mean, if religion is just a myth and these are just
<>>> logical people dismissing religion, why should they care if I question
<>>> them. If they truely think atheism is fact, what does it matter if I
<>>> don't accept it. Further proof for my point, I guess.
<>>
<>> No-one gives a ***** what you believe, but when you barge into an atheist
<> NG
<>> spouting your religious nonsense, people will get ***** with you.
<>
<> Furthermore, notice how Ken refers to his attacks as "questioning".
<>
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<I guess it's like the Allies "questioned" the
<Axis Powers during World War Two.
I don't know if they see this a lot on `alt.atheism', but disingenuity
was a fairly common ploy over on `sci.skeptic'. Many a poster
popped up there, unaware that this tactic had been thought of, repeatedly,
by many others in the past, to launch into something along the
lines of "Well, I sure don't know very much about evolution <blink>
<blink>, but I was just wondering of someone could <simper> explain
to me how..." and then fling down a list of The Ten Tiredest and Most
Refuted Creationist Objections to Evolution Ever. You got so you
could smell them coming.
-- cary
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| User: "Gray Shockley" |
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| Title: Re: atheism defensiveness |
23 Apr 2004 02:48:57 PM |
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:31:40 -0500, Cary Kittrell wrote
(in message <c6bgdc$a3h$1@oasis.ccit.arizona.edu>):
In article <0001HW.BCADF6110006484115B1DF50@news.giganews.com> Gray Shockley
<gray-87a@cybercoffee.org> writes:
<On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 21:11:26 -0500, Byron Canfield wrote
<(in message <iX_hc.6582$IW1.586780@attbi_s52>):
<
<> "sparkup" <junksender888@hotmail.com> wrote in message
<> news:XIRhc.5279$qP2.13118@news.indigo.ie...
<>>
<>> "K C" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
<>> news:e88a6c8b.0404220731.2b986f50@posting.google.com...
<>>> I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting. Amazing how so many
<>>> people that claim to be atheist (don't believe in God) or agnostic
<>>> (don't care if there is a God) get so riled up when you question
<>>> atheism. I mean, if religion is just a myth and these are just
<>>> logical people dismissing religion, why should they care if I question
<>>> them. If they truely think atheism is fact, what does it matter if I
<>>> don't accept it. Further proof for my point, I guess.
<>>
<>> No-one gives a ***** what you believe, but when you barge into an atheist
<> NG
<>> spouting your religious nonsense, people will get ***** with you.
<>
<> Furthermore, notice how Ken refers to his attacks as "questioning".
<>
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<I guess it's like the Allies "questioned" the
<Axis Powers during World War Two.
I don't know if they see this a lot on `alt.atheism', but disingenuity
was a fairly common ploy over on `sci.skeptic'. Many a poster
popped up there, unaware that this tactic had been thought of, repeatedly,
by many others in the past, to launch into something along the
lines of "Well, I sure don't know very much about evolution <blink>
<blink>, but I was just wondering of someone could <simper> explain
to me how..." and then fling down a list of The Ten Tiredest and Most
Refuted Creationist Objections to Evolution Ever. You got so you
could smell them coming.
-- cary
Yup; it's the same on misc.taxes. The tax evaders come up on the newsgroup
with their mis-quotes from the Constitution (usually the "Clause 17"
silliness) or from the USC and try to act offended when they are
body-slammed.
It's particularly amusing because the majority of these "pay-triots" post
anonymously and appear to be fifteen or twenty folks when it's actually only
three or three and a-half.
Gray Shockley
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When trouble arises and things look bad, there is always one
individual who perceives a solution and is willing to take
command. Very often, that individual is crazy. -Author Unk
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| User: "Editor of EvilBible.com" |
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| Title: Re: atheism defensiveness |
22 Apr 2004 10:50:30 AM |
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"K C" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e88a6c8b.0404220731.2b986f50@posting.google.com...
I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting. Amazing how so many
people that claim to be atheist (don't believe in God) or agnostic
(don't care if there is a God) get so riled up when you question
atheism. I mean, if religion is just a myth and these are just
logical people dismissing religion, why should they care if I question
them. If they truely think atheism is fact, what does it matter if I
don't accept it. Further proof for my point, I guess.
We get riled up because religious fanatics want to kill other people. For
example, look at the World Trade Center, 3000 people dead because of
religious beliefs.
Not to mention the Christian religion of George W. Bush that refuses to
allow scientists to use stem cells to find cures for deadly and
incapacitating diseases.
What about the conflicts between the Muslims and the Israelis? The main
cause of this is religion.
Not to mention the conflict between the two nuclear powers India and
Pakistan. Are we supposed to just twiddle our thumbs until one of them
thinks that their God tells them to press the button?
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| User: "Dana @@" |
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| Title: Re: atheism defensiveness |
22 Apr 2004 07:36:30 PM |
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"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
news:cPOdnbDJztNHdBrd4p2dnA@adelphia.com...
"K C" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting. Amazing how so many
people that claim to be atheist (don't believe in God) or agnostic
(don't care if there is a God) get so riled up when you question
atheism.
Please do not lump Agnostics in with the Atheists.
I mean, if religion is just a myth and these are just
logical people dismissing religion, why should they care if I question
them. If they truely think atheism is fact, what does it matter if I
don't accept it. Further proof for my point, I guess.
We get riled up because religious fanatics want to kill other people. For
example, look at the World Trade Center,
Here is your first mistake. The attack on the WTC was not over religion.
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| User: "Editor of EvilBible.com" |
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23 Apr 2004 08:14:42 AM |
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"Dana" <@@> wrote in message
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"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
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"K C" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting. Amazing how so many
people that claim to be atheist (don't believe in God) or agnostic
(don't care if there is a God) get so riled up when you question
atheism.
Please do not lump Agnostics in with the Atheists.
I mean, if religion is just a myth and these are just
logical people dismissing religion, why should they care if I question
them. If they truely think atheism is fact, what does it matter if I
don't accept it. Further proof for my point, I guess.
We get riled up because religious fanatics want to kill other people.
For
example, look at the World Trade Center,
Here is your first mistake. The attack on the WTC was not over religion.
The World Trade Center attack was most certainly caused because of religion.
Your failure to realize that probably means your IQ in the bottom 1%.
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| User: "Dana @@" |
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| Title: Re: atheism defensiveness |
23 Apr 2004 11:12:37 PM |
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"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
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"Dana" <@@> wrote in message
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"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
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"K C" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting. Amazing how so many
people that claim to be atheist (don't believe in God) or agnostic
(don't care if there is a God) get so riled up when you question
atheism.
Please do not lump Agnostics in with the Atheists.
I mean, if religion is just a myth and these are just
logical people dismissing religion, why should they care if I
question
them. If they truely think atheism is fact, what does it matter if
I
don't accept it. Further proof for my point, I guess.
We get riled up because religious fanatics want to kill other people.
For
example, look at the World Trade Center,
Here is your first mistake. The attack on the WTC was not over religion.
The World Trade Center attack was most certainly caused because of
religion.
Actually you are incorrect. The attack on the WTC had nothing to do with
religion.
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| User: "Editor of EvilBible.com" |
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24 Apr 2004 09:07:08 AM |
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"Dana" <@@> wrote in message
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"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
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"Dana" <@@> wrote in message
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"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
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"K C" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e88a6c8b.0404220731.2b986f50@posting.google.com...
I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting. Amazing how so many
people that claim to be atheist (don't believe in God) or agnostic
(don't care if there is a God) get so riled up when you question
atheism.
Please do not lump Agnostics in with the Atheists.
I mean, if religion is just a myth and these are just
logical people dismissing religion, why should they care if I
question
them. If they truely think atheism is fact, what does it matter
if
I
don't accept it. Further proof for my point, I guess.
We get riled up because religious fanatics want to kill other
people.
For
example, look at the World Trade Center,
Here is your first mistake. The attack on the WTC was not over
religion.
The World Trade Center attack was most certainly caused because of
religion.
Actually you are incorrect. The attack on the WTC had nothing to do with
religion.
The WTC attack had EVERYTHING to do with religion. How fucking stupid can
you get?
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: atheism defensiveness |
24 Apr 2004 09:26:43 AM |
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In article <e7idnfBJlKMD6RfdRVn-jw@adelphia.com> "Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> writes:
<
<"Dana" <@@> wrote in message
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<> "Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
<> news:w-6dnX6G8qxYixTdRVn-jA@adelphia.com...
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<> > "Dana" <@@> wrote in message
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<religion.
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<> > The World Trade Center attack was most certainly caused because of
<> religion.
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<> Actually you are incorrect. The attack on the WTC had nothing to do with
<> religion.
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<The WTC attack had EVERYTHING to do with religion. How fucking stupid can
<you get?
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<
What? What? Just because that Osama guy has said things like:
"Rise in support of your religion. Islam is calling you,"
said bin Laden, the US' prime suspect for the Sept. 11
hijack attacks on New York and Washington.
Appearing in a new videotaped statement, the Saudi-born militant
sought to convince Muslims that it was their duty to side with him
against what he called a Christian "crusade" led by US President
George W. Bush against Islam.
"This war is primarily a religious war," he said.
[Nov 5th, 2001]
or this?:
"If the instigation for jihad (holy war) against the Jews and the
Americans ... is considered a crime, then let history be a witness
that I am a criminal," bin Laden told Time magazine in an interview
published in January 1999.
or this?:
"We have been following anxiously the preparations of the crusaders to
conquer the former capital of Islam and steal their wealth and impose a
puppet regime that follows its masters in Washington and Tel Aviv, just
like these Arab governments, in order to create what is called greater
Israel. This is a war led by the infidels, by America and its spies
and agents. ..."
"We need your intention to be to fight for the sake of God, not for
nationalism or any infidel regime, including Iraq. ... "
you think it somehow has something to do with RELIGION?
Geez, I don't see why...
-- cary
references:
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2001/11/05/110146
http://www.jsonline.com/news/nat/sep01/binladen091201.asp
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/02/11/binladen.excerpts/
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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23 Apr 2004 09:42:04 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Fri, 23 Apr 2004 00:36:30 GMT, a stranger
called by some "Dana" <@@> came forth and told this tale in
alt.atheism
Here is your first mistake. The attack on the WTC was not over religion.
You can't be that naive!
Go read something about al-Qaeda. Osama's crusade against the US
began after the Gulf War when US troops were permantly stationed in
Saudi Arabia.
To the Wahabi school of fundamentlist Islam, the soil of S.A. is in of
itself holt, since Mecca and Medina are in that nation. *That* is
when al-Qaeda began targeting American targets.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "Dana @@" |
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23 Apr 2004 10:06:58 PM |
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
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Lo, many moons past, on Fri, 23 Apr 2004 00:36:30 GMT, a stranger
called by some "Dana" <@@> came forth and told this tale in
alt.atheism
Here is your first mistake. The attack on the WTC was not over religion.
You can't be that naive!
Go read something about al-Qaeda.
Maybe you should. It is apparent you are clueless in regards to the nature
of men.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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24 Apr 2004 01:09:03 PM |
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Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 24 Apr 2004 03:06:58 GMT, a stranger
called by some "Dana" <@@> came forth and told this tale in
alt.atheism
"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
news:6qkj8053fn6j1vtubvb839jfubne93294g@4ax.com...
Lo, many moons past, on Fri, 23 Apr 2004 00:36:30 GMT, a stranger
called by some "Dana" <@@> came forth and told this tale in
alt.atheism
Here is your first mistake. The attack on the WTC was not over religion.
You can't be that naive!
Go read something about al-Qaeda.
Maybe you should. It is apparent you are clueless in regards to the nature
of men.
Nom answer to actual facts. I've been following the growth of anti-US
Islamict fantacism since the mid-1980s. In the later stages of the
Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, a muhjadeen commander named Osama
bin-Laden worked with the CIA and gladly gave them gifts. His focus
was on the Soviets and Israel until the 1990 arrival of troops in
Saudi Arabia.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"
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| User: "JPG" |
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| Title: Re: atheism defensiveness |
23 Apr 2004 01:53:44 AM |
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 00:36:30 GMT, "Dana" <@@> wrote:
"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
news:cPOdnbDJztNHdBrd4p2dnA@adelphia.com...
"K C" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e88a6c8b.0404220731.2b986f50@posting.google.com...
I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting. Amazing how so many
people that claim to be atheist (don't believe in God) or agnostic
(don't care if there is a God) get so riled up when you question
atheism.
Please do not lump Agnostics in with the Atheists.
I mean, if religion is just a myth and these are just
logical people dismissing religion, why should they care if I question
them. If they truely think atheism is fact, what does it matter if I
don't accept it. Further proof for my point, I guess.
We get riled up because religious fanatics want to kill other people. For
example, look at the World Trade Center,
Here is your first mistake. The attack on the WTC was not over religion.
It was about different world views that can ultimately be traced to religion.
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| User: "Emma Goldwoman" |
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| Title: Re: atheism defensiveness |
23 Apr 2004 05:54:38 AM |
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JPG <me@privacy.net> responded to "Dana Raffaniello" <dpraff@gci.net>
in message news:<07fh80909vvmjphislfisovsttgqi48bo8@4ax.com>...
"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
news:cPOdnbDJztNHdBrd4p2dnA@adelphia.com...
"K C" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e88a6c8b.0404220731.2b986f50@posting.google.com...
I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting. Amazing how so many
people that claim to be atheist (don't believe in God) or agnostic
(don't care if there is a God) get so riled up when you question
atheism.
Please do not lump Agnostics in with the Atheists.
Dana Raffaniello, assuming to be a spokesperson for atheists and
agnostics?
I mean, if religion is just a myth and these are just logical
people dismissing religion, why should they care if I question
them. If they truely think atheism is fact, what does it matter
if I don't accept it. Further proof for my point, I guess.
We get riled up because religious fanatics want to kill other people. For
example, look at the World Trade Center,
Here is your first mistake. The attack on the WTC was not over religion.
It was about different world views that can ultimately be traced to religion.
Religious beliefs were responsible for the perps being able to kill
themselves (and 3000 +/- folks) in carrying out their dasterdly deed.
Religious beliefs informed them that they would be rewarded for doing
so.
"Virgins in heaven" ring any chimes, Dana?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Well, Jordan, you're not going to believe what state I was in when I
heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my chief of
staff, Andy Card--actually I was in a classroom talking about a
reading program that works. And I was sitting outside the classroom
waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower--the TV was
obviously on, and I used to fly myself, and I said, 'There's one
terrible pilot.' And I said, 'It must have been a horrible accident."
--George Bush to a third-grader [see "What Did Bush See and When Did
He See It?" by Stephanie Schorow, in Boston Herald, Oct. 22, 2002, p.
48]
Bush told this lie at least twice. The first plane hitting the tower
was not broadcast live on television.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: atheism defensiveness |
23 Apr 2004 04:33:54 PM |
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 07:53:44 +0100, JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 00:36:30 GMT, "Dana" <@@> wrote:
"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
news:cPOdnbDJztNHdBrd4p2dnA@adelphia.com...
"K C" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e88a6c8b.0404220731.2b986f50@posting.google.com...
I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting. Amazing how so many
people that claim to be atheist (don't believe in God) or agnostic
(don't care if there is a God) get so riled up when you question
atheism.
Please do not lump Agnostics in with the Atheists.
I mean, if religion is just a myth and these are just
logical people dismissing religion, why should they care if I question
them. If they truely think atheism is fact, what does it matter if I
don't accept it. Further proof for my point, I guess.
We get riled up because religious fanatics want to kill other people. For
example, look at the World Trade Center,
Here is your first mistake. The attack on the WTC was not over religion.
It was about different world views that can ultimately be traced to religion.
No. It was about our interference in other cultures where they didn't
want us.
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| User: "Editor of EvilBible.com" |
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| Title: Re: atheism defensiveness |
24 Apr 2004 09:05:25 AM |
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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:aprh80td48cu1n18ednje44enodm008vpe@4ax.com...
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 07:53:44 +0100, JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 00:36:30 GMT, "Dana" <@@> wrote:
"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
news:cPOdnbDJztNHdBrd4p2dnA@adelphia.com...
"K C" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e88a6c8b.0404220731.2b986f50@posting.google.com...
I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting. Amazing how so many
people that claim to be atheist (don't believe in God) or agnostic
(don't care if there is a God) get so riled up when you question
atheism.
Please do not lump Agnostics in with the Atheists.
I mean, if religion is just a myth and these are just
logical people dismissing religion, why should they care if I
question
them. If they truely think atheism is fact, what does it matter if
I
don't accept it. Further proof for my point, I guess.
We get riled up because religious fanatics want to kill other people.
For
example, look at the World Trade Center,
Here is your first mistake. The attack on the WTC was not over religion.
It was about different world views that can ultimately be traced to
religion.
No. It was about our interference in other cultures where they didn't
want us.
I see your stupidity extends to current events too.
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| User: "Jd" |
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| Title: Re: atheism defensiveness |
22 Apr 2004 06:20:53 PM |
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Editor of EvilBible.com wrote:
"K C" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e88a6c8b.0404220731.2b986f50@posting.google.com...
I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting. Amazing how so many
people that claim to be atheist (don't believe in God) or agnostic
(don't care if there is a God) get so riled up when you question
atheism. I mean, if religion is just a myth and these are just
logical people dismissing religion, why should they care if I question
them. If they truely think atheism is fact, what does it matter if I
don't accept it. Further proof for my point, I guess.
We get riled up because religious fanatics want to kill other people. For
example, look at the World Trade Center, 3000 people dead because of
religious beliefs.
Not to mention the Christian religion of George W. Bush that refuses to
allow scientists to use stem cells to find cures for deadly and
incapacitating diseases.
What about the conflicts between the Muslims and the Israelis? The main
cause of this is religion.
Not to mention the conflict between the two nuclear powers India and
Pakistan. Are we supposed to just twiddle our thumbs until one of them
thinks that their God tells them to press the button?
no. vote Bush back in.
Jd
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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22 Apr 2004 07:37:43 PM |
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Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
news:ljrg805g03kpqqk13u8tshr3n5jrkt7p8q@4ax.com:
Editor of EvilBible.com wrote:
Not to mention the conflict between the two nuclear powers India and
Pakistan. Are we supposed to just twiddle our thumbs until one of
them thinks that their God tells them to press the button?
no. vote Bush back in.
I'm here to cancel your vote, Jethro.
--
Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
Q: Why did the chicken cross the Moebius strip?
A: To get to the other...er, um...
[seen on a math jokes site]
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| User: "Charles R Ward" |
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| Title: Re: atheism defensiveness |
25 Apr 2004 10:04:33 PM |
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 00:37:43 UTC, Doc Smartass
<gekiskivviesdo@astroboyskivviesmail.com> wrote:
Jd <Igo.B4u@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
news:ljrg805g03kpqqk13u8tshr3n5jrkt7p8q@4ax.com:
Editor of EvilBible.com wrote:
Not to mention the conflict between the two nuclear powers India and
Pakistan. Are we supposed to just twiddle our thumbs until one of
them thinks that their God tells them to press the button?
no. vote Bush back in.
I'm here to cancel your vote, Jethro.
I may have missinterpreted what he said. I thought
he meant voting for Bush would reduce the time for
thumb twiddling between now and doomsday.
Charles R Ward
--
"I do live among my fellow atheists. I also happen to live
among Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Pagans, Satanists
and followers of various other religions -- all of which
have a perfect right to live in the United States without
interference because of their religion or lack thereof no
matter how much it irks you." Liz
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: atheism defensiveness |
22 Apr 2004 02:41:48 PM |
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"K C" <writingken@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e88a6c8b.0404220731.2b986f50@posting.google.com...
I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting. Amazing how so many
people that claim to be atheist (don't believe in God) or agnostic
(don't care if there is a God) get so riled up when you question
atheism. I mean, if religion is just a myth and these are just
logical people dismissing religion, why should they care if I question
them. If they truely think atheism is fact, what does it matter if I
don't accept it. Further proof for my point, I guess.
You flatter yourself. But then, that's nothing new. If there's anything you
Christers are good at, it's tooting your own horn. Sorry to burst your
bubble, but the real reason so many of us get riled when you Christians
start spouting off in our faces is simply that we're sick and tired of
hearing the same old crap for the umpteenth time.
<website spam snipped>
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| User: "Phÿltêr" |
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| Title: Re: atheism defensiveness |
23 Apr 2004 06:00:43 AM |
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(K C) astounded us with:
news:e88a6c8b.0404220731.2b986f50@posting.google.com:
I think I hit a nerve.
Yep, fundy fucksticks tend to do that. Like the JW's that knocked on my door
on a Sunday, my day of rest, MY PROPERTY, and they had no qualms about
invading it to spout their *****, yeah, that kind of nerve.
Do what I told them, "*****."
--
Phÿltêr
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://afjc.clickhalah.com/forum/index.php
Change "freeway" to "hotmail" to respond
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| User: "Phÿltêr" |
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24 Apr 2004 06:21:07 AM |
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(K C) astounded us with:
news:e88a6c8b.0404220731.2b986f50@posting.google.com:
I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting. Amazing how so many
people that claim to be atheist (don't believe in God) or agnostic
(don't care if there is a God)
Did you feel the need to explain the difference between atheists and
agnostics because you're:
A: Used to preaching to drooling morons that sit in thrall, listening to your
dreck and who wouldn't know ***** from a hole in the ground?
B: A typical arrogant christian
C: Both
--
Phÿltêr
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://afjc.clickhalah.com/forum/index.php
Change "freeway" to "hotmail" to respond
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: atheism defensiveness |
22 Apr 2004 12:48:48 PM |
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(K C) wrote in
news:e88a6c8b.0404220731.2b986f50@posting.google.com:
I think I hit a nerve.
Nope. You're a toy, Scooter, and we're bored.
Come, amuse us further with your quaint inanities.
--
Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
Q: Why did the chicken cross the Moebius strip?
A: To get to the other...er, um...
[seen on a math jokes site]
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| User: "Emma Goldwoman" |
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| Title: Re: atheism defensiveness |
22 Apr 2004 07:43:13 PM |
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(K C) wrote in message news:<e88a6c8b.0404220731.2b986f50@posting.google.com>...
I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting. Amazing how so many
people that claim to be atheist (don't believe in God)
Without a belief in any gods (you are without belief in Zeus and
Zarathustra, right?)
or agnostic (don't care if there is a God)
a + gnosis = without knowledge (of)
get so riled up when you question atheism.
Riled up? Who is riled up? Can you tell us what you mean by riled
up?
I mean, if religion is just a myth
Sorry, but there are many, many, many religious myths.
and these are just logical people dismissing religion,
why should they care if I question them.
Who has suggested you not question?
If you have questions, ask away.
If they truely [sic] think atheism is fact,
Who has suggested "atheism is fact" ?
what does it matter if I don't accept it.
No one has suggested that you are required to become an atheist,
though you certainly are atheistic toward many gods. Aren't you?
Further proof for my point, I guess.
http://beingone.20m.com/providence.html
Hardly. I see no proof there of anything, let alone proof for any
point you have made (tried to make).
~~~~~
"I truly am not that concerned about him." --George W. Bush, speaking
about Osama Bin Laden, as quoted by Mark Sandalow, "Bush Says Bin
Laden No Threat," San Francisco Chronicle, March 14, 2002, p. A1
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| User: "Alan Hobson" |
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| Title: Re: atheism defensiveness |
23 Apr 2004 08:29:15 AM |
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(K C) wrote in message news:<e88a6c8b.0404220731.2b986f50@posting.google.com>...
I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting. Amazing how so many
people that claim to be atheist (don't believe in God) or agnostic
(don't care if there is a God) get so riled up when you question
atheism. I mean, if religion is just a myth and these are just
logical people dismissing religion, why should they care if I question
them. If they truely think atheism is fact, what does it matter if I
don't accept it. Further proof for my point, I guess.
http://beingone.20m.com/providence.html
If someone was adamantly questioning you about why you don't believe
in the Easter Bunny, don't you think you would get a bit irked?
-Alan
aa#1608 BAAWA
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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23 Apr 2004 11:40:20 AM |
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In article <d1d6cbe3.0404230529.60ec6b6b@posting.google.com> (Alan Hobson) writes:
<writingken@yahoo.com (K C) wrote in message news:<e88a6c8b.0404220731.2b986f50@posting.google.com>...
<> I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting. Amazing how so many
<> people that claim to be atheist (don't believe in God) or agnostic
<> (don't care if there is a God) get so riled up when you question
<> atheism. I mean, if religion is just a myth and these are just
<> logical people dismissing religion, why should they care if I question
<> them. If they truely think atheism is fact, what does it matter if I
<> don't accept it. Further proof for my point, I guess.
<>
<> http://beingone.20m.com/providence.html
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<If someone was adamantly questioning you about why you don't believe
<in the Easter Bunny, don't you think you would get a bit irked?
Me, I'd suggest they approach him repeatedly to try and convince him
that the Angel Moroni has updated the Bible. Or that Jesus
failed in his mission, but that Sun Myung Moon is here
to pick up where He dropped off. Or that he still has time
to join the 144,000 who will make it to heaven.
I imagine that any of these would irk him a LOT more than ol'
flippity-hoppity, and give him some idea of why atheists (not
to mention some Christians and other deists as well) react
to him as they do.
-- cary
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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23 Apr 2004 04:18:35 PM |
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On 23 Apr 2004 06:29:15 -0700, (Alan Hobson)
wrote:
writingken@yahoo.com (K C) wrote in message news:<e88a6c8b.0404220731.2b986f50@posting.google.com>...
I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting. Amazing how so many
people that claim to be atheist (don't believe in God) or agnostic
(don't care if there is a God) get so riled up when you question
atheism. I mean, if religion is just a myth and these are just
logical people dismissing religion, why should they care if I question
them. If they truely think atheism is fact, what does it matter if I
don't accept it. Further proof for my point, I guess.
http://beingone.20m.com/providence.html
If someone was adamantly questioning you about why you don't believe
in the Easter Bunny, don't you think you would get a bit irked?
[fundy mode] "But that's not the same"
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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22 Apr 2004 01:14:47 PM |
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(K C) wrote in news:e88a6c8b.0404220731.2b986f50
@posting.google.com:
I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting. Amazing how so many
people that claim to be atheist (don't believe in God) or agnostic
(don't care if there is a God) get so riled up when you question
atheism. I mean, if religion is just a myth and these are just
logical people dismissing religion, why should they care if I question
them. If they truely think atheism is fact, what does it matter if I
don't accept it. Further proof for my point, I guess.
http://beingone.20m.com/providence.html
Gee, I guess *we* hit a nerve.
If God is so real, why should *you* care whether we dismiss him? What does
it matter if we don't accept your *****, it's not you that your
superstitious pile of steaming ***** says is going to hell, is it?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "" |
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22 Apr 2004 01:46:32 PM |
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(K C) wrote:
:|I think I hit a nerve. Hmmm. Interesting.
What is really interesting is how little your word means to you which says
a great deal about you as a person and as a phony internet minister
Your words:
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From: K C ()
Subject: I'm ending church-state posts on these groups
Newsgroups: alt.education, misc.education
Date: 2004-04-08 12:20:46 PST
I just realized how much I've been hurting my own cause. As I reflect
over the past week's posts, I see that reponses to my posts make up
about a third of the posts to the group. In other words...and this is
the major point...if I had not spoken up, the posts in favor or
church-state would have been much lower.
Now, I realize that Buckeye will continue to post his stuff. He is a
lobbyist for his cause, and he has been such from long before my
posts. However, most of the rest of the responders...Cary, Gray,
Joni, etc...have only been pushing the seperationist position in
response to either me or Dana. Thus, if we had not been posting our
position, it is highly likely they would be silent as well. I just
got that.
Realizing this, I send out a request to Dana, JD, and anyone else on
this side to stop posting in regards to this issue. Currently, we are
winning the popular vote in the country with a huge percentage in
support of the Pledge, the Ten Commandments, and such. There is no
need for us to push our position on this group. If we end our posts,
it is highly likely, in my view, that the other side, with the
exception of Buckeye, will end their posts as well. Let's call a
truce.
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