On 20 Mar 2005, Mark K. Bilbo dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:

In our last episode <Xns961FA49979390vicman@216.196.97.136>, Vic
Sagerquist pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:

On 20 Mar 2005, Jason Gastrich dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:

Dan Barker wrote "Losing Faith in Faith," and he devoted a lot of his
book to Christianity. Doug Krueger wrote "What is Atheism? A Short
Introduction," and he devotes over half its pages to slamming the
Bible.

No *****, Gassy. Why do you think he did that? It's what we're up
against in this lost-cause country.

I love how Gasbag has discovered that an author who was raised and lives
in a country where the dominant religion is Christianity for some
strange reason has written about Christianity...

I'm wondering what he thinks the subject of a book entitled "Losing Faith
in Faith" should be. Do-it-yourself auto mechanics?

On 20 Mar 2005, Mark K. Bilbo dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:

In our last episode <Xns961FA49979390vicman@216.196.97.136>, Vic
Sagerquist pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:

On 20 Mar 2005, Jason Gastrich dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:

Dan Barker wrote "Losing Faith in Faith," and he devoted a lot of
his book to Christianity. Doug Krueger wrote "What is Atheism? A
Short Introduction," and he devotes over half its pages to slamming
the Bible.

No *****, Gassy. Why do you think he did that? It's what we're up
against in this lost-cause country.

I love how Gasbag has discovered that an author who was raised and
lives in a country where the dominant religion is Christianity for
some strange reason has written about Christianity...

I'm wondering what he thinks the subject of a book entitled "Losing Faith
in Faith" should be. Do-it-yourself auto mechanics?

Thijs Pieters wrote:

Atheism please!



Isn't is a bit of a contradiction that the main topic on most Atheist
news groups is religion? In fact I have never seen so many religious
discussions as on our atheist newsgroups. If we want to prove to the
world that we can do without religion we are not doing a very good
job here. Christ this, Islam that, where has the Atheism gone?

No kidding.'

Dan Barker wrote "Losing Faith in Faith," and he devoted a lot of his book
to Christianity. Doug Krueger wrote "What is Atheism? A Short
Introduction," and he devotes over half its pages to slamming the Bible.

Yes, you found something very true and right. Frankly, it's like
homosexuality. Many gays and lesbians are obsessed with the Bible and
whether their behavior should be considered morally right or not and many
even try and use the Bible to justify their lifestyle.

In a similar way, atheists feel like their unbelief is only justified if
they can cast enough doubt or hatred on the Bible.

Atheism please!



Isn't is a bit of a contradiction that the main topic on most Atheist news
groups is religion? In fact I have never seen so many religious discussions
as on our atheist newsgroups. If we want to prove to the world that we can
do without religion we are not doing a very good job here. Christ this,
Islam that, where has the Atheism gone?



I have posted about this lack of Atheism in our atheist newsgroups before. I
got a clear answer. The only thing we have in common is that we don't
believe in God, someone wrote. There aren't groups for people who don't like
to go to the opera. Nor are their groups of people who don't own a classic
car. The absence of any other commonality naturally steers the subject
towards the one thing we have in common, lack of religion.



I can only partially agree with that. Granted, we don't wear the same cloths
or share a favourite meal, yet our lack of religion creates problems and
challenges that we al must confront. This would, in my opinion, give grounds
for a more broader range of topics than just debating religion with
religious people.



For example.

How's a wedding ceremony like without a priest?

What do we tell our children if they ask us about God?

Does the absence of religion leave a gap, and if so, with what do you fill
it?

Consider the world philosophies, in a Atheist perspective.

How to deal with religious symbolism in public spaces (crosses, or text on
coins)?

What's our motivation to be good people, when a reward in heaven does not
await us?

In some countries there is discrimination of Atheist, can we do something to
help them?

Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.



Please don't tell me I'm the only one who would like to hear other peoples
thoughts on these subjects?



I'm not saying that the debating, discussing and ranting about religion
should end. No way! I love that stuff, yet can't we find other topics to
talk about also? Get a bit of a mix? I mean we never will convince the
religious folk of our Atheist life stance (nor will they convince us). So
let us talk about other topics every once in a wile, please..



Kind regards,



Thijs Pieters

The Netherlands

Atheism please!



Isn't is a bit of a contradiction that the main topic on most Atheist news
groups is religion? In fact I have never seen so many religious discussions
as on our atheist newsgroups. If we want to prove to the world that we can
do without religion we are not doing a very good job here. Christ this,
Islam that, where has the Atheism gone?

I have posted about this lack of Atheism in our atheist newsgroups before. I
got a clear answer. The only thing we have in common is that we don't
believe in God, someone wrote. There aren't groups for people who don't like
to go to the opera. Nor are their groups of people who don't own a classic
car. The absence of any other commonality naturally steers the subject
towards the one thing we have in common, lack of religion.

I can only partially agree with that. Granted, we don't wear the same cloths
or share a favourite meal, yet our lack of religion creates problems and
challenges that we al must confront. This would, in my opinion, give grounds
for a more broader range of topics than just debating religion with
religious people.

For example.

How's a wedding ceremony like without a priest?

What do we tell our children if they ask us about God?

Does the absence of religion leave a gap, and if so, with what do you fill
it?

Consider the world philosophies, in a Atheist perspective.

How to deal with religious symbolism in public spaces (crosses, or text on
coins)?

What's our motivation to be good people, when a reward in heaven does not
await us?

In some countries there is discrimination of Atheist, can we do something to
help them?

Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.



Please don't tell me I'm the only one who would like to hear other peoples
thoughts on these subjects?

I'm not saying that the debating, discussing and ranting about religion
should end. No way! I love that stuff, yet can't we find other topics to
talk about also? Get a bit of a mix? I mean we never will convince the
religious folk of our Atheist life stance (nor will they convince us). So
let us talk about other topics every once in a wile, please..



Kind regards,



Thijs Pieters

The Netherlands

Atheism please!