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"Khubla" |
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09 Jan 2006 06:55:21 PM |
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Atheist & Their Father rebuttal |
I don't believe anyone who says he/she was an atheist and then converted to
religion. Many theist claim this but it's not true unless they experienced
a traumatic head injury perhaps. Second I'm 62 and have been an atheist all
my life, born an atheist like everyone and have never seen the tiniest
reason to be superstitious and believe in the supernatural. I also have a
degree in Bio-Chemistry which allows me to understand evolution and not have
to resort to the "God did it" answer on things I don't understand. I have
always felt the "supernatural" should be termed the "Subnaturial" for it's
debase beliefs and low intellectual state.
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Khubla
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist & Their Father rebuttal |
09 Jan 2006 07:56:38 PM |
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"Khubla" <khubla@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:oN6dneWmRasJmF7enZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@adelphia.com...
I don't believe anyone who says he/she was an atheist and then converted
to
religion.
I'd have to take exception with that. Everyone is born atheist. Then at some
point, some people are gullible enough to buy into fairy tales and cynical
promises.
Many theist claim this but it's not true unless they experienced
a traumatic head injury perhaps.
I will hazard that they didn't pop out of the womb with a hearty amen. ;-)
Second I'm 62 and have been an atheist all
my life, born an atheist like everyone and have never seen the tiniest
reason to be superstitious and believe in the supernatural.
That's pretty much my story too.
I also have a
degree in Bio-Chemistry which allows me to understand evolution and not
have
to resort to the "God did it" answer on things I don't understand. I have
always felt the "supernatural" should be termed the "Subnaturial" for it's
debase beliefs and low intellectual state.
You'll get no argument from me on that.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist & Their Father rebuttal |
09 Jan 2006 09:24:11 PM |
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Khubla wrote:
I don't believe anyone who says he/she was an atheist and then converted
to
religion. Many theist claim this but it's not true unless they
experienced
a traumatic head injury perhaps.
Indeed. As a rule of thumb (based on my personal experience) it's perfectly
safe to assume that:
Whenever a fundie claims he was once an atheist... he lies for jebus.
Whenever a cretinist/IDiot claims to have received any science education...
he lies for jebus.
Whenever a cretinist/IDiot claims to have a degree (whatever one) in
science... he lies for jebus (oh well, unless it's from a diploma mill).
Et cetera, ad nauseam.
Exceptions are theoretically possible but have yet to be found.
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove,
And gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer,
And fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
Why I am not a christian:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus/nojebus
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| User: "Richo" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist & Their Father rebuttal |
09 Jan 2006 08:37:54 PM |
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Khubla wrote:
I don't believe anyone who says he/she was an atheist and then converted to
religion.
I treat such claims with suspicion (because often it is obviously a
ploy...) but I dont automatically reject them all.
Why? I remember being a teenager.
For me - it was more like I remember everyone *else* being a teenager
(ie just short of being certifiably insane, impulsive, oversexed,
under-inhibited, amoral etc etc) and I was just me - but I digress.
People are very complex things - in particular people are ruled by
their emotions and their hormones to a *much* greater degree than by
their reasoning mind.
One scenario: someone is 16 thinks they are a hard headed atheist -
then they get their heart brocken for the first time - their world
falls apart - they meet a cute girl/guy and find Jesus.
I am sure it happens a lot.
It happens to adults too - but most of this commiting to things with
great passion happens to teenagers (and twenty somethings) and
teenagers are (in general) insane - so anything is possible.
I am also a lifetime atheist - although I desperately wanted to be a
christian when I was a teenager - I just couldn't "switch off" my
doubts/questioning mind.
Mark.
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| User: "Chris H. Fleming" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist & Their Father rebuttal |
10 Jan 2006 03:23:56 AM |
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Khubla wrote:
I don't believe anyone who says he/she was an atheist and then converted to
religion. Many theist claim this but it's not true unless they experienced
a traumatic head injury perhaps. Second I'm 62 and have been an atheist all
my life, born an atheist like everyone and have never seen the tiniest
reason to be superstitious and believe in the supernatural. I also have a
degree in Bio-Chemistry which allows me to understand evolution and not have
to resort to the "God did it" answer on things I don't understand. I have
always felt the "supernatural" should be termed the "Subnaturial" for it's
debase beliefs and low intellectual state.
--
Khubla
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/%7Eslocks/conversion_asymmetry.html
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist & Their Father rebuttal |
10 Jan 2006 02:26:35 AM |
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On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:55:21 -0500, "Khubla" <khubla@adelphia.net>
wrote:
- Refer: <oN6dneWmRasJmF7enZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@adelphia.com>
I don't believe anyone who says he/she was an atheist and then converted to
religion. Many theist claim this but it's not true unless they experienced
a traumatic head injury perhaps. Second I'm 62 and have been an atheist all
my life, born an atheist like everyone and have never seen the tiniest
reason to be superstitious and believe in the supernatural. I also have a
degree in Bio-Chemistry which allows me to understand evolution and not have
to resort to the "God did it" answer on things I don't understand.
I like this bit:
I have
always felt the "supernatural" should be termed the "Subnaturial" for it's
debase beliefs and low intellectual state.
I can predict James Randi nodding in agreement, too.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist & Their Father rebuttal |
10 Jan 2006 09:28:42 PM |
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On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:55:21 -0500, "Khubla" <khubla@adelphia.net> wrote
in alt.atheism
I don't believe anyone who says he/she was an atheist and then converted to
religion.
It's trivially true since all are born with a lack of superstition.
Sadly, so many of those who are supposed to nurture and protect their
young instead betray them dreadfully.
Many theist claim this but it's not true unless they experienced
a traumatic head injury perhaps. Second I'm 62 and have been an atheist all
my life, born an atheist like everyone and have never seen the tiniest
reason to be superstitious and believe in the supernatural. I also have a
degree in Bio-Chemistry which allows me to understand evolution and not have
to resort to the "God did it" answer on things I don't understand. I have
always felt the "supernatural" should be termed the "Subnaturial" for it's
debase beliefs and low intellectual state.
Superstition is the province of cowards.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist & Their Father rebuttal |
11 Jan 2006 01:43:06 AM |
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:28:42 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <knu8s15gp6h98rv0f80c36friribemlg3s@4ax.com>
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:55:21 -0500, "Khubla" <khubla@adelphia.net> wrote
in alt.atheism
I don't believe anyone who says he/she was an atheist and then converted to
religion.
It's trivially true since all are born with a lack of superstition.
Sadly, so many of those who are supposed to nurture and protect their
young instead betray them dreadfully.
Many theist claim this but it's not true unless they experienced
a traumatic head injury perhaps. Second I'm 62 and have been an atheist all
my life, born an atheist like everyone and have never seen the tiniest
reason to be superstitious and believe in the supernatural. I also have a
degree in Bio-Chemistry which allows me to understand evolution and not have
to resort to the "God did it" answer on things I don't understand. I have
always felt the "supernatural" should be termed the "Subnaturial" for it's
debase beliefs and low intellectual state.
Superstition is the province of cowards.
And the mentally feeble.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist & Their Father rebuttal |
11 Jan 2006 06:49:16 PM |
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 18:13:06 +1030, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in alt.atheism
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 19:28:42 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <knu8s15gp6h98rv0f80c36friribemlg3s@4ax.com>
On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 19:55:21 -0500, "Khubla" <khubla@adelphia.net> wrote
in alt.atheism
I don't believe anyone who says he/she was an atheist and then converted to
religion.
It's trivially true since all are born with a lack of superstition.
Sadly, so many of those who are supposed to nurture and protect their
young instead betray them dreadfully.
Many theist claim this but it's not true unless they experienced
a traumatic head injury perhaps. Second I'm 62 and have been an atheist all
my life, born an atheist like everyone and have never seen the tiniest
reason to be superstitious and believe in the supernatural. I also have a
degree in Bio-Chemistry which allows me to understand evolution and not have
to resort to the "God did it" answer on things I don't understand. I have
always felt the "supernatural" should be termed the "Subnaturial" for it's
debase beliefs and low intellectual state.
Superstition is the province of cowards.
And the mentally feeble.
Point.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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