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Religions > Atheism |
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"johac" |
| Date: |
04 Nov 2006 02:41:31 AM |
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Atheist doesn't have to display car sticker with cross. |
Atheist fights City Hall and wins.
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Atheist doesn't have to display Burbank car sticker
(http://www.dailysouthtown.com/news/121162,1NWS8-02.article)
November 2, 2006
By Stephanie Gehring Staff writer
A Burbank college student and atheist has won the right to remove the
city's vehicle sticker from her car pending a judge's approval of an
out-of-court agreement.
Nichole Schultz, who was raised Catholic, sued Burbank in October
because the city's vehicle sticker includes a cross.
The sticker depicts a soldier with his rifle kneeling at a cross.
The agreement ends a six-month dispute between Schultz and the city.
Atheist advocate Robert Sherman, who assisted Schultz, said the college
student wanted the city to provide her with some kind of alternative.
She should be allowed to remove the cross from the sticker, use a
different sticker or use no sticker at all, he suggested.
"The obligation is to pay the city vehicle tax -- not to display
Christian imagery from your car," Sherman said.
Under the agreement, Schultz can drive her car without a vehicle sticker
until next year when the new stickers are printed. If she receives a
ticket for driving without a sticker, the city will not make Schultz pay
a fine.
Both Burbank Mayor Harry Klein and attorney Joe Cainkar were out of town
and unavailable for comment.
In the spring, Klein called Schultz's concerns "ludicrous." He said the
cross stood for the graves of fallen soldiers, not Christianity.
"If the mayor sincerely believed it was a generic grave marker, the
courts have ruled for legal purposes that the ... cross is the
unmistakable symbol of Christianity," Sherman said.
Burbank Ald. Dan Foy said he knew the city was trying to work out an
agreement with Schultz.
He said the sticker was not intended to offend anyone.
"To her it's offensive. We don't see it that way," Foy said. "To be
honest, this is the first time we've ever had a complaint."
Schultz did not return a phone call seeking comment, but Sherman said he
presented the agreement to her Monday.
U.S. District Judge Mark Filip is expected to review the agreement Nov.
16.
Sherman said he considers Burbank's vehicle sticker nothing more than an
effort to force Christianity on its residents.
"The secular excuse involved the community claiming that they were
merely trying to honor veterans," Sherman said. "The way they chose to
honor veterans was to put on their vehicle sticker a war memorial and a
Christian cross as the focus of the scene."
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http://www.dailysouthtown.com/news/121162,1NWS8-02.article
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist doesn't have to display car sticker with cross. |
21 Dec 2006 03:58:11 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 07:56:16 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:08:19 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <r7mdo2pc4aq6ve857t1ovr1da8e1th0lq7@4ax.com>
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:55:47 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:06:12 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <8k3sn29h04kt2gguf9es5ebavvbo87fj4p@4ax.com>
On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:04:03 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
The tide is turning.
Harris and Dawkins have enabled atheists to sit at the front of the
bus.
I wanna drive the bus. *slightly sinister grin*
Do you look like Sandra Bullock??
*slightly creepy leer*
Only of you reallly realllly squint your eyes 8-)
<Squint>
<Harder squint>
...Well, I think I can see a Bullock.
Never mind the Bullocks!
Is that a gear stick?
It's me sex pistol. :p
Derringer?
Not after Nancy Spungen's had a go.
Micro Derringer.
Microsoft.
Muy condolances.
My Sharona!
Get the Knack!
I can reach both of them from here.
'KnAck' not knockers.
Yeah, I can reach my knackers from here.
They haven't sagged *that* much, mate!
So, you're on the ball.....
I was married once.
They had to sew them back on.
I'm surprised they were recovered.
Yes; in a nice chintz fabric.
Fabragee`.....
Ball gown
So you get to roll everywhere.
Especially the hay.
Hey hey!
It's Saturday!
See Boo play....
Monsters Inc?
That would be Mikey.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist doesn't have to display car sticker with cross. |
21 Dec 2006 11:28:32 PM |
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"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:3r0mo2tkl58hnp2rn4mcef8hsf89529d1q@4ax.com...
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 07:56:16 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:08:19 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <r7mdo2pc4aq6ve857t1ovr1da8e1th0lq7@4ax.com>
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:55:47 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:06:12 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <8k3sn29h04kt2gguf9es5ebavvbo87fj4p@4ax.com>
On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:04:03 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
The tide is turning.
Harris and Dawkins have enabled atheists to
sit at the front of the
bus.
I wanna drive the bus. *slightly sinister grin*
Do you look like Sandra Bullock??
*slightly creepy leer*
Only of you reallly realllly squint your eyes 8-)
<Squint>
<Harder squint>
...Well, I think I can see a Bullock.
Never mind the Bullocks!
Is that a gear stick?
It's me sex pistol. :p
Derringer?
Not after Nancy Spungen's had a go.
Micro Derringer.
Microsoft.
Muy condolances.
My Sharona!
Get the Knack!
I can reach both of them from here.
'KnAck' not knockers.
Yeah, I can reach my knackers from here.
They haven't sagged *that* much, mate!
So, you're on the ball.....
I was married once.
They had to sew them back on.
I'm surprised they were recovered.
Yes; in a nice chintz fabric.
Fabragee`.....
Ball gown
So you get to roll everywhere.
Especially the hay.
Hey hey!
It's Saturday!
See Boo play....
Monsters Inc?
That would be Mikey.
And, Mikey will eat anything.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist doesn't have to display car sticker with cross. |
24 Dec 2006 12:10:30 PM |
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On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 00:28:32 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in alt.atheism
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:3r0mo2tkl58hnp2rn4mcef8hsf89529d1q@4ax.com...
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 07:56:16 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:08:19 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <r7mdo2pc4aq6ve857t1ovr1da8e1th0lq7@4ax.com>
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:55:47 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:06:12 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <8k3sn29h04kt2gguf9es5ebavvbo87fj4p@4ax.com>
On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:04:03 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
The tide is turning.
Harris and Dawkins have enabled atheists to
sit at the front of the
bus.
I wanna drive the bus. *slightly sinister grin*
Do you look like Sandra Bullock??
*slightly creepy leer*
Only of you reallly realllly squint your eyes 8-)
<Squint>
<Harder squint>
...Well, I think I can see a Bullock.
Never mind the Bullocks!
Is that a gear stick?
It's me sex pistol. :p
Derringer?
Not after Nancy Spungen's had a go.
Micro Derringer.
Microsoft.
Muy condolances.
My Sharona!
Get the Knack!
I can reach both of them from here.
'KnAck' not knockers.
Yeah, I can reach my knackers from here.
They haven't sagged *that* much, mate!
So, you're on the ball.....
I was married once.
They had to sew them back on.
I'm surprised they were recovered.
Yes; in a nice chintz fabric.
Fabragee`.....
Ball gown
So you get to roll everywhere.
Especially the hay.
Hey hey!
It's Saturday!
See Boo play....
Monsters Inc?
That would be Mikey.
And, Mikey will eat anything.
Even LifeŽ. He likes it. Hey, Mikey!
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist doesn't have to display car sticker with cross. |
21 Dec 2006 11:59:47 PM |
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On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 00:28:32 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
- Refer: <Y8adnasarsRv8RbYnZ2dnUVZ_rOqnZ2d@comcast.com>
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:3r0mo2tkl58hnp2rn4mcef8hsf89529d1q@4ax.com...
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 07:56:16 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:08:19 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <r7mdo2pc4aq6ve857t1ovr1da8e1th0lq7@4ax.com>
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:55:47 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:06:12 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <8k3sn29h04kt2gguf9es5ebavvbo87fj4p@4ax.com>
On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:04:03 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
The tide is turning.
Harris and Dawkins have enabled atheists to
sit at the front of the
bus.
I wanna drive the bus. *slightly sinister grin*
Do you look like Sandra Bullock??
*slightly creepy leer*
Only of you reallly realllly squint your eyes 8-)
<Squint>
<Harder squint>
...Well, I think I can see a Bullock.
Never mind the Bullocks!
Is that a gear stick?
It's me sex pistol. :p
Derringer?
Not after Nancy Spungen's had a go.
Micro Derringer.
Microsoft.
Muy condolances.
My Sharona!
Get the Knack!
I can reach both of them from here.
'KnAck' not knockers.
Yeah, I can reach my knackers from here.
They haven't sagged *that* much, mate!
So, you're on the ball.....
I was married once.
They had to sew them back on.
I'm surprised they were recovered.
Yes; in a nice chintz fabric.
Fabragee`.....
Ball gown
So you get to roll everywhere.
Especially the hay.
Hey hey!
It's Saturday!
See Boo play....
Monsters Inc?
That would be Mikey.
And, Mikey will eat anything.
So will the cinema character...
--
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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21 Dec 2006 11:59:06 PM |
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:58:11 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <3r0mo2tkl58hnp2rn4mcef8hsf89529d1q@4ax.com>
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 07:56:16 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:08:19 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <r7mdo2pc4aq6ve857t1ovr1da8e1th0lq7@4ax.com>
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:55:47 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:06:12 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <8k3sn29h04kt2gguf9es5ebavvbo87fj4p@4ax.com>
On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:04:03 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
The tide is turning.
Harris and Dawkins have enabled atheists to sit at the front of the
bus.
I wanna drive the bus. *slightly sinister grin*
Do you look like Sandra Bullock??
*slightly creepy leer*
Only of you reallly realllly squint your eyes 8-)
<Squint>
<Harder squint>
...Well, I think I can see a Bullock.
Never mind the Bullocks!
Is that a gear stick?
It's me sex pistol. :p
Derringer?
Not after Nancy Spungen's had a go.
Micro Derringer.
Microsoft.
Muy condolances.
My Sharona!
Get the Knack!
I can reach both of them from here.
'KnAck' not knockers.
Yeah, I can reach my knackers from here.
They haven't sagged *that* much, mate!
So, you're on the ball.....
I was married once.
They had to sew them back on.
I'm surprised they were recovered.
Yes; in a nice chintz fabric.
Fabragee`.....
Ball gown
So you get to roll everywhere.
Especially the hay.
Hey hey!
It's Saturday!
See Boo play....
Monsters Inc?
That would be Mikey.
MIKE WAZOWSKI!!!
Ssssh!...
MIKE WAZOWSKI!!!!!!
--
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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11 Nov 2006 09:18:35 PM |
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On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:16:52 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns9878C429263BEaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:g52uk2hhqt3m4cg3jdjtofl9gh4idtspaf@4ax.com:
On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 06:21:14 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns9873398EFD3Caskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:4cqqk218q6vk2lq1asenm5vnqbkft292fp@4ax.com:
On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:23:00 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns9871BB04540A9askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:elipk2d2lsq0h08ree5egsgk71nc61ttvk@4ax.com:
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:41:31 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-B38447.00413104112006@news.giganews.com>
Atheist fights City Hall and wins.
:
"The secular excuse involved the community claiming that they were
merely trying to honor veterans," Sherman said. "The way they chose
to honor veterans was to put on their vehicle sticker a war
memorial
and a Christian cross as the focus of the scene."
The tide is turning.
Harris and Dawkins have enabled atheists to sit at the front of the
bus.
I wanna drive the bus. *slightly sinister grin*
Do you look like Sandra Bullock??
*slightly creepy leer*
Only of you reallly realllly squint your eyes 8-)
<Squint>
<Harder squint>
...Well, I think I can see a Bullock.
Never mind the Bullocks!
Punk off.
Is that a gear stick?
It's me sex pistol. :p
That's Rotten!
--
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist doesn't have to display car sticker with cross. |
20 Nov 2006 09:06:49 PM |
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:ej4dl2ppjvb5od5qva8tucvqlps1r6otg8@4ax.com:
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:16:52 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns9878C429263BEaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:g52uk2hhqt3m4cg3jdjtofl9gh4idtspaf@4ax.com:
On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 06:21:14 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns9873398EFD3Caskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:4cqqk218q6vk2lq1asenm5vnqbkft292fp@4ax.com:
On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:23:00 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns9871BB04540A9askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:elipk2d2lsq0h08ree5egsgk71nc61ttvk@4ax.com:
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:41:31 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-B38447.00413104112006@news.giganews.com>
Atheist fights City Hall and wins.
:
"The secular excuse involved the community claiming that they
were
merely trying to honor veterans," Sherman said. "The way they
chose
to honor veterans was to put on their vehicle sticker a war
memorial
and a Christian cross as the focus of the scene."
The tide is turning.
Harris and Dawkins have enabled atheists to sit at the front of
the
bus.
I wanna drive the bus. *slightly sinister grin*
Do you look like Sandra Bullock??
*slightly creepy leer*
Only of you reallly realllly squint your eyes 8-)
<Squint>
<Harder squint>
...Well, I think I can see a Bullock.
Never mind the Bullocks!
Punk off.
Is that a gear stick?
It's me sex pistol. :p
That's Rotten!
yer bein' Vicious!
--
Doc Smartass
"***** repeated to the limit of infinity asymptotically approaches
the odour of roses." -- Relf's Law
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist doesn't have to display car sticker with cross. |
21 Nov 2006 01:24:46 AM |
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On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 03:06:49 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns9881D6CE8807askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:ej4dl2ppjvb5od5qva8tucvqlps1r6otg8@4ax.com:
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:16:52 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns9878C429263BEaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:g52uk2hhqt3m4cg3jdjtofl9gh4idtspaf@4ax.com:
On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 06:21:14 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns9873398EFD3Caskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:4cqqk218q6vk2lq1asenm5vnqbkft292fp@4ax.com:
On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:23:00 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns9871BB04540A9askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:elipk2d2lsq0h08ree5egsgk71nc61ttvk@4ax.com:
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:41:31 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-B38447.00413104112006@news.giganews.com>
Atheist fights City Hall and wins.
:
"The secular excuse involved the community claiming that they
were
merely trying to honor veterans," Sherman said. "The way they
chose
to honor veterans was to put on their vehicle sticker a war
memorial
and a Christian cross as the focus of the scene."
The tide is turning.
Harris and Dawkins have enabled atheists to sit at the front of
the
bus.
I wanna drive the bus. *slightly sinister grin*
Do you look like Sandra Bullock??
*slightly creepy leer*
Only of you reallly realllly squint your eyes 8-)
<Squint>
<Harder squint>
...Well, I think I can see a Bullock.
Never mind the Bullocks!
Punk off.
Is that a gear stick?
It's me sex pistol. :p
That's Rotten!
yer bein' Vicious!
Sid down and take the wait off your feat.
--
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist doesn't have to display car sticker with cross. |
22 Nov 2006 07:58:32 PM |
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:fca5m21kgng2j488e4oktsbnmdc7hiom9d@4ax.com:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 03:06:49 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns9881D6CE8807askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:ej4dl2ppjvb5od5qva8tucvqlps1r6otg8@4ax.com:
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:16:52 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns9878C429263BEaskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:g52uk2hhqt3m4cg3jdjtofl9gh4idtspaf@4ax.com:
On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 06:21:14 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns9873398EFD3Caskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:4cqqk218q6vk2lq1asenm5vnqbkft292fp@4ax.com:
On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:23:00 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns9871BB04540A9askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:elipk2d2lsq0h08ree5egsgk71nc61ttvk@4ax.com:
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:41:31 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-B38447.00413104112006@news.giganews.com>
Atheist fights City Hall and wins.
:
"The secular excuse involved the community claiming that they
were
merely trying to honor veterans," Sherman said. "The way they
chose
to honor veterans was to put on their vehicle sticker a war
memorial
and a Christian cross as the focus of the scene."
The tide is turning.
Harris and Dawkins have enabled atheists to sit at the front of
the
bus.
I wanna drive the bus. *slightly sinister grin*
Do you look like Sandra Bullock??
*slightly creepy leer*
Only of you reallly realllly squint your eyes 8-)
<Squint>
<Harder squint>
...Well, I think I can see a Bullock.
Never mind the Bullocks!
Punk off.
Is that a gear stick?
It's me sex pistol. :p
That's Rotten!
yer bein' Vicious!
Sid down and take the wait off your feat.
I need to; 10,000 maniacs out there. But careful with the doobie
brother--the police are after the fire.
--
Doc Smartass
"***** repeated to the limit of infinity asymptotically approaches
the odour of roses." -- Relf's Law
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist doesn't have to display car sticker with cross. |
22 Nov 2006 10:26:28 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 01:58:32 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns9883CB3D4E9E3askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:fca5m21kgng2j488e4oktsbnmdc7hiom9d@4ax.com:
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 03:06:49 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns9881D6CE8807askifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:ej4dl2ppjvb5od5qva8tucvqlps1r6otg8@4ax.com:
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 01:16:52 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:g52uk2hhqt3m4cg3jdjtofl9gh4idtspaf@4ax.com:
On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 06:21:14 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:4cqqk218q6vk2lq1asenm5vnqbkft292fp@4ax.com:
On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 00:23:00 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
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Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in
news:elipk2d2lsq0h08ree5egsgk71nc61ttvk@4ax.com:
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:41:31 -0800, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
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Atheist fights City Hall and wins.
:
"The secular excuse involved the community claiming that they
were
merely trying to honor veterans," Sherman said. "The way they
chose
to honor veterans was to put on their vehicle sticker a war
memorial
and a Christian cross as the focus of the scene."
The tide is turning.
Harris and Dawkins have enabled atheists to sit at the front of
the
bus.
I wanna drive the bus. *slightly sinister grin*
Do you look like Sandra Bullock??
*slightly creepy leer*
Only of you reallly realllly squint your eyes 8-)
<Squint>
<Harder squint>
...Well, I think I can see a Bullock.
Never mind the Bullocks!
Punk off.
Is that a gear stick?
It's me sex pistol. :p
That's Rotten!
yer bein' Vicious!
Sid down and take the wait off your feat.
I need to; 10,000 maniacs out there. But careful with the doobie
brother--the police are after the fire.
The police can wait their turn.
The fire comes first!
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04 Nov 2006 09:15:39 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Gray
(mikegray@newsguy.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:41:31 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
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Atheist fights City Hall and wins.
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Atheist doesn't have to display Burbank car sticker
(http://www.dailysouthtown.com/news/121162,1NWS8-02.article)
November 2, 2006
By Stephanie Gehring Staff writer
A Burbank college student and atheist has won the right to remove the
city's vehicle sticker from her car pending a judge's approval of an
out-of-court agreement.
Nichole Schultz, who was raised Catholic, sued Burbank in October
because the city's vehicle sticker includes a cross.
The sticker depicts a soldier with his rifle kneeling at a cross.
The agreement ends a six-month dispute between Schultz and the city.
Atheist advocate Robert Sherman, who assisted Schultz, said the
college student wanted the city to provide her with some kind of
alternative. She should be allowed to remove the cross from the
sticker, use a different sticker or use no sticker at all, he
suggested.
"The obligation is to pay the city vehicle tax -- not to display
Christian imagery from your car," Sherman said.
Under the agreement, Schultz can drive her car without a vehicle
sticker until next year when the new stickers are printed. If she
receives a ticket for driving without a sticker, the city will not
make Schultz pay a fine.
Both Burbank Mayor Harry Klein and attorney Joe Cainkar were out of
town and unavailable for comment.
In the spring, Klein called Schultz's concerns "ludicrous." He said
the cross stood for the graves of fallen soldiers, not Christianity.
"If the mayor sincerely believed it was a generic grave marker, the
courts have ruled for legal purposes that the ... cross is the
unmistakable symbol of Christianity," Sherman said.
Burbank Ald. Dan Foy said he knew the city was trying to work out an
agreement with Schultz.
He said the sticker was not intended to offend anyone.
"To her it's offensive. We don't see it that way," Foy said. "To be
honest, this is the first time we've ever had a complaint."
Schultz did not return a phone call seeking comment, but Sherman said
he presented the agreement to her Monday.
U.S. District Judge Mark Filip is expected to review the agreement
Nov. 16.
Sherman said he considers Burbank's vehicle sticker nothing more than
an effort to force Christianity on its residents.
"The secular excuse involved the community claiming that they were
merely trying to honor veterans," Sherman said. "The way they chose to
honor veterans was to put on their vehicle sticker a war memorial and
a Christian cross as the focus of the scene."
The tide is turning.
Harris and Dawkins have enabled atheists to sit at the front of the
bus.
But now the Christians are driving them backwards.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
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04 Nov 2006 10:34:55 PM |
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On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:15:39 GMT, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Michael Gray
(mikegray@newsguy.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:41:31 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-B38447.00413104112006@news.giganews.com>
Atheist fights City Hall and wins.
---
Atheist doesn't have to display Burbank car sticker
(http://www.dailysouthtown.com/news/121162,1NWS8-02.article)
November 2, 2006
By Stephanie Gehring Staff writer
A Burbank college student and atheist has won the right to remove the
city's vehicle sticker from her car pending a judge's approval of an
out-of-court agreement.
Nichole Schultz, who was raised Catholic, sued Burbank in October
because the city's vehicle sticker includes a cross.
The sticker depicts a soldier with his rifle kneeling at a cross.
The agreement ends a six-month dispute between Schultz and the city.
Atheist advocate Robert Sherman, who assisted Schultz, said the
college student wanted the city to provide her with some kind of
alternative. She should be allowed to remove the cross from the
sticker, use a different sticker or use no sticker at all, he
suggested.
"The obligation is to pay the city vehicle tax -- not to display
Christian imagery from your car," Sherman said.
Under the agreement, Schultz can drive her car without a vehicle
sticker until next year when the new stickers are printed. If she
receives a ticket for driving without a sticker, the city will not
make Schultz pay a fine.
Both Burbank Mayor Harry Klein and attorney Joe Cainkar were out of
town and unavailable for comment.
In the spring, Klein called Schultz's concerns "ludicrous." He said
the cross stood for the graves of fallen soldiers, not Christianity.
"If the mayor sincerely believed it was a generic grave marker, the
courts have ruled for legal purposes that the ... cross is the
unmistakable symbol of Christianity," Sherman said.
Burbank Ald. Dan Foy said he knew the city was trying to work out an
agreement with Schultz.
He said the sticker was not intended to offend anyone.
"To her it's offensive. We don't see it that way," Foy said. "To be
honest, this is the first time we've ever had a complaint."
Schultz did not return a phone call seeking comment, but Sherman said
he presented the agreement to her Monday.
U.S. District Judge Mark Filip is expected to review the agreement
Nov. 16.
Sherman said he considers Burbank's vehicle sticker nothing more than
an effort to force Christianity on its residents.
"The secular excuse involved the community claiming that they were
merely trying to honor veterans," Sherman said. "The way they chose to
honor veterans was to put on their vehicle sticker a war memorial and
a Christian cross as the focus of the scene."
The tide is turning.
Harris and Dawkins have enabled atheists to sit at the front of the
bus.
But now the Christians are driving them backwards.
Makes a change from driving them crazy.
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04 Nov 2006 01:54:25 PM |
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On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:41:31 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
Atheist fights City Hall and wins.
It's not a matter of her having to display a cross, it's a matter of
the City of Burbank establishing a religion and supporting a religion.
They could have had an image of a soldier kneeling at a generic
tombstone.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"A truly unselfish act would be a Christian volunteering to have his soul take your
soul's place in hell, so yours could go to Heaven. Don't hold your breath."
- John Popelish
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04 Nov 2006 02:52:15 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:qsrpk2tk126lkl4j394d3lh5kvol710202@
It's not a matter of her having to display a cross, it's a matter of
the City of Burbank establishing a religion and supporting a religion.
They could have had an image of a soldier kneeling at a generic
tombstone.
Nah. Christians don't like to believe in generics: they think Darwin made it
all up...
M.
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04 Nov 2006 06:20:26 PM |
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On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:52:15 GMT, "Mark D J." <Mark D J.@hoyme.com>
wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:qsrpk2tk126lkl4j394d3lh5kvol710202@
It's not a matter of her having to display a cross, it's a matter of
the City of Burbank establishing a religion and supporting a religion.
They could have had an image of a soldier kneeling at a generic
tombstone.
Nah. Christians don't like to believe in generics: they think Darwin made it
all up...
Must be his Theory of Natural Erection.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been
witnessed. Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor
of Hitler nor of Mussolini."
- Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament's human rights commission
on Bush's genocide in the Iraq war. 11-28-2004
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04 Nov 2006 10:38:13 PM |
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On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 19:20:26 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
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On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:52:15 GMT, "Mark D J." <Mark D J.@hoyme.com>
wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:qsrpk2tk126lkl4j394d3lh5kvol710202@
It's not a matter of her having to display a cross, it's a matter of
the City of Burbank establishing a religion and supporting a religion.
They could have had an image of a soldier kneeling at a generic
tombstone.
Nah. Christians don't like to believe in generics: they think Darwin made it
all up...
Must be his Theory of Natural Erection.
The Ascent of a Man?
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05 Nov 2006 10:13:09 AM |
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On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 15:08:13 +1030 Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> said the following in alt.atheism and I was
immediately reminded of 1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah"
for some reason...
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 19:20:26 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
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On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:52:15 GMT, "Mark D J." <Mark D J.@hoyme.com>
wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:qsrpk2tk126lkl4j394d3lh5kvol710202@
It's not a matter of her having to display a cross, it's a matter of
the City of Burbank establishing a religion and supporting a religion.
They could have had an image of a soldier kneeling at a generic
tombstone.
Nah. Christians don't like to believe in generics: they think Darwin made it
all up...
Must be his Theory of Natural Erection.
The Ascent of a Man?
"Cain rose up against Abel his brother"
Kinky.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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06 Nov 2006 12:55:45 AM |
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Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
news:aa3sk21a5ddv5dbnaj96ii104snbnulh56@4ax.com:
On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 15:08:13 +1030 Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> said the following in alt.atheism and I was
immediately reminded of 1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah"
for some reason...
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 19:20:26 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <nhbqk2dn23hmbanbc0q12av2aee2qmlmhd@4ax.com>
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:52:15 GMT, "Mark D J." <Mark D J.@hoyme.com>
wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:qsrpk2tk126lkl4j394d3lh5kvol710202@
It's not a matter of her having to display a cross, it's a matter
of the City of Burbank establishing a religion and supporting a
religion. They could have had an image of a soldier kneeling at a
generic tombstone.
Nah. Christians don't like to believe in generics: they think Darwin
made it all up...
Must be his Theory of Natural Erection.
The Ascent of a Man?
"Cain rose up against Abel his brother"
Kinky.
Jesus called his a "sword"
--
Doc Smartass
"***** repeated to the limit of infinity asymptotically approaches
the odour of roses." -- Relf's Law
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06 Nov 2006 04:07:48 AM |
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On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 06:55:45 GMT, Doc Smartass
<gekido@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
- Refer: <Xns98739726931Faskifyouwantit@216.77.188.18>
Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
news:aa3sk21a5ddv5dbnaj96ii104snbnulh56@4ax.com:
On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 15:08:13 +1030 Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> said the following in alt.atheism and I was
immediately reminded of 1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah"
for some reason...
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 19:20:26 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <nhbqk2dn23hmbanbc0q12av2aee2qmlmhd@4ax.com>
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:52:15 GMT, "Mark D J." <Mark D J.@hoyme.com>
wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:qsrpk2tk126lkl4j394d3lh5kvol710202@
It's not a matter of her having to display a cross, it's a matter
of the City of Burbank establishing a religion and supporting a
religion. They could have had an image of a soldier kneeling at a
generic tombstone.
Nah. Christians don't like to believe in generics: they think Darwin
made it all up...
Must be his Theory of Natural Erection.
The Ascent of a Man?
"Cain rose up against Abel his brother"
Kinky.
Jesus called his a "sword"
Where?
A gladiolus?
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05 Nov 2006 07:24:27 PM |
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On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:13:09 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
"Cain rose up against Abel his brother"
Cain was a Republican Congressman.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"If anyone comes to me, and does not hate his father, mother, wife, brothers, and sisters and even himself, he cannot be my disciple."
Luke 14:26
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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06 Nov 2006 04:06:47 AM |
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On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 20:24:27 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
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On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 16:13:09 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
"Cain rose up against Abel his brother"
Cain was a Republican Congressman.
Quite.
He wasn't able.
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05 Nov 2006 12:11:32 AM |
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In article <qsrpk2tk126lkl4j394d3lh5kvol710202@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:41:31 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
Atheist fights City Hall and wins.
It's not a matter of her having to display a cross, it's a matter of
the City of Burbank establishing a religion and supporting a religion.
They could have had an image of a soldier kneeling at a generic
tombstone.
Exactly. Christians were not the only ones to give their lives for their
country.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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05 Nov 2006 07:27:11 PM |
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On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:11:32 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <qsrpk2tk126lkl4j394d3lh5kvol710202@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:41:31 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
Atheist fights City Hall and wins.
It's not a matter of her having to display a cross, it's a matter of
the City of Burbank establishing a religion and supporting a religion.
They could have had an image of a soldier kneeling at a generic
tombstone.
Exactly. Christians were not the only ones to give their lives for their
country.
If you listen to them, we're all Christians. Deistic Christians,
Jewish Christians, atheist Christians (we're Christians but we hate
God) ...
And the US, of course, is a Christian nation, founded by Christians,
to allow Christians to worship without government interference.
So a dead soldier is a Christian who gave his life for a Christian
nation.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"I've heard the call. I believe God wants me to run for president."
- George W. Bush, quoted in George Magazine, September, 2000
"God gave the savior to the German people. We have faith,
deep and unshakeable faith, that he was sent to us by
God to save Germany."
- Hermann Goering, speaking of Hitler
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06 Nov 2006 02:06:24 AM |
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In article <in3tk2drjcohrcso8h4k9pbu6jcvlrkemu@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:11:32 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <qsrpk2tk126lkl4j394d3lh5kvol710202@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:41:31 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
Atheist fights City Hall and wins.
It's not a matter of her having to display a cross, it's a matter of
the City of Burbank establishing a religion and supporting a religion.
They could have had an image of a soldier kneeling at a generic
tombstone.
Exactly. Christians were not the only ones to give their lives for their
country.
If you listen to them, we're all Christians. Deistic Christians,
Jewish Christians, atheist Christians (we're Christians but we hate
God) ...
I know. We're just a bunch of god deniers.
And the US, of course, is a Christian nation, founded by Christians,
to allow Christians to worship without government interference.
And that means everybody! Do ya hear me?!
So a dead soldier is a Christian who gave his life for a Christian
nation.
To their warped way of thinking.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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06 Nov 2006 04:12:52 AM |
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On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 20:27:11 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
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On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:11:32 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <qsrpk2tk126lkl4j394d3lh5kvol710202@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:41:31 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
Atheist fights City Hall and wins.
It's not a matter of her having to display a cross, it's a matter of
the City of Burbank establishing a religion and supporting a religion.
They could have had an image of a soldier kneeling at a generic
tombstone.
Exactly. Christians were not the only ones to give their lives for their
country.
If you listen to them, we're all Christians. Deistic Christians,
Jewish Christians, atheist Christians (we're Christians but we hate
God) ...
And the US, of course, is a Christian nation, founded by Christians,
to allow Christians to worship without government interference.
So a dead soldier is a Christian who gave his life for a Christian
nation.
Slight correction:
A dead soldier is a Christian who gave his life for a Christian
notion.
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06 Nov 2006 10:31:09 AM |
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On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 20:42:52 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Slight correction:
A dead soldier is a Christian who gave his life for a Christian
notion.
I didn't think he was capable of having a notion of his own. Puppets
seldom do.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says is never accurate because he
unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."
-- Bertrand Russell.
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04 Nov 2006 10:35:39 PM |
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On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:54:25 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
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On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:41:31 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
Atheist fights City Hall and wins.
It's not a matter of her having to display a cross, it's a matter of
the City of Burbank establishing a religion and supporting a religion.
They could have had an image of a soldier kneeling at a generic
tombstone.
1 (one) ACME Tombstone
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist doesn't have to display car sticker with cross. |
05 Nov 2006 07:23:57 PM |
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On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 15:05:39 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:54:25 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <qsrpk2tk126lkl4j394d3lh5kvol710202@4ax.com>
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:41:31 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
Atheist fights City Hall and wins.
It's not a matter of her having to display a cross, it's a matter of
the City of Burbank establishing a religion and supporting a religion.
They could have had an image of a soldier kneeling at a generic
tombstone.
1 (one) ACME Tombstone
Beep! Beep!
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rukbat at optonline dot net
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
- H. L. Mencken
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist doesn't have to display car sticker with cross. |
06 Nov 2006 04:11:22 AM |
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On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 20:23:57 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <1l3tk290go6tm95t6sjtiu1u93m1o3mhj7@4ax.com>
On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 15:05:39 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:54:25 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <qsrpk2tk126lkl4j394d3lh5kvol710202@4ax.com>
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:41:31 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
Atheist fights City Hall and wins.
It's not a matter of her having to display a cross, it's a matter of
the City of Burbank establishing a religion and supporting a religion.
They could have had an image of a soldier kneeling at a generic
tombstone.
1 (one) ACME Tombstone
Beep! Beep!
Aahh... the ever-comfortin' sound of those old atheist church-bells!
Reminds me of old blarney, it does.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist doesn't have to display car sticker with cross. |
04 Nov 2006 09:20:55 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Al Klein (rukbat@pern.invalid)
made the light shine upon us with this:
On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 00:41:31 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
Atheist fights City Hall and wins.
It's not a matter of her having to display a cross, it's a matter of
the City of Burbank establishing a religion and supporting a religion.
They could have had an image of a soldier kneeling at a generic
tombstone.
Most officials think the christian icons are part of everyday live. A
tombstone, a cross, a flag, it's all the same to them. They don't think
twice about the fact that they do offend a small portion of the population
by using religious icons.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
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