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"Bush is a Fascist" |
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03 Sep 2005 02:19:54 PM |
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Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
As you know the religious human-exploiters
have assembled to try to help the poor victims
of Katrina. I just want to make the point
that atheist organizations ought to help too,
because being an atheist or agnostic is not about
being heartless obviously, and the propaganda
that says so could be effectively countered
by atheist groups helping while noting the fact
that they are atheists and agnostics.
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| User: "GoDrex" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
03 Sep 2005 05:17:24 PM |
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"Bush is a Fascist" <z333r@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1125757194.089362.55140@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
As you know the religious human-exploiters
have assembled to try to help the poor victims
of Katrina. I just want to make the point
that atheist organizations ought to help too,
because being an atheist or agnostic is not about
being heartless obviously, and the propaganda
that says so could be effectively countered
by atheist groups helping while noting the fact
that they are atheists and agnostics.
A number of secular, non-religious aid organizations are active in this
relief campaign. They do not incorporate a religious message in their
operations, nor do they proselytize to those in need.
a.. AMERICAN NATIONAL RED CROSS (Founded by Deist-Unitarian Clara Barton)
b.. UNITED WAY OF AMERICA
c.. NETWORK FOR GOOD (has numerous listings for helping groups, both
religious and secular)
d.. HUMANE SOCIETY OF THE UNITED STATES (Our winged and four-legged
friends need help, too!)
e.. The MASONIC SERVICES ASSOCIATION OF NORTH AMERICA has established a
Katrina Hurricane Relief fund and accepts on-line donations.
f.. HANDS ON HUMANITY is a project of the Universist Movement. It is
operated by Atheists and other secularists, and is concentrating on the
Birmingham, Ala. area. It has applied for non-profit status.
g.. SECOND HARVEST
h.. AMERICAN FRIENDS SERVICES COMMITTEE
i.. OXFAM AMERICA
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| User: "Bush is a Fascist" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
03 Sep 2005 07:10:23 PM |
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Hmm. On NPR one of the heads of such an org said
that his group was barred from helping at first.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
03 Sep 2005 05:41:15 PM |
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Bush is a Fascist wrote:
As you know the religious human-exploiters
have assembled to try to help the poor victims
of Katrina. I just want to make the point
that atheist organizations ought to help too,
because being an atheist or agnostic is not about
being heartless obviously, and the propaganda
that says so could be effectively countered
by atheist groups helping while noting the fact
that they are atheists and agnostics.
At last count, atheist members of alt.atheism contributed US$1000 to the
relief effort. Other secular organizations, like Hands on Humanity, the
Red Cross, and others, are also helping.
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "If God had intended us to walk, he wouldn't *
* have invented roller skates." --Willy Wonka *
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
03 Sep 2005 07:58:44 PM |
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DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:%elSe.870$9q4.576@trnddc08:
Bush is a Fascist wrote:
As you know the religious human-exploiters
have assembled to try to help the poor victims
of Katrina. I just want to make the point
that atheist organizations ought to help too,
because being an atheist or agnostic is not about
being heartless obviously, and the propaganda
that says so could be effectively countered
by atheist groups helping while noting the fact
that they are atheists and agnostics.
At last count, atheist members of alt.atheism contributed US$1000 to
the relief effort. Other secular organizations, like Hands on
Humanity, the Red Cross, and others, are also helping.
I donated $100 this week to this latest crisis. That's on top of the
$500 for tsunami relief and my $25 per month I have Oxfam charge to my
credit card.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
The suspicious mind believes more than it doubts. It believes in a
formidable and ineradicable evil lurking in every person.
-- Eric Hoffer
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
03 Sep 2005 10:37:50 PM |
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Enkidu the Atheist wrote:
DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
news:%elSe.870$9q4.576@trnddc08:
Bush is a Fascist wrote:
As you know the religious human-exploiters
have assembled to try to help the poor victims
of Katrina. I just want to make the point
that atheist organizations ought to help too,
because being an atheist or agnostic is not about
being heartless obviously, and the propaganda
that says so could be effectively countered
by atheist groups helping while noting the fact
that they are atheists and agnostics.
At last count, atheist members of alt.atheism contributed US$1000 to
the relief effort. Other secular organizations, like Hands on
Humanity, the Red Cross, and others, are also helping.
I donated $100 this week to this latest crisis. That's on top of the
$500 for tsunami relief and my $25 per month I have Oxfam charge to my
credit card.
$3200 now. Really, this is great, folks. I'm so thankful to all of you
guys! 8-)
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "If God had intended us to walk, he wouldn't *
* have invented roller skates." --Willy Wonka *
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
03 Sep 2005 07:27:14 PM |
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DanielSan wrote:
Bush is a Fascist wrote:
As you know the religious human-exploiters
have assembled to try to help the poor victims
of Katrina. I just want to make the point
that atheist organizations ought to help too,
because being an atheist or agnostic is not about
being heartless obviously, and the propaganda
that says so could be effectively countered
by atheist groups helping while noting the fact
that they are atheists and agnostics.
At last count, atheist members of alt.atheism contributed US$1000 to the
relief effort. Other secular organizations, like Hands on Humanity, the
Red Cross, and others, are also helping.
You can add another 2k onto that amount, and 3 pints of blood, (not all
from me, but my son and wife as well).
In all, for the year, this atheist will be claiming almost 9k on taxes
as charitable donations. The Red Cross, United Way, Doctors with out
Borders, Habitat for Humanity.
I wonder how much Puke has donated, in time, money, or blood that is?
His lip service stinks.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 http://azhotops.blogspot.com/
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
03 Sep 2005 08:00:32 PM |
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"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote in
news:j1apu2-jt7.ln1@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com:
DanielSan wrote:
Bush is a Fascist wrote:
As you know the religious human-exploiters
have assembled to try to help the poor victims
of Katrina. I just want to make the point
that atheist organizations ought to help too,
because being an atheist or agnostic is not about
being heartless obviously, and the propaganda
that says so could be effectively countered
by atheist groups helping while noting the fact
that they are atheists and agnostics.
At last count, atheist members of alt.atheism contributed US$1000 to
the relief effort. Other secular organizations, like Hands on
Humanity, the Red Cross, and others, are also helping.
You can add another 2k onto that amount, and 3 pints of blood, (not
all from me, but my son and wife as well).
I can't donate for another 4 weeks. I've donated over 8 gallons so far.
Dook? What does Jesus tell you to do?
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
"The world is full of Laurel and Hardys. I saw them all the time as a
boy at my mother's hotel. There's always the dumb, dumb guy, who never
has anything bad happen to him, and the smart guy who's even dumber than
the dumb guy, only he doesn't know it."
* Oliver Hardy
(01/18/1882 - 08/07/1957)
US actor
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
03 Sep 2005 09:11:01 PM |
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In episode <j1apu2-jt7.ln1@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com>, Rev. Karl E. Taylor burst
into the room and exclaimed:
I wonder how much Puke has donated, in time, money, or blood that is?
I'm betting his "contributions" amount to posting snotty remarks on Usenet...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
03 Sep 2005 09:21:33 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in
news:_6OdnRTH2rT-jIfeRVn-ug@megapath.net:
In episode <j1apu2-jt7.ln1@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com>, Rev. Karl E. Taylor
burst into the room and exclaimed:
I wonder how much Puke has donated, in time, money, or blood that is?
I'm betting his "contributions" amount to posting snotty remarks on
Usenet...
So, as usual, breathes air that would have been put to better use by
others, he eats food that would have been eaten by better human beings,
and leaves nothing but ***** wherever he's been.
That's our dook!
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Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
"The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing."
-- Antony Flew
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
03 Sep 2005 09:39:41 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In episode <j1apu2-jt7.ln1@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com>, Rev. Karl E. Taylor burst
into the room and exclaimed:
I wonder how much Puke has donated, in time, money, or blood that is?
I'm betting his "contributions" amount to posting snotty remarks on Usenet...
While sitting in his comfy chair, tilting back his daily booze intake,
and sporting a woody every time monkey George gets on the boob tube.
Then wasting another 16 hours, trying to figure up ways to "blame
atheists" for the disasters that his god apparently has no control over.
Strange how less then 20% of the population, are responsible for 90% of
the problems, at least, in Puke's mind that is.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 http://azhotops.blogspot.com/
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
04 Sep 2005 09:24:02 AM |
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 16:11:01 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In episode <j1apu2-jt7.ln1@dhcpdns2.ddsoho.com>, Rev. Karl E. Taylor burst
into the room and exclaimed:
I wonder how much Puke has donated, in time, money, or blood that is?
I'm betting his "contributions" amount to posting snotty remarks on Usenet...
That certainly seems to be the main focus of his efforts. Yet another
opportunity to be offensive not missed by this 'Christian'
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
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| User: "erikc" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
05 Sep 2005 05:12:31 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 12:27:14 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote:
DanielSan wrote:
Bush is a Fascist wrote:
As you know the religious human-exploiters
have assembled to try to help the poor victims
of Katrina. I just want to make the point
that atheist organizations ought to help too,
because being an atheist or agnostic is not about
being heartless obviously, and the propaganda
that says so could be effectively countered
by atheist groups helping while noting the fact
that they are atheists and agnostics.
At last count, atheist members of alt.atheism contributed US$1000 to the
relief effort. Other secular organizations, like Hands on Humanity, the
Red Cross, and others, are also helping.
You can add another 2k onto that amount, and 3 pints of blood, (not all
from me, but my son and wife as well).
In all, for the year, this atheist will be claiming almost 9k on taxes
as charitable donations. The Red Cross, United Way, Doctors with out
Borders, Habitat for Humanity.
You are not alone. I know at least 20 Houston atheists _by_name_ who have
done much the same as you have. And many more are helping out with feeding
and sheltering the refugees in the Astrodome.
Als, there is a Pakistani centre close to where I live who are helping shelter
some refugees in thier meeting hall. And I think the Buddhist temple down the
street I live on is caring for a few there as well.
I wonder how much Puke has donated, in time, money, or blood that is?
Nothing at all, I'll wager.
His lip service stinks.
You were actually close enough to smell it? Eeeuww! ;-)
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight (retired) | "The Truth against the World."
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
06 Sep 2005 02:57:23 AM |
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erikc wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 12:27:14 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
< > wrote:
DanielSan wrote:
Bush is a Fascist wrote:
As you know the religious human-exploiters
have assembled to try to help the poor victims
of Katrina. I just want to make the point
that atheist organizations ought to help too,
because being an atheist or agnostic is not about
being heartless obviously, and the propaganda
that says so could be effectively countered
by atheist groups helping while noting the fact
that they are atheists and agnostics.
At last count, atheist members of alt.atheism contributed US$1000 to the
relief effort. Other secular organizations, like Hands on Humanity, the
Red Cross, and others, are also helping.
You can add another 2k onto that amount, and 3 pints of blood, (not all
from me, but my son and wife as well).
In all, for the year, this atheist will be claiming almost 9k on taxes
as charitable donations. The Red Cross, United Way, Doctors with out
Borders, Habitat for Humanity.
You are not alone. I know at least 20 Houston atheists _by_name_ who have
done much the same as you have. And many more are helping out with feeding
and sheltering the refugees in the Astrodome.
It's good to see the human factor, taking humanity seriously. The
actions of those that have no faith, in their care for their fellow
humans is very warming indeed.
Als, there is a Pakistani centre close to where I live who are helping shelter
some refugees in thier meeting hall. And I think the Buddhist temple down the
street I live on is caring for a few there as well.
I wonder how much Puke has donated, in time, money, or blood that is?
Nothing at all, I'll wager.
Well, so far the little ***** won't claim anything. Probably because
he's to blind stinking drunk to get off his ***** and do something.
His lip service stinks.
You were actually close enough to smell it? Eeeuww! ;-)
Puke's lip service stinks from sea to shining sea. It is after all, his
American tradition.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 http://azhotops.blogspot.com/
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
06 Sep 2005 08:19:58 AM |
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On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 19:57:23 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote:
It's good to see the human factor, taking humanity seriously. The
actions of those that have no faith, in their care for their fellow
humans is very warming indeed.
Who says we don't have 'faith' or care for our fellow humanity? We
might might not have blind 'faith' for claimed gods but we do have
faith in other things. I have faith in our fellow man and his
inherrent goodness. I know that if I fall by the wayside there will
always be somebody there to help. Why some people seem to
feel the need to denigrate us and attribute that basic goodness is
beyond mu understanding.
Als, there is a Pakistani centre close to where I live who are helping shelter
some refugees in thier meeting hall. And I think the Buddhist temple down the
street I live on is caring for a few there as well.
Of course.
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
03 Sep 2005 10:31:46 PM |
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:
DanielSan wrote:
Bush is a Fascist wrote:
As you know the religious human-exploiters
have assembled to try to help the poor victims
of Katrina. I just want to make the point
that atheist organizations ought to help too,
because being an atheist or agnostic is not about
being heartless obviously, and the propaganda
that says so could be effectively countered
by atheist groups helping while noting the fact
that they are atheists and agnostics.
At last count, atheist members of alt.atheism contributed US$1000 to the
relief effort. Other secular organizations, like Hands on Humanity, the
Red Cross, and others, are also helping.
You can add another 2k onto that amount, and 3 pints of blood, (not all
from me, but my son and wife as well).
$3100 now? Wowee!
In all, for the year, this atheist will be claiming almost 9k on taxes
as charitable donations. The Red Cross, United Way, Doctors with out
Borders, Habitat for Humanity.
Good for you, Karl! You are to be commended. I doubt, however, that
duke will even respond to this.
I wonder how much Puke has donated, in time, money, or blood that is?
Well, he's contributed his time... by sitting on his bum, making fun of
atheists while he talks to the drywall.
His lip service stinks.
That's not the only thing about him that stinks...
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "If God had intended us to walk, he wouldn't *
* have invented roller skates." --Willy Wonka *
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
03 Sep 2005 11:01:50 PM |
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DanielSan wrote:
Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:
DanielSan wrote:
Bush is a Fascist wrote:
As you know the religious human-exploiters
have assembled to try to help the poor victims
of Katrina. I just want to make the point
that atheist organizations ought to help too,
because being an atheist or agnostic is not about
being heartless obviously, and the propaganda
that says so could be effectively countered
by atheist groups helping while noting the fact
that they are atheists and agnostics.
At last count, atheist members of alt.atheism contributed US$1000 to the
relief effort. Other secular organizations, like Hands on Humanity, the
Red Cross, and others, are also helping.
You can add another 2k onto that amount, and 3 pints of blood, (not all
from me, but my son and wife as well).
$3100 now? Wowee!
Yeah, not bad for a bunch of geeks on the Internet.
In all, for the year, this atheist will be claiming almost 9k on taxes
as charitable donations. The Red Cross, United Way, Doctors with out
Borders, Habitat for Humanity.
Good for you, Karl! You are to be commended. I doubt, however, that
duke will even respond to this.
Well I should hope not. If it does, it means my filters are not working
correctly.
I filtered the putrid fucker a long time ago. But seeing the responses
to his disgusting noise, made me have to say something. Even if I don't
post directly to the useless *****.
I wonder how much Puke has donated, in time, money, or blood that is?
Well, he's contributed his time... by sitting on his bum, making fun of
atheists while he talks to the drywall.
A large waste of skin you probably could not find, out side of
Washington DC that is. And Puke is just more proof, that evolution,
sometimes, does fail.
That whole trial and error thing you know.
His lip service stinks.
That's not the only thing about him that stinks...
Tell me about it.
I'll have to run that disinfectant program through my router again after
this past week. I can smell the ***** for brains ***** head from here.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 http://azhotops.blogspot.com/
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| User: "Humma Kavula" |
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04 Sep 2005 01:13:33 AM |
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 16:01:50 -0700, Rev. Karl E. Taylor let slip this
dark secret:
I'll have to run that disinfectant program through my router again after
this past week. I can smell the ***** for brains ***** head from here.
I take it you don't like this guy. And that you're not really a rev.
--
Oh mighty Arkleseizure, thou gazed from high above.
And sneezed from out thy nostrils, a gift of bounteous love.
The universe around us emerged from thy nose.
Now we await with eager expectation, thy handkerchief,
To bring us back to thee.
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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04 Sep 2005 04:34:34 AM |
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Humma Kavula wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 16:01:50 -0700, Rev. Karl E. Taylor let slip this
dark secret:
I'll have to run that disinfectant program through my router again after
this past week. I can smell the ***** for brains ***** head from here.
I take it you don't like this guy. And that you're not really a rev.
Almost.
I don't like the guy.
And I really am a Reverend.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 http://azhotops.blogspot.com/
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| User: "Kate " |
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03 Sep 2005 06:12:02 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 17:41:15 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com>
wrote:
Bush is a Fascist wrote:
As you know the religious human-exploiters
have assembled to try to help the poor victims
of Katrina. I just want to make the point
that atheist organizations ought to help too,
because being an atheist or agnostic is not about
being heartless obviously, and the propaganda
that says so could be effectively countered
by atheist groups helping while noting the fact
that they are atheists and agnostics.
At last count, atheist members of alt.atheism contributed US$1000 to the
relief effort. Other secular organizations, like Hands on Humanity, the
Red Cross, and others, are also helping.
So far my family has contributed another 325.
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| User: "duke" |
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03 Sep 2005 06:42:40 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 17:41:15 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:
Bush is a Fascist wrote:
As you know the religious human-exploiters
have assembled to try to help the poor victims
of Katrina. I just want to make the point
that atheist organizations ought to help too,
because being an atheist or agnostic is not about
being heartless obviously, and the propaganda
that says so could be effectively countered
by atheist groups helping while noting the fact
that they are atheists and agnostics.
At last count, atheist members of alt.atheism contributed US$1000 to the
relief effort. Other secular organizations, like Hands on Humanity, the
Red Cross, and others, are also helping.
These are not atheist organizations, dummy.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
03 Sep 2005 07:08:07 PM |
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In episode <tjrjh1127eorhga1l84uvn4co5u8gfotta@4ax.com>, duke burst into
the room and exclaimed:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 17:41:15 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com>
wrote:
Bush is a Fascist wrote:
As you know the religious human-exploiters have assembled to try to
help the poor victims of Katrina. I just want to make the point that
atheist organizations ought to help too, because being an atheist or
agnostic is not about being heartless obviously, and the propaganda
that says so could be effectively countered by atheist groups helping
while noting the fact that they are atheists and agnostics.
At last count, atheist members of alt.atheism contributed US$1000 to the
relief effort. Other secular organizations, like Hands on Humanity, the
Red Cross, and others, are also helping.
These are not atheist organizations, dummy.
Oh I get it, if Christians contribute to the Red Cross, that's Christian
charity, if atheists contribute to the Red Cross, they're not doing
anything.
***** you slime.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
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| User: "Kate " |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
03 Sep 2005 07:55:02 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 13:42:40 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 17:41:15 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:
Bush is a Fascist wrote:
As you know the religious human-exploiters
have assembled to try to help the poor victims
of Katrina. I just want to make the point
that atheist organizations ought to help too,
because being an atheist or agnostic is not about
being heartless obviously, and the propaganda
that says so could be effectively countered
by atheist groups helping while noting the fact
that they are atheists and agnostics.
At last count, atheist members of alt.atheism contributed US$1000 to the
relief effort. Other secular organizations, like Hands on Humanity, the
Red Cross, and others, are also helping.
These are not atheist organizations, dummy.
Yes they are dummy.
That's what atheists do, they donate to secular and religous
charities. They don't insist that people have to convert first,
because they moral.
Of course, you don't like that do you? So you pretend it's not true.
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
04 Sep 2005 09:15:15 AM |
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On 3 Sep 2005 14:55:02 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 13:42:40 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 17:41:15 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:
Bush is a Fascist wrote:
As you know the religious human-exploiters
have assembled to try to help the poor victims
of Katrina. I just want to make the point
that atheist organizations ought to help too,
because being an atheist or agnostic is not about
being heartless obviously, and the propaganda
that says so could be effectively countered
by atheist groups helping while noting the fact
that they are atheists and agnostics.
At last count, atheist members of alt.atheism contributed US$1000 to the
relief effort. Other secular organizations, like Hands on Humanity, the
Red Cross, and others, are also helping.
These are not atheist organizations, dummy.
Yes they are dummy.
That's what atheists do, they donate to secular and religous
charities. They don't insist that people have to convert first,
because they moral.
I never donate to Christian organisation. I am not donating my money
so they can push their religion and crow about how compassionate
Christians are. My contributions go to secular organisations that
get on with the job instead of stopping for prayer meetings and'
waving Bibles around.
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| User: "Kate " |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
04 Sep 2005 02:42:53 PM |
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On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 10:15:15 +0100, Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
On 3 Sep 2005 14:55:02 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 13:42:40 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 17:41:15 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:
Bush is a Fascist wrote:
As you know the religious human-exploiters
have assembled to try to help the poor victims
of Katrina. I just want to make the point
that atheist organizations ought to help too,
because being an atheist or agnostic is not about
being heartless obviously, and the propaganda
that says so could be effectively countered
by atheist groups helping while noting the fact
that they are atheists and agnostics.
At last count, atheist members of alt.atheism contributed US$1000 to the
relief effort. Other secular organizations, like Hands on Humanity, the
Red Cross, and others, are also helping.
These are not atheist organizations, dummy.
Yes they are dummy.
That's what atheists do, they donate to secular and religous
charities. They don't insist that people have to convert first,
because they are moral.
I never donate to Christian organisation. I am not donating my money
so they can push their religion and crow about how compassionate
Christians are. My contributions go to secular organisations that
get on with the job instead of stopping for prayer meetings and'
waving Bibles around.
I used to. I don't anymore. They've gotten to the point where they
are too anti-american
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
04 Sep 2005 06:48:40 PM |
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BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper,
High Preistess Bastet of the Unchurch Temple of Si & Am
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"Kate " <> wrote in message
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On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 10:15:15 +0100, Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
On 3 Sep 2005 14:55:02 -0500, (Kate ) wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 13:42:40 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 17:41:15 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com>
wrote:
Bush is a Fascist wrote:
As you know the religious human-exploiters
have assembled to try to help the poor victims
of Katrina. I just want to make the point
that atheist organizations ought to help too,
because being an atheist or agnostic is not about
being heartless obviously, and the propaganda
that says so could be effectively countered
by atheist groups helping while noting the fact
that they are atheists and agnostics.
At last count, atheist members of alt.atheism contributed US$1000 to
the
relief effort. Other secular organizations, like Hands on Humanity,
the
Red Cross, and others, are also helping.
These are not atheist organizations, dummy.
Yes they are dummy.
That's what atheists do, they donate to secular and religous
charities. They don't insist that people have to convert first,
because they are moral.
I never donate to Christian organisation. I am not donating my money
so they can push their religion and crow about how compassionate
Christians are. My contributions go to secular organisations that
get on with the job instead of stopping for prayer meetings and'
waving Bibles around.
I used to. I don't anymore. They've gotten to the point where they
are too anti-american
Are you saying that the American Red Cross is anti-American?
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| User: "Kate " |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
04 Sep 2005 07:15:01 PM |
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On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 14:48:40 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
I never donate to Christian organisation. I am not donating my money
so they can push their religion and crow about how compassionate
Christians are. My contributions go to secular organisations that
get on with the job instead of stopping for prayer meetings and'
waving Bibles around.
I used to. I don't anymore. They've gotten to the point where they
are too anti-american
Are you saying that the American Red Cross is anti-American?
The Red Cross isn't a religous organization. I don't contribute to
religous organizations anymore, because the religions have gotten too
anti-american.
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
04 Sep 2005 09:09:50 AM |
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 13:42:40 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 17:41:15 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:
Bush is a Fascist wrote:
As you know the religious human-exploiters
have assembled to try to help the poor victims
of Katrina. I just want to make the point
that atheist organizations ought to help too,
because being an atheist or agnostic is not about
being heartless obviously, and the propaganda
that says so could be effectively countered
by atheist groups helping while noting the fact
that they are atheists and agnostics.
At last count, atheist members of alt.atheism contributed US$1000 to the
relief effort. Other secular organizations, like Hands on Humanity, the
Red Cross, and others, are also helping.
These are not atheist organizations, dummy.
Nor are they Christian ones.
Actually I have not yet seen any Christian organisations helping
either. The only shelter these people seems to have got is in the
not so superdome and the one in Houston. I don't see any cathedrals
or churches with open doors taking in people.
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| User: "Bush is a Fascist" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
04 Sep 2005 05:17:53 PM |
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Les Hellawell wrote:
Actually I have not yet seen any Christian organisations helping
either.
I have. A local rightwing Xian boy is going to down Louisiana
to help out I think tomorrow. Good riddens I say.
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| User: "Bush is a Fascist" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
04 Sep 2005 05:23:21 PM |
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Les Hellawell wrote:
Actually I have not yet seen any Christian organisations helping
either.
I have. A local rightwing Xian boy is going to down Louisiana
to help out I think tomorrow. Good riddens I say.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
03 Sep 2005 09:23:44 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 17:41:15 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote:
Bush is a Fascist wrote:
As you know the religious human-exploiters
have assembled to try to help the poor victims
of Katrina. I just want to make the point
that atheist organizations ought to help too,
because being an atheist or agnostic is not about
being heartless obviously, and the propaganda
that says so could be effectively countered
by atheist groups helping while noting the fact
that they are atheists and agnostics.
At last count, atheist members of alt.atheism contributed US$1000 to the
relief effort. Other secular organizations, like Hands on Humanity, the
Red Cross, and others, are also helping.
These are not atheist organizations, dummy.
Yes, they are.
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| User: "Vivapadrepios personal Cthulhu" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
04 Sep 2005 01:56:25 AM |
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Cometh the hour, cometh "Bush is a Fascist" <z333r@yahoo.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:
being an atheist or agnostic is not about
being heartless obviously, and the propaganda
that says so could be effectively countered
by atheist groups helping while noting the fact
that they are atheists and agnostics.
It is about thinking for yourself, and this tends to make organising
atheists about as fruitful an exercise as herding cats. IMHO, however,
it needs to be done. The question is: How?
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David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
Either religion goes or civilisation does. It's that simple.
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist groups should help w/Katrina |
03 Sep 2005 03:11:25 PM |
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Guess what, there are no group or association based on atheism...
because being atheist is not about being member of a club...
Are you that naive?
On the other hand, there are several secular ones, such as the Red
Cross which is already helping...
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