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Atheist renews challenge to 'under God' |
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Atheist renews challenge to 'under God'
Rejected by Supreme Court on technical grounds but finds new plaintiffs
Posted: November 21, 2007
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California atheist activist Michael Newdow is renewing his fight to remove
reference to God from the Pledge of Allegiance, this time with a suit filed
on behalf of an anonymous New Hampshire couple against a school district.
The couple, an agnostic and atheist with three children, say in their
complaint that they "generally, deny that God exists" and contend their
constitutional rights are violated when school authorities require their
children to "participate in making the purely religious, monotheistic claim
that the United States is 'one nation under God.'"
Newdow previously sued over the inclusion of "under God" in the pledge, but
his claims were rejected by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2004 on technical
grounds. The self-described atheist said he did not want his third-grade
daughter to have to listen to the phrase "under God" in a public school.
Five justices, however, found Newdow did not have the legal standing to
bring the case. He never married the child's mother, who has expressed
support for having "under God" in the pledge.
"To give the parent of such a child a sort of 'heckler's veto' over a
patriotic ceremony willingly participated in by other students, simply
because the Pledge of Allegiance contains the descriptive phrase 'under
God,' is an unwarranted extension of the establishment clause, an extension
which would have the unfortunate effect of prohibiting a commendable
patriotic observance," then-Chief Justice William Rehnquist wrote in
rejecting Newdow's appeal.
The couple in the current lawsuit, from Hanover, N.H., are also represented
by an activist group based in Madison, Wis., the Freedom From Religion
Foundation.
Newdow told the Nashua Telegraph he believes children shouldn't be coerced
to assert the existence of God, let alone allegiance to a supreme being.
Schools and the government should have nothing to do with religion and
religious rituals, he argued, contending there are "numerous instances where
kids are traumatized for life."
The phrase "under God" was added to the Pledge of Allegiance in 1954 by
Congress. Two years later, Congress made "In God We Trust" the country's
official motto.
Courts also have turned back efforts by Newdow to challenge the phrase
printed on U.S. currency.
The Hanover couple argues the peer pressure that results from refusing to
say the pledge is coercive and unfairly challenges a child's patriotism.
Their lawsuit says that by "endorsing the religious notion that God exists,
the now-religious Pledge creates a societal environment where prejudice
against atheists - and, thus, against Plaintiffs here - is perpetuated."
They further argue the rights of the parents to instill in their children
"religious beliefs they find persuasive - free from governmental influence -
has been abridged by Defendants' practices."
The complaint notes the couple does not object to reciting the pledge but
contends "government may not employ or include sectarian religious dogma
towards this end."
"By placing the religious words 'under God' into the Pledge, Congress not
only interfered with the patriotism and national unity the Pledge was meant
to engender, but it actually fostered divisiveness . in a manner expressly
forbidden by the Constitution,' the suit claims.
As WND reported in May, the Texas Legislature voted to add the words "under
God" to the state pledge.
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| Title: Which God? The three God Trinity? Jesus? Allah? Mohammad's Son? |
22 Nov 2007 09:08:38 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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Which God? The three God Trinity? Jesus? Allah? Mohammad's Son?
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24 Nov 2007 11:13:42 AM |
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:08:38 -0500, "Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com> wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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Which God? The three God Trinity? Jesus? Allah? Mohammad's Son?
Mohammad's son was not a god, or god, and neither was mohammad.
Three faiths believe in the one God:
Hebrews - called Jews, servants of God, God named Yahweh.
Islam - called Muslims, submissive to God, called Allah
Christianity - called Christians, family of God, called God almighty.
All 3 call Abraham the father of their faith.
duke, American-American
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| Title: Re: Which God? The three God Trinity? Jesus? Allah? Mohammad's Son? |
24 Nov 2007 10:49:16 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:08:38 -0500, "Frank Arthur" <Art@Arthurian.com>
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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Which God? The three God Trinity? Jesus? Allah? Mohammad's Son?
Mohammad's son was not a god, or god, and neither was mohammad.
Three faiths believe in the one God:
Hebrews - called Jews, servants of God, God named Yahweh.
Islam - called Muslims, submissive to God, called Allah
Christianity - called Christians, family of God, called God almighty.
All 3 call Abraham the father of their faith.
And this makes these myths and fables true???
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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25 Nov 2007 08:08:32 AM |
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On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 16:49:16 -0000, "Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Which God? The three God Trinity? Jesus? Allah? Mohammad's Son?
Mohammad's son was not a god, or god, and neither was mohammad.
Three faiths believe in the one God:
Hebrews - called Jews, servants of God, God named Yahweh.
Islam - called Muslims, submissive to God, called Allah
Christianity - called Christians, family of God, called God almighty.
All 3 call Abraham the father of their faith.
And this makes these myths and fables true???
Are you one of those that believes the fable that God is a myth?
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "ike milligan" |
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22 Nov 2007 07:31:52 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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Atheist renews challenge to 'under God'
How far under God? If there were one, the Nation would be so far under it,
it would already be in Hell.
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22 Nov 2007 12:50:20 AM |
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On 22 nov, 07:08, "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
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Use serious sources if you want to be taken seriously, moron.
Wednesday, November 21, 2007
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Atheist renews challenge to 'under God'
Good for them...
Now, wanna discuss the christians who want to put the ten commandments
in court?
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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22 Nov 2007 01:39:58 AM |
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On Nov 22, 1:50 am, wrote:
On 22 nov, 07:08, "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:
Good for them...
Now, wanna discuss the christians who want to put the ten commandments
in court?
Which Ten? The Protestant, Catholic or Hebrew? The list given in
Exodus 20, Exodus 34 or Deuteronomy 5? Pick one and you deliberately
offend those who support another version.
Sounds like JY wants to recreate this time in our history:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Nativist_Riots
Rich Goranson
Amherst, NY, USA
aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1
EAC Department of Cruel and Unusual Choreography
"There is no such source and cause of strife, quarrel, fights,
malignant opposition, persecution, and war, and all evil in the state,
as religion. Let it once enter our civil affairs, our government would
soon be destroyed. Let it once enter our common schools, they would be
destroyed." - Supreme Court of Wisconsin, Weiss v. District Board
(1890)
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22 Nov 2007 07:47:50 AM |
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 01:08:33 -0500, J Young wrote:
This is a WorldNutDaily printer-insane version of the stupidity which
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