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"Stephen Stink" |
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29 May 2005 04:52:07 PM |
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Atheists and Christians are both right. |
What if the physical universe is God? Some have an anthropomorphic
concept to God. Some claim he/she are omnipresence. Some think of God
having a Human form. What if God is just the physical universe? You got
to admit that the physical design of the universe is intricate and
abstract! As a Agnostic I think about things like this.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Enronscam/
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| User: "Santolina chamaecyparissus" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists and Christians are both right. |
29 May 2005 10:00:42 PM |
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"Stephen Stink" <not4udude@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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What if the physical universe is God?
It isn't. God is the proper name of an ancient tribal deity with buttocks.
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| User: "Sour Clayton and Chives Flavoured Pringles...POP" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists and Christians are both right. |
29 May 2005 05:24:23 PM |
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"Stephen Stink" <not4udude@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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What if the physical universe is God? Some have an anthropomorphic
concept to God. Some claim he/she are omnipresence. Some think of God
having a Human form. What if God is just the physical universe? You got
to admit that the physical design of the universe is intricate and
abstract! As a Agnostic I think about things like this.
Why bother calling it God? Why not call it a carrot...or a water
buffolo....or happy smiley farts?
That's like naming your dog "God" and using that as an argument that God
exists!
You're just putting a fake Groucho nose and glasses on the universe!
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists and Christians are both right. |
29 May 2005 05:36:14 PM |
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On 29 May 2005 14:52:07 -0700, "Stephen Stink" <not4udude@yahoo.com>
in news message <1117403527.198133.58270@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
wrote:
What if the physical universe is God? Some have an anthropomorphic
concept to God. Some claim he/she are omnipresence. Some think of God
having a Human form. What if God is just the physical universe? You got
to admit that the physical design of the universe is intricate and
abstract! As a Agnostic I think about things like this.
Whatever floats your boat. If you wish, you can build a church
dedicated to the universe and worship it. There have been plenty of
stupider beliefs.
Liz #658 BAAWA
Liz, you like most people do not want to have faith in
things which have no basis in reality. -- josalt
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists and Christians are both right. |
30 May 2005 11:00:53 PM |
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On 29 May 2005 14:52:07 -0700, "Stephen Stink" <not4udude@yahoo.com>
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What if the physical universe is God? Some have an anthropomorphic
concept to God. Some claim he/she are omnipresence. Some think of God
having a Human form. What if God is just the physical universe? You got
to admit that the physical design of the universe is intricate and
abstract! As a Agnostic I think about things like this.
Why?
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"This is how liberty dies: with thunderous applause"
- Padme Amidala, Episode III
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| User: "dgillesp" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists and Christians are both right. |
29 May 2005 05:05:18 PM |
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Stephen Stink wrote:
What if the physical universe is God? Some have an anthropomorphic
concept to God. Some claim he/she are omnipresence. Some think of God
having a Human form. What if God is just the physical universe? You got
to admit that the physical design of the universe is intricate and
abstract! As a Agnostic I think about things like this.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Enronscam/
"The man who sees both sides of a question should be hit on both sides
of the head."
-- G. K. Chesterton
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| User: "Katt" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists and Christians are both right. |
29 May 2005 08:47:10 PM |
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"dgillesp" <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in message
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"The man who sees both sides of a question should be hit on both sides
of the head."
-- G. K. Chesterton
I see. Your idea of a worthwhile response to a sincere and thoughtful
posting about a deeply felt issue is to append some 'amusing' apology for
unprovoked violence of a kind that would have had a towering genius like
Shakespeare subjected to brutal attack and probable brain damage? The same
Shakespeare who, with his superhuman ability to explore simultaneously a
variety of mutually contradictory moral positions, motivations and
experiential realities, enriched our lives beyond measure and constituted a
cultural and spiritual phenomenon that knocks the barbaric platitudes of
your 'Bible' into the *****-bucket?
You pathetic little abortion! You sad excuse for a human being! You walking
emetic!
You know, I think I'm gonna make you my *special project*, dearie.
Seriously. I'm gonna focus on *you*, and the hateful slug-trail of
conceptual and emotional bankruptcy you drag across a n/g you are not even
fit to read. So: wherever you are on alt.atheism, I'll be there. Watching.
Checking. And wherever you post a lie, a distortion, or a justification for
psychotic violence and disgusting oppression, *I will nail it*. You got
that, you demented little *****?
Stand by, dearie. You are about to enter a *whole new world* of hurt and
humiliation!
Katt.
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| User: "Ike" |
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29 May 2005 10:13:28 PM |
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote in message
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"dgillesp" <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in message
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"The man who sees both sides of a question should be hit on both sides
of the head."
-- G. K. Chesterton
I see. Your idea of a worthwhile response to a sincere and thoughtful
posting about a deeply felt issue is to append some 'amusing' apology for
unprovoked violence of a kind that would have had a towering genius like
Shakespeare subjected to brutal attack and probable brain damage? The same
Shakespeare who, with his superhuman ability to explore simultaneously a
variety of mutually contradictory moral positions, motivations and
experiential realities, enriched our lives beyond measure and constituted
a cultural and spiritual phenomenon that knocks the barbaric platitudes of
your 'Bible' into the *****-bucket?
You pathetic little abortion! You sad excuse for a human being! You
walking emetic!
You know, I think I'm gonna make you my *special project*, dearie.
Seriously. I'm gonna focus on *you*, and the hateful slug-trail of
conceptual and emotional bankruptcy you drag across a n/g you are not even
fit to read. So: wherever you are on alt.atheism, I'll be there. Watching.
Checking. And wherever you post a lie, a distortion, or a justification
for psychotic violence and disgusting oppression, *I will nail it*. You
got that, you demented little *****?
Stand by, dearie. You are about to enter a *whole new world* of hurt and
humiliation!
Katt.
Like, someone say to Chesterton.. "Maybe God and the Universe are the same."
Whack1 Up both sides of the haid! Seriously, I never seen no Universe.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists and Christians are both right. |
29 May 2005 10:34:29 PM |
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'amusing' apology for unprovoked violence of a kind that would
have had a towering genius like Shakespeare subjected to
brutal attack and probable brain damage?
Shakespeare was a scientist?
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God is self-evident.
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Searching only pain you'll find.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists and Christians are both right. |
29 May 2005 10:53:48 PM |
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<beenbe@lawyer.com> wrote
Shakespeare was a scientist?
There are many who will tell you that Shakespeare wasn't
even a writer.
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| User: "" |
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29 May 2005 10:50:47 PM |
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There are many who will tell you that Shakespeare wasn't
even a writer.
yet he was a genius.
Where did Katt say that?
She didn't, I'm just wondering why Shakespeare knows more than Flew, a
spry man who still does not believe in an afterlife.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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29 May 2005 11:13:29 PM |
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<beenbe@lawyer.com> wrote
There are many who will tell you that Shakespeare wasn't
even a writer.
yet he was a genius.
It's slipping past you, but let me try again: There are many
who will tell you that Shakespeare never wrote a damn
thing. Ever.
Am I the only one who can invent quotes?
No.
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| User: "ArWeGod" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists and Christians are both right. |
07 Jun 2005 05:15:31 AM |
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"JTEM" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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It's slipping past you, but let me try again: There are many
who will tell you that Shakespeare never wrote a damn
thing. Ever.
You could not come up with the superb verbiage for a story, given a
sitcom plot. Turn any 3's company plot into a play to refute the Bard.
I would like to see this is a new thread. I don't think the man invented
(any | all) the stories, he took things previously made and turned them
into plays at an incredible speed. But I truly admire his "turn of
phrase" as he was definitely a wordsmith genius!
No one may depreciate a man for using a story idea and making it his
own.
You suck.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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29 May 2005 10:53:07 PM |
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There are many who will tell you that Shakespeare wasn't
even a writer.
yet he was a genius.
Subjective notion.
Where did Katt say that?
She didn't, I'm just wondering why Shakespeare knows more than Flew, a
spry man who still does not believe in an afterlife.
Was Katt comparing Shakespeare to Flew? I looked at the previous posts
and she's not.
Are you feeling okay, beenbe? By the way, it's a school night.
Shouldn't you be getting to bed?
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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29 May 2005 10:37:06 PM |
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wrote:
'amusing' apology for unprovoked violence of a kind that would
have had a towering genius like Shakespeare subjected to
brutal attack and probable brain damage?
Shakespeare was a scientist?
Where did Katt say that? Please quote. There'll be a test on this.
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| User: "Richo" |
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29 May 2005 10:55:54 PM |
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Katt wrote:
"dgillesp" <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:429A3C9E.97E73910@nospam.net...
"The man who sees both sides of a question should be hit on both sides
of the head."
-- G. K. Chesterton
I see. Your idea of a worthwhile response to a sincere and thoughtful
posting about a deeply felt issue
Eh? The original poster posted incoherent gibberish.
At least i understand denny's joke.
Mark.
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| User: "Katt" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists and Christians are both right. |
29 May 2005 11:02:33 PM |
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"Richo" <m.richardson@utas.edu.au> wrote in message
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Eh? The original poster posted incoherent gibberish.
Indeed he did. And I hold no brief for the kind of nonsense that 'saves' the
concept of (unfindable) 'God' by *making it co-extensive with all of
discoverable reality*. My judgement was that the post was, within its
limitations, thoughtful and sincerely meant, however. And that's good enough
for me.
What's more, if it *wasn't* sincerely meant, then your friend's
violence-friendly aphorism was *even less appropriate*...
Katt.
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| User: "Andrew Lias" |
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31 May 2005 08:23:44 AM |
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Stephen Stink wrote:
What if the physical universe is God?
And what if, like, the entire universe is an atom in somebody elses
universe, and their universe is, like an atom in an even bigger
universe?
Speculation is fun, but unless you can offer some evidence in support
of a speculation, it's nothing more than mental masturbation.
Some have an anthropomorphic
concept to God. Some claim he/she are omnipresence. Some think of God
having a Human form. What if God is just the physical universe?
If the word "God" is merely a synonym for the physical universe, it's
redundant and unnecessary. If your suggestion is that the physical
universe has some characteristics that we typically associate with the
concept -- say a will and an ability to act upon that will -- then you
will need to offer more than simple suppositions.
You got
to admit that the physical design of the universe is intricate and
abstract!
Intricate, certainly. Abstract? I'm honestly not sure how you mean
that.
As a Agnostic I think about things like this.
That's nice. Grand speculations can be fun (much like real
masturbation); however, if you want to do more than throw around
gee-whiz ideas, you need to bolster some of them with compelling
evidence.
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Andrew Lias
http://andrewlias.blogspot.com
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| User: "Richo" |
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29 May 2005 10:50:28 PM |
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Stephen Stink wrote:
What if the physical universe is God?
That sentence has no sensible meaning that I can understand.
If you *meant* to write "what if the physical universe is a god" or
"what if I choose to call the Physical Universe "God" and worship it"
or something along those lines...
Then I say : I don't care.
Anybody can make anything they like 'god' - it is entirely their own
buisness what they choose to venerate and worship.
I don't worship or venerate *any* god - I am godless.
Some have an anthropomorphic
concept to God. Some claim he/she are omnipresence. Some think of God
having a Human form. What if God is just the physical universe?
What if Queen Elizabeth II of England is the Physical universe?
What if a particular peanut in a jar is the Physical universe?
What if Tiddles the cat is a dog?
What if Michael Jackson is an Octopus?
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And so on.
to admit that the physical design of the universe is intricate and
abstract!
No i dont.
As a Agnostic I think about things like this.
As a rational being I like think things that have the posibility of
making sense.
Mark.
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| User: "wcb" |
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29 May 2005 08:58:17 PM |
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Stephen Stink wrote:
What if the physical universe is God?
What if its the EASTER BUNNNY!!!!
Or maybe Santa Claus?
Or even Satan!
Wow! It blows my mind1 Let's huff some more of that
lacquer thinner.
Some have an anthropomorphic
concept to God. Some claim he/she are omnipresence. Some think of God
having a Human form. What if God is just the physical universe? You got
to admit that the physical design of the universe is intricate and
abstract! As a Agnostic I think about things like this.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Enronscam/
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When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Graham Kennedy" |
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29 May 2005 05:47:18 PM |
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Stephen Stink wrote:
What if the physical universe is God? Some have an anthropomorphic
concept to God. Some claim he/she are omnipresence. Some think of God
having a Human form. What if God is just the physical universe? You got
to admit that the physical design of the universe is intricate and
abstract! As a Agnostic I think about things like this.
All you are doing is redefining god to be something
that we know to exists. I might as well say what if
my rubber ducky is god.
--
Graham Kennedy
Creator and Author,
Daystrom Institute Technical Library
http://www.ditl.org
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| User: "Jimmy B." |
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30 May 2005 04:39:55 PM |
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Graham Kennedy wrote:
Stephen Stink wrote:
What if the physical universe is God? Some have an anthropomorphic
concept to God. Some claim he/she are omnipresence. Some think of God
having a Human form. What if God is just the physical universe? You got
to admit that the physical design of the universe is intricate and
abstract! As a Agnostic I think about things like this.
All you are doing is redefining god to be something
that we know to exists. I might as well say what if
my rubber ducky is god.
OH! Can I pray to your rubber ducky? Wait a minute, that didn't come
out right. . .
:-)
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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29 May 2005 04:57:31 PM |
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Stephen Stink wrote:
What if the physical universe is God? Some have an anthropomorphic
concept to God. Some claim he/she are omnipresence. Some think of God
having a Human form. What if God is just the physical universe? You got
to admit that the physical design of the universe is intricate and
abstract! As a Agnostic I think about things like this.
Sure, the universe is intricate. Intricate means having many smaller
elements. There is complexity to the universe, no doubt, but complexity
derives from simplicity.
A computer is a complex machine, yet it is simply silicon, iron, carbon,
and a couple other simple elements.
Looking at the universe and seeing its complexity and assuming that it
must've been "designed" is missing the trees for the forest.
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| User: "" |
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29 May 2005 10:39:46 PM |
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Looking at the universe and seeing its complexity and assuming that it
must've been "designed" is missing the trees for the forest.
size does not always result in complexity.
the design of a single atom is more complex than a huge round boulder.
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God is self-evident.
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Searching only pain you'll find.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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29 May 2005 10:56:07 PM |
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<beenbe@lawyer.com> wrote
size does not always result in complexity.
I think I read that one a fortune cookie.
the design of a single atom is more complex than
a huge round boulder.
And here I thought that a boulder would have to be
made up of atoms.... A whole lot of atoms.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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29 May 2005 10:47:11 PM |
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wrote:
Looking at the universe and seeing its complexity and assuming that it
must've been "designed" is missing the trees for the forest.
size does not always result in complexity.
the design of a single atom is more complex than a huge round boulder.
Well, being that boulders are made up of trillions upon trillions of
atoms, I'd say that atoms are simpler than the boulder.
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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29 May 2005 05:06:45 PM |
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on 29 May 2005 in alt.atheism, Stephen Stink dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then shouted:
What if the physical universe is God?
You are grasping at straws. Remember Occam's Razor.
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
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