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User:	"Roshard Davis"
Date:	03 Oct 2003 03:15:08 PM
Object:	Atheists and Scientists.

Greetings everyone. Are there any atheists in here (or any other
discussion group that I just crossposted to) that have or will have a
degree in any scientific field? Are there any atheists in here that
are biologists, physicists, astronomers, doctors, physicians,
chemists, etc.? If you have a degree in it, how long have you been in
that line of work?
I plan on getting a degree in Nursing and Pharmacology (my major goal)
and working on a degree in electronics (as a second career goal if
that makes sense to some of you).
Thanks.
Visit My Website:
http://www.geocities.com/freedomwarrior5000
.

User: "MarcRW"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	03 Oct 2003 09:29:31 PM

"Roshard Davis" <superillusion666@webtv.net> wrote in message
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BS in Applied Mathematics.
BS in Physics.
Short career for the DoD, then a teaching credential since '86.
Atheist since 1959.
My wife has a degree in Biology, spent 15 years as a chemist for Merck and
for Monsanto. Now worlking on an RN.
Atheist and recovering Catholic since 1972.
Marc
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User: "LisaKay"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	05 Oct 2003 11:59:58 AM

(Roshard Davis) wrote in message news:<4caa8c9f.0310031215.321e7a4f@posting.google.com>...

Greetings everyone. Are there any atheists in here (or any other
discussion group that I just crossposted to) that have or will have a
degree in any scientific field? Are there any atheists in here that
are biologists, physicists, astronomers, doctors, physicians,
chemists, etc.? If you have a degree in it, how long have you been in
that line of work?

I plan on getting a degree in Nursing and Pharmacology (my major goal)
and working on a degree in electronics (as a second career goal if
that makes sense to some of you).

Thanks.

Visit My Website:
http://www.geocities.com/freedomwarrior5000

LisaKay aa#2054
-BS in biology
-HS science teacher
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User: "Mark W"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	07 Oct 2003 07:39:45 AM

"LisaKay" <LisaKay2054@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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superillusion666@webtv.net (Roshard Davis) wrote in message

news:<4caa8c9f.0310031215.321e7a4f@posting.google.com>...

Greetings everyone. Are there any atheists in here (or any other
discussion group that I just crossposted to) that have or will have a
degree in any scientific field? Are there any atheists in here that
are biologists, physicists, astronomers, doctors, physicians,
chemists, etc.? If you have a degree in it, how long have you been in
that line of work?

I plan on getting a degree in Nursing and Pharmacology (my major goal)
and working on a degree in electronics (as a second career goal if
that makes sense to some of you).

Thanks.

Visit My Website:
http://www.geocities.com/freedomwarrior5000

LisaKay aa#2054
-BS in biology
-HS science teacher

Start last year of a BSc Biochemistry course on Thursday.
.

User: "johac"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	06 Oct 2003 12:51:04 AM

In article <1dbe2aec.0310050859.7e2412d2@posting.google.com>,

(LisaKay) wrote:

superillusion666@webtv.net (Roshard Davis) wrote in message
news:<4caa8c9f.0310031215.321e7a4f@posting.google.com>...

Greetings everyone. Are there any atheists in here (or any other
discussion group that I just crossposted to) that have or will have a
degree in any scientific field? Are there any atheists in here that
are biologists, physicists, astronomers, doctors, physicians,
chemists, etc.? If you have a degree in it, how long have you been in
that line of work?

I plan on getting a degree in Nursing and Pharmacology (my major goal)
and working on a degree in electronics (as a second career goal if
that makes sense to some of you).

Thanks.

Visit My Website:
http://www.geocities.com/freedomwarrior5000

LisaKay aa#2054
-BS in biology
-HS science teacher

<piggybacking>
Ph. D. Chemistry.
Over 35 yrs experience in biotech and related fields.
--
John Hachmann, aa #1782

Pierre Laplace, when asked by Napoleon on why he made
no mention of a god in his book on astronomy: "Sire,
I have no need of that hypothesis."
.

User: "Editor of EvilBible.com"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	06 Oct 2003 12:56:33 PM

[Note: I didn't see the original post so I am responding down the thread a
little bit.]

superillusion666@webtv.net (Roshard Davis) wrote in message
news:<4caa8c9f.0310031215.321e7a4f@posting.google.com>...

Greetings everyone. Are there any atheists in here (or any other
discussion group that I just crossposted to) that have or will have a
degree in any scientific field? Are there any atheists in here that
are biologists, physicists, astronomers, doctors, physicians,
chemists, etc.? If you have a degree in it, how long have you been in
that line of work?

I plan on getting a degree in Nursing and Pharmacology (my major goal)
and working on a degree in electronics (as a second career goal if
that makes sense to some of you).

Thanks.

Visit My Website:
http://www.geocities.com/freedomwarrior5000

I have a Masters in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology and currently work at
a medical school doing laboratory research (about 15 years experience).
As for your career goals you need to decide which direction you want to go.
There is nothing wrong with learning electronics but I don't think it will
be of much use in a career as a nurse. If you want to become a pharmacist,
you need to pursue this path until you get licensed. If you want to do
laboratory research you need a lot of hard science classes and less clinical
courses such as nursing.
Let me go in to some details:
Electronics: I don't know too much about this career field so you might
want to ask someone else how much education you need and how much they get
paid.
Nursing: The pay is not very good and often the hours suck and you may get
very little respect from the doctors at work, especially at the lower levels
of nursing. The higher nursing degrees or a Physician's Assistant degree
pay a lot more and you get more interesting work. One good thing is that
there is usually plenty of jobs where ever you may live.
Pharmacist: Good pay starting at about $60 - 80K/yr, and you can find work
any where in the country. It is not as hard as becoming a doctor and it is
not as demanding on your time. You can also work part time if you want more
free time or overtime if you want more money.
If you were trying to get into clinical research with a Bachelor's degree
you would most likely be hired as a nurse or a research nurse and would not
get paid much more than a regular nurse. A major disadvantage is that most
of these jobs are in major cities. If you wanted to live in the country you
would have a major commute or might need to find another career.
If you were interested in a career in laboratory medical research, it helps
to have a graduate degree. You can get by with a Bachelor's degree but it
may take a while to get some experience and better pay. Pay starts pretty
low but at least it gets bigger with more experience. Usually nursing and
pharmacist jobs don't increase pay as much with an increase in experience.
Also most of the good jobs are in major cities.
Perhaps the most important thing to do is decide what kind of job you like
and can see yourself doing for a long time. If the thought of standing
behind a drug store pharmacy counter filling prescriptions and answering
questions for the next 40 years irritates you then perhaps you shouldn't
pursue the pharmacist career.
.

User: "Roshard Davis"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	07 Oct 2003 02:37:16 AM

"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message news:<blsacn$hp3$1@bob.news.rcn.net>...

[Note: I didn't see the original post so I am responding down the thread a
little bit.]

superillusion666@webtv.net (Roshard Davis) wrote in message
news:<4caa8c9f.0310031215.321e7a4f@posting.google.com>...

Greetings everyone. Are there any atheists in here (or any other
discussion group that I just crossposted to) that have or will have a
degree in any scientific field? Are there any atheists in here that
are biologists, physicists, astronomers, doctors, physicians,
chemists, etc.? If you have a degree in it, how long have you been in
that line of work?

I plan on getting a degree in Nursing and Pharmacology (my major goal)
and working on a degree in electronics (as a second career goal if
that makes sense to some of you).

Thanks.

Visit My Website:
http://www.geocities.com/freedomwarrior5000

I have a Masters in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology and currently work at
a medical school doing laboratory research (about 15 years experience).

As for your career goals you need to decide which direction you want to go.
There is nothing wrong with learning electronics but I don't think it will
be of much use in a career as a nurse. If you want to become a pharmacist,
you need to pursue this path until you get licensed. If you want to do
laboratory research you need a lot of hard science classes and less clinical
courses such as nursing.

Let me go in to some details:

Electronics: I don't know too much about this career field so you might
want to ask someone else how much education you need and how much they get
paid.

Nursing: The pay is not very good and often the hours suck and you may get
very little respect from the doctors at work, especially at the lower levels
of nursing. The higher nursing degrees or a Physician's Assistant degree
pay a lot more and you get more interesting work. One good thing is that
there is usually plenty of jobs where ever you may live.

Pharmacist: Good pay starting at about $60 - 80K/yr, and you can find work
any where in the country. It is not as hard as becoming a doctor and it is
not as demanding on your time. You can also work part time if you want more
free time or overtime if you want more money.

If you were trying to get into clinical research with a Bachelor's degree
you would most likely be hired as a nurse or a research nurse and would not
get paid much more than a regular nurse. A major disadvantage is that most
of these jobs are in major cities. If you wanted to live in the country you
would have a major commute or might need to find another career.

If you were interested in a career in laboratory medical research, it helps
to have a graduate degree. You can get by with a Bachelor's degree but it
may take a while to get some experience and better pay. Pay starts pretty
low but at least it gets bigger with more experience. Usually nursing and
pharmacist jobs don't increase pay as much with an increase in experience.
Also most of the good jobs are in major cities.

Perhaps the most important thing to do is decide what kind of job you like
and can see yourself doing for a long time. If the thought of standing
behind a drug store pharmacy counter filling prescriptions and answering
questions for the next 40 years irritates you then perhaps you shouldn't
pursue the pharmacist career.

Hey Editor of Evil Bible. Let me ask your opinion on something then.
I'm interested in both the medical field/biology and
electronics/technology. I know that both have nothing to do with each
other, but I like both of them. What I want to ask is, do you think
that I should find a job that combines both medical/biology and
technology/electronics like being a bio technician so I can save me
some time and money and not regretting taking a career in the long run
that I'm not going to love?
Thanks.
Visit My Website:
http://www.geocities.com/freedomwarrior5000
.

User: "Editor of EvilBible.com"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	07 Oct 2003 02:16:08 PM

"Roshard Davis" <superillusion666@webtv.net> wrote in message
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"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message

news:<blsacn$hp3$1@bob.news.rcn.net>...

[Note: I didn't see the original post so I am responding down the thread

little bit.]

superillusion666@webtv.net (Roshard Davis) wrote in message
news:<4caa8c9f.0310031215.321e7a4f@posting.google.com>...

Greetings everyone. Are there any atheists in here (or any other
discussion group that I just crossposted to) that have or will

have a

degree in any scientific field? Are there any atheists in here

that

are biologists, physicists, astronomers, doctors, physicians,
chemists, etc.? If you have a degree in it, how long have you

been in

that line of work?

I plan on getting a degree in Nursing and Pharmacology (my major

goal)

and working on a degree in electronics (as a second career goal if
that makes sense to some of you).

Thanks.

Visit My Website:
http://www.geocities.com/freedomwarrior5000

I have a Masters in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology and currently

work at

a medical school doing laboratory research (about 15 years experience).

As for your career goals you need to decide which direction you want to

go.

There is nothing wrong with learning electronics but I don't think it

will

be of much use in a career as a nurse. If you want to become a

pharmacist,

you need to pursue this path until you get licensed. If you want to do
laboratory research you need a lot of hard science classes and less

clinical

courses such as nursing.

Let me go in to some details:

Electronics: I don't know too much about this career field so you might
want to ask someone else how much education you need and how much they

get

paid.

Nursing: The pay is not very good and often the hours suck and you may

get

very little respect from the doctors at work, especially at the lower

levels

of nursing. The higher nursing degrees or a Physician's Assistant

degree

pay a lot more and you get more interesting work. One good thing is

that

there is usually plenty of jobs where ever you may live.

Pharmacist: Good pay starting at about $60 - 80K/yr, and you can find

work

any where in the country. It is not as hard as becoming a doctor and it

not as demanding on your time. You can also work part time if you want

free time or overtime if you want more money.

If you were trying to get into clinical research with a Bachelor's

degree

you would most likely be hired as a nurse or a research nurse and would

not

get paid much more than a regular nurse. A major disadvantage is that

most

of these jobs are in major cities. If you wanted to live in the country

you

would have a major commute or might need to find another career.

If you were interested in a career in laboratory medical research, it

helps

to have a graduate degree. You can get by with a Bachelor's degree but

may take a while to get some experience and better pay. Pay starts

pretty

low but at least it gets bigger with more experience. Usually nursing

and

pharmacist jobs don't increase pay as much with an increase in

experience.

Also most of the good jobs are in major cities.

Perhaps the most important thing to do is decide what kind of job you

and can see yourself doing for a long time. If the thought of standing
behind a drug store pharmacy counter filling prescriptions and answering
questions for the next 40 years irritates you then perhaps you shouldn't
pursue the pharmacist career.

I would never want to discourage you from learning about anything you want
to. I have an strong interest in electronics and computers, but I have only
studied them informally. This knowledge has come in handy in my job doing
laboratory medical research. Perhaps I need to stress the differences
between clinical medical research and laboratory medical research. They
probably both pay a similar wage for a similar education and experience.
Clinical research usually requires a nursing degree or a Physician
Assistant. That is because you would be dealing with patients. Clinical
research is usually the last step in the medical research process. You
would most likely be testing different doses of drugs on patients, or
evaluating the response of patients. There are electronic devices that also
need to be tested clinically, but they are already past the design stage and
I don't think that an electronics education would be of much advantage.
On the other hand, laboratory medical research involves research at a much
earlier stage in the process. A basic science degree (biochemistry,
biology, chemistry etc.) is more likely to be desired than a clinical degree
like nursing. An electronics background is definitely a plus because of two
things. 1) There are always electronic instruments that break down and need
to be fixed and 2) sometimes special electronic circuits need to be rigged
up to do an experiment. I would estimate that 10% of labs need a person to
do #2 but that 95% need someone for #1. Labs can usually buy a yearly
service agreement from the instrument manufacturers but they are quite
expensive. The service agreements for our lab would have added up to about
$40,000 a year. I do most of the repairs on our equipment and we only spend
about five to ten thousand on parts and hourly service calls. This alone is
a good reason to know electronics. However, don't expect to be compensated
for it.
Once again let me stress the importance of finding out what you *like* to
do. Laboratory research is good for people who want to know how things
work. If you like to take things apart to see how they work then you would
be good at laboratory research. Some people I have worked with don't have
that desire and are better suited and much more happy doing routine
repetitive assays. Also remember that laboratory research may not be good
for people who like to socialize a lot. Usually you will be working with a
small group of people. If you don't think you could survive the day without
talking to 10 different people then maybe clinical research may be better
for you.
Also take into account of the job opportunities where you live or want to
live. If you live in a big electronics area with little medical research
then maybe you should consider electronics as a primary goal. Also remember
that most medical research is done in major city centers. A pharmacy degree
requires a little more education but a pharmacist gets paid very well right
from the start and can get work anywhere in the country. Unfortunately, I
don't see getting a lot of job satisfaction out of it. That may be why it
pays more.
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User: "Harry Leopold"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	07 Oct 2003 12:59:06 PM

On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 2:37:16 -0500, Roshard Davis wrote
(in message <4caa8c9f.0310062337.3caf296f@posting.google.com>):
snip

Hey Editor of Evil Bible. Let me ask your opinion on something then. I'm
interested in both the medical field/biology and electronics/technology. I
know that both have nothing to do with each other, but I like both of them.
What I want to ask is, do you think that I should find a job that combines
both medical/biology and technology/electronics like being a bio technician
so I can save me some time and money and not regretting taking a career in
the long run that I'm not going to love?

I would think that knowing both subjects, medicine and electronics, could be
pretty useful, especially for a person who then works to design the modern
medical technology that is so much in use today. (That stuff does not grow on
trees, you know.) Medical-technology is quite the growing field.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
"And Thor is one that you should definitely never argue with when it is
raining and you are wearing copper underwear." - walksalone
.

User: "Orhan Orgun"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	07 Oct 2003 06:15:40 PM

(Roshard Davis) wrote in message news:<4caa8c9f.0310031215.321e7a4f@posting.google.com>...

BSc in Mechanical Engineering, 1988
MS in Mech. Eng., 1991,
MA in Linguistics, 1993
PhD in Linguistics, 1996
Lecturer in Linguistics for a couple years, then Assistant Prof of
linguistics since 1998, up for tenure right now.

I plan on getting a degree in Nursing and Pharmacology (my major goal)
and working on a degree in electronics (as a second career goal if
that makes sense to some of you).

Having switched from mechanical engineering to linguistics, I tend to
find most all career switches sensible. I admit, though, that mine was
not pre-planned (but then again, I had my third choice, architecture,
lined up and ready, but it got trumped by a job offer in linguistics
that was too good to pass up).

Thanks.

Visit My Website:
http://www.geocities.com/freedomwarrior5000

User: "Eric Pepke"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	04 Oct 2003 10:49:58 AM

(Roshard Davis) wrote in message news:<4caa8c9f.0310031215.321e7a4f@posting.google.com>...

I think that a lot of people here have degrees in scientific fields.
I worked as a research scientist for 13 years. Then I went to industry,
and now to consulting. And, I might add, poverty.

I plan on getting a degree in Nursing and Pharmacology (my major goal)
and working on a degree in electronics (as a second career goal if
that makes sense to some of you).

Be wary of Nursing. It's a quick and easy way to get a "professional"
degree, but it has a culture that sucks people in. Unless your major
life goal is fucking a lot of doctors and cops. Pharmacology is fine.
.

User: "Sverker Johansson"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	06 Oct 2003 07:50:17 AM

(Roshard Davis) wrote in message news:<4caa8c9f.0310031215.321e7a4f@posting.google.com>...

PhD Physics 1990 http://hem.hj.se/~josv/thesis.htm
(+ miscellaneous other degrees:
* MSc Engineering Physics 1982
* BSc Economics 1984
* MA Linguistics 2002
)
Associate professor of physics, Univ of J�nk�ping, Sweden, since 1992.

I plan on getting a degree in Nursing and Pharmacology (my major goal)
and working on a degree in electronics (as a second career goal if
that makes sense to some of you).

Makes a lot of sense if you're going for a career in medical technology.
That field could use people who know both nursing and engineering.
Best regards,
Sverker Johansson
-----------------------------
"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy,
education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would
indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of
punishment and hope of reward after death." - Albert Einstein
------------------------------
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User: "Orhan Orgun"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	07 Oct 2003 06:17:00 PM

(Sverker Johansson) wrote in message news:<4c9281ba.0310060450.3626ec36@posting.google.com>...

superillusion666@webtv.net (Roshard Davis) wrote in message news:<4caa8c9f.0310031215.321e7a4f@posting.google.com>...

PhD Physics 1990 http://hem.hj.se/~josv/thesis.htm

(+ miscellaneous other degrees:
* MSc Engineering Physics 1982
* BSc Economics 1984
* MA Linguistics 2002
)

Aha, another linguist. Does putting diachronic explanations directly
in a synchronic grammar suck or what?
.

User: "Sverker Johansson"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	08 Oct 2003 03:13:19 AM

(Orhan Orgun) wrote in message news:<10376a31.0310071517.7830e9e0@posting.google.com>...

lsj@hlk.hj.se (Sverker Johansson) wrote in message news:<4c9281ba.0310060450.3626ec36@posting.google.com>...

superillusion666@webtv.net (Roshard Davis) wrote in message news:<4caa8c9f.0310031215.321e7a4f@posting.google.com>...

PhD Physics 1990 http://hem.hj.se/~josv/thesis.htm

(+ miscellaneous other degrees:
* MSc Engineering Physics 1982
* BSc Economics 1984
* MA Linguistics 2002
)

Aha, another linguist.

Sort of. Linguistics is fun, but in my heart I'm still
a physicist.

Does putting diachronic explanations directly
in a synchronic grammar suck or what?

Any viable theory of grammar must be able to accommodate
diachronic change.
Best regards
Sverker Johansson
.

User: "Orhan Orgun"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	08 Oct 2003 11:15:48 AM

(Sverker Johansson) wrote in message news:<4c9281ba.0310080013.2729d9dd@posting.google.com>...

orhanorgun@sbcglobal.net (Orhan Orgun) wrote in message news:<10376a31.0310071517.7830e9e0@posting.google.com>...

(Sverker Johansson) wrote in message news:<4c9281ba.0310060450.3626ec36@posting.google.com>...

PhD Physics 1990 http://hem.hj.se/~josv/thesis.htm

(+ miscellaneous other degrees:
* MSc Engineering Physics 1982
* BSc Economics 1984
* MA Linguistics 2002
)

Aha, another linguist.

Sort of. Linguistics is fun, but in my heart I'm still
a physicist.

Oh well, you are forgiven. I, however, am not a mechanical engineer at
heart (that is what I was before being reborn).

Does putting diachronic explanations directly
in a synchronic grammar suck or what?

Any viable theory of grammar must be able to accommodate
diachronic change.

Sure thing. But that doesn't really support the position (in the SPE,
e.g., and teken to an extreme by Sandy Shane) that the native speaker
mentally goes through the same steps in their mind before producing
speech that the language went through diachronically, does it? Or
even, less audaciously, the Chafe-ian quip that "the native speaker is
an internal reconstructor."
But you don't need to let me suck you into a discussion of one of my
pet peeves, not really!
Actually, now that I've said this, I realized that my real pet peeve
nowadays is putting phonetic explanation into phonology, or, the way I
see it, putting physiology, aerodynamics, etc., into the native
speaker's mind.
But again, don't let me use you as a Marko Pasha or something...
.

User: "Walking on Glass"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	04 Oct 2003 07:30:08 PM

And it came to pass that

(Roshard Davis) did
write in alt.atheism, news:4caa8c9f.0310031215.321e7a4f@posting.google.com:

BSc in Physics, PhD in Physical Chemistry. I'm now a software
developer/consultant.

I plan on getting a degree in Nursing and Pharmacology (my major goal)
and working on a degree in electronics (as a second career goal if
that makes sense to some of you).

Good luck with your career. Keep up the hard work!
--
Walking on Glass (remove NOSPAM to email me)
AA #2053 Zymurgist #12
"If you want to save your child from polio, you can pray or
you can inoculate...Try science"
Carl Sagan - "The Demon-Haunted World"
.

User: "Straha"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	04 Oct 2003 01:35:06 AM

B.S. in Math, B.S. in Physics, Ph.D. in Atmospheric Science in 1998
I have been atheist since I started college in 1990.
Kate
"Roshard Davis" <superillusion666@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:4caa8c9f.0310031215.321e7a4f@posting.google.com...

Greetings everyone. Are there any atheists in here (or any other
discussion group that I just crossposted to) that have or will have a
degree in any scientific field? Are there any atheists in here that
are biologists, physicists, astronomers, doctors, physicians,
chemists, etc.? If you have a degree in it, how long have you been in
that line of work?

I plan on getting a degree in Nursing and Pharmacology (my major goal)
and working on a degree in electronics (as a second career goal if
that makes sense to some of you).

Thanks.

Visit My Website:
http://www.geocities.com/freedomwarrior5000

User: "Ed. Stoebenau"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	08 Oct 2003 11:52:20 PM

On 3 Oct 2003 13:15:08 -0700,

(Roshard
Davis) wrote:

Me, I have a BS and MS in chemistry (Va Tech 1998 and U Chicago
2000(?) respectively) and am presently working on my PhD here at
U of C and am in my final year, specializing in organometallic
chemistry.
--
Ed. Stoebenau
a #143
.

User: "stoney"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	04 Oct 2003 10:25:48 PM

On 3 Oct 2003 13:15:08 -0700,

(Roshard
Davis), Message ID: <4caa8c9f.0310031215.321e7a4f@posting.google.com>
wrote in alt.atheism;

Associate of Science degree through the University of Maryland in
Avionics Systems Technology. I had 65 or 67 credit hours on the
technical side.
I worked black boxes and jets in the USAF for several years until I was
retired in 1991. It was playtime. The wierder and wackier the
problem(s) the more fun I had.
Prior to that I was a shipboard electrician in Uncle Sam's Canoe Club.
Then for a few years I did custom electrical work building induction
heating/forging equip. 2,000 amp SCR's..... :)

Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
.

User: "Levy Oates"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	04 Oct 2003 02:32:53 AM

On 3 Oct 2003 13:15:08 -0700,

(Roshard Davis) wrote:

Greetings everyone. Are there any atheists in here (or any other
discussion group that I just crossposted to) that have or will have a
degree in any scientific field? Are there any atheists in here that
are biologists, physicists, astronomers, doctors, physicians,
chemists, etc.? If you have a degree in it, how long have you been in
that line of work?

I plan on getting a degree in Nursing and Pharmacology (my major goal)
and working on a degree in electronics (as a second career goal if
that makes sense to some of you).

Thanks.

Visit My Website:
http://www.geocities.com/freedomwarrior5000

B.Sc, 1st class, Maths and Physics.
Worked for a short time at the Royal Greenwich Observatory, Herstmonceux (before
they turned it into a conference centre) and Ministry of Agriculture Fisheries
and Food.
Unfortunately became a bloody computer programmer, which I've regretted ever
since. It is so deadly, DEADLY, DULL and mind numbingly BORING.
p.s. Also spent three years training to be a Roman Catholic priest, but I grew
out of that and have been an atheist ever since.
---------
Archdeacom Levy Oates
On behalf of the Prophet Eric Peabody (pbuh)
Basingstoke, England
http://www.angelfire.com/alt/bumblism/
.

User: "Jerry Sturdivant"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	04 Oct 2003 04:56:42 PM

In America, atheists -- roughly 10% of the general population -- are
concentrated in the portion having higher levels of education (Washington
Post). I like to think there is a reason for that.
Jerry Sturdivant
.

User: "stoney"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	06 Oct 2003 09:48:06 AM

On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:56:42 -0700, "Jerry Sturdivant" <sturdy@lvcm.com>,
Message ID: <7sHfb.5528$hp5.2053@fed1read04> wrote in alt.atheism;

In America, atheists -- roughly 10% of the general population -- are
concentrated in the portion having higher levels of education (Washington
Post). I like to think there is a reason for that.

That eliminates inside the D.C. beltway.

Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
.

User: "RHertz"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	06 Oct 2003 10:33:32 AM

"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:a403ovcr3um6l62hhvjb7o1e5c2ar7fb32@4ax.com...

On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:56:42 -0700, "Jerry Sturdivant" <sturdy@lvcm.com>,
Message ID: <7sHfb.5528$hp5.2053@fed1read04> wrote in alt.atheism;

In America, atheists -- roughly 10% of the general population -- are
concentrated in the portion having higher levels of education (Washington
Post). I like to think there is a reason for that.

That eliminates inside the D.C. beltway.

Right now, I am inside the D.C. beltway, so, yes, there are atheists here.
As for inside the walls of the White House and Capitol Building, that's
another matter. They are still dens of unrestricted theism.
Although I have worked for the government in the past, including the
Pentagon and "Intelligence" community, I am presently an airline pilot.
Thus, I am only physically "inside the beltway", not professionally.
Therefore, that might not count.
--
Evolution: Making life better for over 4 billion years.
========================================
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User: "stoney"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	06 Oct 2003 06:07:51 PM

On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 11:33:32 -0400, "RHertz" <RHertz314@cox.rr.com>,
Message ID: <OWfgb.9109$N94.8077@lakeread02> wrote in alt.atheism;

"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:a403ovcr3um6l62hhvjb7o1e5c2ar7fb32@4ax.com...

On Sat, 4 Oct 2003 14:56:42 -0700, "Jerry Sturdivant" <sturdy@lvcm.com>,
Message ID: <7sHfb.5528$hp5.2053@fed1read04> wrote in alt.atheism;

In America, atheists -- roughly 10% of the general population -- are
concentrated in the portion having higher levels of education (Washington
Post). I like to think there is a reason for that.

That eliminates inside the D.C. beltway.

Hmmm.......That eliminates inside the D.C. beltway except for isolated
pockets. How's that?

Although I have worked for the government in the past, including the
Pentagon and "Intelligence" community, I am presently an airline pilot.
Thus, I am only physically "inside the beltway", not professionally.
Therefore, that might not count.

Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
.

User: "Mushinronsha"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	06 Oct 2003 06:54:40 PM

RHertz wrote:
(snip)

Although I have worked for the government in the past, including the
Pentagon and "Intelligence" community, I am presently an airline pilot.

Hey, I saw your movie! I thought Tom Hanks did a good job playing opposite of
your part played by Leonardo! (You are that guy, aren't you?)
Mushy
.

User: "jwk"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	06 Oct 2003 07:40:46 AM

Levy Oates <levy_oates@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<cdtsnvsmgmkcjbddkf9c4f1evu651hthei@4ax.com>...

On 3 Oct 2003 13:15:08 -0700,

(Roshard Davis) wrote:

Greetings everyone. Are there any atheists in here (or any other
discussion group that I just crossposted to) that have or will have a
degree in any scientific field? Are there any atheists in here that
are biologists, physicists, astronomers, doctors, physicians,
chemists, etc.? If you have a degree in it, how long have you been in
that line of work?

I plan on getting a degree in Nursing and Pharmacology (my major goal)
and working on a degree in electronics (as a second career goal if
that makes sense to some of you).

Thanks.

Visit My Website:
http://www.geocities.com/freedomwarrior5000

HEY!
jwk
.

User: "MarkA"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	04 Oct 2003 11:45:05 AM

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 13:15:08 +0000, Roshard Davis wrote:

Greetings everyone. Are there any atheists in here (or any other
discussion group that I just crossposted to) that have or will have a
degree in any scientific field? Are there any atheists in here that are
biologists, physicists, astronomers, doctors, physicians, chemists, etc.?
If you have a degree in it, how long have you been in that line of work?

I plan on getting a degree in Nursing and Pharmacology (my major goal) and
working on a degree in electronics (as a second career goal if that makes
sense to some of you).

Thanks.

Visit My Website:
http://www.geocities.com/freedomwarrior5000

I'm an M.D. I got a BS in Biology, and worked in a biology research lab
for a year. I got my M.D. in 1981, finished various residency and
post-grad training programs to become a plastic surgeon in 1991. As near
as I can tell, I have been an atheist my entire life. They sent me to
church when I was a little kid. When I was about 14 or so, my parents
said that if I didn't want to go to church anymore, I didn't have to. I
said "great!", and never went back. The Graham crackers were good, but I
never believed all that walking-on-water stuff.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
.

User: "Richard"
Title: Re: Atheists and Scientists.	03 Oct 2003 10:55:54 PM

Roshard Davis wrote:

I have BS, MS and Ph.D. degrees in physics. I received
my Ph.D. in 1991. Since then, I held research positions at
several different universities before becoming a professor of
electrical engineering. My area of expertise is nanoelectronics.
I've been an atheist since my early teens.
Richard
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