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"duke" |
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12 Dec 2005 05:40:45 AM |
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Atheists are bad for America............... |
..............because there are no atheist hospitals. And there are no atheist
help groups for katrina victims.
Atheists are not good for anything to help others other than to help themselves.
Atheists are very selfish people.
Hello, bilbo.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Conspiracy of Doves" |
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12 Dec 2005 10:02:24 AM |
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Atheists who volunteer don't feel any particular need to advertize the
fact that they are atheists, they just want to help people. Unlike many
christian groups who tell anyone and everyone that they are christians
in a seeming attempt to prove that christianity=morality.
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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12 Dec 2005 10:07:45 AM |
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In article <u8oqp1548df85418f51vjeb62prblk4lg0@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
.............because there are no atheist hospitals. And there are no atheist
help groups for katrina victims.
Atheists are not good for anything to help others other than to help
themselves.
Atheists are very selfish people.
***** you. This atheist gave $3,000 to the American red Cross -- a
secular organization -- for Katrina. What did you give?
-chib
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Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middla Aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists are bad for America............... |
13 Dec 2005 09:04:22 AM |
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In <121220050807455315%chibiabos@nospam.com>, chibiabos
<chibiabos@nospam.com> wrote:
In article <u8oqp1548df85418f51vjeb62prblk4lg0@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
.............because there are no atheist hospitals. And there are no
atheist help groups for katrina victims.
Atheists are not good for anything to help others other than to help
themselves.
Atheists are very selfish people.
***** you. This atheist gave $3,000 to the American red Cross -- a secular
organization -- for Katrina. What did you give?
He sat around bitching about the governor! Doesn't that count! And he
posted to Usenet! Come on, credit where it's due!
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Mark K. Bilbo
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"We need everything you've got"
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R2726554C
Forgotten Already
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H1233272C
Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O21E51C1C
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists are bad for America............... |
12 Dec 2005 10:46:30 AM |
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:07:45 -0800, chibiabos <chibiabos@nospam.com>
wrote:
In article <u8oqp1548df85418f51vjeb62prblk4lg0@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
.............because there are no atheist hospitals. And there are no atheist
help groups for katrina victims.
Atheists are not good for anything to help others other than to help
themselves.
Atheists are very selfish people.
***** you. This atheist gave $3,000 to the American red Cross -- a
secular organization -- for Katrina. What did you give?
Members of New York Atheists gave movey via NYA to a New Orleans
atheist organisation. Which pobably wasn't even tax deductible. But we
did it.
One of the reasons we did it that way was beacuse the FEMA web site
had suggested donations to Pat Robertson's organisation Operation
Blessing. Which was taking faith based charity to a new low.
But having contributed well for the tsunami (via Doctors Without
Borders), Katrina victims and the Kashmir/Pakistan earthquake (via the
International Red Cross) I think most of us had run out of money to
donate by the end of the year.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists are bad for America............... |
13 Dec 2005 09:07:58 AM |
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In <e0arp1tu3s5pndv1r77700vf66n8q98v3a@4ax.com>, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:07:45 -0800, chibiabos <chibiabos@nospam.com>
wrote:
In article <u8oqp1548df85418f51vjeb62prblk4lg0@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
.............because there are no atheist hospitals. And there are no
atheist help groups for katrina victims.
Atheists are not good for anything to help others other than to help
themselves.
Atheists are very selfish people.
***** you. This atheist gave $3,000 to the American red Cross -- a secular
organization -- for Katrina. What did you give?
Members of New York Atheists gave movey via NYA to a New Orleans atheist
organisation.
Been here two years or so and had no idea there even *was an atheist
organization around...
(I need to get out more)
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Mark K. Bilbo
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"We need everything you've got"
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R2726554C
Forgotten Already
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H1233272C
Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O21E51C1C
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists are bad for America............... |
12 Dec 2005 05:55:25 PM |
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:46:30 -0500, Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:07:45 -0800, chibiabos <chibiabos@nospam.com>
wrote:
In article <u8oqp1548df85418f51vjeb62prblk4lg0@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
.............because there are no atheist hospitals. And there are no atheist
help groups for katrina victims.
Atheists are not good for anything to help others other than to help
themselves.
Atheists are very selfish people.
***** you. This atheist gave $3,000 to the American red Cross -- a
secular organization -- for Katrina. What did you give?
Members of New York Atheists gave movey via NYA to a New Orleans
atheist organisation. Which pobably wasn't even tax deductible. But we
did it.
What did they do with it? Why didn't you give it to those that needed it, which
didn't include the local atheists.
One of the reasons we did it that way was beacuse the FEMA web site
had suggested donations to Pat Robertson's organisation Operation
Blessing. Which was taking faith based charity to a new low.
I shoulda known.
But having contributed well for the tsunami (via Doctors Without
Borders), Katrina victims and the Kashmir/Pakistan earthquake (via the
International Red Cross) I think most of us had run out of money to
donate by the end of the year.
Is that your excuse?
Thanks to a man/atheist that would give $3000 to help. But where were the
organizations?
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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13 Dec 2005 03:59:19 AM |
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:55:25 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:46:30 -0500, Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net>
wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:07:45 -0800, chibiabos <chibiabos@nospam.com>
wrote:
In article <u8oqp1548df85418f51vjeb62prblk4lg0@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
.............because there are no atheist hospitals. And there are no atheist
help groups for katrina victims.
Atheists are not good for anything to help others other than to help
themselves.
Atheists are very selfish people.
***** you. This atheist gave $3,000 to the American red Cross -- a
secular organization -- for Katrina. What did you give?
Members of New York Atheists gave movey via NYA to a New Orleans
atheist organisation. Which pobably wasn't even tax deductible. But we
did it.
What did they do with it? Why didn't you give it to those that needed it, which
didn't include the local atheists.
One of the reasons we did it that way was beacuse the FEMA web site
had suggested donations to Pat Robertson's organisation Operation
Blessing. Which was taking faith based charity to a new low.
I shoulda known.
But having contributed well for the tsunami (via Doctors Without
Borders), Katrina victims and the Kashmir/Pakistan earthquake (via the
International Red Cross) I think most of us had run out of money to
donate by the end of the year.
Is that your excuse?
Thanks to a man/atheist that would give $3000 to help. But where were the
organizations?
Every single atheist organisation make contributions to disasters.
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists are bad for America............... |
12 Dec 2005 05:53:14 PM |
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:07:45 -0800, chibiabos <chibiabos@nospam.com> wrote:
In article <u8oqp1548df85418f51vjeb62prblk4lg0@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
.............because there are no atheist hospitals. And there are no atheist
help groups for katrina victims.
Atheists are not good for anything to help others other than to help
themselves.
Atheists are very selfish people.
***** you. This atheist gave $3,000 to the American red Cross -- a
secular organization -- for Katrina. What did you give?
Not one atheist organization came forward to help the Katrina victims.
Thank you for your individual concern and action. The victims thank you.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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13 Dec 2005 12:27:48 PM |
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In article <n93sp1tavli9f63g9cljf1djh93a9llegt@4ax.com> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:07:45 -0800, chibiabos <chibiabos@nospam.com> wrote:
In article <u8oqp1548df85418f51vjeb62prblk4lg0@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
.............because there are no atheist hospitals. And there are no atheist
help groups for katrina victims.
Atheists are not good for anything to help others other than to help
themselves.
Atheists are very selfish people.
***** you. This atheist gave $3,000 to the American red Cross -- a
secular organization -- for Katrina. What did you give?
Not one atheist organization came forward to help the Katrina victims.
Are you intentionally lying here, or are you merely uninformed?
SHARE, the Secular Humanist Aid and Relief Effort, founded
around 15 years ago by Paul Kurtz, has to date raised
more than $50,000 for Katrina relief. This money
is then given to AmeriCares.
Here's your opportunity to help further:
https://secure.ga3.org/05/donate_to_help_katrina_victims
Do write back and tell us how much you donated, hear?
-- cary
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists are bad for America............... |
14 Dec 2005 05:45:11 PM |
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:27:48 +0000 (UTC), (Cary
Kittrell) wrote:
Not one atheist organization came forward to help the Katrina victims.
Are you intentionally lying here, or are you merely uninformed?
Nope, it's been 3 1/2 months since Katrina, and I still can't find one atheist
organization that helped out.
Atheist organizations are bad for America.
SHARE, the Secular Humanist Aid and Relief Effort, founded
around 15 years ago by Paul Kurtz, has to date raised
more than $50,000 for Katrina relief. This money
is then given to AmeriCares.
Why didn't they come forward and show themselves off? Could it be it's all
false?
Just asking, of course?
Beside, secular and atheist are not the same thing. So it still looks like
atheist organizations are bad for America.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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14 Dec 2005 06:20:20 PM |
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In article <a4b1q1dfpb8bbnjehqoin4rgnr4pi902dv@4ax.com> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:27:48 +0000 (UTC), (Cary
Kittrell) wrote:
Not one atheist organization came forward to help the Katrina victims.
Are you intentionally lying here, or are you merely uninformed?
Nope, it's been 3 1/2 months since Katrina, and I still can't find one atheist
organization that helped out.
Atheist organizations are bad for America.
SHARE, the Secular Humanist Aid and Relief Effort, founded
around 15 years ago by Paul Kurtz, has to date raised
more than $50,000 for Katrina relief. This money
is then given to AmeriCares.
Why didn't they come forward and show themselves off?
"Why didn't they come forward and show themselves off?" You think
they raised this money by holding up convenince marts?
Just because Duke has never heard of them doesn't mean that they're
obscure. A statement which could be made about a range of phenomena.
Could it be it's all false?
Could it be that, having been shown wrong, you're now backing and filling
just as fast as you can?
Beside, secular and atheist are not the same thing.
Could it be that, having been shown wrong, you're now backing and filling
just as fast as you can?
So it still looks like atheist organizations are bad for America.
Right. Raising money for the needy is bad for America.
Downright unchristian, now that you point it out.
This time, it was ignorance. Do it again, and it'll be lying.
-- cary
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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14 Dec 2005 06:45:21 PM |
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Cary Kittrell wrote:
In article <a4b1q1dfpb8bbnjehqoin4rgnr4pi902dv@4ax.com> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:27:48 +0000 (UTC), (Cary
Kittrell) wrote:
Not one atheist organization came forward to help the Katrina victims.
Are you intentionally lying here, or are you merely uninformed?
Nope, it's been 3 1/2 months since Katrina, and I still can't find one atheist
organization that helped out.
Atheist organizations are bad for America.
SHARE, the Secular Humanist Aid and Relief Effort, founded
around 15 years ago by Paul Kurtz, has to date raised
more than $50,000 for Katrina relief. This money
is then given to AmeriCares.
Why didn't they come forward and show themselves off?
"Why didn't they come forward and show themselves off?" You think
they raised this money by holding up convenince marts?
Just because Duke has never heard of them doesn't mean that they're
obscure. A statement which could be made about a range of phenomena.
Could it be it's all false?
Could it be that, having been shown wrong, you're now backing and filling
just as fast as you can?
Beside, secular and atheist are not the same thing.
Could it be that, having been shown wrong, you're now backing and filling
just as fast as you can?
So it still looks like atheist organizations are bad for America.
Right. Raising money for the needy is bad for America.
Downright unchristian, now that you point it out.
This time, it was ignorance. Do it again, and it'll be lying.
-- cary
He went through this months ago on this newsgroup. He is a lying sack
of *****.
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| User: "duke" |
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15 Dec 2005 06:09:56 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:20:20 +0000 (UTC), (Cary
Kittrell) wrote:
Why didn't they come forward and show themselves off?
"Why didn't they come forward and show themselves off?" You think
they raised this money by holding up convenince marts?
With atheists, who knows?
Just because Duke has never heard of them doesn't mean that they're
obscure. A statement which could be made about a range of phenomena.
Atheists are bad for American because there are no atheist organizations that
help others.
Could it be it's all false?
Could it be that, having been shown wrong, you're now backing and filling
just as fast as you can?
Nope.
Beside, secular and atheist are not the same thing.
Could it be that, having been shown wrong, you're now backing and filling
just as fast as you can?
Not a chance - religious, secular, atheist.
So it still looks like atheist organizations are bad for America.
Right. Raising money for the needy is bad for America.
Downright unchristian, now that you point it out.
No atheist organization did that. At least none that I could find.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Bear" |
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15 Dec 2005 06:09:07 PM |
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"duke" wrote
: Atheists are bad for American because there are no atheist organizations
that
: help others.
LIAR!!!
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Bear
What I am is what I am. Are you what you are or what? -Edie Brickell
It is always better to have no ideas than false ones; to believe nothing,
than to believe what is wrong. -Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "duke" |
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16 Dec 2005 06:03:41 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:09:07 -0500, "Bear" <bigbear1wh@nativeweb.net> wrote:
"duke" wrote
: Atheists are bad for American because there are no atheist organizations
that
: help others.
LIAR!!!
Welcome to the truth.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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15 Dec 2005 06:20:02 PM |
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In article <ja14q1h059bub72hgi07vmp6vole3p2pn1@4ax.com> duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:20:20 +0000 (UTC), (Cary
Kittrell) wrote:
Why didn't they come forward and show themselves off?
"Why didn't they come forward and show themselves off?" You think
they raised this money by holding up convenince marts?
With atheists, who knows?
Just because Duke has never heard of them doesn't mean that they're
obscure. A statement which could be made about a range of phenomena.
Atheists are bad for American because there are no atheist organizations that
help others.
Could it be it's all false?
Could it be that, having been shown wrong, you're now backing and filling
just as fast as you can?
Nope.
Beside, secular and atheist are not the same thing.
Could it be that, having been shown wrong, you're now backing and filling
just as fast as you can?
Not a chance - religious, secular, atheist.
So it still looks like atheist organizations are bad for America.
Right. Raising money for the needy is bad for America.
Downright unchristian, now that you point it out.
No atheist organization did that. At least none that I could find.
Stop it. You've gone beyond embarrassing yourself, now you've
got me feeling embarrassed on your behalf.
-- cary
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| User: "duke" |
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16 Dec 2005 06:05:24 PM |
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On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:20:02 +0000 (UTC), (Cary
Kittrell) wrote:
No atheist organization did that. At least none that I could find.
Stop it. You've gone beyond embarrassing yourself, now you've
got me feeling embarrassed on your behalf.
-- cary
Atheists are the ones that should be embarrassed. I'm not the least worried
about what I see.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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16 Dec 2005 05:20:26 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:20:20 -0600, Cary Kittrell wrote
(in article <dnqcs4$5v$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>):
In article <a4b1q1dfpb8bbnjehqoin4rgnr4pi902dv@4ax.com> duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> writes:
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:27:48 +0000 (UTC), (Cary
Kittrell) wrote:
Not one atheist organization came forward to help the Katrina victims.
Are you intentionally lying here, or are you merely uninformed?
Nope, it's been 3 1/2 months since Katrina, and I still can't find one
atheist
organization that helped out.
Atheist organizations are bad for America.
SHARE, the Secular Humanist Aid and Relief Effort, founded
around 15 years ago by Paul Kurtz, has to date raised
more than $50,000 for Katrina relief. This money
is then given to AmeriCares.
Why didn't they come forward and show themselves off?
"Why didn't they come forward and show themselves off?" You think
they raised this money by holding up convenince marts?
Just because Duke has never heard of them doesn't mean that they're
obscure. A statement which could be made about a range of phenomena.
Could it be it's all false?
Could it be that, having been shown wrong, you're now backing and filling
just as fast as you can?
Beside, secular and atheist are not the same thing.
Could it be that, having been shown wrong, you're now backing and filling
just as fast as you can?
So it still looks like atheist organizations are bad for America.
Right. Raising money for the needy is bad for America.
Downright unchristian, now that you point it out.
This time, it was ignorance. Do it again, and it'll be lying.
He was lying and knows it, at least 3 months ago I pointed out that there
most certainly was an atheist organization, alt.atheism, that has contributed
to Katrina relief, quite a number of us sent in money to help.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
"I've heard myself say a lot of vocal things, but I've never heard myself
think." - Duke32
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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13 Dec 2005 01:47:31 PM |
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In article <n93sp1tavli9f63g9cljf1djh93a9llegt@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:07:45 -0800, chibiabos <chibiabos@nospam.com> wrote:
In article <u8oqp1548df85418f51vjeb62prblk4lg0@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
.............because there are no atheist hospitals. And there are no
atheist
help groups for katrina victims.
Atheists are not good for anything to help others other than to help
themselves.
Atheists are very selfish people.
***** you. This atheist gave $3,000 to the American red Cross -- a
secular organization -- for Katrina. What did you give?
Not one atheist organization came forward to help the Katrina victims.
Thank you for your individual concern and action. The victims thank you.
The ARC is a secular organization, moron.
-chib
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Member of SMASH
Sarcastic Middla Aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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14 Dec 2005 05:45:50 PM |
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:47:31 -0800, chibiabos <chibiabos@nospam.com> wrote:
In article <n93sp1tavli9f63g9cljf1djh93a9llegt@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:07:45 -0800, chibiabos <chibiabos@nospam.com> wrote:
In article <u8oqp1548df85418f51vjeb62prblk4lg0@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
.............because there are no atheist hospitals. And there are no
atheist
help groups for katrina victims.
Atheists are not good for anything to help others other than to help
themselves.
Atheists are very selfish people.
***** you. This atheist gave $3,000 to the American red Cross -- a
secular organization -- for Katrina. What did you give?
Not one atheist organization came forward to help the Katrina victims.
Thank you for your individual concern and action. The victims thank you.
The ARC is a secular organization, moron.
That's right, and not atheist.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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13 Dec 2005 03:58:28 AM |
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:53:14 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:07:45 -0800, chibiabos <chibiabos@nospam.com> wrote:
In article <u8oqp1548df85418f51vjeb62prblk4lg0@4ax.com>, duke
<duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
.............because there are no atheist hospitals. And there are no atheist
help groups for katrina victims.
Atheists are not good for anything to help others other than to help
themselves.
Atheists are very selfish people.
***** you. This atheist gave $3,000 to the American red Cross -- a
secular organization -- for Katrina. What did you give?
Not one atheist organization came forward to help the Katrina victims.
Thank you for your individual concern and action. The victims thank you.
No will you cease trying to imply by the bit of sophistry above about
non existent so called "Atheist organisations"
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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12 Dec 2005 10:03:27 AM |
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:40:45 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
.............because there are no atheist hospitals. And there are no atheist
help groups for katrina victims.
Atheists are not good for anything to help others other than to help themselves.
Atheists are very selfish people.
This is an example of Duke's 'Christmas Spirit'. You can bet in a week
or so he will be wishing us a "Hapy Christmas" and exhibiting good
will to all men. Then, the Christian cynical season over again, he
will get back to normal and start denigrating and lying about us once
again simply because we do not share is irrational beliefs.
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
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| Title: Re: Atheists are bad for America............... |
12 Dec 2005 05:51:55 PM |
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:03:27 +0000, Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:40:45 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
.............because there are no atheist hospitals. And there are no atheist
help groups for katrina victims.
Atheists are not good for anything to help others other than to help themselves.
Atheists are very selfish people.
Not one atheist organization came forward to help the Katrina victims.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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13 Dec 2005 03:57:26 AM |
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:51:55 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:03:27 +0000, Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:40:45 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
.............because there are no atheist hospitals. And there are no atheist
help groups for katrina victims.
Atheists are not good for anything to help others other than to help themselves.
Atheists are very selfish people.
Not one atheist organization came forward to help the Katrina victims.
Are you seeking to imply that atheists did not help the Katrina
victims simply on the grounds that they do not have aid organisations.
We contribute to "Volunteers Overseas" which is intentionally non
religious. Do you seek to belittle my contribition by your bit of
disingenious half-truth? Thank you for your Christmass spirit towards
a fellow man - not!
Les Hellawell
Greetings from:
YORKSHIRE The White Rose County
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| User: "Sanitys little helper" |
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12 Dec 2005 07:52:46 AM |
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:40:45 -0600, duke wrote:
Atheists are not good for anything to help others other than to help themselves.
Atheists are very selfish people.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow, we eat, drink and be merry.
D Silverman FLAHN, SMLAHN
AA #2208
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| User: "John Baker" |
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12 Dec 2005 09:23:16 AM |
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:52:46 +0000, Sanity's little helper
<elvish@noshpam.net> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:40:45 -0600, duke wrote:
Atheists are not good for anything to help others other than to help themselves.
Atheists are very selfish people.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Earl must be getting pretty lonely these days, seeing as how most of
us are either ignoring him or have him killfiled. :-)
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| User: "Abner Mintz" |
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12 Dec 2005 07:23:22 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
.............because there are no atheist hospitals. And there
are no atheist help groups for katrina victims.
There are plenty of secular groups, and I never had any
problem working through them. Up until recently, I
didn't even have a problem working through religious
groups if the money went to helping people rather
than proselytizing, but people like you have sensitized
me to the fact that people like you think that working
through religious groups makes us inferior. Weird, that
- I would have thought that the ability to put aside our
differences and work together in times of emergency
was a good thing, but for some reason you sneer at
us for helping you do good things, so I've been trying
to avoid religious groups nowadays.
Atheists are not good for anything to help others other
than to help themselves. Atheists are very selfish people.
Hrm - so the almost 150 people I helped yesterday and
who gave me an ovation didn't actually exist? Interesting
... I wonder how I got that delusion that those people
existed and were so grateful for my help when no-one else
would help them. Several of my delusional people even
came up afterwards and said 'God bless you' to me.
Duke, why do you post your bigoted statements against
atheists? They're not true, and they don't help convince
any atheists to join you - if anything, they push us away.
I know that you lower my opinion of Christians with every
post.
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| User: "dgillesp" |
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12 Dec 2005 08:45:33 AM |
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Abner Mintz wrote:
duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
.............because there are no atheist hospitals. And there
are no atheist help groups for katrina victims.
There are plenty of secular groups, and I never had any
problem working through them. Up until recently, I
didn't even have a problem working through religious
groups if the money went to helping people rather
than proselytizing,
Officially mainline *non-fundamentalist* religious churches and groups
do not view assistance to those in need as a proselytizing tactic, but
rather an integral part of their ministry and mission in the world.
but people like you have sensitized
me to the fact that people like you think that working
through religious groups makes us inferior.
Please don't let the arrogance and disrespect of a vocal few in mainline
groups distort the basic goodwill and well meaning of the majority.
Every bag of apples I've ever bought always has one or two about to
rot. As you know, a very common way of boosting a shaky self image is
to look down one's nose at those one secretly fears to be superior. In
this particular case, I'd take Duke's rantings as a compliment.
Atheists are not good for anything to help others other
than to help themselves. Atheists are very selfish people.
We have a saying that the difference between clergy and laymen in the
Church is that the clergy are paid to be good whereas the laymen are
good for nothing.
Hrm - so the almost 150 people I helped yesterday and
who gave me an ovation didn't actually exist? Interesting
... I wonder how I got that delusion that those people
existed and were so grateful for my help when no-one else
would help them. Several of my delusional people even
came up afterwards and said 'God bless you' to me.
You've whetted my curiosity. Would you care to tell us more?
Duke, why do you post your bigoted statements against
atheists? They're not true, and they don't help convince
any atheists to join you - if anything, they push us away.
They also embarrass, scandalize and dismay most others of us who
recognize how antithetical such statements are to the bottom line of our
faith--to love God and your neighbor as yourself.
I know that you lower my opinion of Christians with every
post.
Alas, and no wonder.
--
Denny
"There cannot be a God because, If there were one, I would
not believe that I were not He." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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12 Dec 2005 06:10:56 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, dgillesp poured fuel on the fire
with the following:
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Officially mainline *non-fundamentalist* religious churches and groups
do not view assistance to those in need as a proselytizing tactic, but
rather an integral part of their ministry and mission in the world.
And "an integral part of their ministry and mission in the world" is
proselytization.
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We have a saying that the difference between clergy and laymen in the
Church is that the clergy are paid to be good whereas the laymen are
good for nothing.
Are you a member of the clergy, Denny?
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They also embarrass, scandalize and dismay most others of us who
recognize how antithetical such statements are to the bottom line of our
faith--to love God and your neighbor as yourself.
http://www.caber-records.com/mp3/dark_island.mp3
Regards,
Josef
It is in the ability to deceive oneself that the greatest talent is
shown.
-- Anatole France
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists are bad for America............... |
12 Dec 2005 06:29:29 PM |
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:10:56 -0500, Josef Balluch
<josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
In a message sent 'round the world, dgillesp poured fuel on the fire
with the following:
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Officially mainline *non-fundamentalist* religious churches and groups
do not view assistance to those in need as a proselytizing tactic, but
rather an integral part of their ministry and mission in the world.
And "an integral part of their ministry and mission in the world" is
proselytization.
Does he really really imagine he's fooling anybody but himself?
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