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"Hatter" |
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22 Feb 2007 03:52:40 PM |
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Atheist's Creed, whats not to trust? |
I did an internet search for this so called "Atheist Creed" found
one...it was a humanist creed to be sure, but to call it THE atheists
creed is rather a stretch. This was followed by page after page after
page of hits of theists talking about an atheists creed(sprinkled with
a few bits of sarcasm or parodies as well as the occasional atheist
saying there is no creed), not the one I found but some theist's seem
to believe exist.
So apparently theist aren't just happy with beleiving in their own non-
existent diety, but also apparently believe in some sort of universal
"Atheists Creed" that they also just make up. I used to think it was
an exaggeration by Mr. Lee, but evidence is starting to lead me to the
conclusion that theism naturally leads people to be liars.
Hatter
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| User: "KittenKaboodle" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist's Creed, whats not to trust? |
22 Feb 2007 09:46:05 PM |
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"Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in news:1172181159.968466.230820
@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com:
I did an internet search for this so called "Atheist Creed" found
one...it was a humanist creed to be sure, but to call it THE atheists
creed is rather a stretch. This was followed by page after page after
page of hits of theists talking about an atheists creed(sprinkled with
a few bits of sarcasm or parodies as well as the occasional atheist
saying there is no creed), not the one I found but some theist's seem
to believe exist.
So apparently theist aren't just happy with beleiving in their own
non-
existent diety, but also apparently believe in some sort of universal
"Atheists Creed" that they also just make up. I used to think it was
an exaggeration by Mr. Lee, but evidence is starting to lead me to the
conclusion that theism naturally leads people to be liars.
Hatter
I was wondering about that creed nonsense, I've seen it quite often in
the past month or so...seemed to be one of those memes that pop out of
nowhere and spread quickly, like cute cat pictures. I hope it goes away
faster than cat pictures.
If there was suddenly some creed I was required to follow --I wouldn't.
KittenKaboodle
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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23 Feb 2007 04:08:51 PM |
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On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 04:46:05 +0100 (CET), KittenKaboodle
<somekat@thelitterbox.com> wrote:
I was wondering about that creed nonsense, I've seen it quite often in
the past month or so...seemed to be one of those memes that pop out of
nowhere and spread quickly, like cute cat pictures.
More like cat poop.
If there was suddenly some creed I was required to follow --I wouldn't.
There is - "Don't". (Follow any creeds, that is.)
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| User: "KittenKaboodle" |
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23 Feb 2007 06:36:05 PM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:pdput2927ksgo6n8of66pbvvtfgijhdsec@4ax.com:
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 04:46:05 +0100 (CET), KittenKaboodle
<somekat@thelitterbox.com> wrote:
I was wondering about that creed nonsense, I've seen it quite often
in
the past month or so...seemed to be one of those memes that pop out of
nowhere and spread quickly, like cute cat pictures.
More like cat poop.
Ironically, or not--I keep a blog that I call the litterbox, where I
dump crap that bugs me, and there's plenty that bugs me.. One of my
topics is "religion makes people stupid" I never seem to run out of
material.
If there was suddenly some creed I was required to follow --I
wouldn't.
There is - "Don't". (Follow any creeds, that is.)
I like that creed, easy to not follow. or follow. or whatever!
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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23 Feb 2007 09:16:25 PM |
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On Sat, 24 Feb 2007 01:36:05 +0100 (CET), KittenKaboodle
<somekat@thelitterbox.com> wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:pdput2927ksgo6n8of66pbvvtfgijhdsec@4ax.com:
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 04:46:05 +0100 (CET), KittenKaboodle
<somekat@thelitterbox.com> wrote:
I was wondering about that creed nonsense, I've seen it quite often
in
the past month or so...seemed to be one of those memes that pop out of
nowhere and spread quickly, like cute cat pictures.
More like cat poop.
Ironically, or not--I keep a blog that I call the litterbox, where I
dump crap that bugs me, and there's plenty that bugs me.. One of my
topics is "religion makes people stupid" I never seem to run out of
material.
You'll start running out about 1,000 years after the last theist dies.
If there was suddenly some creed I was required to follow --I wouldn't.
There is - "Don't". (Follow any creeds, that is.)
I like that creed, easy to not follow. or follow. or whatever!
As long as you don't not believe in the wrong god. Or not believe in
the right god in the wrong way. No one ever told you it's easy being
an atheist, right?
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| User: "Mettas Mother" |
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23 Feb 2007 09:15:16 PM |
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GOD! A Placebo that sooths the fearful mind!
GOD is Innocent of Existence Till
Proven Guilty of Existence!
"Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1172181159.968466.230820@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
I did an internet search for this so called "Atheist Creed" found
one...it was a humanist creed to be sure, but to call it THE atheists
creed is rather a stretch. This was followed by page after page after
page of hits of theists talking about an atheists creed(sprinkled with
a few bits of sarcasm or parodies as well as the occasional atheist
saying there is no creed), not the one I found but some theist's seem
to believe exist.
So apparently theist aren't just happy with beleiving in their own non-
existent diety, but also apparently believe in some sort of universal
"Atheists Creed" that they also just make up. I used to think it was
an exaggeration by Mr. Lee, but evidence is starting to lead me to the
conclusion that theism naturally leads people to be liars.
Hatter
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| User: "bob young" |
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22 Feb 2007 11:30:02 PM |
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Hatter wrote:
I did an internet search for this so called "Atheist Creed" found
one...it was a humanist creed to be sure, but to call it THE atheists
creed is rather a stretch. This was followed by page after page after
page of hits of theists talking about an atheists creed(sprinkled with
a few bits of sarcasm or parodies as well as the occasional atheist
saying there is no creed), not the one I found but some theist's seem
to believe exist.
So apparently theist aren't just happy with beleiving in their own non-
existent diety, but also apparently believe in some sort of universal
"Atheists Creed" that they also just make up. I used to think it was
an exaggeration by Mr. Lee, but evidence is starting to lead me to the
conclusion that theism naturally leads people to be liars.
Hatter
I assume that you always shorten your signature Mad Hatter ?
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| User: "Hatter" |
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23 Feb 2007 06:45:38 AM |
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On Feb 23, 12:30 am, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:
Hatterwrote:
I did an internet search for this so called "Atheist Creed" found
one...it was a humanist creed to be sure, but to call it THE atheists
creed is rather a stretch. This was followed by page after page after
page of hits of theists talking about an atheists creed(sprinkled with
a few bits of sarcasm or parodies as well as the occasional atheist
saying there is no creed), not the one I found but some theist's seem
to believe exist.
So apparently theist aren't just happy with beleiving in their own non-
existent diety, but also apparently believe in some sort of universal
"Atheists Creed" that they also just make up. I used to think it was
an exaggeration by Mr. Lee, but evidence is starting to lead me to the
conclusion that theism naturally leads people to be liars.
Hatter
I assume that you always shorten your signature MadHatter?- Hide quoted text -
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Mad Hatter was a nickname, back in the day, somewhere about 1990people
just started calling me Hatter, I stuck with it. Given 3 years with
the 'Mad,' and 17 without it, I hardly even notice the fact it has
been shortened.
Hatter
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| User: "bob young" |
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24 Feb 2007 12:30:02 AM |
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Hatter wrote:
On Feb 23, 12:30 am, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:
Hatterwrote:
I did an internet search for this so called "Atheist Creed" found
one...it was a humanist creed to be sure, but to call it THE atheists
creed is rather a stretch. This was followed by page after page after
page of hits of theists talking about an atheists creed(sprinkled with
a few bits of sarcasm or parodies as well as the occasional atheist
saying there is no creed), not the one I found but some theist's seem
to believe exist.
So apparently theist aren't just happy with beleiving in their own non-
existent diety, but also apparently believe in some sort of universal
"Atheists Creed" that they also just make up. I used to think it was
an exaggeration by Mr. Lee, but evidence is starting to lead me to the
conclusion that theism naturally leads people to be liars.
Hatter
I assume that you always shorten your signature MadHatter?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Mad Hatter was a nickname, back in the day, somewhere about 1990people
just started calling me Hatter, I stuck with it. Given 3 years with
the 'Mad,' and 17 without it, I hardly even notice the fact it has
been shortened.
Thanks. Can I call you 'er ?
Hatter
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| User: "J Forbes" |
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22 Feb 2007 04:27:24 PM |
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Hatter wrote:
I used to think it was
an exaggeration by Mr. Lee, but evidence is starting to lead me to the
conclusion that theism naturally leads people to be liars.
They have to lie to themselves to believe all that crap...what else
would you expect?
Jim
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| User: "Brian E. Clark" |
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03 Mar 2007 07:40:16 PM |
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In article <1172183244.462879.66770
@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>, J Forbes said...
They have to lie to themselves to believe all that crap...what else
would you expect?
When I was a lad, and I wanted to know what Mormonism was
about, I asked a Mormon. I got information about Judaism
from a Rabbi. A Muslim explained Islam to me. And so forth.
By contrast, too many Christians I've met are willing to
take their own religious leaders' word regarding the tenets
of other religions. That is a recipe for, at best,
ignorance, and at worst, bigotry.
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Brian E. Clark
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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03 Mar 2007 08:05:37 PM |
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On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 20:40:16 -0500, Brian E. Clark
<reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote:
In article <1172183244.462879.66770
@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>, J Forbes said...
They have to lie to themselves to believe all that crap...what else
would you expect?
When I was a lad, and I wanted to know what Mormonism was
about, I asked a Mormon. I got information about Judaism
from a Rabbi. A Muslim explained Islam to me. And so forth.
And having put yourself in their personal space by doing that, I'll
bet you listened, tried to understand and didn't try to prove their
beliefs wrong.
Which is something else too many Christians can't seem to do.
By contrast, too many Christians I've met are willing to
take their own religious leaders' word regarding the tenets
of other religions. That is a recipe for, at best,
ignorance, and at worst, bigotry.
And because they trust their leaders, it means they don't believe what
we say when we correct them.
Which is the root of their arrogant nastiness when they insist they
know our minds better than we do ourselves, when they try to "prove"
they're right, ignore dictionary definitions which don't support them
to cherry pick ones that do etc.
Even though anybody with a shred of decency would realise that when
there is a dispute between what they tell us our position is, and what
we say it is, we are the final arbiter.
They have so little respect for others that they cannot grant we might
actually be telling the truth about ourselves.
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| User: "bob young" |
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22 Feb 2007 11:42:01 PM |
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J Forbes wrote:
Hatter wrote:
I used to think it was
an exaggeration by Mr. Lee, but evidence is starting to lead me to the
conclusion that theism naturally leads people to be liars.
They have to lie to themselves to believe all that crap...what else
would you expect?
Jim
"I Know exactly what you mean Jimmy:
The universe revolves around the earth.
Stars are pinpricks in the heavens.
The world is flat (and on pillars)
Bats are a kind of bird.
Rabbits chew their cud.
There is enough water to flood the entire planet
Women were created from a man's rib
Rainbows are a promise from God
[Acknowledgements to 'James, Seattle']
Blessed is the self righteous xtian,
for his is the sure and certain knowledge
that no matter what load of tripe he
comes out with: God told him to say it.
[Puck Greenman]
When Yahweh your god has settled you in the land you're about to occupy,
and driven out many infidels before you...you're to cut them down and
exterminate them. You're to make no compromise with them or show them any
mercy.
[Deut. 7:1 (KJV)]
If the man doesn't believe as we do, we say he is a crank, and that settles
it. I mean, it does nowadays, because now we can't burn him.
[Mark Twain]
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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22 Feb 2007 09:21:37 PM |
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Hatter:
...evidence is starting to lead me to the
conclusion that theism naturally leads people to be liars.
Here's some evidence to the contrary. ;)
As for this "atheist creed", well, morontheists can't live with the fact
that other people's thinking differs _severely_ from their own. If they
have a creed, then The Enemy(TM) _must_ have one also. If they kiss the
arse of jebus, then Darwinists(TM) _must_ suck Darwin's *****. If they
accept the crap in da wholly babble as truth, then Dem Ebil Fags(TM) _must_
have a "gay agenda written in blood" in their homes, signed with their own
blood.
Et cetera, ad nauseam. (Well, actually we can leave the et cetera out and
start with the nausea right away)
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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07 Mar 2007 07:50:57 PM |
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On 22 Feb 2007 13:52:40 -0800, "Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in
alt.atheism
I did an internet search for this so called "Atheist Creed" found
one...it was a humanist creed to be sure, but to call it THE atheists
creed is rather a stretch. This was followed by page after page after
page of hits of theists talking about an atheists creed(sprinkled with
a few bits of sarcasm or parodies as well as the occasional atheist
saying there is no creed), not the one I found but some theist's seem
to believe exist.
So apparently theist aren't just happy with beleiving in their own non-
existent diety, but also apparently believe in some sort of universal
"Atheists Creed" that they also just make up. I used to think it was
an exaggeration by Mr. Lee, but evidence is starting to lead me to the
conclusion that theism naturally leads people to be liars.
It, at least, encourages and enables them to do so.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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22 Feb 2007 04:01:22 PM |
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On 22 Feb 2007 13:52:40 -0800, "Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
I did an internet search for this so called "Atheist Creed" found
one...it was a humanist creed to be sure, but to call it THE atheists
creed is rather a stretch. This was followed by page after page after
page of hits of theists talking about an atheists creed(sprinkled with
a few bits of sarcasm or parodies as well as the occasional atheist
saying there is no creed), not the one I found but some theist's seem
to believe exist.
So apparently theist aren't just happy with beleiving in their own non-
existent diety, but also apparently believe in some sort of universal
"Atheists Creed" that they also just make up. I used to think it was
an exaggeration by Mr. Lee, but evidence is starting to lead me to the
conclusion that theism naturally leads people to be liars.
Thank you.
But I don't call them liars first time round, unless it's particularly
egregious.
They get a chance, when they get corrected, with an explanation why
common usage definitions of atheist are wrong.
But very few admit their mistake. So we get lectured on what it
"really" means to be atheist, told we're mistaken, and all sorts of
fabrications.
But by then it is no longer an honest mistake. Common courtesy demands
that they grant us the respect of knowing what our own position is.
Anything else is arrogant and rude.
Hatter
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| User: "bob young" |
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22 Feb 2007 11:34:01 PM |
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"Christopher A.Lee" wrote:
On 22 Feb 2007 13:52:40 -0800, "Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
I did an internet search for this so called "Atheist Creed" found
one...it was a humanist creed to be sure, but to call it THE atheists
creed is rather a stretch. This was followed by page after page after
page of hits of theists talking about an atheists creed(sprinkled with
a few bits of sarcasm or parodies as well as the occasional atheist
saying there is no creed), not the one I found but some theist's seem
to believe exist.
So apparently theist aren't just happy with beleiving in their own non-
existent diety, but also apparently believe in some sort of universal
"Atheists Creed" that they also just make up. I used to think it was
an exaggeration by Mr. Lee, but evidence is starting to lead me to the
conclusion that theism naturally leads people to be liars.
Thank you.
But I don't call them liars first time round, unless it's particularly
egregious.
They get a chance, when they get corrected, with an explanation why
common usage definitions of atheist are wrong.
But very few admit their mistake. So we get lectured on what it
"really" means to be atheist, told we're mistaken, and all sorts of
fabrications.
But by then it is no longer an honest mistake. Common courtesy demands
that they grant us the respect of knowing what our own position is.
Anything else is arrogant and rude.
Strange isn't it how you selected the word 'arrogance' as this is what
underlines religionists beliefs and actions the world over.
Sorry that we frighten you so much, but your soliution is simple.
Just trot out your god and the millions of atheists will then all disappear
in a puff of smoke
- over to you
Hatter
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23 Feb 2007 11:48:52 AM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:45DE7C5E.991F49C9@netvigator.com...
"Christopher A.Lee" wrote:
On 22 Feb 2007 13:52:40 -0800, "Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
I did an internet search for this so called "Atheist Creed" found
one...it was a humanist creed to be sure, but to call it THE atheists
creed is rather a stretch. This was followed by page after page after
page of hits of theists talking about an atheists creed(sprinkled with
a few bits of sarcasm or parodies as well as the occasional atheist
saying there is no creed), not the one I found but some theist's seem
to believe exist.
So apparently theist aren't just happy with beleiving in their own non-
existent diety, but also apparently believe in some sort of universal
"Atheists Creed" that they also just make up. I used to think it was
an exaggeration by Mr. Lee, but evidence is starting to lead me to the
conclusion that theism naturally leads people to be liars.
Thank you.
But I don't call them liars first time round, unless it's particularly
egregious.
They get a chance, when they get corrected, with an explanation why
common usage definitions of atheist are wrong.
But very few admit their mistake. So we get lectured on what it
"really" means to be atheist, told we're mistaken, and all sorts of
fabrications.
But by then it is no longer an honest mistake. Common courtesy demands
that they grant us the respect of knowing what our own position is.
Anything else is arrogant and rude.
Strange isn't it how you selected the word 'arrogance' as this is what
underlines religionists beliefs and actions the world over.
Sorry that we frighten you so much, but your soliution is simple.
Just trot out your god and the millions of atheists will then all
disappear
in a puff of smoke
I did, and they didn't.
Liar.
Host.
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| User: "Hatter" |
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23 Feb 2007 11:55:02 AM |
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On Feb 23, 12:48 pm, "the_Host" <the_H...@everywhere.net> wrote:
"bob young" <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:45DE7C5E.991F49C9@netvigator.com...
"Christopher A.Lee" wrote:
On 22 Feb 2007 13:52:40 -0800, "Hatter" <Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote:
I did an internet search for this so called "Atheist Creed" found
one...it was a humanist creed to be sure, but to call it THE atheists
creed is rather a stretch. This was followed by page after page after
page of hits of theists talking about an atheists creed(sprinkled with
a few bits of sarcasm or parodies as well as the occasional atheist
saying there is no creed), not the one I found but some theist's seem
to believe exist.
So apparently theist aren't just happy with beleiving in their own non-
existent diety, but also apparently believe in some sort of universal
"Atheists Creed" that they also just make up. I used to think it was
an exaggeration by Mr. Lee, but evidence is starting to lead me to the
conclusion that theism naturally leads people to be liars.
Thank you.
But I don't call them liars first time round, unless it's particularly
egregious.
They get a chance, when they get corrected, with an explanation why
common usage definitions of atheist are wrong.
But very few admit their mistake. So we get lectured on what it
"really" means to be atheist, told we're mistaken, and all sorts of
fabrications.
But by then it is no longer an honest mistake. Common courtesy demands
that they grant us the respect of knowing what our own position is.
Anything else is arrogant and rude.
Strange isn't it how you selected the word 'arrogance' as this is what
underlines religionists beliefs and actions the world over.
Sorry that we frighten you so much, but your soliution is simple.
Just trot out your god and the millions of atheists will then all
disappear
in a puff of smoke
I did, and they didn't.
Liar.
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You trotted out your God?, wow you'd think there would have been a
news conference or something
or are you.....lying?
Hatter
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24 Feb 2007 12:27:02 AM |
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Hatter wrote:
On Feb 23, 12:48 pm, "the_Host" <the_H...@everywhere.net> wrote:
"bob young" <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:45DE7C5E.991F49C9@netvigator.com...
"Christopher A.Lee" wrote:
On 22 Feb 2007 13:52:40 -0800, "Hatter" <Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote:
I did an internet search for this so called "Atheist Creed" found
one...it was a humanist creed to be sure, but to call it THE atheists
creed is rather a stretch. This was followed by page after page after
page of hits of theists talking about an atheists creed(sprinkled with
a few bits of sarcasm or parodies as well as the occasional atheist
saying there is no creed), not the one I found but some theist's seem
to believe exist.
So apparently theist aren't just happy with beleiving in their own non-
existent diety, but also apparently believe in some sort of universal
"Atheists Creed" that they also just make up. I used to think it was
an exaggeration by Mr. Lee, but evidence is starting to lead me to the
conclusion that theism naturally leads people to be liars.
Thank you.
But I don't call them liars first time round, unless it's particularly
egregious.
They get a chance, when they get corrected, with an explanation why
common usage definitions of atheist are wrong.
But very few admit their mistake. So we get lectured on what it
"really" means to be atheist, told we're mistaken, and all sorts of
fabrications.
But by then it is no longer an honest mistake. Common courtesy demands
that they grant us the respect of knowing what our own position is.
Anything else is arrogant and rude.
Strange isn't it how you selected the word 'arrogance' as this is what
underlines religionists beliefs and actions the world over.
Sorry that we frighten you so much, but your soliution is simple.
Just trot out your god and the millions of atheists will then all
disappear
in a puff of smoke
I did, and they didn't.
Liar.
Host.- Hide quoted text -
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You trotted out your God?, wow you'd think there would have been a
news conference or something
or are you.....lying?
They always finish up having to lie - they call it 'lying for god'
as if their credo isn't already a joke !
Hatter
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| Title: Re: Atheist's Creed, whats not to trust? |
07 Mar 2007 07:53:01 PM |
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On 23 Feb 2007 09:55:02 -0800, "Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in
alt.atheism
On Feb 23, 12:48 pm, "the_Host" <the_H...@everywhere.net> wrote:
"bob young" <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:45DE7C5E.991F49C9@netvigator.com...
"Christopher A.Lee" wrote:
On 22 Feb 2007 13:52:40 -0800, "Hatter" <Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote:
I did an internet search for this so called "Atheist Creed" found
one...it was a humanist creed to be sure, but to call it THE atheists
creed is rather a stretch. This was followed by page after page after
page of hits of theists talking about an atheists creed(sprinkled with
a few bits of sarcasm or parodies as well as the occasional atheist
saying there is no creed), not the one I found but some theist's seem
to believe exist.
So apparently theist aren't just happy with beleiving in their own non-
existent diety, but also apparently believe in some sort of universal
"Atheists Creed" that they also just make up. I used to think it was
an exaggeration by Mr. Lee, but evidence is starting to lead me to the
conclusion that theism naturally leads people to be liars.
Thank you.
But I don't call them liars first time round, unless it's particularly
egregious.
They get a chance, when they get corrected, with an explanation why
common usage definitions of atheist are wrong.
But very few admit their mistake. So we get lectured on what it
"really" means to be atheist, told we're mistaken, and all sorts of
fabrications.
But by then it is no longer an honest mistake. Common courtesy demands
that they grant us the respect of knowing what our own position is.
Anything else is arrogant and rude.
Strange isn't it how you selected the word 'arrogance' as this is what
underlines religionists beliefs and actions the world over.
Sorry that we frighten you so much, but your soliution is simple.
Just trot out your god and the millions of atheists will then all
disappear
in a puff of smoke
I did, and they didn't.
Liar.
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You trotted out your God?, wow you'd think there would have been a
news conference or something
or are you.....lying?
As always.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist's Creed, whats not to trust? |
23 Feb 2007 11:54:45 AM |
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On 23 Feb 2007 09:55:02 -0800, "Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
On Feb 23, 12:48 pm, "the_Host" <the_H...@everywhere.net> wrote:
"bob young" <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:45DE7C5E.991F49C9@netvigator.com...
"Christopher A.Lee" wrote:
On 22 Feb 2007 13:52:40 -0800, "Hatter" <Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote:
I did an internet search for this so called "Atheist Creed" found
one...it was a humanist creed to be sure, but to call it THE atheists
creed is rather a stretch. This was followed by page after page after
page of hits of theists talking about an atheists creed(sprinkled with
a few bits of sarcasm or parodies as well as the occasional atheist
saying there is no creed), not the one I found but some theist's seem
to believe exist.
So apparently theist aren't just happy with beleiving in their own non-
existent diety, but also apparently believe in some sort of universal
"Atheists Creed" that they also just make up. I used to think it was
an exaggeration by Mr. Lee, but evidence is starting to lead me to the
conclusion that theism naturally leads people to be liars.
Thank you.
But I don't call them liars first time round, unless it's particularly
egregious.
They get a chance, when they get corrected, with an explanation why
common usage definitions of atheist are wrong.
But very few admit their mistake. So we get lectured on what it
"really" means to be atheist, told we're mistaken, and all sorts of
fabrications.
But by then it is no longer an honest mistake. Common courtesy demands
that they grant us the respect of knowing what our own position is.
Anything else is arrogant and rude.
Strange isn't it how you selected the word 'arrogance' as this is what
underlines religionists beliefs and actions the world over.
Sorry that we frighten you so much, but your soliution is simple.
Just trot out your god and the millions of atheists will then all
disappear
in a puff of smoke
I did, and they didn't.
Liar.
Host.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You trotted out your God?, wow you'd think there would have been a
news conference or something
or are you.....lying?
Heaven(tm) forbid.
They think telling falsehoods doesn't make them liars, as long as
they're lying for god.
Hatter
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist's Creed, whats not to trust? |
07 Mar 2007 07:53:53 PM |
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On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:54:45 -0500, Christopher A.Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote in alt.atheism
On 23 Feb 2007 09:55:02 -0800, "Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
On Feb 23, 12:48 pm, "the_Host" <the_H...@everywhere.net> wrote:
"bob young" <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:45DE7C5E.991F49C9@netvigator.com...
"Christopher A.Lee" wrote:
On 22 Feb 2007 13:52:40 -0800, "Hatter" <Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote:
I did an internet search for this so called "Atheist Creed" found
one...it was a humanist creed to be sure, but to call it THE atheists
creed is rather a stretch. This was followed by page after page after
page of hits of theists talking about an atheists creed(sprinkled with
a few bits of sarcasm or parodies as well as the occasional atheist
saying there is no creed), not the one I found but some theist's seem
to believe exist.
So apparently theist aren't just happy with beleiving in their own non-
existent diety, but also apparently believe in some sort of universal
"Atheists Creed" that they also just make up. I used to think it was
an exaggeration by Mr. Lee, but evidence is starting to lead me to the
conclusion that theism naturally leads people to be liars.
Thank you.
But I don't call them liars first time round, unless it's particularly
egregious.
They get a chance, when they get corrected, with an explanation why
common usage definitions of atheist are wrong.
But very few admit their mistake. So we get lectured on what it
"really" means to be atheist, told we're mistaken, and all sorts of
fabrications.
But by then it is no longer an honest mistake. Common courtesy demands
that they grant us the respect of knowing what our own position is.
Anything else is arrogant and rude.
Strange isn't it how you selected the word 'arrogance' as this is what
underlines religionists beliefs and actions the world over.
Sorry that we frighten you so much, but your soliution is simple.
Just trot out your god and the millions of atheists will then all
disappear
in a puff of smoke
I did, and they didn't.
Liar.
Host.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You trotted out your God?, wow you'd think there would have been a
news conference or something
or are you.....lying?
Heaven(tm) forbid.
They think telling falsehoods doesn't make them liars, as long as
they're lying for god.
*Think?* These cretins are totally unequipped for that task.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist's Creed, whats not to trust? |
24 Feb 2007 12:26:01 AM |
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the_Host wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:45DE7C5E.991F49C9@netvigator.com...
"Christopher A.Lee" wrote:
On 22 Feb 2007 13:52:40 -0800, "Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
I did an internet search for this so called "Atheist Creed" found
one...it was a humanist creed to be sure, but to call it THE atheists
creed is rather a stretch. This was followed by page after page after
page of hits of theists talking about an atheists creed(sprinkled with
a few bits of sarcasm or parodies as well as the occasional atheist
saying there is no creed), not the one I found but some theist's seem
to believe exist.
So apparently theist aren't just happy with beleiving in their own non-
existent diety, but also apparently believe in some sort of universal
"Atheists Creed" that they also just make up. I used to think it was
an exaggeration by Mr. Lee, but evidence is starting to lead me to the
conclusion that theism naturally leads people to be liars.
Thank you.
But I don't call them liars first time round, unless it's particularly
egregious.
They get a chance, when they get corrected, with an explanation why
common usage definitions of atheist are wrong.
But very few admit their mistake. So we get lectured on what it
"really" means to be atheist, told we're mistaken, and all sorts of
fabrications.
But by then it is no longer an honest mistake. Common courtesy demands
that they grant us the respect of knowing what our own position is.
Anything else is arrogant and rude.
Strange isn't it how you selected the word 'arrogance' as this is what
underlines religionists beliefs and actions the world over.
Sorry that we frighten you so much, but your soliution is simple.
Just trot out your god and the millions of atheists will then all
disappear
in a puff of smoke
I did, and they didn't.
Liar.
That is obvious so no need to point it out. try harder next time
Host.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Atheist's Creed, whats not to trust? |
07 Mar 2007 07:52:03 PM |
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On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:01:22 -0500, Christopher A.Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote in alt.atheism
On 22 Feb 2007 13:52:40 -0800, "Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
I did an internet search for this so called "Atheist Creed" found
one...it was a humanist creed to be sure, but to call it THE atheists
creed is rather a stretch. This was followed by page after page after
page of hits of theists talking about an atheists creed(sprinkled with
a few bits of sarcasm or parodies as well as the occasional atheist
saying there is no creed), not the one I found but some theist's seem
to believe exist.
So apparently theist aren't just happy with beleiving in their own non-
existent diety, but also apparently believe in some sort of universal
"Atheists Creed" that they also just make up. I used to think it was
an exaggeration by Mr. Lee, but evidence is starting to lead me to the
conclusion that theism naturally leads people to be liars.
Thank you.
But I don't call them liars first time round, unless it's particularly
egregious.
They get a chance, when they get corrected, with an explanation why
common usage definitions of atheist are wrong.
But very few admit their mistake. So we get lectured on what it
"really" means to be atheist, told we're mistaken, and all sorts of
fabrications.
But by then it is no longer an honest mistake. Common courtesy demands
Courtesy isn't common, especially from Christians.
that they grant us the respect of knowing what our own position is.
Anything else is arrogant and rude.
That's Christian HumilityŽ.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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