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"Gactimus" |
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25 Aug 2004 09:19:41 AM |
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Atheists dying |
I just want to know how any Atheists feel about dying.
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| User: "Carla Krachun" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
27 Aug 2004 08:48:01 AM |
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"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
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I just want to know how any Atheists feel about dying.
I think it sucks -- but that's no surprise. Even people who believe in an
afterlife think that. My two main issues with it are (1) it may be painful
getting there, and (2) it means I no longer have time to make something of
myself before I die. Plus I don't like the idea of being a corpse; it's too
undignified.
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| User: "a.a.#2066" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
25 Aug 2004 08:41:00 PM |
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"Gactimus" <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
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I just want to know how any Atheists feel about dying.
How do would you like us to feel?
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| User: "Roger L. Bagula" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
25 Aug 2004 10:50:21 AM |
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An assumption that all scientists associated with the evolution of man
( ancient history of man) are Atheists seems to be involved. As far as
I know people of every religion study science and are involved in this
field. This post seems a "prejudice" based post?
In my experience Atheists take a very rational approach to death
as being an inevitable part of life.
One of the worst rap that Christians get is that they are
involved in "prejudice" against scientists.
Gactimus wrote:
I just want to know how any Atheists feel about dying.
Respectfully, Roger L. Bagula
tftn@earthlink.net, 11759Waterhill Road, Lakeside,Ca 92040-2905,tel:
619-5610814 :
URL : http://home.earthlink.net/~tftn
URL : http://victorian.fortunecity.com/carmelita/435/
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| User: "Brenda Nelson" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
02 Sep 2004 04:51:09 PM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message news:<cgi75t$trj$1@news1.usf.edu>...
I just want to know how any Atheists feel about dying.
Are you asking what I feel about the process of dying, or about the
condition of being dead? They aren't the same thing.
I don't look forward to the process of dying; most of these processes
hurt.
The state of being dead doesn't bother me in the least.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
Chief Wrangler and Ramrod Emeritus
(and Professor of Feline Thermometrics)
EAC Equine Transportation Command/Carne Seca Division
in the Prefecture of Baja, Arizona
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| User: "Az_" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
26 Aug 2004 11:41:47 AM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message news:<cgi75t$trj$1@news1.usf.edu>...
I just want to know how any Atheists feel about dying.
I prefer to keep it as a long term issue. Not really afraid of it.
More a case of being tremendously inconvienianced by it. I mean there
you are, going about your business, and suddenly there you aren't.
Sure no worries about what happens afterwards but a touch of sadness
about not being around to see what this ole universe makes of itself.
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| User: "lensman1955" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
10 Sep 2004 12:57:07 PM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message news:<cgi75t$trj$1@news1.usf.edu>...
I just want to know how any Atheists feel about dying.
I think death and beautiful and necessary thing. I just don't want to
be around when it happens - Woody Allen
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| User: "mildmanneredenglishman" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
26 Aug 2004 02:28:27 AM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message news:<cgi75t$trj$1@news1.usf.edu>...
I just want to know how any Atheists feel about dying.
I would prefer it not to happen for a very long time indeed, life is
way too interesting and fun to walk away prematurely. It's gonna
happen though, so my feelings can best be summed up by a great Black
adder quote:
"Pass me some marble and a chisel Baldrick, I'm going to make my
gravestone. 'Here lies Edmond Black Adder; and he's bloody annoyed!'"
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| User: "SneakyPete" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
25 Aug 2004 02:39:41 PM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message news:<cgi75t$trj$1@news1.usf.edu>...
I just want to know how any Atheists feel about dying.
I'd like to avoid it for as long as possible.
On the flip side, why do christians avoid death?
Peter
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| User: "torch" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
25 Aug 2004 03:19:30 PM |
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"SneakyPete" <grendlemonster@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:81925c88.0408251139.3df00842@posting.google.com...
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:<cgi75t$trj$1@news1.usf.edu>...
I just want to know how any Atheists feel about dying.
I'd like to avoid it for as long as possible.
On the flip side, why do christians avoid death?
Peter
perhaps their eternal intellectual buttfucking by the great sky pixie is not
quite as attractive as they would have you believe
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| User: "Peter J Ross" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
25 Aug 2004 03:54:42 PM |
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On 25 Aug 2004 12:39:41 -0700, SneakyPete wrote:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message news:<cgi75t$trj$1@news1.usf.edu>...
I just want to know how any Atheists feel about dying.
I'd like to avoid it for as long as possible.
On the flip side, why do christians avoid death?
So they can pester people on Usenet for a few years longer.
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PJR :-)
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http://www.insurgent.org/~kook-faq/
(Remove NOSPAM to reply.)
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| User: "Dr. Flonkenstein" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
25 Aug 2004 07:02:55 PM |
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Being tired of lurking, on Wed, 25 Aug 2004 20:54:42 +0000, Peter J Ross
posted:
On 25 Aug 2004 12:39:41 -0700, SneakyPete wrote:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message
news:<cgi75t$trj$1@news1.usf.edu>...
I just want to know how any Atheists feel about dying.
I'd like to avoid it for as long as possible.
On the flip side, why do christians avoid death?
So they can pester people on Usenet for a few years longer.
Unless they learn to fly the saucer set at Groom Lake!
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mhm 27x12
smeeter #28
Usenet Valhalla Circle #19 & #21
Bartlo's hate lits #1: <40376AD8.C83FBF5A@enter.net>
CEO Alcatroll Labs Inc.
The Way of the Kook:
http://www.insurgent.org/~jhd/kookway.htm
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
26 Aug 2004 12:33:22 AM |
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SneakyPete wrote:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message news:<cgi75t$trj$1@news1.usf.edu>...
I just want to know how any Atheists feel about dying.
I'd like to avoid it for as long as possible.
On the flip side, why do christians avoid death?
because they have nagging doubts about their myth
Peter
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| User: "John Norris" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
25 Aug 2004 01:07:07 PM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message news:<cgi75t$trj$1@news1.usf.edu>...
I just want to know how any Atheists feel about dying.
Personally, I don't know anyone who wants to die right now. Since no
one has ever not died, I'm pretty much sure it ain't optional for the
living.
JohnN
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
26 Aug 2004 12:31:55 AM |
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John Norris wrote:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message news:<cgi75t$trj$1@news1.usf.edu>...
I just want to know how any Atheists feel about dying.
Personally, I don't know anyone who wants to die right now. Since no
one has ever not died, I'm pretty much sure it ain't optional for the
living.
I've never had the opportunity of chatting to anyone who has died
JohnN
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| User: "Mike Oliver" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
25 Aug 2004 01:43:25 PM |
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John Norris wrote:
Personally, I don't know anyone who wants to die right now. Since no
one has ever not died, I'm pretty much sure it ain't optional for the
living.
I have never died.
Though if you were to press me I would have to admit that such a
bald statement goes beyond the available evidence. Let me say
rather that I have no clear memory of ever having died.
And though it won't do any good, I'd point out once again that
this discussion is off-topic for sci.logic. There used to be
a time when that actually mattered. Given what sci.logic has
become, I don't suppose the atheism discussions really hurt
it much.
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| User: "Acid Pooh" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
25 Aug 2004 05:29:06 PM |
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Mike Oliver <mike_lists@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<2p44udFg9nv6U1@uni-berlin.de>...
And though it won't do any good, I'd point out once again that
this discussion is off-topic for sci.logic. There used to be
a time when that actually mattered. Given what sci.logic has
become, I don't suppose the atheism discussions really hurt
it much.
Yeah. :-(
'cid 'ooh -- a sci.logic'er
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| User: "Holden" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
25 Aug 2004 02:58:30 PM |
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Mike Oliver wrote:
John Norris wrote:
Personally, I don't know anyone who wants to die right now. Since no
one has ever not died, I'm pretty much sure it ain't optional for the
living.
I have never died.
Though if you were to press me I would have to admit that such a
bald statement goes beyond the available evidence. Let me say
rather that I have no clear memory of ever having died.
And though it won't do any good, I'd point out once again that
this discussion is off-topic for sci.logic. There used to be
a time when that actually mattered. Given what sci.logic has
become, I don't suppose the atheism discussions really hurt
it much.
Wow, who would expect a member of a group called sci.logic to not understand
the relevance of a question concerning non-religious beliefs about death? No
wonder he doesn't speak highly of the current state of that group :)
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| User: "Mike Oliver" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
25 Aug 2004 03:03:23 PM |
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Holden wrote:
Wow, who would expect a member of a group called sci.logic to not understand
the relevance of a question concerning non-religious beliefs about death? No
wonder he doesn't speak highly of the current state of that group :)
Sci.logic is not for the discussion of anything to which logic
is relevant. That would make it a newsgroup for just about
everything. This was never the intent at all.
Sci.logic is for discussions *about* logic, particularly
mathematical and philosophical logic. Set theory, recursion
theory, model theory, modal logics, etc. Anything on topics
about which papers might appear in J. Symbolic Logic or
J. Philosophical Logic is fair game; anything else is suspect.
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| User: "Lee Rudolph" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
25 Aug 2004 03:36:49 PM |
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Mike Oliver <mike_lists@verizon.net> writes:
Sci.logic is not for the discussion of anything to which logic
is relevant. That would make it a newsgroup for just about
everything.
Followups to alt.religion.kibology.
Lee Rudolph
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| User: "Holden" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
25 Aug 2004 03:38:03 PM |
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Mike Oliver wrote:
Holden wrote:
Wow, who would expect a member of a group called sci.logic to not
understand the relevance of a question concerning non-religious
beliefs about death? No wonder he doesn't speak highly of the
current state of that group :)
Sci.logic is not for the discussion of anything to which logic
is relevant.
I rest my case :)
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| User: "Mike Oliver" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
25 Aug 2004 04:30:04 PM |
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Holden wrote:
Mike Oliver wrote:
Holden wrote:
Wow, who would expect a member of a group called sci.logic to not
understand the relevance of a question concerning non-religious
beliefs about death? No wonder he doesn't speak highly of the
current state of that group :)
Sci.logic is not for the discussion of anything to which logic
is relevant.
I rest my case :)
Ah, this is the problem with the word "any" again. Rephrase:
the mere fact that logic is relevant to a question, does
not make that question on-topic for sci.logic.
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| User: "Holden" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
26 Aug 2004 03:22:37 PM |
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Mike Oliver wrote:
Holden wrote:
Mike Oliver wrote:
Holden wrote:
Wow, who would expect a member of a group called sci.logic to not
understand the relevance of a question concerning non-religious
beliefs about death? No wonder he doesn't speak highly of the
current state of that group :)
Sci.logic is not for the discussion of anything to which logic
is relevant.
I rest my case :)
Ah, this is the problem with the word "any" again. Rephrase:
the mere fact that logic is relevant to a question, does
not make that question on-topic for sci.logic.
Much better :)
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
25 Aug 2004 03:48:22 PM |
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On 25 Aug 2004 11:07:07 -0700, (John Norris)
wrote:
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message news:<cgi75t$trj$1@news1.usf.edu>...
I just want to know how any Atheists feel about dying.
Personally, I don't know anyone who wants to die right now. Since no
one has ever not died,
I can show you somewhere around 6 billion people who haven't, if you
have the time... ;-)
I'm pretty much sure it ain't optional for the
living.
JohnN
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| User: "Andrew Lias" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
27 Aug 2004 03:51:16 AM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message news:<cgi75t$trj$1@news1.usf.edu>...
I just want to know how any Atheists feel about dying.
Personally, I'm against it.
--
Andrew Lias
http://andrewlias.blogspot.com
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| User: "Rob" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
26 Aug 2004 09:39:45 AM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message news:<cgi75t$trj$1@news1.usf.edu>...
I just want to know how any Atheists feel about dying.
Then I'll tell you. I am an atheist. Dying is a great privilege -
the greatest privelege imaginable. In fact, imagining it makes it a
greater privelege than it would otherwise be.
I should point out that I love life and am in no hurry to die. If you
are interested I will explain further, but you can probably work out
for yourself exactly what I mean, as you consider yourself, I am sure,
to be at least as intelligent as I am. After all, I suspect that you
are not an atheist.
Rob
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| User: "geezerguy" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
25 Aug 2004 04:34:35 PM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in message news:<cgi75t$trj$1@news1.usf.edu>...
I just want to know how any Atheists feel about dying.
They are just going to where they were before they were born.
Their feelings are diverse as any group.
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
25 Aug 2004 11:27:09 PM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in news:cgi75t$trj$1@news1.usf.edu:
I just want to know how any Atheists feel about dying.
How do you feel about.
LK.
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| User: "Singleterry" |
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25 Aug 2004 10:43:31 AM |
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Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in news:cgi75t$trj$1@news1.usf.edu:
I just want to know how any Atheists feel about dying.
Atheism is just a religion for people with no ability to trust or even
feel beyond their fingers. Atheism is stupid and pointless.
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| User: "Karl Johanson" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
27 Aug 2004 11:41:28 AM |
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"Singleterry" <singleterry@aol.com> wrote in message
I just want to know how any Atheists feel about dying.
Atheism is just a religion for people with no ability to trust or even
feel beyond their fingers.
As apposed to those who chose to trust one of the infinite number of
possible religious systems? You've rejected every possible religious system,
except one. Atheists have rejected exactly one more religion than you have.
Atheism is stupid and pointless.
Mt.5:22 "Whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."
Karl Johanson
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists dying |
25 Aug 2004 06:30:42 PM |
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"Singleterry" <singleterry@aol.com> wrote in message
news:gfY0FpriEHA.756@prospero.stardock.local...
Gactimus <gactimus@xrs.net> wrote in news:cgi75t$trj$1@news1.usf.edu:
I just want to know how any Atheists feel about dying.
Atheism is just a religion for people with no ability to trust or even
feel beyond their fingers. Atheism is stupid and pointless.
Who asked you, dingleberry?
Hey, you're the one that believes in something for which there is no
evidence. Go figure.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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