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"Brian Westley" |
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21 Mar 2007 10:58:37 PM |
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Atheists win against Starke (FL) watertower cross |
Judge Moore rules against Starke
(no, not THAT Judge Moore, and not Peter Stark(e)):
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=22575
FEDERAL COURT: STARKE, FLA. VIOLATED FEDERAL, STATE CONSTITUTIONS BY
DISPLAYING CHRISTIAN CROSS
March 21, 2007
A federal court ruled Tuesday that the city of Starke, Fla. violated the
federal and state constitutions by placing and maintaining a metal
Christian cross on top of a municipal water tower.
A resident of the town, aided by American Atheists and represented by
attorney Frank Shooster, challenged the display which had been erected
over 30 years ago at the behest of local officials, and was illuminated
at night. The cross was also periodically maintained at public expense.
U.S. District Court Judge John H. Moore, II found for the plaintiffs,
and dismissed several arguments devised by the City. Citing earlier
legal precedents, the judge noted that the cross was "indistinguishable
from the ubiquitous crosses found on any number of churches within the
State of Florida and across the country symbolizing Christianity." He
added in his written opinion:
"The display of the Cross on the water tower has the unconstitutional
effect of advancing, affirming, or otherwise validating Christianity ...
To the objective observer, the combination of the words 'STARKE' and the
Cross on the water tower clearly communicates the City's endorsement of
Christianity..."
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Merlyn LeRoy
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists win against Starke (FL) watertower cross |
22 Mar 2007 02:21:15 PM |
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"Brian Westley" <westley@visi.com> wrote in message
news:1303vndijasika8@corp.supernews.com...
Judge Moore rules against Starke
(no, not THAT Judge Moore, and not Peter Stark(e)):
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=22575
FEDERAL COURT: STARKE, FLA. VIOLATED FEDERAL, STATE CONSTITUTIONS BY
DISPLAYING CHRISTIAN CROSS
Oooh, did it glow when they fired up Old Sparky at Starke Prison?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists win against Starke (FL) watertower cross |
22 Mar 2007 07:55:18 AM |
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 03:58:37 +0000, Brian Westley wrote:
Judge Moore rules against Starke
(no, not THAT Judge Moore, and not Peter Stark(e)):
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=22575
FEDERAL COURT: STARKE, FLA. VIOLATED FEDERAL, STATE CONSTITUTIONS BY
DISPLAYING CHRISTIAN CROSS
March 21, 2007
A federal court ruled Tuesday that the city of Starke, Fla. violated the
federal and state constitutions by placing and maintaining a metal
Christian cross on top of a municipal water tower.
A resident of the town, aided by American Atheists and represented by
attorney Frank Shooster, challenged the display which had been erected
over 30 years ago at the behest of local officials, and was illuminated at
night. The cross was also periodically maintained at public expense.
U.S. District Court Judge John H. Moore, II found for the plaintiffs, and
dismissed several arguments devised by the City. Citing earlier legal
precedents, the judge noted that the cross was "indistinguishable from the
ubiquitous crosses found on any number of churches within the State of
Florida and across the country symbolizing Christianity." He added in his
written opinion:
"The display of the Cross on the water tower has the unconstitutional
effect of advancing, affirming, or otherwise validating Christianity ...
To the objective observer, the combination of the words 'STARKE' and the
Cross on the water tower clearly communicates the City's endorsement of
Christianity..."
...
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Merlyn LeRoy
So now, no doubt, the municipal water tower in Stark, FL, will be sold to
the Department of Defense, as the Mt Soledad cross was?
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MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Hatter" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists win against Starke (FL) watertower cross |
22 Mar 2007 09:21:04 AM |
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On Mar 22, 8:55 am, MarkA <manth...@stopspam.net> wrote:
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 03:58:37 +0000, Brian Westley wrote:
Judge Moore rules against Starke
(no, not THAT Judge Moore, and not Peter Stark(e)):
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=2...
FEDERAL COURT: STARKE, FLA. VIOLATED FEDERAL, STATE CONSTITUTIONS BY
DISPLAYING CHRISTIAN CROSS
March 21, 2007
A federal court ruled Tuesday that the city of Starke, Fla. violated the
federal and state constitutions by placing and maintaining a metal
Christian cross on top of a municipal water tower.
A resident of the town, aided by American Atheists and represented by
attorney Frank Shooster, challenged the display which had been erected
over 30 years ago at the behest of local officials, and was illuminated at
night. The cross was also periodically maintained at public expense.
U.S. District Court Judge John H. Moore, II found for the plaintiffs, and
dismissed several arguments devised by the City. Citing earlier legal
precedents, the judge noted that the cross was "indistinguishable from the
ubiquitous crosses found on any number of churches within the State of
Florida and across the country symbolizing Christianity." He added in his
written opinion:
"The display of the Cross on the water tower has the unconstitutional
effect of advancing, affirming, or otherwise validating Christianity ...
To the objective observer, the combination of the words 'STARKE' and the
Cross on the water tower clearly communicates the City's endorsement of
Christianity..."
...
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Merlyn LeRoy
So now, no doubt, the municipal water tower in Stark, FL, will be sold to
the Department of Defense, as the Mt Soledad cross was?
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)- Hide quoted text -
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I think they will take a different course. If I was the typical
conniving theist/polotician.....
Say because of the lawsuit, there are no funds for the removal of the
cross
If Atheists volenteer, say they are not allowed on municipal land
Kill the funding for somthing highly popular, while stating the
funding has been used up by those damned atheist in this lawsuit.
"Rent" the top of the water tower for $1 a month to the local church
Delay taking it down, only scheduling it for the day after the
inaugeration ceremony of my opponent, using myself crying as it is
taken down as a photo op.
Hatter
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| User: "Brian Westley" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists win against Starke (FL) watertower cross |
22 Mar 2007 09:57:21 AM |
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"Hatter" <Hatter23@gmail.com> writes:
On Mar 22, 8:55 am, MarkA <manth...@stopspam.net> wrote:
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 03:58:37 +0000, Brian Westley wrote:
Judge Moore rules against Starke
(no, not THAT Judge Moore, and not Peter Stark(e)):
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=2...
FEDERAL COURT: STARKE, FLA. VIOLATED FEDERAL, STATE CONSTITUTIONS BY
DISPLAYING CHRISTIAN CROSS
March 21, 2007
A federal court ruled Tuesday that the city of Starke, Fla. violated the
federal and state constitutions by placing and maintaining a metal
Christian cross on top of a municipal water tower.
A resident of the town, aided by American Atheists and represented by
attorney Frank Shooster, challenged the display which had been erected
over 30 years ago at the behest of local officials, and was illuminated at
night. The cross was also periodically maintained at public expense.
U.S. District Court Judge John H. Moore, II found for the plaintiffs, and
dismissed several arguments devised by the City. Citing earlier legal
precedents, the judge noted that the cross was "indistinguishable from the
ubiquitous crosses found on any number of churches within the State of
Florida and across the country symbolizing Christianity." He added in his
written opinion:
"The display of the Cross on the water tower has the unconstitutional
effect of advancing, affirming, or otherwise validating Christianity ...
To the objective observer, the combination of the words 'STARKE' and the
Cross on the water tower clearly communicates the City's endorsement of
Christianity..."
...
---
Merlyn LeRoy
So now, no doubt, the municipal water tower in Stark, FL, will be sold to
the Department of Defense, as the Mt Soledad cross was?
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I think they will take a different course. If I was the typical
conniving theist/polotician.....
Say because of the lawsuit, there are no funds for the removal of the
cross
If Atheists volenteer, say they are not allowed on municipal land
Kill the funding for somthing highly popular, while stating the
funding has been used up by those damned atheist in this lawsuit.
"Rent" the top of the water tower for $1 a month to the local church
Delay taking it down, only scheduling it for the day after the
inaugeration ceremony of my opponent, using myself crying as it is
taken down as a photo op.
The cross was taken down a couple of weeks before the verdict;
the judge still issued a verdict on the grounds that just mooting
to case would open the possibility that the town would just put
it back up later.
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Merlyn LeRoy
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: Atheists win against Starke (FL) watertower cross |
22 Mar 2007 05:00:07 PM |
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:57:21 +0000, Brian Westley wrote:
The cross was taken down a couple of weeks before the verdict; the judge
still issued a verdict on the grounds that just mooting to case would open
the possibility that the town would just put it back up later.
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Merlyn LeRoy
Excellent! I was afraid they might keep appealing the ruling, over and
over, for decades. I guess they don't have as much money as San Diego.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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