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Religions > Atheism |
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"Anonymous" |
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19 Dec 2005 03:10:46 PM |
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ATTENTION ATHEISTS |
'Kate <athome@myownhome.net> wrote:
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:04:11 GMT, " KRP" <web2457k@verizon.net> the
following was posted in blue dry erase marker:
"'Kate" <athome@myownhome.net> wrote in message
news:861bq1t59vpbmdmnnmtv7ci490n6jupttg@4ax.com...
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:35:02 -0700 (MST), Borked Pseudo Mailed
<nobody@pseudo.borked.net> the following was posted in blue dry erase
marker:
<snip>
There's no excuse for posting personal info on the 'net.
o Everyone lies at some time or another
How many people - however erect a monument to their lies on his website?
Yeah, it's stupid to devote so much time to someone who is not even a
member of one's own family. All I can say is that I hope he gets a life
and stops living in the hatred that he has created. We're all aware of
how easy it is to demonize someone online.
o Few people go through life without getting into trouble with creditors
Or into disagreements. (The case is FAR from being resolved)
Ya know, ***** happens. Do your best and move on. The "move on" part is
relevant here.
o Even nuns get speeding tickets
Well isn't it at all interesting that he'd even HAVE that information?
Sort of a tip off to his OBSESSION his TOTAL obsession with me. Not to
mention his having WEB PAGES with my marriage certificate which he calls my
"MAIL ORDER CUBAN BRIDE" and then the one of my daughter and EX WIFE....
Could that be called STALKING?
It's an illness. Probably OCD/OCPD. Evidently, you pissed him off at
some time or another and now he's made you and your family an obsession.
You can't control his obsession because not even he can control it. Most
people can move on. He can't. I don't think that taking him to court
will help unless he is ordered to therapy. His actions do not make
sense.
o Nearly half of all marriages end in divorce so court records exist
Sadly things happen in life that are unanticipated. Things change -
especially with 24/7 HARASSMENT and RAPE THREATS from somebody with a web
site. And harassment of the wife at her work.
The guy's not entirely stable. BTW, what'd you do that set him off?
I don't agree with how you two are carrying on. I don't see an end to
it. However, I do have one request - please try to keep it out of the
grief group. Consider it your personal solstice gift to loveable ol' me.
There seems to be no end to this. I have never INITIATED a post to ASG.
Only replied to them
It seems to be calming down. That's nice.
And as for initiating, can we just say that if something like that is
posted, a member of ASG will reassure the current participants that the
post is designed to defame you and was not initiated by you. Would that
be more helpful than having a 100 post thread occur?
I did notice that the posts are supposed to incite people and seem not
to do that anymore. I guess the racial/ethnic/religious slurs and style
of the post simply don't warrant the attention that they use to. And
have you ever wondered why he chooses to use those particular words and
why he posts in specific groups each time?
Anyway... just wondering out loud.
'Kate
Thank you Kate. I have observed the harassment Ken Pangborn has suffered
at the hands of David Moore, and am GLAD to see that you are not fooled.
It is nice to see that there are SOME people on the net who have more than
one working brain cell.
Now that you have concluded that Moore is the culprit behind these
forgeries, perhaps you can share that with the alt.atheist gorup. They
have been slandering Ken for years by claiming that he is the author of
these forgeries.
-=-
This message was sent via two or more anonymous remailing services.
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| User: "Just Mark" |
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| Title: Re: ATTENTION ATHEISTS |
19 Dec 2005 03:50:42 PM |
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Thank you Kate. I have observed the harassment Ken Pangborn has suffered
at the hands of David Moore, and am GLAD to see that you are not fooled.
It is nice to see that there are SOME people on the net who have more than
one working brain cell.
Now that you have concluded that Moore is the culprit behind these
forgeries, perhaps you can share that with the alt.atheist gorup. They
have been slandering Ken for years by claiming that he is the author of
these forgeries.
[rolls eyes]
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: ATTENTION ATHEISTS |
19 Dec 2005 03:39:52 PM |
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In <UCGHPYDQ38705.6741435185@anonymous>, Anonymous
<BigappleRemailer@bigapple.yi.org> wrote:
Thank you Kate. I have observed the harassment Ken Pangborn has suffered
WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! WHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
That's *funny!
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"We need everything you've got"
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R2726554C
Forgotten Already
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H1233272C
Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O21E51C1C
http://www.nola.com
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| User: " KRP" |
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| Title: Re: ATTENTION ATHEISTS |
21 Dec 2005 09:49:10 AM |
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"Mark K. *****" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:5-6dnZxkfuE4tTreRVn-jA@megapath.net...
In <UCGHPYDQ38705.6741435185@anonymous>, Anonymous
<BigappleRemailer@bigapple.yi.org> wrote:
Thank you Kate. I have observed the harassment Ken Pangborn has suffered
WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! WHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
That's *funny!
Yes you ARE Markie!
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: ATTENTION ATHEISTS |
19 Dec 2005 06:13:38 PM |
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"Mark K. *****" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <UCGHPYDQ38705.6741435185@anonymous>, Anonymous
<BigappleRemailer@bigapple.yi.org> wrote:
Thank you Kate. I have observed the harassment Ken Pangborn has suffered
WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! WHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
That's *funny!
--
Hey JERKOFF.......I guess you MISSED that Kate did her research on the
forgeries. And concluded that they were made by your GAY LOVER MOORE.
Mark still losing the battle with puberty I see.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services.
The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header
is unverified.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: ATTENTION ATHEISTS |
19 Dec 2005 08:06:18 PM |
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In <OR2GAP0P38706.0511342593@anonymous.poster>,
anonymous@remailer.hastio.org wrote:
"Mark K. *****" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <UCGHPYDQ38705.6741435185@anonymous>, Anonymous
<BigappleRemailer@bigapple.yi.org> wrote:
Thank you Kate. I have observed the harassment Ken Pangborn has
suffered
WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! WHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
That's *funny!
--
Hey JERKOFF.......I guess you MISSED that Kate did her research on the
forgeries. And concluded that they were made by your GAY LOVER MOORE.
Mark still losing the battle with puberty I see.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services. The
original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header is
unverified.
Lemme revisit this a moment dimwit. You've had trouble with this concept
before.
Short of an actual court order, there is no legal way to discover *who* is
sending the anonymous messages. And even *with a court order, it's
unlikely the origin of any past message could be discovered as many (if
not all) remailers don't keep logs (and that's provided they're even in US
jurisdiction which many are not).
There is nothing to "investigate" far as the anonymous messages are
concerned. Nobody can determine who's sending them. That's the fucking
*point of using an anonymizer.
DUH.
The funniest thing is that if it is Moore sending the anonymous messages,
Pangborn's his puppet, dancing to Moore's tune every time Moore pulls his
strings.
If it is Moore, my hat's off to him. I've never seen someone so utterly
reduce an opponent on Usenet to the status of trained poodle...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"We need everything you've got"
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R2726554C
Forgotten Already
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H1233272C
Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O21E51C1C
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "freedom" |
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| Title: Re: ATTENTION ATHEISTS |
20 Dec 2005 07:39:41 PM |
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <OR2GAP0P38706.0511342593@anonymous.poster>,
anonymous@remailer.hastio.org wrote:
"Mark K. *****" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <UCGHPYDQ38705.6741435185@anonymous>, Anonymous
<BigappleRemailer@bigapple.yi.org> wrote:
Thank you Kate. I have observed the harassment Ken Pangborn has
suffered
WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! WHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
That's *funny!
--
Hey JERKOFF.......I guess you MISSED that Kate did her research on the
forgeries. And concluded that they were made by your GAY LOVER MOORE.
Mark still losing the battle with puberty I see.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services. The
original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header is
unverified.
Lemme revisit this a moment dimwit. You've had trouble with this concept
before.
Short of an actual court order, there is no legal way to discover *who* is
sending the anonymous messages. And even *with a court order, it's
unlikely the origin of any past message could be discovered as many (if
not all) remailers don't keep logs (and that's provided they're even in US
jurisdiction which many are not).
There's also "chaining" to consider. Most of the time, anonymizing
software allows the sender to select multiple remailers to send a message
through. The software then encrypts for each remailer in the chain.
Therefore, even if the remailer I'm using right here (Frell) is ordered to
produce logs, and even if they have logs, all they're going to see is that
the message came from another remailer (Borked).
Some people, I would imagine, might chain through up to half a dozen
remailers depending on their security needs. In my case, I'm not doing
espionage or anything like that....simply looking to post without people
like Ken learning my ISP and flooding the abuse desk with complaints.
There is nothing to "investigate" far as the anonymous messages are
concerned. Nobody can determine who's sending them. That's the fucking
*point of using an anonymizer.
Except for cases when someone is forging through a remailer, and forgets to
switch back to their own ID. Then switches back and sends the SAME message
eight hours later. :)
DUH.
The funniest thing is that if it is Moore sending the anonymous messages,
Pangborn's his puppet, dancing to Moore's tune every time Moore pulls his
strings.
If it is Moore, my hat's off to him. I've never seen someone so utterly
reduce an opponent on Usenet to the status of trained poodle...
LOL....thanks....I think.
No, I'm not making the forgeries. Of course, I could be lying, because as
you pointed out, there is no real way to determine who the sender is on any
remailed message (unless it's signed with PGP.) I suppose if I were "put
on the witness stand" I would have to offer the following on my behalf:
1. I've never had any beef or quarrel with anyone in the atheist group, or
any of the other groups which have been forged
2. On at least one occasion, Pangborn was proven to have forged. (This was
actually the forgery of you, where he sent the same message 8 hours later
from his Verizon: http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/altatheism.html)
3. He's been caught lying hundreds of times.
Of course, he can argue that I use remailers, the forger uses remailers.
By this logic, every time a pyramid scheme or phishing attack originates
from yahoo.com, all 100 million Yahoo users are responsible.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
Keywords: trial consultant,trial consulting,dads,fathers,ken
pangborn,kenneth pangborn,florida,palm
harbor,men,abuse,incest,rape,pedophile,teens,megan
pangborn,sanciprian,peggy pangborn,jay
holland,florida,tampa,cyberstalking,dean tong,david sharp,marina
taylor,florida lawyer,florida attorney,astc,american society of trial
consultants,racism,racist,hate crime,forgery,forgeries,fraud
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| User: " KRP" |
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| Title: Re: ATTENTION ATHEISTS MOORE SMOKE ALERT!! |
21 Dec 2005 09:55:18 AM |
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DAVID THE LIAR MOORE
"freedom" <aboutken@KRPaboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
news:429526e83995ba2ab46a65e442252303@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
1. I've never had any beef or quarrel with anyone in the atheist group, or
any of the other groups which have been forged
2. On at least one occasion, Pangborn was proven to have forged. (This
was
actually the forgery of you, where he sent the same message 8 hours later
from his Verizon: http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/altatheism.html)
Small problem there Moore - when one looks at the ACTUAL Google messages
instead of the slightly ALTERED versions (erasures) on your website..
One can see that the post (keep times straight Davey) is that MY POST
clearly shows it is a REPLY to an EARLIER forgery. You SNIP in your version,
the message reply ID AND my reply text entirely. Since I have NO control
over that part of the message HEADERS from a LEGITIMATE ISP, unlike
ANONYMOUS remailers that you HAVE TO use,
one can see the message REPLY with message ID's to what I was responding to.
Now Davey your "ABSOLUTE PROOF" again is all SMOKE!
I do NOT expect the AA users to get this.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: ATTENTION ATHEISTS |
20 Dec 2005 09:06:48 PM |
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In <429526e83995ba2ab46a65e442252303@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>,
"freedom" <aboutken@KRPaboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <OR2GAP0P38706.0511342593@anonymous.poster>,
anonymous@remailer.hastio.org wrote:
"Mark K. *****" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <UCGHPYDQ38705.6741435185@anonymous>, Anonymous
<BigappleRemailer@bigapple.yi.org> wrote:
Thank you Kate. I have observed the harassment Ken Pangborn has
suffered
WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! WHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
That's *funny!
--
Hey JERKOFF.......I guess you MISSED that Kate did her research on the
forgeries. And concluded that they were made by your GAY LOVER MOORE.
Mark still losing the battle with puberty I see.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services.
The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header
is unverified.
Lemme revisit this a moment dimwit. You've had trouble with this concept
before.
Short of an actual court order, there is no legal way to discover *who*
is sending the anonymous messages. And even *with a court order, it's
unlikely the origin of any past message could be discovered as many (if
not all) remailers don't keep logs (and that's provided they're even in
US jurisdiction which many are not).
There's also "chaining" to consider. Most of the time, anonymizing
software allows the sender to select multiple remailers to send a
message through. The software then encrypts for each remailer in the
chain. Therefore, even if the remailer I'm using right here (Frell) is
ordered to produce logs, and even if they have logs, all they're going
to see is that the message came from another remailer (Borked).
And as I recall, there's the whole "mixmaster" scheme that'll bounce
messages around anonymous servers for you.
Some people, I would imagine, might chain through up to half a dozen
remailers depending on their security needs. In my case, I'm not doing
espionage or anything like that....simply looking to post without people
like Ken learning my ISP and flooding the abuse desk with complaints.
Gee, you don't think he'd do *that do you?
There is nothing to "investigate" far as the anonymous messages are
concerned. Nobody can determine who's sending them. That's the fucking
*point of using an anonymizer.
Except for cases when someone is forging through a remailer, and forgets
to switch back to their own ID. Then switches back and sends the SAME
message eight hours later. :)
Well, there is *that.
I mean in the way he makes so much of the headers. There's just "there"
there.
DUH.
The funniest thing is that if it is Moore sending the anonymous
messages, Pangborn's his puppet, dancing to Moore's tune every time
Moore pulls his strings.
If it is Moore, my hat's off to him. I've never seen someone so utterly
reduce an opponent on Usenet to the status of trained poodle...
LOL....thanks....I think.
<G>
No, I'm not making the forgeries. Of course, I could be lying, because
as you pointed out, there is no real way to determine who the sender is
on any remailed message (unless it's signed with PGP.) I suppose if I
were "put on the witness stand" I would have to offer the following on
my behalf:
1. I've never had any beef or quarrel with anyone in the atheist group,
or any of the other groups which have been forged
While the forges here in a.a. started after he, himself, under his own
name and account, had a quite nasty run in with folks in a.a.
Funny that huh?
2. On at least one occasion, Pangborn was proven to have forged. (This
was actually the forgery of you, where he sent the same message 8 hours
later from his Verizon:
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/altatheism.html)
Oh I remember that one. <g>
3. He's been caught lying hundreds of times.
Of course, he can argue that I use remailers, the forger uses remailers.
By this logic, every time a pyramid scheme or phishing attack originates
from yahoo.com, all 100 million Yahoo users are responsible.
Yeah, the use of remailers tells us nothing one way or the other. The
things he finds "significant" are just... strange.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"We need everything you've got"
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R2726554C
Forgotten Already
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H1233272C
Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O21E51C1C
http://www.nola.com
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| User: " KRP" |
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| Title: Re: ATTENTION ATHEISTS |
21 Dec 2005 10:03:57 AM |
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"Mark K. *****" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:4JmdnfGJGeNZWzXe4p2dnA@megapath.net...
RTEPOLYING to his GOD DAVID MOORE as:
CAPTAIN freedom" <aboutken@KRPaboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
HINTY HINT MARKIE:
This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services.
The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header
is unverified.
Some people, I would imagine, might chain through up to half a dozen
remailers depending on their security needs. In my case, I'm not doing
espionage or anything like that....simply looking to post without people
like Ken learning my ISP and flooding the abuse desk with complaints.
Gee, you don't think he'd do *that do you?
If he is suffereing from Paranoia................
There is nothing to "investigate" far as the anonymous messages are
concerned. Nobody can determine who's sending them. That's the fucking
*point of using an anonymizer.
Except for cases when someone is forging through a remailer, and forgets
to switch back to their own ID. Then switches back and sends the SAME
message eight hours later. :)
Well, there is *that.
No Markie. BUT you are too STGUPID to know "that."
I mean in the way he makes so much of the headers. There's just "there"
there.
Mark IF you had the IQ to know how to read headers or have ANY even tiny
remote idea of any part of their significance you might realize that there
IS some "there" there!
For eample as a MORON you don't know WHAT significance there is in REFERENCE
MESSAGE ID's have. Your eyes begin to glaze over and your drooling down the
front of your shirt starts. I know you'll never uinderstand this because it
is so FAR over that pointy little head of yours... You see DIPSHIT - - IF
this was an ORIGINAL post from me where I just SLIPPED (as YOU believe) and
posted the same FORGERY from MY system there would be NO -- see if you can
folow this .. there would be NO message reference ID because it would be an
ORIGINAL post.. Bet you can't understand that. NOT A CHANCE IN HELL you'll
grasp it. More likely a goldfish could understand the theory of relativity
Mark.
Not to mention that IF you look at MY post and TOTALLY put reference ID
and complicated HEADERS out of the discussion - and you look at the actual
GOOGLE archives you just MIGHT see from the formatting that it was a REPLY
to a post that was mad earlier. Oh ***** ypou can't understanbd message
FORMATTING either! Here I am pissing in the wind again with an IGNORAMUS!
DUH.
The funniest thing is that if it is Moore sending the anonymous
messages, Pangborn's his puppet, dancing to Moore's tune every time
Moore pulls his strings.
If it is Moore, my hat's off to him. I've never seen someone so utterly
reduce an opponent on Usenet to the status of trained poodle...
LOL....thanks....I think.
<G>
No, I'm not making the forgeries. Of course, I could be lying, because
as you pointed out, there is no real way to determine who the sender is
on any remailed message (unless it's signed with PGP.) I suppose if I
were "put on the witness stand" I would have to offer the following on
my behalf:
1. I've never had any beef or quarrel with anyone in the atheist group,
or any of the other groups which have been forged
While the forges here in a.a. started after he, himself, under his own
name and account, had a quite nasty run in with folks in a.a.
Funny that huh?
2. On at least one occasion, Pangborn was proven to have forged. (This
was actually the forgery of you, where he sent the same message 8 hours
later from his Verizon:
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/altatheism.html)
Oh I remember that one. <g>
3. He's been caught lying hundreds of times.
Of course, he can argue that I use remailers, the forger uses remailers.
By this logic, every time a pyramid scheme or phishing attack originates
from yahoo.com, all 100 million Yahoo users are responsible.
Yeah, the use of remailers tells us nothing one way or the other. The
things he finds "significant" are just... strange.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"We need everything you've got"
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R2726554C
Forgotten Already
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H1233272C
Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O21E51C1C
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "freedom" |
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| Title: Re: ATTENTION ATHEISTS |
21 Dec 2005 05:38:53 PM |
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
" KRP" <web2457k@verizon.net> wrote:
"Mark K. *****" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:4JmdnfGJGeNZWzXe4p2dnA@megapath.net...
RTEPOLYING to his GOD DAVID MOORE as:
He doesn't have a "GOD". He's an atheist, you idiot.
CAPTAIN freedom" <aboutken@KRPaboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
HINTY HINT MARKIE:
This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services.
The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header
is unverified.
Some people, I would imagine, might chain through up to half a dozen
remailers depending on their security needs. In my case, I'm not doing
espionage or anything like that....simply looking to post without people
like Ken learning my ISP and flooding the abuse desk with complaints.
Gee, you don't think he'd do *that do you?
If he is suffereing from Paranoia................
There is nothing to "investigate" far as the anonymous messages are
concerned. Nobody can determine who's sending them. That's the fucking
*point of using an anonymizer.
Except for cases when someone is forging through a remailer, and forgets
to switch back to their own ID. Then switches back and sends the SAME
message eight hours later. :)
Well, there is *that.
No Markie. BUT you are too STGUPID to know "that."
Note to yourself....before you refer to other people as "stupid", it might
help if you learn how to spell it.
I mean in the way he makes so much of the headers. There's just "there"
there.
Mark IF you had the IQ to know how to read headers or have ANY even tiny
remote idea of any part of their significance you might realize that there
IS some "there" there!
For eample as a MORON you don't know WHAT significance there is in REFERENCE
MESSAGE ID's have. Your eyes begin to glaze over and your drooling down the
front of your shirt starts. I know you'll never uinderstand this because it
is so FAR over that pointy little head of yours... You see DIPSHIT - - IF
this was an ORIGINAL post from me where I just SLIPPED (as YOU believe) and
posted the same FORGERY from MY system there would be NO -- see if you can
folow this .. there would be NO message reference ID because it would be an
ORIGINAL post.. Bet you can't understand that. NOT A CHANCE IN HELL you'll
grasp it. More likely a goldfish could understand the theory of relativity
Mark.
Not to mention that IF you look at MY post and TOTALLY put reference ID
and complicated HEADERS out of the discussion - and you look at the actual
GOOGLE archives you just MIGHT see from the formatting that it was a REPLY
to a post that was mad earlier. Oh ***** ypou can't understanbd message
FORMATTING either! Here I am pissing in the wind again with an IGNORAMUS!
Wrong. If the text in question were something you were replying to, it
would have been designated as follows:
This is text which is being replied to.
This is also text which is being quoted in a reply.
This is text which is part of my reply.
Nice try, forger. Maybe you should go back to lying about International
Dateline. It might confuse a couple of people enough to actually believe
you. Next lie, please?
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
Keywords: trial consultant,trial consulting,dads,fathers,ken
pangborn,kenneth pangborn,florida,palm
harbor,men,abuse,incest,rape,pedophile,teens,megan
pangborn,sanciprian,peggy pangborn,jay
holland,florida,tampa,cyberstalking,dean tong,david sharp,marina
taylor,florida lawyer,florida attorney,astc,american society of trial
consultants,racism,racist,hate crime,forgery,forgeries,fraud,fathers
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| User: " KRP" |
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| Title: Re: ATTENTION ATHEISTS |
22 Dec 2005 10:46:15 AM |
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WHACK JOB MOORE
"freedom" <aboutken@KRPaboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
news:3213da81b7a9bd6039b9657cb3ecbcd9@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Wrong. If the text in question were something you were replying to, it
would have been designated as follows:
This is text which is being replied to.
This is also text which is being quoted in a reply.
Not always Davey. Not even most of the time today.
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| User: "freedom" |
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23 Dec 2005 02:23:39 AM |
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" KRP" <web2457k@verizon.net> wrote:
WHACK JOB MOORE
"freedom" <aboutken@KRPaboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
news:3213da81b7a9bd6039b9657cb3ecbcd9@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Wrong. If the text in question were something you were replying to, it
would have been designated as follows:
This is text which is being replied to.
This is also text which is being quoted in a reply.
Not always Davey. Not even most of the time today.
You're guilty of post forging, and you know it.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/altatheism.html proves it.
Considering retaining Kenneth Pangborn of Palm Harbor, Florida as a trial
consultant? Read here first:
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
Keywords: trial consultant,trial consulting,dads,fathers,ken
pangborn,kenneth pangborn,florida,palm
harbor,men,abuse,incest,rape,pedophile,teens,megan
pangborn,sanciprian,peggy pangborn,jay
holland,florida,tampa,cyberstalking,dean tong,david sharp,marina
taylor,florida lawyer,florida attorney,astc,american society of trial
consultants,racism,racist,hate crime,forgery,forgeries,fraud,fathers
rights,dads rights,divorce,abuse,domestic violence,false
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| User: " KRP" |
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| Title: Re: ATTENTION ATHEISTS |
23 Dec 2005 03:17:43 AM |
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LOSER OF THE CENTURY DAVID MOORE
"freedom" <aboutken@KRPaboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
news:fc341288ee1f4a52a224d787d158d3c9@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Wrong. If the text in question were something you were replying to, it
would have been designated as follows:
This is text which is being replied to.
This is also text which is being quoted in a reply.
Not always Davey. Not even most of the time today.
You're guilty of post forging, and you know it.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/altatheism.html proves it.
Nope Davey your ALTERED TEXT does NOT.. Google proves the opposite.
Considering retaining Kenneth Pangborn of Palm Harbor, Florida as a trial
consultant? Read here first:
AH the REAL objective of DAVID DIPSHIT MOORE rears its ugly little head
again!
Hey DIPSHIT - I see you ADDED the grief newsgroup back. I deleted it AGAIN!
You are such a little prikk!
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| User: "Tripper" |
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| Title: Re: ATTENTION ATHEISTS |
23 Dec 2005 03:28:48 AM |
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On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:17:43 GMT, " KRP" <web2457k@verizon.net> wrote:
LOSER OF THE CENTURY DAVID MOORE
"freedom" <aboutken@KRPaboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
news:fc341288ee1f4a52a224d787d158d3c9@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Wrong. If the text in question were something you were replying to, it
would have been designated as follows:
This is text which is being replied to.
This is also text which is being quoted in a reply.
Not always Davey. Not even most of the time today.
You're guilty of post forging, and you know it.
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/altatheism.html proves it.
Nope Davey your ALTERED TEXT does NOT.. Google proves the opposite.
Considering retaining Kenneth Pangborn of Palm Harbor, Florida as a trial
consultant? Read here first:
AH the REAL objective of DAVID DIPSHIT MOORE rears its ugly little head
again!
Hey DIPSHIT - I see you ADDED the grief newsgroup back. I deleted it AGAIN!
You are such a little prikk!
Looks like he has taken a leaf out of your book, doesn't it Mr Pangborn?
--
Love and Best Wishes,
Tripper
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: ATTENTION ATHEISTS |
21 Dec 2005 01:47:31 PM |
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In <N1fqf.629$2B5.462@trnddc01>, " KRP" <web2457k@verizon.net> wrote:
"Mark K. *****" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:4JmdnfGJGeNZWzXe4p2dnA@megapath.net...
RTEPOLYING to his GOD DAVID MOORE as:
CAPTAIN freedom" <aboutken@KRPaboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
HINTY HINT MARKIE:
This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services.
The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header
is unverified.
Some people, I would imagine, might chain through up to half a dozen
remailers depending on their security needs. In my case, I'm not doing
espionage or anything like that....simply looking to post without
people like Ken learning my ISP and flooding the abuse desk with
complaints.
Gee, you don't think he'd do *that do you?
If he is suffereing from Paranoia................
There is nothing to "investigate" far as the anonymous messages are
concerned. Nobody can determine who's sending them. That's the fucking
*point of using an anonymizer.
Except for cases when someone is forging through a remailer, and
forgets to switch back to their own ID. Then switches back and sends
the SAME message eight hours later. :)
Well, there is *that.
No Markie. BUT you are too STGUPID to know "that."
I mean in the way he makes so much of the headers. There's just "there"
there.
Mark IF you had the IQ to know how to read headers or have ANY even
tiny
remote idea of any part of their significance you might realize that there
IS some "there" there!
Look, twit boy, I actually run my own mail server. I have my own nntp
server chugging along over on that machine right over there. I write
scripts to process headers. I have the RFCs that *define* headers on
Usenet et al.
I kinda know how to read headers.
For eample as a MORON you don't know WHAT significance there is in
REFERENCE MESSAGE ID's have. Your eyes begin to glaze over and your
drooling down the front of your shirt starts. I know you'll never
uinderstand this because it is so FAR over that pointy little head of
yours... You see DIPSHIT - - IF this was an ORIGINAL post from me where
I just SLIPPED (as YOU believe) and posted the same FORGERY from MY system
there would be NO -- see if you can folow this .. there would be NO
message reference ID because it would be an ORIGINAL post.. Bet you can't
understand that. NOT A CHANCE IN HELL you'll grasp it. More likely a
goldfish could understand the theory of relativity Mark.
Not to mention that IF you look at MY post and TOTALLY put reference
ID
and complicated HEADERS out of the discussion - and you look at the actual
GOOGLE archives you just MIGHT see from the formatting that it was a REPLY
to a post that was mad earlier. Oh ***** ypou can't understanbd message
FORMATTING either! Here I am pissing in the wind again with an IGNORAMUS!
YAWN.
Hey, site the relevant RFC how 'bout?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
So much for that "storm of the century" excuse
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A3992495C
NO held hostage by oil corporations,
ANWR demanded as ransom
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J5C92195C
White House balks at spending on US citizens,
needs more billions for Iraq!
http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D93595C
(Tell me again how much we spent bailing out the S&Ls?)
http://www.nola.com
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| User: " KRP" |
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| Title: Re: ATTENTION ATHEISTS |
22 Dec 2005 10:44:37 AM |
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"Mark K. *****" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:epidndLEqf_TLDTeRVn-jQ@megapath.net...
HINTY HINT MARKIE:
This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services.
The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header
is unverified.
Some people, I would imagine, might chain through up to half a dozen
remailers depending on their security needs. In my case, I'm not doing
espionage or anything like that....simply looking to post without
people like Ken learning my ISP and flooding the abuse desk with
complaints.
Gee, you don't think he'd do *that do you?
If he is suffereing from Paranoia................
There is nothing to "investigate" far as the anonymous messages are
concerned. Nobody can determine who's sending them. That's the fucking
*point of using an anonymizer.
Except for cases when someone is forging through a remailer, and
forgets to switch back to their own ID. Then switches back and sends
the SAME message eight hours later. :)
Well, there is *that.
No Markie. BUT you are too STGUPID to know "that."
I mean in the way he makes so much of the headers. There's just "there"
there.
Mark IF you had the IQ to know how to read headers or have ANY even
tiny
remote idea of any part of their significance you might realize that
there
IS some "there" there!
Look, twit boy, I actually run my own mail server. I have my own nntp
server chugging along over on that machine right over there. I write
scripts to process headers. I have the RFCs that *define* headers on
Usenet et al.
That makes your actions even worse. DELIBERATE!
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| User: "freedom" |
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| Title: Re: ATTENTION ATHEISTS |
21 Dec 2005 09:10:43 AM |
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <429526e83995ba2ab46a65e442252303@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>,
"freedom" <aboutken@KRPaboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <OR2GAP0P38706.0511342593@anonymous.poster>,
anonymous@remailer.hastio.org wrote:
"Mark K. *****" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <UCGHPYDQ38705.6741435185@anonymous>, Anonymous
<BigappleRemailer@bigapple.yi.org> wrote:
Thank you Kate. I have observed the harassment Ken Pangborn has
suffered
WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! WHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
That's *funny!
--
Hey JERKOFF.......I guess you MISSED that Kate did her research on the
forgeries. And concluded that they were made by your GAY LOVER MOORE.
Mark still losing the battle with puberty I see.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services.
The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header
is unverified.
Lemme revisit this a moment dimwit. You've had trouble with this concept
before.
Short of an actual court order, there is no legal way to discover *who*
is sending the anonymous messages. And even *with a court order, it's
unlikely the origin of any past message could be discovered as many (if
not all) remailers don't keep logs (and that's provided they're even in
US jurisdiction which many are not).
There's also "chaining" to consider. Most of the time, anonymizing
software allows the sender to select multiple remailers to send a
message through. The software then encrypts for each remailer in the
chain. Therefore, even if the remailer I'm using right here (Frell) is
ordered to produce logs, and even if they have logs, all they're going
to see is that the message came from another remailer (Borked).
And as I recall, there's the whole "mixmaster" scheme that'll bounce
messages around anonymous servers for you.
I believe so, but haven't really explored that part of it. I use the
"cypherpunk" type of remailers, and then software which keeps the stats and
allows for chains.
Some people, I would imagine, might chain through up to half a dozen
remailers depending on their security needs. In my case, I'm not doing
espionage or anything like that....simply looking to post without people
like Ken learning my ISP and flooding the abuse desk with complaints.
Gee, you don't think he'd do *that do you?
Last time he knew my ISP, he sent them over 200 messages. I had a business
relationship with the head of the ISP, so to avoid issues I had him change
my account name. I also moved the site to aboutkenpangborn.com and went to
anonymity. "Dragoncon" was a decent service, but unfortunately it's
defunct.
There is nothing to "investigate" far as the anonymous messages are
concerned. Nobody can determine who's sending them. That's the fucking
*point of using an anonymizer.
Except for cases when someone is forging through a remailer, and forgets
to switch back to their own ID. Then switches back and sends the SAME
message eight hours later. :)
Well, there is *that.
I mean in the way he makes so much of the headers. There's just "there"
there.
I don't know if you followed any of the discussions which later came up
regarding his slipup. He tried to come up with excuse after excuse. His
Verizon post was forged....the timestamp on the forgery was altered....his
post was just a "quote", etc. The most entertaining part was when he tried
to redefine Greenwich Mean Time, throwing in circular arguments about
International Dateline. And just last week someone questioned him on that
situation, and he said something like "it's difficult to keep my story
straight, because of the fact that I didn't make the forgery." What kind
of logic is that?
DUH.
The funniest thing is that if it is Moore sending the anonymous
messages, Pangborn's his puppet, dancing to Moore's tune every time
Moore pulls his strings.
If it is Moore, my hat's off to him. I've never seen someone so utterly
reduce an opponent on Usenet to the status of trained poodle...
LOL....thanks....I think.
<G>
No, I'm not making the forgeries. Of course, I could be lying, because
as you pointed out, there is no real way to determine who the sender is
on any remailed message (unless it's signed with PGP.) I suppose if I
were "put on the witness stand" I would have to offer the following on
my behalf:
1. I've never had any beef or quarrel with anyone in the atheist group,
or any of the other groups which have been forged
While the forges here in a.a. started after he, himself, under his own
name and account, had a quite nasty run in with folks in a.a.
Funny that huh?
Coincidence, I'm sure.
I remember that he claimed that I was showing up "SECONDS LATER" to blame
him for the forgeries, from the "SAME REMAILER" and with the "NEXT MESSAGE
ID" in sequence. Still waiting for him to produce an example of that.
2. On at least one occasion, Pangborn was proven to have forged. (This
was actually the forgery of you, where he sent the same message 8 hours
later from his Verizon:
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/altatheism.html)
Oh I remember that one. <g>
3. He's been caught lying hundreds of times.
Of course, he can argue that I use remailers, the forger uses remailers.
By this logic, every time a pyramid scheme or phishing attack originates
from yahoo.com, all 100 million Yahoo users are responsible.
Yeah, the use of remailers tells us nothing one way or the other. The
things he finds "significant" are just... strange.
--
He sucks.
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"We need everything you've got"
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R2726554C
Forgotten Already
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H1233272C
Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O21E51C1C
http://www.nola.com
http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
Keywords: trial consultant,trial consulting,dads,fathers,ken
pangborn,kenneth pangborn,florida,palm
harbor,men,abuse,incest,rape,pedophile,teens,megan
pangborn,sanciprian,peggy pangborn,jay
holland,florida,tampa,cyberstalking,dean tong,david sharp,marina
taylor,florida lawyer,florida attorney,astc,american society of trial
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| User: " KRP" |
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| Title: Re: ATTENTION ATHEISTS |
21 Dec 2005 10:33:31 AM |
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"freedom" <aboutken@KRPaboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote in message
news:8f8dae5a17fd5142df6574e1c92eca18@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Last time he knew my ISP, he sent them over 200 messages. I had a
business
relationship with the head of the ISP, so to avoid issues I had him change
my account name. I also moved the site to aboutkenpangborn.com and went
to
anonymity. "Dragoncon" was a decent service, but unfortunately it's
defunct.
BS and he threw you off right before his legal problems in Atlanta. But
Davey did you forget that the Dragoncon addfess wa sone yourere VEHEMENTKLY
DENYING you had just a while ago? You really GOTTA do a better job of
keeping all your ID's straight.
I mean in the way he makes so much of the headers. There's just "there"
there.
I don't know if you followed any of the discussions which later came up
regarding his slipup. He tried to come up with excuse after excuse. His
Verizon post was forged....the timestamp on the forgery was altered....his
post was just a "quote", etc. The most entertaining part was when he
tried
to redefine Greenwich Mean Time, throwing in circular arguments about
International Dateline. And just last week someone questioned him on that
situation, and he said something like "it's difficult to keep my story
straight, because of the fact that I didn't make the forgery." What kind
of logic is that?
Yeah Davey don't confuse them with the FACT that MY post was a REPLY!!!
The AA morons don't know what that means, you'll only give Mr. ***** a
headache!
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| User: "Malibu Skipper" |
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| Title: Re: ATTENTION ATHEISTS |
21 Dec 2005 02:39:26 PM |
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KRP wrote:
BS and he threw you off right before his legal problems in Atlanta. But
Davey did you forget that the Dragoncon addfess wa sone yourere VEHEMENTKLY
Are you drunk, or are you posting in some obscure Norwegian dialect?
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| User: "Borked Pseudo Mailed" |
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| Title: Re: ATTENTION ATHEISTS |
21 Dec 2005 10:36:23 AM |
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"freedom" <aboutken@KRPaboutISkenApangbornFRAUD.com> wrote:
I don't know if you followed any of the discussions which later came up
regarding his slipup. He tried to come up with excuse after excuse. His
Verizon post was forged....the timestamp on the forgery was altered....his
post was just a "quote", etc. The most entertaining part was when he tried
to redefine Greenwich Mean Time, throwing in circular arguments about
International Dateline. And just last week someone questioned him on that
situation, and he said something like "it's difficult to keep my story
straight, because of the fact that I didn't make the forgery." What kind
of logic is that?
I have to agree with this paragraph. That "logic" you're referring to was
addressed to me, when I asked him for a good explanation of the facts. If
you're innocent of something, then you just explain what happened and
that's the end of it. The story should never need to change. It's that
simple.
I didn't go back into Google and dig up every time he told a different
story about this. I did see where he was trying to argue about the
Greenwich time, and that it meant the forgery came later. Then just last
week, yes he was saying it was altered. It's obvious that he has something
to hide with this. I've suggested that he chalk it up and move on, but he
seems to want to keep dragging it up.
Rich
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: ATTENTION ATHEISTS |
19 Dec 2005 07:55:37 PM |
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In <OR2GAP0P38706.0511342593@anonymous.poster>,
anonymous@remailer.hastio.org wrote:
"Mark K. *****" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <UCGHPYDQ38705.6741435185@anonymous>, Anonymous
<BigappleRemailer@bigapple.yi.org> wrote:
Thank you Kate. I have observed the harassment Ken Pangborn has
suffered
WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! WHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
That's *funny!
--
Hey JERKOFF.......I guess you MISSED that Kate did her research on the
forgeries. And concluded that they were made by your GAY LOVER MOORE.
Mark still losing the battle with puberty I see.
What part of "anonymous remailer" is confusing you?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"We need everything you've got"
http://makeashorterlink.com/?R2726554C
Forgotten Already
http://makeashorterlink.com/?H1233272C
Feds are treating Louisiana like enemy
"...it may be that they may have written us off."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O21E51C1C
http://www.nola.com
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| User: " KRP" |
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| Title: Re: ATTENTION ATHEISTS |
21 Dec 2005 09:50:09 AM |
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"Mark K. *****" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:B7ydnf6NR6sL-TrenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@megapath.net...
In <OR2GAP0P38706.0511342593@anonymous.poster>,
anonymous@remailer.hastio.org wrote:
"Mark K. *****" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In <UCGHPYDQ38705.6741435185@anonymous>, Anonymous
<BigappleRemailer@bigapple.yi.org> wrote:
Thank you Kate. I have observed the harassment Ken Pangborn has
suffered
WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! WHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
That's *funny!
--
Hey JERKOFF.......I guess you MISSED that Kate did her research on the
forgeries. And concluded that they were made by your GAY LOVER MOORE.
Mark still losing the battle with puberty I see.
What part of "anonymous remailer" is confusing you?
Seemingly Markie he is confused by the same part that confuses you!
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| User: "Syd M." |
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| Title: Re: ATTENTION ATHEISTS |
20 Dec 2005 08:20:43 AM |
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Mark K. Bilbo
anonym...@remailer.hastio.org wrote:
Thank you Kate. I have observed the harassment Ken Pangborn has
suffered
Oh, yeah.. Ken has really suffered, hasn't he?
WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! WHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
That's *funny!
That was my thought, yeah.
--
Hey JERKOFF.......I guess you MISSED that Kate did her research on the
forgeries. And concluded that they were made by your GAY LOVER MOORE.
Mark still losing the battle with puberty I see.
And you, Kenny Pangbum, is still losing the battle with reality, I
see..
What part of "anonymous remailer" is confusing you?
All of it.
PDW
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