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Religions > Atheism |
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"Nomen Nescio" |
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26 Feb 2004 11:30:15 PM |
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!ATTENTION EVERYONE IN THE NEWSGROUPS |
It has surfaced that JF Mezei has been issuing hundreds, if not thousands, of
rogue cancels. A quick check of control.cancel reveals he has been forging most
of the regular participants of the following newsgroups and cancelling their
posts:
rec.travel.air
rec.travel.europe
soc.culture.jewish
alt.gossip.celebrities
alt.politics.bush
alt.politics.homosexuality
alt.fan.howard-stern
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
rec.travel.usa-canada
alt.atheism
alt.bible
alt.tv.andromeda
rec.martial-arts
alt.religion.christian
alt.tasteless
comp.os.vms
can.internet.highspeed
alt.cellular.fido
and god knows how many other groups. If you are a regular contributor to any of
these groups chances are he has been cancelling your posts. Check
control.cancel for your name or posting ID. He forges people's names and e-mail
addresses to cancel them.
Read below on who this deranged psycho is and how to report him. Feel free to
pass this along to any other group you think may have been affected.
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FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
About
J F M E Z E I
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1. Who is JF Mezei?
Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever hit
rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups. He is also one of the
longest running trolls in usenet history.
2. How long has he been trolling?
For well over a decade.
3. Where does he live?
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Jean-Francois Mezei
86 Harwood Gate
Beaconsfield, QC H9W3A3
(514) 695-8259
His current e-mail address is
4. What makes him such a malicious troll?
His trolling is constant, repetitious, relentless. Once he invades your
newsgroup he will stay for decades, troll around the clock, day in and day out,
every day of the year, for years and years on end. He does not listen to pleas
to stop, he does not listen to anything anyone tells him, he does not pay
attention when the misinformation/disinformation he posts is corrected, he just
goes right on trolling year in, year out like a little child holding his ears
closed while yelling "I can't hear you, I can't hear anything you say!"
5. What does he troll about?
His favorite subjects are USA-bashing and anything to do with sex. He hates the
USA and Americans and will hijack any thread and turn it into a USA-bashing
fest. If he can't do that then he'll just start making lewd posts.
6. What does he hate about the USA?
Everything! He is part of a larger group of Canadian trolls who have a visceral
hatred of the USA, motivated by envy mostly. The USA is a happier, better, more
successful version of their country and they can't stand it. Some of JF's
favorite troll bait is "the Bush regime", "the Bush-Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz axis of
evil", "Americans are brainwashed", "Cars are evil", "SUVs are evil", "all
Americans are stupid" etc.
7. What about his sexual trolling?
Ah, that is JF at his trolling best. No sexual topic is too bizarre. Among his
favorites are child sexuality, masturbation, women's genitalia, sex toys,
circumcision, the sex lives of Americans (of course) ... the list is endless.
8. Circumcision???
Yes, JF trolled the circumcision newsgroups for years. He still likes to insert
circumcision into his trolling every now and then. Apparently, JF was
traumatized as a child because his parents, poor Hungarian immigrants to Canada,
left him uncircumcised when he was born, as is the custom in most of the world.
Growing up in Canada where male infant circumcision was prevalent at the time,
he was psychologically scarred (so he claims). As soon as he could he arranged
to get himself snipped, and then joined the brigades of circumcision
proselytizers in the newsgroups advocating the joys of a free willy. His main
argument is how much better he was able to masturbate after getting circumcised
without that "pesky foreskin" getting in the way of his enjoyment, and he has
made it his mission in life to spread the circumcision gospel.
9. What's his interest in child sexuality? That sounds kind of freaky.
Well, everything having to do with Mezei *is* freaky. Among the subjects dear
to his heart are the genitals of little boys and girls, especially little boy's
foreskins (and how tight they are) and little girls' hymens. He is also a
tireless activist and advocate that children should be taught to masturbate
early on so that they don't grow up "sexually repressed like Americans".
He also counsels all parents of boys that they constantly check their little
boys' penises and foreskins frequently to ensure a good fit, proper movement,
and that they be able to masturbate with no problems. Utopia for JF would be a
world full of parents manipulating their little boys' penises.
10. Ewww! This guy is sounding more and more disgusting by the minute! Are
you sure about all this stuff?
Yes, you can check the google archives for yourself. There's over a decade full
of Mezei trolling in there.
11. How can I find all that out, doesn't he change aliases all the time like
all trolls do?
Of course! See the appendix below for a list of many of his known trolling
aliases.
12. So where does this guy get so much time to troll, doesn't he work?
Ha ha ha! JF hasn't worked a day in his life! He's an adult baby, a grown man
who still lives at home with mommy and sleeps all day and trolls the newsgroups
all night. In his free time when he isn't trolling he likes to ride his bike
down to Dorval Airport and race the planes down the runway in his bike.
13. That seems strange, is he mentally ill or something?
Bingo! JF is a boy in a grown man's body. Psychologically he never got past
the age of 13 and got stuck in a world of bathroom humor (i.e. "pull my
finger!") and locker room antics that he has never been able to outgrow.
14. Speaking of locker rooms, I heard he has a sexual fetish about them, is
that true?
Yes! JF goes to the gym not to work out but to watch men in the locker room.
He loves to post about the male sexual organs he has seen in locker rooms over
the years, especially his unnatural obsession with foreskins. He stalks the men
in locker rooms trying to measure how much foreskin they have, or how little is
left if they have been circumcised. He gets extremely excited when he spots a
case of phimosis.
15. Oh my Gawd, this guy is nuts! He should be locked up in an insane asylum!
Yep, JF is certifiably insane. He lives in a black helicopter / tin foil hat
world where others are out to get him. The key to understanding JF is that he
sees himself as a VICTIM. To JF the world is out to get him, especially the
USA. Victimhood is what JF is all about.
What seems to have sent him over the edge was when the Canadian rail system was
"killed", in his words. He used to be a major train nut, spotting trains,
writing down their numbers and chasing them down at the train yard like a good
freak. Then he turned his attention to aviation. Major events that made him
fall head first deep into the abyss were the bankruptcy of Canadian Airlines and
their subsequent takeover by Air Canada (whom he sees as evil). So paranoid is
he that when an Air Canada plane crashed he claimed that Air Canada employees
went lurking about in the night with buckets of white paint to cover up the Air
Canada markings. He saw that as symbolic of a cover up of the crash
investigation. He has never recovered from this.
16. Where else does he hang out, I want to avoid him!
His main haunt on usenet is comp.os.vms, a newsgroup dedicated to some ancient,
arcane, obsolete piece of vax crapware that nobody has taken seriously for
decades. JF hangs out there with other misfits and social dropouts who share
his psychological traumas, crying for the good old vax days of yore. It's
really pathetic!
17. Where else does he hang out?
can.internet.highspeed, alt.cellular.fido, and a few other geeky computer
groups. For a while after the Shuttle Columbia disaster he invaded the
sci.space groups, sci.space.shuttle in particular, and trolled it relentlessly
with the anti-American, conspiracy theory crap he's so famous for. But they ran
him off that group and he had to go crawling back to comp.os.vms with his tail
between his legs, licking his wounds.
18. It sounds like comp.os.vms is the only group he respects and doesn't troll.
Pretty much. For a megatroll like JF it's impossible not to troll, so he slips
in troll bait every now and then, but by and large he respects comp.os.vms, and,
more importantly, he tries to hide his trolling activities from them so they
won't find out what a major netkook he is.
19. Wow, sounds like he should be exposed so they will know what kind of psycho
he is!
Exactly. Feel free to post all his trolls to comp.os.vms. And while you're at
it post them to can.internet.highspeed and alt.cellular.fido too. And to
alt.usenet.kooks, a group for the likes of JF, and news.admin.net-abuse.usenet.
20. What else can I do? Is there an abuse address?
Yes, you should send complaints along with copies of his troll posts to:
abuse@sympatico.ca
abuse@bellglobal.com
abuse@istop.com
And feel free to distribute this FAQ freely. Post it to newsgroups, email it to
people, you may host it at your own website, send it to newspapers and magazines
that do Internet articles or anything to do with Montreal or Canada, etc.
*** APPENDIX ***
List of some of the many trolling aliases used by Mezei over the years. This is
only a partial list, he has so many it's impossible to compile a full list.
jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com
jfmezei@videotron.ca
jfmezei@vl.videotron.ca
nospam.jfmezei@videotron.ca
"jfmezei"@videotron.ca[nospam]
nobody <nobody@nobody.com>
nobody <nobody@nobody.net>
nobody <nobody@nobody.org>
nobody <nobody@nobody.info>
nobody <nobody@nobody.int>
nobody <nobody@nothing.nil>
nobody <nobody@null.dev>
muklak <muklak@eskimo.net>
Sheep skin <sheep@station.au>
snowy squirrel <squirrel@nest.tree>
Conspiracy Theory <conspiracy@theory.org>
Lou Raccoon <L.Raccoon@wilderness.org>
Flapping Labias <flabia@anatomy.org>
Throbbing vulva <t.vulva@anatomy.org>
Twin Gonads <two@gonads.com>
Loose Scrotum <l.scrotum@anatomy.org>
Raised Organ <R.Organ@anatomy.org>
Popped Cherry <P.Cherry@anatomy.org>
Monica Lewinski <billclinton@westchester.com>
Deep Fried Foreskin <dff@mcdonalds.com>
Aroma of Smegma <aroma@chanel.org>
Wet fart <w.Fart@smell.org>
Pubic dandruff <P.dandruff@anatomy.org>
Voluptuous Nipple <V.nipple@anatomy.org>
Inserted Finger <I.Finger@anatomy.org>
Pubic Nair <shaved@anatomy.org>
Flatulent Meatus <F.Meatus@anatomy.org>
Lihk Mhygroin <L.MyGroin@anatomy.org>
Pre Khum <P.Khum@anatomy.org>
Phi Mosis <Phi.Mosis@anatomy.org>
Bal Anatis <Bal.Anatis@anatomy.org>
Fren Ullum <F.Ullum@anatomy.org>
Ivanna Getlaid <I.Getlaid@onani.org>
Ivanna Wankalot <I.Wankalot@onani.org>
Ivanna Umpalot <Humpalot@drevil.com>
Wan Tnoneofit <W.Tnoneofit@weirdnames.org>
Wan Itbad <W.Itbad@inneed.org>
Wan Towank <W.ToWank@anatomy.org>
Wan Tolik <w.tolik@anatomy.org>
Testos Terone <t.terone@anatomy.org>
Upper Gonad <U.Gonad@anatomy.org>
Right Gonad <R.Gonad@anatomy.org>
Left Gonad <L.Gonad@anatomy.org>
Tyson's Glands <Tyson.G@anatomy.org>
Nose Hair <n.hair@anatomy.org>
Coronal Sulcus <C.Sulcus@anatomy.org>
Corpus Cavernus <manhood@anatomy.org>
Armpit moisture <armpit@anatomy.org>
Onani Room <onani@hotels.com>
Arnie's Banana <weiner@terminator.com>
Raised eyebrows <r.eyebrows@anatomy.org>
Vas Deferens <V.deferens@anatomy.org>
Naked Canuck <N.canuck@naturists.org>
Arni's socks <Smelly.Socks@arnold.org>
Notable Exception <N.exception@untied.com>
Unpopped Cherry <U.Cherry@anatomy.org>
Tatooed Ovaries <T.Ovaries@anatomy.org>
Pierced eyelid <p.eyelid@piercings.org>
Limp Tomato <limp.tomato@vegetables.org>
Eggplant Earrings <e.earrings@piercings.org>
Banana Underpants <B.Underpants@hillfiger.org>
Naval Lint <navel@lint.mil>
Ingrown Toenail <i.toenail@anatomy.org>
Empty Stomach <E.Stomach@anatomy.org>
Full Stomach <f.stomach@anatomy.org>
Smelly Cat <S.Cat@friends.nbc.com>
Torn Ligament <T.Ligament@anatomy.org>
Art Tistic <A.Tistic@modern.museum>
Furry Raccoon <F.Raccoon@wilderness.org>
Wet Racoon <W.Racoon@wildnerness.org>
Mad Racoon <M.Racoon@wildlife.org>
Lazy Racoon <L.Racoon@wilderness.org>
Eaten Racoon <E.Raccoon@mcdonalds.com>
Happy Raccoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org>
Sleeping Racoon <S.Racoon@wilderness.org>
Hungry Racoon <H.Racoon@wilderness.org>
Horny Raccoon <H.Racoon@fauna.org>
Smart Raccoon <S.Raccoon@wilderness.org>
George W Raccoon <GW.Raccoon@wilderness.org>
Ronald McRaccoon <r.raccoon@wilderness.org>
Thirsty Raccoon <T.Raccoon@wilderness.org>
Johnny Raccoon <J.Racoon@wilderness.org>
Oshi Santo <O.Santo@nx01.starfleet.org>
Oishi Chinko <O.Chinko@nx01.starfleet.org>
T.Yellow <T.Yellow@nowhere.com>
Q <queue@continuum.net>
Borg Queen <1of1@borg.org>
Ronald Wilkerson <wilkersonr@sympatico.ca>
John Balterman <j.balterman@sympatico.ca>
*DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY*
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| User: "Stormin Mormon" |
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| Title: Re: !ATTENTION EVERYONE IN THE NEWSGROUPS |
05 Apr 2004 06:58:24 AM |
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Field Guide to Forum Trolls
A Troll is a bulletin-board participant who posts for one or both of two
reasons: 1) to disrupt; 2) to gain attention.
THE MAJOR BREEDS
The Vulgar Troll
These, the crudest of all trolls, make no attempt to hide their species.
Often, they make racist comments, or they may post porn and other Spam.
Vulgars usually confine their comments merely to primitive, profane,
off-topic
observations. When you log into the 'Really Profound Serious Philosophical
Discussions' board and see the post, "I smell my farts," you've spotted the
Vulgar Troll. Other species of troll sometimes revert to this form when
cornered.
The Deceptive or "Classic" Troll
More sophisticated but often easily identified and exposed, the Classic
Troll
gratifies his ego by pretending to be someone or something he or she is not.
Classics make up elaborate stories about themselves, sometimes weaving some
amounts of truth into their lies. As a web of lies is difficult to build
with
consistency, however, Classics are often "outed" by other forumites. When
this
happens, Classic Trolls have a bag of tricks to which they turn:
-Classic Troll Tactic #1: If the heat gets too much for you, claim it was
all
"a joke." In this way you can excuse any and all deceit by claiming people
just weren't smart enough to "get" the humor of it.
-Classic Troll Tactic #2: Create another account, and log on pretending to
be
someone else, in order to show support for the Troll in Question (TiQ).
These
puppet accounts sometimes claim to be disinterested third parties. At other
times they pretend to be "friends" of the TiQ.
-Classic Troll Tactic #3: When your lies paint you into a corner, claim that
your little brother, or some unnamed friend, has commandeered your account
and
made you look foolish. This technique can also be applied in claiming that
the
puppet account(s) you created may not, in fact, be disinterested third
parties
or friends, but that they are your relatives ("little brother" is most
common)
only trying to help support you.
-Classic Troll Tactic #4: When nothing else works, claim that now, finally,
you're telling the truth about all the lies you told before. Make up a fresh
set of lies, and throw yourself on the mercy of the forumites.
-Classic Troll Tactic #5: When all else fails, claim to be leaving forever.
Trolls who claim they are leaving never do, of course; you can bet that
anyone
who proclaims, "I'm never coming back here," will most certainly at least
check back for responses, and probably will not be able to resist posting
again.
-Classic Troll Tactic #6: Have a tantrum. When all their other tricks are
exhausted, Classic Trolls will become angry and start shouting. Often they
revert to Vulgar Trolls when this happens.
The Contrarian Troll
A sophisticated breed, Contrarian Trolls frequent boards whose predominant
opinions are contrary to their own. A forum dominated by those who support
firearms and knife rights, for example, will invariably be visited by
Contrarian Trolls espousing their beliefs in the benefits of gun control. It
is important to distinguish between dissenters and actual Contrarian Trolls,
however; the Contrarian is not categorized as a troll because of his or her
dissenting opinions, but due to the manner in which he or she behaves:
-Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #1: The most important indicator of a
poster's
Contrarian Troll status is his constant use of subtle and not-so-subtle
insults, a technique intended to make people angry. Contrarians will resist
the urge to be insulting at first, but as their post count increases, they
become more and more abusive of those with whom they disagree. Most often
they
initiate the insults in the course of what has been a civil, if heated,
debate
to that point.
-Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #2: Constant references to the forum
membership
as monolithic. "You guys are all just [descriptor]." "You're a lynch mob."
"You all just want to ridicule anyone who disagrees with you."
-Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #3: Intellectual dishonesty. This is only a
mild indicator that is not limited to trolls, but Contrarians display it to
a
high degree. They will lie about things they've said, pull posts out of
context in a manner that changes their meanings significantly, and generally
ignore any points for which they have no ready answers.
-Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #4: Accusing the accusers. When confronted
with
their trolling, trolls immediately respond that it is the accusers who are
trolls (see Natural Predators below). Often the Contrarian will single out
his
most vocal opponent and claim that while he can respect his other opponents,
this one in particular is beneath his notice.
-Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #5: Attempts to condescend. Pursued by Troll
Bashers (see Natural Predators below), the Contrarian will seek refuge in
condescending remarks that repeatedly scorn his or her critics as beneath
notice, all the while continuing to respond to them.
-Contrarian Troll Warning Sign #6: One distinctive mark of Contrarian Trolls
is that every thread in which they dissent quickly devolves into a debate
about who is trolling whom. In the course of such a debate the Contrarian
will
display many of the other Warning Signs mentioned above.
The Agenda Troll
Agenda trolls are those participants who join a forum specifically to pursue
an agenda of their own, often a feud or grudge with another member, or
perhaps
a dispute with some party not participating in that forum. When a flame war
erupts on another board, for example, Agenda Trolls will follow their
opponents to other forums in order to continue the spat.
-Some Agenda Trolls are subject-matter oriented. An Agenda Troll who thinks
Self-Defense Instructor X is a fraud, or who feels he has been ripped off or
otherwise dealt with unfairly by Instructor X, will visit forums devoted to
self-defense and martial arts in order to spread his or her negative opinion
of Instructor X.
-Agenda Trolls may also be of the milder Spam Agenda subspecies; these are
Trolls who join a board specifically to advertise some venture of their own.
They are not often troublesome, though their shameless plugging is met with
varying degrees of irritation.
Sophist Trolls
Sophist Trolls, or "philotrolls," fancy themselves Enlightened Philosophers
or
Learned Experts of the highest order. Often well educated, Philotrolls are
capable of speaking intelligently on a number of topics, and when the spirit
moves them they can be worthwhile forum participants. Unfortunately, Sophist
Trolls are an extremely hostile and intolerant species.
-When confronted by opinions with which they do not agree, particularly when
they do not see any means of successfully arguing their contrary views,
Sophists resort (repeatedly) to a variety of intellectually dishonest
tactics.
Most often, this is characterized by an overly snide, condescending,
patronizing attitude. Philotrolls consider anyone with whom they do not
agree
to be "immature," and are fond of quoting that old saw that "A little
knowledge is a dangerous thing."
-When cornered they are quick to resort to personal attacks, A philotroll's
bag of rhetorical tricks includes a variety of transparent ploys, such as
willfully misinterpreting the opponent's words, committing Straw Man
fallacies, accusing his or her opponents of engaging in the very tactics
used
by the philotroll, and so forth.
-When engaging in their sophistry, philotrolls are among the most
hypocritical
and aggravating of Trollkind.
The Artistic Troll
A higher species of Classic Troll, Artistic Trolls are intelligent
individuals
who understand the subtle art of trolling, and who do what they do
specifically to make others look foolish. Often employing the techniques of
Deceptive Trolls, Artistics will string forumites along until some point in
time designated by their own desires, at which point they will reveal the
ploy, admit that it was a ploy, and laugh at everyone for being stupid
enough
to fall for it. Artistic Trolls delight in sowing discord, but do it in a
highly developed and fully aware manner. They do not care if they are
despised, and do not seek the approval of forum participants. Chaos is their
only goal, and preferably chaos with a humorous bent to it. Without a doubt,
this is the most dangerous species.
TROLL SPOTTING
Trolls often have many basic characteristics in common:
1. Low post count. Trolls often do not last long enough on a forum to rack
up
a large number of posts. Be particularly suspicious of any poster whose
count
is not yet in double digits and who appears to be causing trouble.
2. High post count. Other Trolls flood a forum with so many posts of their
own, especially when they are able to turn the subject onto one that they
like, that long-time regular members begin to leave or complain to the
Moderator.
3. Suspicious IP addresses. Puppet accounts will have IP addresses identical
to that of the TiQ.
4. Suspicious email Addresses. Accounts that are similar in nature to those
of
the TiQ can indicate a puppet account. AOL accounts, for example, are
particularly suspect, because AOL allows up to five usernames for a single
account.
5. Suspicious Reptition. Trolls often repeat key phrases or entire diatribes
of their pet propaganda, attempting to turn the subject onto one that they
can
control.
6. Syntax and grammar. Trolls, particularly Deceptives, invariably have
trouble hiding their writing styles. Puppet accounts, or serial accounts
created after previous accounts have been thoroughly discredited, will
display
traits similar to that of the TiQ.
NATURAL PREDATORS
Trolls have certain naturally-occurring enemies. Among them are these:
Moderators. An active moderator is the bane of Trollkind, as a moderator can
lock a troll's efforts before they come to fruition, see to it the troll is
banned, and generally make the troll's existence unfulfilling. Moderators
are
normally above more direct efforts to humiliate or expose trolls, which
makes
them ultimately more dangerous but less intimidating to all breeds.
Troll Bashers. The worst enemy of trolls, Troll Bashers appear to possess an
almost pathological hatred for trolls. Fully aware of the tools and tactics
of
trolling, Troll Bashers expose trolls whenever they see them. Often the
first
to identify Contrarians, and unforgiving in the pursuit of Deceptives, Troll
Bashers are experienced and venomous. Often accused of being trolls
themselves, Troll Bashers understand the difference between the initiation
of
trolling and the retaliation against it, and believe any amount of
retaliatory
abuse is justified when a troll rears its ugly head.
Angry Forumites. Though normally slow to anger, and lacking the venom of
Troll
Bashers, angry forumites can pose a danger to Trollkind when they gather in
groups. While it takes three to five Angry Forumites to equal the danger
represented by a single Troll Basher, they are not to be underestimated.
--originally posted by Nasty Habit of TexasMinutemen.org, 5/28/2003
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| User: "BolleZijde" |
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| Title: Re: !ATTENTION EVERYONE IN THE NEWSGROUPS |
08 Apr 2004 05:47:54 PM |
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"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61-#spamblock*-@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:c4ris0$2mce55$1@ID-216852.news.uni-berlin.de...
<all snipped>
Think I like your writings, haven't read all but will do in time.
Have you noticed you are cross-posting in groups that
are probebely not interested in your post?
Trolls are best ignored or asked to explain themselves,
they can't you know, as they have no motives.
I think I like this group, alltough it is very busy.
Enough.
Bolle Zijde
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| User: "lab~rat" |
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| Title: Re: !ATTENTION EVERYONE IN THE NEWSGROUPS |
05 Apr 2004 11:27:17 AM |
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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 07:58:24 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61-#spamblock*-@hotmail.com> puked:
Field Guide to Forum Trolls
<snip>
Who needs this information?
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
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| User: "BolleZijde" |
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| Title: Re: !ATTENTION EVERYONE IN THE NEWSGROUPS |
08 Apr 2004 05:10:52 PM |
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"lab~rat" <chase@cheese.net> schreef in bericht
news:6l13709dgs5bqqdog7372n6c64sgjo392u@4ax.com...
<snip>
Who needs this information?
I do.
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
Both, please explain your doubts to us.
Bolle Zijde
BTW: I have noticed your cross-posting you stupid
assholed *****. Go smoke your crack in your
own home and keep it there.
You are a very good example of what is described
in the document you reacted upon, you should
be filtered out, or banned.
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