Religions > Atheism > Attn: Atheists & Skeptics - What's wrong with answersingenesis.com?
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"Jim Spaza" |
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10 Jun 2005 04:20:04 PM |
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Attn: Atheists & Skeptics - What's wrong with answersingenesis.com? |
This challenge was issued by GlennGlenn (655321) -- aa#825.
What is wrong with the Christian apologetic website
www.answersingenesis.com ???
Please be courteous and specific.
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| User: "Deep Thought" |
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| Title: Re: Attn: Atheists & Skeptics - What's wrong with answersingenesis.com? |
27 Jun 2005 05:52:33 PM |
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"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
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On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:41:39 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <JuCdnbMgjv7Xp13fRVn-hw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
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On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:10:54 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <9ZOdnZ4nur6CtV3fRVn-iw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" :
What in the world ...?
Nothing 'in the world',
Let me know when you are able to defend your statements.
It's not any statement of mine that is the issue here, moron,
we were discussing Spaz's alleged 'spiritual
dimension called Heaven' when you rushed in here to aid Spaz by trying to
create a diversion, change the subject to take the heat off him.
I was discussing your claim ...
It's not any statement or claim of mine that is the issue here, moron,
we were discussing Spaz's alleged 'spiritual
dimension called Heaven' when you rushed in here to aid Spaz by trying to
create a diversion, change the subject to take the heat off him.
"The Fallacies of Diversion : The fallacies in this family share the
characteristic that they distract attention away from the issue that is
genuinely under discussion." --
http://www.cuyamaca.net/bruce.thompson/Fallacies/diversion.asp
Now, do you have anything to say about the issue genuinely under discussion,
Spaz's alleged "spiritual dimension called Heaven"
of which he cannot produce any evidence?
"Jim Spaza" "
The short answer is that God exists in a spiritual dimension called
Heaven.
That begs the question of the existence of the "spiritual".
Yes.
Begging the question (taking it for granted that some statement is true when
there is no proof it is true) is logical fallacy, knucklehead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
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| User: "Virgil" |
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| Title: Re: Attn: Atheists & Skeptics - What's wrong with answersingenesis.com? |
29 Jun 2005 12:45:19 AM |
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In article <z6ydnbe7QrqvHl3fRVn-1w@comcast.com>,
"Deep Thought" <dt@algia.org> wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:rkf0c112hdkpaptlbtc9uq2qorf5svpu04@4ax.com...
On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:41:39 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <JuCdnbMgjv7Xp13fRVn-hw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:4fb0c1d3dkqu0g3sc6cflibg9b4eap80on@4ax.com...
On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:10:54 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <9ZOdnZ4nur6CtV3fRVn-iw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" :
What in the world ...?
Nothing 'in the world',
Let me know when you are able to defend your statements.
It's not any statement of mine that is the issue here
Sure it is! All sorts of statements and claims and assertions and
arguments by Simple Septic are at issue here.
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Attn: Atheists & Skeptics - What's wrong with answersingenesis.com? |
27 Jun 2005 06:10:16 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:52:33 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <z6ydnbe7QrqvHl3fRVn-1w@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:rkf0c112hdkpaptlbtc9uq2qorf5svpu04@4ax.com...
On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:41:39 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <JuCdnbMgjv7Xp13fRVn-hw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:4fb0c1d3dkqu0g3sc6cflibg9b4eap80on@4ax.com...
On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:10:54 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <9ZOdnZ4nur6CtV3fRVn-iw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" :
What in the world ...?
Nothing 'in the world',
Let me know when you are able to defend your statements.
It's not any statement of mine that is the issue here, moron,
we were discussing Spaz's alleged 'spiritual
dimension called Heaven' when you rushed in here to aid Spaz by trying to
create a diversion, change the subject to take the heat off him.
I was discussing your claim ...
It's not any statement or claim of mine that is the issue here
Is too.
--
Matt Silberstein
I needed a drink, I needed a lot of life insurance, I needed a vacation, I needed a home in the country. What I had was a coat, a hat and a gun.
Raymond Chandler
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| User: "Ricky Ticket" |
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| Title: Re: Attn: Atheists & Skeptics - What's wrong with answersingenesis.com? |
25 Jun 2005 10:37:10 PM |
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On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 8:16:52 -0400, Matt Silberstein wrote
(in message <hkiqb1hjc4igs2kc898s0tpob8qnb08b42@4ax.com>):
Telling me what I was trying to do is rather useless. I have a much
better idea of my intentions than you do.
You're not as deep as you want to appear in your internet juggling act and
you can't begin to explain the needy mindset that creates imaginary friends.
:o)
So we get a dog and pony show. :o)
::eats popcorn::
--
"Anytime an inmate escapes, it is justification for deadly force." --Osprey
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Attn: Atheists & Skeptics - What's wrong with answersingenesis.com? |
23 Jun 2005 02:50:14 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:02:32 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <O6adne80KO7emibfRVn-vA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:h81mb1dnkfll3amknfnlkju7vdvgjr1vq6@4ax.com...
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:25:50 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <ROWdnT1pL4Y0YyffRVn-jw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Jim Spaza" <spaza9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1119541321.533052.26430@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Deep Thought wrote:
"Jim Spaza" "
The short answer is that God exists in a spiritual dimension called
Heaven.
That begs the question of the existence of the "spiritual".
Yes.
Begging the question (taking it for granted that some statement is true
when
there is no proof it is true) is logical fallacy, knucklehead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
Oooh. Name calling, just like in grade school. Perhaps if you were to
consider that others are not as brilliant and logical as you are, then
you might have mercy on those beneath your caliber of intellectual
prowess and maturity. Thanks.
Begging the question is still logical fallacy, knucklehead. Didn't your
daddy teach you the basics?
So is ad hominem. A rhetorical one as well.
You have not established the existence of what you call, "a spiritual
dimension called Heaven" you are begging the question, knucklehead, and
begging the question (taking it for granted that some statement is true
when
there is no proof it is true) is still logical fallacy, knucklehead. Start
acting like a grownup who knows the basics and you will be treated like
one.
Would you like me to identify the problems with the above paragraph?
Don't try to change the subject, knucklehead. That's just another form of
fallacy of diversion.
"The Fallacies of Diversion : The fallacies in this family share the
characteristic that they distract attention away from the issue that is
genuinely under discussion." --
http://www.cuyamaca.net/bruce.thompson/Fallacies/diversion.asp
The issue here is your fellow knucklehead, Spazza taking for granted
(begging the question) the existence of a "spiritual dimension called
Heaven" when there is no such thing in evidence, knucklehead.
I guess you know about logical and rhetorical fallacies, you seem so
good at using them.
--
Matt Silberstein
All in all, if I could be any animal, I would want to be
a duck or a goose. They can fly, walk, and swim. Plus,
there there is a certain satisfaction knowing that at the
end of your life you will taste good with an orange sauce
or, in the case of a goose, a chestnut stuffing.
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| User: "Deep Thought" |
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| Title: Re: Attn: Atheists & Skeptics - What's wrong with answersingenesis.com? |
23 Jun 2005 04:16:10 PM |
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"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:9i4mb1tb0f83u425gigae31uu29odoqfpd@4ax.com...
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:02:32 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <O6adne80KO7emibfRVn-vA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:h81mb1dnkfll3amknfnlkju7vdvgjr1vq6@4ax.com...
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:25:50 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <ROWdnT1pL4Y0YyffRVn-jw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Jim Spaza" <spaza9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1119541321.533052.26430@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Deep Thought wrote:
"Jim Spaza" "
The short answer is that God exists in a spiritual dimension
called
Heaven.
That begs the question of the existence of the "spiritual".
Yes.
Begging the question (taking it for granted that some statement is
true
when
there is no proof it is true) is logical fallacy, knucklehead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
Oooh. Name calling, just like in grade school. Perhaps if you were
to
consider that others are not as brilliant and logical as you are, then
you might have mercy on those beneath your caliber of intellectual
prowess and maturity. Thanks.
Begging the question is still logical fallacy, knucklehead. Didn't your
daddy teach you the basics?
So is ad hominem. A rhetorical one as well.
You have not established the existence of what you call, "a spiritual
dimension called Heaven" you are begging the question, knucklehead, and
begging the question (taking it for granted that some statement is true
when
there is no proof it is true) is still logical fallacy, knucklehead.
Start
acting like a grownup who knows the basics and you will be treated like
one.
Would you like me to identify the problems with the above paragraph?
Don't try to change the subject, knucklehead. That's just another form of
fallacy of diversion.
"The Fallacies of Diversion : The fallacies in this family share the
characteristic that they distract attention away from the issue that is
genuinely under discussion." --
http://www.cuyamaca.net/bruce.thompson/Fallacies/diversion.asp
The issue here is your fellow knucklehead, Spazza taking for granted
(begging the question) the existence of a "spiritual dimension called
Heaven" when there is no such thing in evidence, knucklehead.
I guess you know about logical and rhetorical fallacies, you seem so
good at using them.
Now you resort to tu quoque (you too) fallacy. It occurs if you argue that
an action is acceptable because your opponent has performed it.
http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#tuquoque
Now compare calling a knucklehead a knucklehead with the fallacy of taking
for granted (begging the question) the existence of a "spiritual dimension
called Heaven" when there is no such thing in evidence. Are you saying that
both are equally serious infractions?
Now why don't you stop trying to change the subject, knucklehead? Didn't
your daddy teach you that's just another form of
fallacy of diversion.
"The Fallacies of Diversion : The fallacies in this family share the
characteristic that they distract attention away from the issue that is
genuinely under discussion." --
http://www.cuyamaca.net/bruce.thompson/Fallacies/diversion.asp
The issue here is your fellow knucklehead, Spazza taking for granted
(begging the question) the existence of a "spiritual dimension called
Heaven" when there is no such thing in evidence, knucklehead.
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| User: "Virgil" |
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24 Jun 2005 12:14:47 AM |
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In article <fdCdnYirsZ4IuybfRVn-oA@comcast.com>,
"Deep Thought" <dt@algia.org> wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:9i4mb1tb0f83u425gigae31uu29odoqfpd@4ax.com...
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:02:32 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <O6adne80KO7emibfRVn-vA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:h81mb1dnkfll3amknfnlkju7vdvgjr1vq6@4ax.com...
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:25:50 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <ROWdnT1pL4Y0YyffRVn-jw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Jim Spaza" <spaza9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1119541321.533052.26430@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Deep Thought wrote:
"Jim Spaza" "
The short answer is that God exists in a spiritual dimension
called
Heaven.
That begs the question of the existence of the "spiritual".
Yes.
Begging the question (taking it for granted that some statement is
true
when
there is no proof it is true) is logical fallacy, knucklehead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
Oooh. Name calling, just like in grade school. Perhaps if you were
to
consider that others are not as brilliant and logical as you are, then
you might have mercy on those beneath your caliber of intellectual
prowess and maturity. Thanks.
Begging the question is still logical fallacy, knucklehead. Didn't your
daddy teach you the basics?
So is ad hominem. A rhetorical one as well.
You have not established the existence of what you call, "a spiritual
dimension called Heaven" you are begging the question, knucklehead, and
begging the question (taking it for granted that some statement is true
when
there is no proof it is true) is still logical fallacy, knucklehead.
Start
acting like a grownup who knows the basics and you will be treated like
one.
Would you like me to identify the problems with the above paragraph?
Don't try to change the subject, knucklehead. That's just another form of
fallacy of diversion.
"The Fallacies of Diversion : The fallacies in this family share the
characteristic that they distract attention away from the issue that is
genuinely under discussion." --
http://www.cuyamaca.net/bruce.thompson/Fallacies/diversion.asp
The issue here is your fellow knucklehead, Spazza taking for granted
(begging the question) the existence of a "spiritual dimension called
Heaven" when there is no such thing in evidence, knucklehead.
I guess you know about logical and rhetorical fallacies, you seem so
good at using them.
Now you resort to tu quoque (you too) fallacy. It occurs if you argue that
an action is acceptable because your opponent has performed it.
http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#tuquoque
Now compare calling a knucklehead a knucklehead with the fallacy of taking
for granted (begging the question) the existence of a "spiritual dimension
called Heaven" when there is no such thing in evidence. Are you saying that
both are equally serious infractions?
No! The knucklehead infraction and Simple Septic's similar ad hominems,
among his many other standard fallacies, are worse, because so much more
frequent.
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Attn: Atheists & Skeptics - What's wrong with answersingenesis.com? |
23 Jun 2005 09:40:20 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:16:10 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <fdCdnYirsZ4IuybfRVn-oA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:9i4mb1tb0f83u425gigae31uu29odoqfpd@4ax.com...
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:02:32 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <O6adne80KO7emibfRVn-vA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:h81mb1dnkfll3amknfnlkju7vdvgjr1vq6@4ax.com...
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:25:50 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <ROWdnT1pL4Y0YyffRVn-jw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Jim Spaza" <spaza9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1119541321.533052.26430@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Deep Thought wrote:
"Jim Spaza" "
The short answer is that God exists in a spiritual dimension
called
Heaven.
That begs the question of the existence of the "spiritual".
Yes.
Begging the question (taking it for granted that some statement is
true
when
there is no proof it is true) is logical fallacy, knucklehead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
Oooh. Name calling, just like in grade school. Perhaps if you were
to
consider that others are not as brilliant and logical as you are, then
you might have mercy on those beneath your caliber of intellectual
prowess and maturity. Thanks.
Begging the question is still logical fallacy, knucklehead. Didn't your
daddy teach you the basics?
So is ad hominem. A rhetorical one as well.
You have not established the existence of what you call, "a spiritual
dimension called Heaven" you are begging the question, knucklehead, and
begging the question (taking it for granted that some statement is true
when
there is no proof it is true) is still logical fallacy, knucklehead.
Start
acting like a grownup who knows the basics and you will be treated like
one.
Would you like me to identify the problems with the above paragraph?
Don't try to change the subject, knucklehead. That's just another form of
fallacy of diversion.
"The Fallacies of Diversion : The fallacies in this family share the
characteristic that they distract attention away from the issue that is
genuinely under discussion." --
http://www.cuyamaca.net/bruce.thompson/Fallacies/diversion.asp
The issue here is your fellow knucklehead, Spazza taking for granted
(begging the question) the existence of a "spiritual dimension called
Heaven" when there is no such thing in evidence, knucklehead.
I guess you know about logical and rhetorical fallacies, you seem so
good at using them.
Now you resort to tu quoque (you too) fallacy.
Gad, no. I am just making fun of you. No fallacy because I am not ever
trying for an argument. You were silly and I am having fun.
It occurs if you argue that
an action is acceptable because your opponent has performed it.
http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#tuquoque
Now compare calling a knucklehead a knucklehead with the fallacy of taking
for granted (begging the question) the existence of a "spiritual dimension
called Heaven" when there is no such thing in evidence. Are you saying that
both are equally serious infractions?
Now why don't you stop trying to change the subject, knucklehead? Didn't
your daddy teach you that's just another form of
fallacy of diversion.
"The Fallacies of Diversion : The fallacies in this family share the
characteristic that they distract attention away from the issue that is
genuinely under discussion." --
http://www.cuyamaca.net/bruce.thompson/Fallacies/diversion.asp
The issue here is your fellow knucklehead, Spazza taking for granted
(begging the question) the existence of a "spiritual dimension called
Heaven" when there is no such thing in evidence, knucklehead.
As the man said, I like him, he's silly.
--
Matt Silberstein
All in all, if I could be any animal, I would want to be
a duck or a goose. They can fly, walk, and swim. Plus,
there there is a certain satisfaction knowing that at the
end of your life you will taste good with an orange sauce
or, in the case of a goose, a chestnut stuffing.
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| User: "Deep Thought" |
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| Title: Re: Attn: Atheists & Skeptics - What's wrong with answersingenesis.com? |
23 Jun 2005 10:06:00 PM |
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"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:5ismb119969u4fd2q32an82iqcri2tib6d@4ax.com...
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:16:10 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <fdCdnYirsZ4IuybfRVn-oA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:9i4mb1tb0f83u425gigae31uu29odoqfpd@4ax.com...
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:02:32 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <O6adne80KO7emibfRVn-vA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:h81mb1dnkfll3amknfnlkju7vdvgjr1vq6@4ax.com...
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:25:50 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <ROWdnT1pL4Y0YyffRVn-jw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Jim Spaza" <spaza9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1119541321.533052.26430@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Deep Thought wrote:
"Jim Spaza" "
The short answer is that God exists in a spiritual dimension
called
Heaven.
That begs the question of the existence of the "spiritual".
Yes.
Begging the question (taking it for granted that some statement is
true
when
there is no proof it is true) is logical fallacy, knucklehead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
Oooh. Name calling, just like in grade school. Perhaps if you were
to
consider that others are not as brilliant and logical as you are,
then
you might have mercy on those beneath your caliber of intellectual
prowess and maturity. Thanks.
Begging the question is still logical fallacy, knucklehead. Didn't
your
daddy teach you the basics?
So is ad hominem. A rhetorical one as well.
You have not established the existence of what you call, "a spiritual
dimension called Heaven" you are begging the question, knucklehead,
and
begging the question (taking it for granted that some statement is
true
when
there is no proof it is true) is still logical fallacy, knucklehead.
Start
acting like a grownup who knows the basics and you will be treated
like
one.
Would you like me to identify the problems with the above paragraph?
Don't try to change the subject, knucklehead. That's just another form
of
fallacy of diversion.
"The Fallacies of Diversion : The fallacies in this family share the
characteristic that they distract attention away from the issue that is
genuinely under discussion." --
http://www.cuyamaca.net/bruce.thompson/Fallacies/diversion.asp
The issue here is your fellow knucklehead, Spazza taking for granted
(begging the question) the existence of a "spiritual dimension called
Heaven" when there is no such thing in evidence, knucklehead.
I guess you know about logical and rhetorical fallacies, you seem so
good at using them.
Now you resort to tu quoque (you too) fallacy.
Gad, no. ...
There is no use trying to weasel out of it, knucklehead, you have been
caught red-handed arguing, "You do it too" and that is logical fallacy. See
http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#tuquoque
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23 Jun 2005 11:12:23 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:06:00 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <OdqdncbsYcYP5SbfRVn-3w@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:16:10 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <fdCdnYirsZ4IuybfRVn-oA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:02:32 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <O6adne80KO7emibfRVn-vA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:25:50 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <ROWdnT1pL4Y0YyffRVn-jw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Jim Spaza" <spaza9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Deep Thought wrote:
"Jim Spaza" "
The short answer is that God exists in a spiritual dimension
called
Heaven.
That begs the question of the existence of the "spiritual".
Yes.
Begging the question (taking it for granted that some statement is
true
when
there is no proof it is true) is logical fallacy, knucklehead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
Oooh. Name calling, just like in grade school. Perhaps if you were
to
consider that others are not as brilliant and logical as you are,
then
you might have mercy on those beneath your caliber of intellectual
prowess and maturity. Thanks.
Begging the question is still logical fallacy, knucklehead. Didn't
your
daddy teach you the basics?
So is ad hominem. A rhetorical one as well.
You have not established the existence of what you call, "a spiritual
dimension called Heaven" you are begging the question, knucklehead,
and
begging the question (taking it for granted that some statement is
true
when
there is no proof it is true) is still logical fallacy, knucklehead.
Start
acting like a grownup who knows the basics and you will be treated
like
one.
Would you like me to identify the problems with the above paragraph?
Don't try to change the subject, knucklehead. That's just another form
of
fallacy of diversion.
"The Fallacies of Diversion : The fallacies in this family share the
characteristic that they distract attention away from the issue that is
genuinely under discussion." --
http://www.cuyamaca.net/bruce.thompson/Fallacies/diversion.asp
The issue here is your fellow knucklehead, Spazza taking for granted
(begging the question) the existence of a "spiritual dimension called
Heaven" when there is no such thing in evidence, knucklehead.
I guess you know about logical and rhetorical fallacies, you seem so
good at using them.
Now you resort to tu quoque (you too) fallacy.
Gad, no. ...
There is no use trying to weasel out of it, knucklehead, you have been
caught red-handed arguing, "You do it too" and that is logical fallacy. See
http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#tuquoque
Ah sucks, professor, I guess you caught me. Gee wilikers, what'll I
do?
(snicker)
--
Matt Silberstein
All in all, if I could be any animal, I would want to be
a duck or a goose. They can fly, walk, and swim. Plus,
there there is a certain satisfaction knowing that at the
end of your life you will taste good with an orange sauce
or, in the case of a goose, a chestnut stuffing.
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"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 20:06:00 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <OdqdncbsYcYP5SbfRVn-3w@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 14:16:10 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <fdCdnYirsZ4IuybfRVn-oA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:02:32 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <O6adne80KO7emibfRVn-vA@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote
in
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:25:50 -0700, in rec.photo.digital , "Deep
Thought" <dt@algia.org> in <ROWdnT1pL4Y0YyffRVn-jw@comcast.com>
wrote:
"Jim Spaza" <spaza9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1119541321.533052.26430@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Deep Thought wrote:
"Jim Spaza" "
The short answer is that God exists in a spiritual dimension
called
Heaven.
That begs the question of the existence of the "spiritual".
Yes.
Begging the question (taking it for granted that some statement
is
true
when
there is no proof it is true) is logical fallacy, knucklehead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
Oooh. Name calling, just like in grade school. Perhaps if you
were
to
consider that others are not as brilliant and logical as you are,
then
you might have mercy on those beneath your caliber of intellectual
prowess and maturity. Thanks.
Begging the question is still logical fallacy, knucklehead. Didn't
your
daddy teach you the basics?
So is ad hominem. A rhetorical one as well.
You have not established the existence of what you call, "a
spiritual
dimension called Heaven" you are begging the question, knucklehead,
and
begging the question (taking it for granted that some statement is
true
when
there is no proof it is true) is still logical fallacy, knucklehead.
Start
acting like a grownup who knows the basics and you will be treated
like
one.
Would you like me to identify the problems with the above paragraph?
Don't try to change the subject, knucklehead. That's just another form
of
fallacy of diversion.
"The Fallacies of Diversion : The fallacies in this family share the
characteristic that they distract attention away from the issue that
is
genuinely under discussion." --
http://www.cuyamaca.net/bruce.thompson/Fallacies/diversion.asp
The issue here is your fellow knucklehead, Spazza taking for granted
(begging the question) the existence of a "spiritual dimension called
Heaven" when there is no such thing in evidence, knucklehead.
I guess you know about logical and rhetorical fallacies, you seem so
good at using them.
Now you resort to tu quoque (you too) fallacy.
Gad, no. ...
There is no use trying to weasel out of it, knucklehead, you have been
caught red-handed arguing, "You do it too" and that is logical fallacy.
See
http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#tuquoque
Ah sucks, professor, I guess you caught me. Gee wilikers, what'll I
do?
(snicker)
Take your F for the day, and look ashamed, look very ashamed. 8^)
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24 Jun 2005 02:31:54 PM |
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In article <urSdndRSAPkfriHfRVn-iA@comcast.com>,
"Deep Thought" <dt@algia.org> wrote:
Ah sucks, professor, I guess you caught me. Gee wilikers, what'll I
do?
(snicker)
Take your F for the day, and look ashamed, look very ashamed. 8^)
Why should anyone else take an F or look ashamed when Simple Septic, who
does the same things on a wholesale lever, never does either?
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23 Jun 2005 05:16:03 PM |
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In alt.atheism On 23 Jun 2005 08:42:01 -0700, "Jim Spaza"
<spaza9@yahoo.com> let us all know that:
Deep Thought wrote:
"Jim Spaza" "
The short answer is that God exists in a spiritual dimension called
Heaven.
That begs the question of the existence of the "spiritual".
Yes.
Begging the question (taking it for granted that some statement is true when
there is no proof it is true) is logical fallacy, knucklehead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
Oooh. Name calling, just like in grade school.
Oooh. Style over substance fallacy and completely ignoring the
point.
Don
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23 Jun 2005 04:24:25 PM |
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Jim Spaza wrote:
Deep Thought wrote:
"Jim Spaza" "
The short answer is that God exists in a spiritual dimension called
Heaven.
That begs the question of the existence of the "spiritual".
Yes.
Begging the question (taking it for granted that some statement is true when
there is no proof it is true) is logical fallacy, knucklehead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
Oooh. Name calling, just like in grade school. Perhaps if you were to
consider that others are not as brilliant and logical as you are, then
you might have mercy on those beneath your caliber of intellectual
prowess and maturity. Thanks.
So, why didn't you answer the question, ignoring the insult? You know,
when you concentrate on the insult and ignore the meat-n-potatoes of the
post, you're not really responding to anything. Please respond to the
post, not the insult.
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23 Jun 2005 04:33:07 PM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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Jim Spaza wrote:
Deep Thought wrote:
"Jim Spaza" "
The short answer is that God exists in a spiritual dimension called
Heaven.
That begs the question of the existence of the "spiritual".
Yes.
Begging the question (taking it for granted that some statement is true
when
there is no proof it is true) is logical fallacy, knucklehead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question
Oooh. Name calling, just like in grade school. Perhaps if you were to
consider that others are not as brilliant and logical as you are, then
you might have mercy on those beneath your caliber of intellectual
prowess and maturity. Thanks.
So, why didn't you answer the question, ignoring the insult? You know,
when you concentrate on the insult and ignore the meat-n-potatoes of the
post, you're not really responding to anything. Please respond to the
post, not the insult.
Theists seem to prefer to try to create a diversion instead of sticking to
the real issue.
"The Fallacies of Diversion : The fallacies in this family share the
characteristic that they distract attention away from the issue that is
genuinely under discussion." --
http://www.cuyamaca.net/bruce.thompson/Fallacies/diversion.asp
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24 Jun 2005 02:39:44 PM |
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In article <qO-dnR2lv6sTtybfRVn-jQ@comcast.com>,
"Deep Thought" <dt@algia.org> wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
Theists seem to prefer to try to create a diversion instead of sticking to
the real issue.
Simple Septic interpretation: theist = anyone who does not agree with
Simple Septic entirely on everything.
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24 Jun 2005 03:56:47 PM |
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"Virgil" <ITSnetNOTcom#virgil@COMCAST.com> wrote in message
news:ITSnetNOTcom%23virgil-E77F77.13394424062005@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article <qO-dnR2lv6sTtybfRVn-jQ@comcast.com>,
"Deep Thought" <dt@algia.org> wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
Theists seem to prefer to try to create a diversion instead of sticking
to
the real issue.
Simple Septic interpretation: theist = anyone who does not agree with
Simple Septic entirely on everything.
Nope.
theist: one who argues _ad ignorantiam_ like Virgil, Johnny, and friends,
that there might be an invisible God because the atheists can't prove that
hypothesis ('might be' conjecture) false.
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24 Jun 2005 04:38:34 PM |
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Deep Thought wrote:
"Virgil" <ITSnetNOTcom#virgil@COMCAST.com> wrote in message
news:ITSnetNOTcom%23virgil-E77F77.13394424062005@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
In article <qO-dnR2lv6sTtybfRVn-jQ@comcast.com>,
"Deep Thought" <dt@algia.org> wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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