Religions > Atheism > Australia Muslim leader: Uncovered women are “uncovered meat” who invite rape
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26 Oct 2006 06:21:10 AM |
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Australia Muslim leader: Uncovered women are “uncovered meat” who invite rape |
http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/story/0,,1932071,00.html
Australian Muslim leader compares uncovered women to exposed meat
Thursday October 26, 2006
A senior Muslim cleric in Australia has sparked a furore after
comparing women who do not wear a headscarf to "uncovered meat",
implying that they invited sexual assault.
Sheik Taj Aldin al Hilali delivered his comments in a religious
address on adultery to around 500 worshippers in Sydney last month,
but they only came to the attention of the wider public when they were
published in a newspaper called the Australian, today.
Sheik Hilali was quoted as saying: "If you take out uncovered meat and
place it outside ... without cover, and the cats come to eat it ...
whose fault is it, the cats' or the uncovered meat's? The uncovered
meat is the problem. If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab
(the headdress worn by some Muslim women), no problem would have
occurred."
The Egyptian-born cleric, and the mufti of Sydney's biggest mosque,
today sought to defuse the outrage his comments had sparked...
The paper also reported that Sheik Hilali alluded in his sermon to the
gang rapes in Sydney of six years ago, suggesting the attackers were
not to blame.
While not specifically referring to the attacks on four women for
which a group of young Lebanese men received long jail sentences,
Sheik Hilali said there were women who "sway suggestively" and wore
make-up and immodest dress ... "and then you get a judge without mercy
(rahma) and he gives you 65 years".
"But the problem, but the problem all began with who?" he asked.
<snip>
And we're wasting a trillion dollars and thousands of American lives
to give these people DEMOCRACY...
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| User: "Phoenix" |
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| Title: Re: Australia Muslim leader: Uncovered women are “uncovered meat” who invite rape |
26 Oct 2006 03:17:44 PM |
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In article <bc61k252esukkhimq76ikk1fg9mr056lcn@4ax.com>,
jsmithers@internets.biz says...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/story/0,,1932071,00.html
Australian Muslim leader compares uncovered women to exposed meat
Thursday October 26, 2006
A senior Muslim cleric in Australia has sparked a furore after
comparing women who do not wear a headscarf to "uncovered meat",
implying that they invited sexual assault.
Sheik Taj Aldin al Hilali delivered his comments in a religious
address on adultery to around 500 worshippers in Sydney last month,
but they only came to the attention of the wider public when they were
published in a newspaper called the Australian, today.
Sheik Hilali was quoted as saying: "If you take out uncovered meat and
place it outside ... without cover, and the cats come to eat it ...
whose fault is it, the cats' or the uncovered meat's? The uncovered
meat is the problem. If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab
(the headdress worn by some Muslim women), no problem would have
occurred."
The Egyptian-born cleric, and the mufti of Sydney's biggest mosque,
today sought to defuse the outrage his comments had sparked...
The paper also reported that Sheik Hilali alluded in his sermon to the
gang rapes in Sydney of six years ago, suggesting the attackers were
not to blame.
While not specifically referring to the attacks on four women for
which a group of young Lebanese men received long jail sentences,
Sheik Hilali said there were women who "sway suggestively" and wore
make-up and immodest dress ... "and then you get a judge without mercy
(rahma) and he gives you 65 years".
"But the problem, but the problem all began with who?" he asked.
<snip>
And we're wasting a trillion dollars and thousands of American lives
to give these people DEMOCRACY...
Hell darlin', we give trillions of dollars to CONTINUE this form of
Fascism! Screw democracy, our tax dollars go to Egypt, Saudi Arabia and
Pakistan which openly teaches a hatred for women and the US.
And we call France an enemy.
bel
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| User: "flick" |
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| Title: Re: Australia Muslim leader: Uncovered women are "uncovered meat" who invite rape |
27 Oct 2006 07:41:28 PM |
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"Phoenix" <avianatrix@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1faae1f12f17cc57989f74@news-server.carolina.rr.com...
Hell darlin', we give trillions of dollars to CONTINUE this form of
Fascism! Screw democracy, our tax dollars go to Egypt, Saudi Arabia and
Pakistan which openly teaches a hatred for women and the US.
We send aid to Saudi Arabia?
flick 100785
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| User: "chibiabos" |
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| Title: Re: Australia Muslim leader: Uncovered women are “uncovered meat” who invite rape |
26 Oct 2006 08:51:41 AM |
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In article <bc61k252esukkhimq76ikk1fg9mr056lcn@4ax.com>, j smithers
<jsmithers@internets.biz> wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/story/0,,1932071,00.html
Australian Muslim leader compares uncovered women to exposed meat
Thursday October 26, 2006
A senior Muslim cleric in Australia has sparked a furore after
comparing women who do not wear a headscarf to "uncovered meat",
implying that they invited sexual assault.
Sheik Taj Aldin al Hilali delivered his comments in a religious
address on adultery to around 500 worshippers in Sydney last month,
but they only came to the attention of the wider public when they were
published in a newspaper called the Australian, today.
Sheik Hilali was quoted as saying: "If you take out uncovered meat and
place it outside ... without cover, and the cats come to eat it ...
whose fault is it, the cats' or the uncovered meat's? The uncovered
meat is the problem. If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab
(the headdress worn by some Muslim women), no problem would have
occurred."
The Egyptian-born cleric, and the mufti of Sydney's biggest mosque,
today sought to defuse the outrage his comments had sparked...
The paper also reported that Sheik Hilali alluded in his sermon to the
gang rapes in Sydney of six years ago, suggesting the attackers were
not to blame.
While not specifically referring to the attacks on four women for
which a group of young Lebanese men received long jail sentences,
Sheik Hilali said there were women who "sway suggestively" and wore
make-up and immodest dress ... "and then you get a judge without mercy
(rahma) and he gives you 65 years".
"But the problem, but the problem all began with who?" he asked.
<snip>
And we're wasting a trillion dollars and thousands of American lives
to give these people DEMOCRACY...
While despicable, this is not a singularly Muslim point of view. Even
in the secular West, rape victims are often blamed for their own
assaults. It is a common courtroom tactic to highlight the victim's
dress or behavior as "suggestive" or "promiscuous."
-chib
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Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
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| User: "Mark D J. Mark D" |
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| Title: Re: Australia Muslim leader: Uncovered women are "uncovered meat" who invite rape |
26 Oct 2006 01:07:13 PM |
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"chibiabos" <chib@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:261020060651413109%chib@nospam.com...
In article <bc61k252esukkhimq76ikk1fg9mr056lcn@4ax.com>, j smithers
<jsmithers@internets.
And we're wasting a trillion dollars and thousands of American lives
to give these people DEMOCRACY...
Typical 'Merkin idiot: utterly ignorant of his own country's foreign policy
history, and completely clueless about its actual foreign policy goals.
Thinks it's all about 'giving people democracy'.
Pitiful.
While despicable, this is not a singularly Muslim point of view. Even
in the secular
Huh!!!
West, rape victims are often blamed for their own
assaults. It is a common courtroom tactic to highlight the victim's
dress or behavior as "suggestive" or "promiscuous."
Anyone wanna take a shot at explaining why it's always the *monotheistic*
religions that are the most dementedly misogynistic...?
M.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Australia Muslim leader: Uncovered women are "uncovered meat" who invite rape |
28 Oct 2006 10:41:30 PM |
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:07:13 GMT, "Mark D J." <Mark D J.@hoyme.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
"chibiabos" <chib@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:261020060651413109%chib@nospam.com...
In article <bc61k252esukkhimq76ikk1fg9mr056lcn@4ax.com>, j smithers
<jsmithers@internets.
And we're wasting a trillion dollars and thousands of American lives
to give these people DEMOCRACY...
Typical 'Merkin idiot: utterly ignorant of his own country's foreign policy
history, and completely clueless about its actual foreign policy goals.
Thinks it's all about 'giving people democracy'.
No 'thinking' at all. Mere parroting the pap its spoonfed.
Pitiful.
Very.
While despicable, this is not a singularly Muslim point of view. Even
in the secular
Huh!!!
West, rape victims are often blamed for their own
assaults. It is a common courtroom tactic to highlight the victim's
dress or behavior as "suggestive" or "promiscuous."
Anyone wanna take a shot at explaining why it's always the *monotheistic*
religions that are the most dementedly misogynistic...?
Sheer envy.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "DarkAngel" |
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| Title: Re: Australia Muslim leader: Uncovered women are "uncovered meat" who invite rape |
26 Oct 2006 11:03:48 AM |
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chibiabos wrote:
While despicable, this is not a singularly Muslim point of view.
QFT.
You just need to look at the reaction from the right-wing regarding the
Duke University rapists and other similar cases. "She dressed like a
*****", "She's a stripper", blah blah blah.
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No Gods. No Masters.
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27 Oct 2006 09:01:04 AM |
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j smithers wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/story/0,,1932071,00.html
Australian Muslim leader compares uncovered women to exposed meat
Thursday October 26, 2006
A senior Muslim cleric in Australia has sparked a furore after
comparing women who do not wear a headscarf to "uncovered meat",
implying that they invited sexual assault.
The only reason it is a furore is because people
no longer face up to the common sense facts of life.
Thanks only to feminazi propaganda politicians
are now too terrified to tell the truth about
this. Hence we see the Auzzie P.M. quick to the
microphone to denounce the comment. He's got to
look good for the female vote instead of showing
some balls and repealing the right to vote for
women.
D.
Sheik Taj Aldin al Hilali delivered his comments in a religious
address on adultery to around 500 worshippers in Sydney last month,
but they only came to the attention of the wider public when they were
published in a newspaper called the Australian, today.
Sheik Hilali was quoted as saying: "If you take out uncovered meat and
place it outside ... without cover, and the cats come to eat it ...
whose fault is it, the cats' or the uncovered meat's? The uncovered
meat is the problem. If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab
(the headdress worn by some Muslim women), no problem would have
occurred."
The Egyptian-born cleric, and the mufti of Sydney's biggest mosque,
today sought to defuse the outrage his comments had sparked...
The paper also reported that Sheik Hilali alluded in his sermon to the
gang rapes in Sydney of six years ago, suggesting the attackers were
not to blame.
While not specifically referring to the attacks on four women for
which a group of young Lebanese men received long jail sentences,
Sheik Hilali said there were women who "sway suggestively" and wore
make-up and immodest dress ... "and then you get a judge without mercy
(rahma) and he gives you 65 years".
"But the problem, but the problem all began with who?" he asked.
<snip>
And we're wasting a trillion dollars and thousands of American lives
to give these people DEMOCRACY...
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Women have spent the last
30 years proving that men
have been right for the
last 30 centuries.
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| User: "Kadaitcha Man" |
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27 Oct 2006 09:06:57 AM |
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Dustbin <dustbin_address@blueyonder.co.uk>, the employee who makes items
for sale from vacuum cleaner dust-bag emptyings, growled:
Hence we see the Auzzie P.M. quick to the
microphone to denounce the comment. He's got to
look good for the female vote instead of showing
some balls
He had to retain the male vote; that's why he didn't show his balls.
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alt.usenet.kooks - Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September 2005 and April 2006
"K-Man's particular genius, however, lies not merely in his humour,
but his ability to make posters who had previously seemed reasonably
well-balanced turn into foaming, frothing, death threat-uttering
maniacs" - Snarky, Demon Lord of Confusion
Thou weak-hinged dolt. Thou barrel-scraping flatterer.
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| User: "Lucifer" |
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27 Oct 2006 10:49:06 AM |
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Kadaitcha Man wrote:
Dustbin <dustbin_address@blueyonder.co.uk>, the employee who makes items
for sale from vacuum cleaner dust-bag emptyings, growled:
Hence we see the Auzzie P.M. quick to the
microphone to denounce the comment. He's got to
look good for the female vote instead of showing
some balls
He had to retain the male vote; that's why he didn't show his balls.
Right...so showing his balls would have attracted lots of men...but
what type of man would it attract?
(Remember rule 1)
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Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and
General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
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alt.usenet.kooks - Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September 2005 and April 2006
"K-Man's particular genius, however, lies not merely in his humour,
but his ability to make posters who had previously seemed reasonably
well-balanced turn into foaming, frothing, death threat-uttering
maniacs" - Snarky, Demon Lord of Confusion
Thou weak-hinged dolt. Thou barrel-scraping flatterer.
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| User: "Kadaitcha Man" |
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27 Oct 2006 05:28:55 PM |
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Lucifer <wyrdology@hotmail.com>, the hedger and ditcher, exudated:
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
He had to retain the male vote; that's why he didn't show his balls.
Right...so showing his balls would have attracted lots of men...
Learn to read, fuckwit.
--
alt.usenet.kooks - Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker:
September 2005 and April 2006
"K-Man's particular genius, however, lies not merely in his humour,
but his ability to make posters who had previously seemed reasonably
well-balanced turn into foaming, frothing, death threat-uttering
maniacs" - Snarky, Demon Lord of Confusion
Thou transgressing slave. Why thou art a man of wax.
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28 Oct 2006 09:58:14 AM |
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Dustbin wrote:
j smithers wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/story/0,,1932071,00.html
Australian Muslim leader compares uncovered women to exposed meat
Thursday October 26, 2006
A senior Muslim cleric in Australia has sparked a furore after
comparing women who do not wear a headscarf to "uncovered meat",
implying that they invited sexual assault.
The only reason it is a furore is because people
no longer face up to the common sense facts of life.
Thanks only to feminazi propaganda politicians
are now too terrified to tell the truth about
this. Hence we see the Auzzie P.M. quick to the
microphone to denounce the comment. He's got to
look good for the female vote instead of showing
some balls and repealing the right to vote for
women.
D.
Idiots like you are another good reason for the right to keep and bare
arms.
Cat
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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28 Oct 2006 08:56:02 PM |
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On 28 Oct 2006 07:58:14 -0700, wrote:
- Refer: <1162047494.744690.15050@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Dustbin wrote:
j smithers wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/story/0,,1932071,00.html
Australian Muslim leader compares uncovered women to exposed meat
Thursday October 26, 2006
A senior Muslim cleric in Australia has sparked a furore after
comparing women who do not wear a headscarf to "uncovered meat",
implying that they invited sexual assault.
The only reason it is a furore is because people
no longer face up to the common sense facts of life.
Thanks only to feminazi propaganda politicians
are now too terrified to tell the truth about
this. Hence we see the Auzzie P.M. quick to the
microphone to denounce the comment. He's got to
look good for the female vote instead of showing
some balls and repealing the right to vote for
women.
D.
Idiots like you are another good reason for the right to keep and bare
arms.
Cat
If you meant "bear arms", then Australians (in general) have no such
"right".
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| User: "" |
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29 Oct 2006 07:50:24 AM |
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Michael Gray wrote:
On 28 Oct 2006 07:58:14 -0700, wrote:
- Refer: <1162047494.744690.15050@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Dustbin wrote:
j smithers wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/story/0,,1932071,00.html
Australian Muslim leader compares uncovered women to exposed meat
Thursday October 26, 2006
A senior Muslim cleric in Australia has sparked a furore after
comparing women who do not wear a headscarf to "uncovered meat",
implying that they invited sexual assault.
The only reason it is a furore is because people
no longer face up to the common sense facts of life.
Thanks only to feminazi propaganda politicians
are now too terrified to tell the truth about
this. Hence we see the Auzzie P.M. quick to the
microphone to denounce the comment. He's got to
look good for the female vote instead of showing
some balls and repealing the right to vote for
women.
D.
Idiots like you are another good reason for the right to keep and bare
arms.
Cat
If you meant "bear arms", then Australians (in general) have no such
"right".
Too bad.
I have a concealed carry permit and a 9mm Makarov in my purse, right in
there with my lip gloss.
Cat
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| User: "" |
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29 Oct 2006 04:34:00 PM |
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wrote:
Too bad.
I have a concealed carry permit and a 9mm Makarov in my purse, right in
there with my lip gloss.
Try that in Australia ***** and you'll be slammed for 5 years. You gun
freak nutters!
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| User: "" |
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30 Oct 2006 07:30:14 AM |
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wrote:
catbrier04@yahoo.com wrote:
Too bad.
I have a concealed carry permit and a 9mm Makarov in my purse, right in
there with my lip gloss.
Try that in Australia ***** and you'll be slammed for 5 years. You gun
freak nutters!
I don't live in Auzzystrailia. And if a few of the Auzzychycks were
packing maybe those mass rapes and attacks wouldn't have happened?
Protecting one's self is a basic human right.
One day your backward country will grow up.
Cat
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| User: "Hyerdahl" |
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30 Oct 2006 09:02:48 AM |
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wrote:
connor_a@hotmail.com wrote:
wrote:
Too bad.
I have a concealed carry permit and a 9mm Makarov in my purse, right in
there with my lip gloss.
Try that in Australia ***** and you'll be slammed for 5 years. You gun
freak nutters!
I don't live in Auzzystrailia. And if a few of the Auzzychycks were
packing maybe those mass rapes and attacks wouldn't have happened?
Protecting one's self is a basic human right.
One day your backward country will grow up.
He forgets that women have roo-shooters. :-)
Cat
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30 Oct 2006 04:50:59 PM |
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On 30 Oct 2006 05:30:14 -0800, wrote:
- Refer: <1162215014.071778.184910@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
connor_a@hotmail.com wrote:
wrote:
Too bad.
I have a concealed carry permit and a 9mm Makarov in my purse, right in
there with my lip gloss.
Try that in Australia ***** and you'll be slammed for 5 years. You gun
freak nutters!
I don't live in Auzzystrailia. And if a few of the Auzzychycks were
packing maybe those mass rapes and attacks wouldn't have happened?
Protecting one's self is a basic human right.
One day your backward country will grow up.
That rant is not supported by the facts.
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| User: "Hyerdahl" |
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29 Oct 2006 12:40:00 PM |
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wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
On 28 Oct 2006 07:58:14 -0700, wrote:
- Refer: <1162047494.744690.15050@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Dustbin wrote:
j smithers wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/story/0,,1932071,00.html
Australian Muslim leader compares uncovered women to exposed meat
Thursday October 26, 2006
A senior Muslim cleric in Australia has sparked a furore after
comparing women who do not wear a headscarf to "uncovered meat",
implying that they invited sexual assault.
The only reason it is a furore is because people
no longer face up to the common sense facts of life.
Thanks only to feminazi propaganda politicians
are now too terrified to tell the truth about
this. Hence we see the Auzzie P.M. quick to the
microphone to denounce the comment. He's got to
look good for the female vote instead of showing
some balls and repealing the right to vote for
women.
D.
Idiots like you are another good reason for the right to keep and bare
arms.
Cat
If you meant "bear arms", then Australians (in general) have no such
"right".
Too bad.
I have a concealed carry permit and a 9mm Makarov in my purse, right in
there with my lip gloss.
I used to have something similar to that. Where I live now, it isn't
legal. :-( But my hunting rifles are. :-)
Cat
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30 Oct 2006 07:25:32 AM |
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Hyerdahl wrote:
wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
On 28 Oct 2006 07:58:14 -0700, wrote:
- Refer: <1162047494.744690.15050@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Dustbin wrote:
j smithers wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/story/0,,1932071,00.html
Australian Muslim leader compares uncovered women to exposed meat
Thursday October 26, 2006
A senior Muslim cleric in Australia has sparked a furore after
comparing women who do not wear a headscarf to "uncovered meat",
implying that they invited sexual assault.
The only reason it is a furore is because people
no longer face up to the common sense facts of life.
Thanks only to feminazi propaganda politicians
are now too terrified to tell the truth about
this. Hence we see the Auzzie P.M. quick to the
microphone to denounce the comment. He's got to
look good for the female vote instead of showing
some balls and repealing the right to vote for
women.
D.
Idiots like you are another good reason for the right to keep and bare
arms.
Cat
If you meant "bear arms", then Australians (in general) have no such
"right".
Too bad.
I have a concealed carry permit and a 9mm Makarov in my purse, right in
there with my lip gloss.
I used to have something similar to that. Where I live now, it isn't
legal. :-( But my hunting rifles are. :-)
My dad gave me a sawed off 12 gauge shotgun when I moved out here in
the country by myself. The buckshot acts as a deterent.
Cat
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Australia Muslim leader: Uncovered women are "uncovered meat" who invi |
29 Oct 2006 08:13:13 PM |
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On 29 Oct 2006 05:50:24 -0800, wrote:
- Refer: <1162129824.119359.188390@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
Michael Gray wrote:
On 28 Oct 2006 07:58:14 -0700, wrote:
- Refer: <1162047494.744690.15050@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Dustbin wrote:
j smithers wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/story/0,,1932071,00.html
Australian Muslim leader compares uncovered women to exposed meat
Thursday October 26, 2006
A senior Muslim cleric in Australia has sparked a furore after
comparing women who do not wear a headscarf to "uncovered meat",
implying that they invited sexual assault.
The only reason it is a furore is because people
no longer face up to the common sense facts of life.
Thanks only to feminazi propaganda politicians
are now too terrified to tell the truth about
this. Hence we see the Auzzie P.M. quick to the
microphone to denounce the comment. He's got to
look good for the female vote instead of showing
some balls and repealing the right to vote for
women.
D.
Idiots like you are another good reason for the right to keep and bare
arms.
Cat
If you meant "bear arms", then Australians (in general) have no such
"right".
Too bad.
I have a concealed carry permit and a 9mm Makarov in my purse, right in
there with my lip gloss.
Cat
I rather like the idea that I can walk around in public without having
to worry about who is carrying a firearm.
Don't get me wrong, I am a shooter, and have been since childhood.
I just think that the EVIDENCE shows that the difference in firearms
woundings and deaths in the USA vs Australia says it all.
The right to bear arms, when combined with a deliberate policy of
inculcating fear in the general populace has resulted in an avoidable
mass slaughter of innocents.
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30 Oct 2006 07:49:44 AM |
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Michael Gray wrote:
On 29 Oct 2006 05:50:24 -0800, wrote:
- Refer: <1162129824.119359.188390@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
Michael Gray wrote:
On 28 Oct 2006 07:58:14 -0700, wrote:
- Refer: <1162047494.744690.15050@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Dustbin wrote:
j smithers wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/australia/story/0,,1932071,00.html
Australian Muslim leader compares uncovered women to exposed meat
Thursday October 26, 2006
A senior Muslim cleric in Australia has sparked a furore after
comparing women who do not wear a headscarf to "uncovered meat",
implying that they invited sexual assault.
The only reason it is a furore is because people
no longer face up to the common sense facts of life.
Thanks only to feminazi propaganda politicians
are now too terrified to tell the truth about
this. Hence we see the Auzzie P.M. quick to the
microphone to denounce the comment. He's got to
look good for the female vote instead of showing
some balls and repealing the right to vote for
women.
D.
Idiots like you are another good reason for the right to keep and bare
arms.
Cat
If you meant "bear arms", then Australians (in general) have no such
"right".
Too bad.
I have a concealed carry permit and a 9mm Makarov in my purse, right in
there with my lip gloss.
Cat
I rather like the idea that I can walk around in public without having
to worry about who is carrying a firearm.
Don't get me wrong, I am a shooter, and have been since childhood.
I just think that the EVIDENCE shows that the difference in firearms
woundings and deaths in the USA vs Australia says it all.
The right to bear arms, when combined with a deliberate policy of
inculcating fear in the general populace has resulted in an avoidable
mass slaughter of innocents.
It's tragic in a way. I enjoyed the gunlessness and relative
crimelessness of Scandinavia and Europe - but even there things are
changing, I fear for the worst. I don't know what the solution is but
intend to protect myself.
Cat
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| User: "draco664" |
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30 Oct 2006 05:44:06 PM |
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wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
The right to bear arms, when combined with a deliberate policy of
inculcating fear in the general populace has resulted in an avoidable
mass slaughter of innocents.
It's tragic in a way. I enjoyed the gunlessness and relative
crimelessness of Scandinavia and Europe - but even there things are
changing, I fear for the worst. I don't know what the solution is but
intend to protect myself.
Cat
Did you happen to visit Switzerland? They Loooooove their guns there.
Odd thing. With no culture of fear, they have a very low murder rate
for a place where travelling around with a loaded assualt rifle lying
exposed on the passenger seat of a car doesn't attract the eye of the
policeman writing out a speeding ticket.
Draco
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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30 Oct 2006 10:08:59 PM |
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On 30 Oct 2006 15:44:06 -0800, "draco664" <draco664@hotmail.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <1162251846.345853.200880@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
catbrier04@yahoo.com wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
The right to bear arms, when combined with a deliberate policy of
inculcating fear in the general populace has resulted in an avoidable
mass slaughter of innocents.
It's tragic in a way. I enjoyed the gunlessness and relative
crimelessness of Scandinavia and Europe - but even there things are
changing, I fear for the worst. I don't know what the solution is but
intend to protect myself.
Cat
Did you happen to visit Switzerland? They Loooooove their guns there.
Odd thing. With no culture of fear, they have a very low murder rate
for a place where travelling around with a loaded assualt rifle lying
exposed on the passenger seat of a car doesn't attract the eye of the
policeman writing out a speeding ticket.
Draco
Exactly.
It's the deliberately inculcated culture of fear that is the main
source of the naked agression against one's neighbours.
The free availablity of firearms merely facilitates horrific and easy
crimes.
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| User: "Lefty" |
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03 Nov 2006 02:24:28 PM |
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draco664 wrote:
catbrier04@yahoo.com wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
The right to bear arms, when combined with a deliberate policy of
inculcating fear in the general populace has resulted in an avoidable
mass slaughter of innocents.
It's tragic in a way. I enjoyed the gunlessness and relative
crimelessness of Scandinavia and Europe - but even there things are
changing, I fear for the worst. I don't know what the solution is but
intend to protect myself.
Cat
Did you happen to visit Switzerland? They Loooooove their guns there.
Odd thing. With no culture of fear, they have a very low murder rate
for a place where travelling around with a loaded assualt rifle lying
exposed on the passenger seat of a car doesn't attract the eye of the
policeman writing out a speeding ticket.
Draco
Excellent point. I agree that America's culture of fear has a huge
impact on the level of violent crime. That and economic and racial
inequality.
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| User: "stoney" |
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06 Nov 2006 10:48:59 AM |
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On 3 Nov 2006 12:24:28 -0800, "Lefty" <leftydrude@netscape.net> wrote in
alt.atheism
draco664 wrote:
catbrier04@yahoo.com wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
The right to bear arms, when combined with a deliberate policy of
inculcating fear in the general populace has resulted in an avoidable
mass slaughter of innocents.
It's tragic in a way. I enjoyed the gunlessness and relative
crimelessness of Scandinavia and Europe - but even there things are
changing, I fear for the worst. I don't know what the solution is but
intend to protect myself.
Cat
Did you happen to visit Switzerland? They Loooooove their guns there.
Odd thing. With no culture of fear, they have a very low murder rate
for a place where travelling around with a loaded assualt rifle lying
exposed on the passenger seat of a car doesn't attract the eye of the
policeman writing out a speeding ticket.
Draco
Excellent point. I agree that America's culture of fear has a huge
impact on the level of violent crime. That and economic and racial
inequality.
Sadly enough and things are getting much much worse. :\
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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06 Nov 2006 04:44:52 PM |
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On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:48:59 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <9rpuk21vv3525shg6solfe4pidh6asv01v@4ax.com>
On 3 Nov 2006 12:24:28 -0800, "Lefty" <leftydrude@netscape.net> wrote in
alt.atheism
draco664 wrote:
catbrier04@yahoo.com wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
The right to bear arms, when combined with a deliberate policy of
inculcating fear in the general populace has resulted in an avoidable
mass slaughter of innocents.
It's tragic in a way. I enjoyed the gunlessness and relative
crimelessness of Scandinavia and Europe - but even there things are
changing, I fear for the worst. I don't know what the solution is but
intend to protect myself.
Cat
Did you happen to visit Switzerland? They Loooooove their guns there.
Odd thing. With no culture of fear, they have a very low murder rate
for a place where travelling around with a loaded assualt rifle lying
exposed on the passenger seat of a car doesn't attract the eye of the
policeman writing out a speeding ticket.
Draco
Excellent point. I agree that America's culture of fear has a huge
impact on the level of violent crime. That and economic and racial
inequality.
Sadly enough and things are getting much much worse. :\
Be afraid.
Be very very afraid.
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| User: "stoney" |
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07 Nov 2006 10:40:00 PM |
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On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:14:52 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:48:59 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <9rpuk21vv3525shg6solfe4pidh6asv01v@4ax.com>
On 3 Nov 2006 12:24:28 -0800, "Lefty" <leftydrude@netscape.net> wrote in
alt.atheism
draco664 wrote:
catbrier04@yahoo.com wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
The right to bear arms, when combined with a deliberate policy of
inculcating fear in the general populace has resulted in an avoidable
mass slaughter of innocents.
It's tragic in a way. I enjoyed the gunlessness and relative
crimelessness of Scandinavia and Europe - but even there things are
changing, I fear for the worst. I don't know what the solution is but
intend to protect myself.
Cat
Did you happen to visit Switzerland? They Loooooove their guns there.
Odd thing. With no culture of fear, they have a very low murder rate
for a place where travelling around with a loaded assualt rifle lying
exposed on the passenger seat of a car doesn't attract the eye of the
policeman writing out a speeding ticket.
Draco
Excellent point. I agree that America's culture of fear has a huge
impact on the level of violent crime. That and economic and racial
inequality.
Sadly enough and things are getting much much worse. :\
Be afraid.
Be very very afraid.
When people no longer have anything to lose there's the tendency to
explode.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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08 Nov 2006 04:17:52 AM |
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On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:40:00 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <grn2l2l0n9ppncn3tu58sogcqsc6v3qv3v@4ax.com>
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:14:52 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:48:59 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <9rpuk21vv3525shg6solfe4pidh6asv01v@4ax.com>
On 3 Nov 2006 12:24:28 -0800, "Lefty" <leftydrude@netscape.net> wrote in
alt.atheism
draco664 wrote:
catbrier04@yahoo.com wrote:
Michael Gray wrote:
The right to bear arms, when combined with a deliberate policy of
inculcating fear in the general populace has resulted in an avoidable
mass slaughter of innocents.
It's tragic in a way. I enjoyed the gunlessness and relative
crimelessness of Scandinavia and Europe - but even there things are
changing, I fear for the worst. I don't know what the solution is but
intend to protect myself.
Cat
Did you happen to visit Switzerland? They Loooooove their guns there.
Odd thing. With no culture of fear, they have a very low murder rate
for a place where travelling around with a loaded assualt rifle lying
exposed on the passenger seat of a car doesn't attract the eye of the
policeman writing out a speeding ticket.
Draco
Excellent point. I agree that America's culture of fear has a huge
impact on the level of violent crime. That and economic and racial
inequality.
Sadly enough and things are getting much much worse. :\
Be afraid.
Be very very afraid.
When people no longer have anything to lose there's the tendency to
explode.
Where's my EAC suicide backpack?
Oh, that's right. Zis is EAC, Maxwell, ve don't do "boom".
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| User: "stoney" |
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13 Nov 2006 10:29:12 AM |
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On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:47:52 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:40:00 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <grn2l2l0n9ppncn3tu58sogcqsc6v3qv3v@4ax.com>
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:14:52 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
The right to bear arms, when combined with a deliberate policy of
inculcating fear in the general populace has resulted in an avoidable
mass slaughter of innocents.
It's tragic in a way. I enjoyed the gunlessness and relative
crimelessness of Scandinavia and Europe - but even there things are
changing, I fear for the worst. I don't know what the solution is but
intend to protect myself.
Cat
Did you happen to visit Switzerland? They Loooooove their guns there.
Odd thing. With no culture of fear, they have a very low murder rate
for a place where travelling around with a loaded assualt rifle lying
exposed on the passenger seat of a car doesn't attract the eye of the
policeman writing out a speeding ticket.
Draco
Excellent point. I agree that America's culture of fear has a huge
impact on the level of violent crime. That and economic and racial
inequality.
Sadly enough and things are getting much much worse. :\
Be afraid.
Be very very afraid.
When people no longer have anything to lose there's the tendency to
explode.
Where's my EAC suicide backpack?
Oh, that's right. Zis is EAC, Maxwell, ve don't do "boom".
Zoom?
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Australia Muslim leader: Uncovered women are "uncovered meat" who invi |
13 Nov 2006 05:56:34 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:29:12 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <q97hl29v6cu6nvpd3qqu39ci58r3ojf9v0@4ax.com>
On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:47:52 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:40:00 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <grn2l2l0n9ppncn3tu58sogcqsc6v3qv3v@4ax.com>
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 09:14:52 +1030, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
The right to bear arms, when combined with a deliberate policy of
inculcating fear in the general populace has resulted in an avoidable
mass slaughter of innocents.
It's tragic in a way. I enjoyed the gunlessness and relative
crimelessness of Scandinavia and Europe - but even there things are
changing, I fear for the worst. I don't know what the solution is but
intend to protect myself.
Cat
Did you happen to visit Switzerland? They Loooooove their guns there.
Odd thing. With no culture of fear, they have a very low murder rate
for a place where travelling around with a loaded assualt rifle lying
exposed on the passenger seat of a car doesn't attract the eye of the
policeman writing out a speeding ticket.
Draco
Excellent point. I agree that America's culture of fear has a huge
impact on the level of violent crime. That and economic and racial
inequality.
Sadly enough and things are getting much much worse. :\
Be afraid.
Be very very afraid.
When people no longer have anything to lose there's the tendency to
explode.
Where's my EAC suicide backpack?
Oh, that's right. Zis is EAC, Maxwell, ve don't do "boom".
Zoom?
Zigfreid!
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