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Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Lisbeth Andersson" |
| Date: |
11 Dec 2006 06:19:26 PM |
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Avoiding taxes. |
For many years I have been trying to trace my ancestors, and one of
the sources I use are the tax records the gouverment have kept of
the citizens who were obligated to pay the taxes. Most of my
genealogy research has been done in Sweden, which is world famous
for it's taxes and also has kept very good records for several
centuries. The tax records are of varying quality for finding facts
about those old relatives, sometimes you get a lot of details (my
favourite rumour is about when a tax on card playing was mandatory
and only one man in the parish paid it, presumably he played
solitare!) and sometimes you only get the fact that somebody living
on a certain farm paid tax, but there is one thing all those
records have in common: they were made to facilitate tax
collection, that is the authorities wanted to know where to send
the tax collector. Therefor *all records were made according to
which geographical area the taxpayers were living in. If a family
lived in Stockholm they would be listed in the Stockholm tax
records, and if they moved away they would be listed at their new
address. People were not expected to travel across the country to
their (or their ancestors) birth place to get on some other tax
collector's roll.
Another universal fact about taxes is that nobody wants to pay
them, people might realize that taxes are nessessary, but that
doesn't mean that they have to like it. Between those two opposing
forces, the authorities wants taxes and people do not want to pay
them, a lot of strategies have been created to save as much money
as possible, by legal means if possible but some unscruplous people
have not hesitated to cross the line into the illegal area.
Now the question that all have been waiting for, "How does this
help me from saving some of the taxmoney?" Sorry, it doesn't. I'm
going to try take this post to something which is on topic on this
newsgroup instead.
The Roman emperor Augustus decided to record all people in his
empire for tax purposes. The New Testament in the Bible tells about
how Joseph handled the situation. He decided to take off for
another part of the country. He supposedly choose Betlehem because
his family several generations back came from that town, but
considering the usual behaviour of tax collectors we can safely
assume that that was not his true motive. It is even doubtful if he
had any family in the neighbour- hood or he might have tried to
stay with them instead of trying to get a room at the inn,
especially if the alternative was that he and his pregnant wife
ended up staying in a stable. Well, his relatives might all have
moved from the area, be involved in a family feud with him or been
to distantly related so they didn't know him, but the point needs
explaining, why didn't he at least *try to stay with relatives?
If you read the part in the Bible carefully you will notice that it
does not say that he went to Betlehem becaus the authorities wanted
to register him there, he went because there was a tax registration
in progress. There is nothin that indicates that his motive was not
to avoid the tax.
Of course some time later the authorities caught up with Joseph and
he had to run off to Egypt. He stayed there until the statue of
limitation on tax evasion had run out.
The Bible is describing one of the earliest known attempts at tax
evasion, and millions of people celebrate the event each year.
If anybody has managed to read this far I wish to send you the (in
my opinion) appropriate seasons greetings: - Happy December
Shopping!
Lisbeth.
----
The day I don't learn anything new is the day I die.
*What we know is not nearly as interesting as *how we know it.
--
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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| Title: Re: Avoiding taxes. |
12 Dec 2006 06:40:38 AM |
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Lisbeth Andersson explained :
For many years I have been trying to trace my ancestors, and one of
the sources I use are the tax records the gouverment have kept of
the citizens who were obligated to pay the taxes. Most of my
genealogy research has been done in Sweden, which is world famous
for it's taxes and also has kept very good records for several
centuries. The tax records are of varying quality for finding facts
about those old relatives, sometimes you get a lot of details (my
favourite rumour is about when a tax on card playing was mandatory
and only one man in the parish paid it, presumably he played
solitare!) and sometimes you only get the fact that somebody living
on a certain farm paid tax, but there is one thing all those
records have in common: they were made to facilitate tax
collection, that is the authorities wanted to know where to send
the tax collector. Therefor *all records were made according to
which geographical area the taxpayers were living in. If a family
lived in Stockholm they would be listed in the Stockholm tax
records, and if they moved away they would be listed at their new
address. People were not expected to travel across the country to
their (or their ancestors) birth place to get on some other tax
collector's roll.
Another universal fact about taxes is that nobody wants to pay
them, people might realize that taxes are nessessary, but that
doesn't mean that they have to like it. Between those two opposing
forces, the authorities wants taxes and people do not want to pay
them, a lot of strategies have been created to save as much money
as possible, by legal means if possible but some unscruplous people
have not hesitated to cross the line into the illegal area.
Now the question that all have been waiting for, "How does this
help me from saving some of the taxmoney?" Sorry, it doesn't. I'm
going to try take this post to something which is on topic on this
newsgroup instead.
The Roman emperor Augustus decided to record all people in his
empire for tax purposes. The New Testament in the Bible tells about
how Joseph handled the situation. He decided to take off for
another part of the country. He supposedly choose Betlehem because
his family several generations back came from that town, but
considering the usual behaviour of tax collectors we can safely
assume that that was not his true motive. It is even doubtful if he
had any family in the neighbour- hood or he might have tried to
stay with them instead of trying to get a room at the inn,
especially if the alternative was that he and his pregnant wife
ended up staying in a stable. Well, his relatives might all have
moved from the area, be involved in a family feud with him or been
to distantly related so they didn't know him, but the point needs
explaining, why didn't he at least *try to stay with relatives?
If you read the part in the Bible carefully you will notice that it
does not say that he went to Betlehem becaus the authorities wanted
to register him there, he went because there was a tax registration
in progress. There is nothin that indicates that his motive was not
to avoid the tax.
Of course some time later the authorities caught up with Joseph and
he had to run off to Egypt. He stayed there until the statue of
limitation on tax evasion had run out.
The Bible is describing one of the earliest known attempts at tax
evasion, and millions of people celebrate the event each year.
If anybody has managed to read this far I wish to send you the (in
my opinion) appropriate seasons greetings: - Happy December
Shopping!
Very interesting. Now I understand the tradition of tax-evasion so
many christians have. :-)
--
Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist
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| User: "AZ Nomad" |
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| Title: Re: Avoiding taxes. |
11 Dec 2006 08:14:33 PM |
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On 12 Dec 2006 00:19:26 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
For many years I have been trying to trace my ancestors, and one of
the sources I use are the tax records the gouverment have kept of
the citizens who were obligated to pay the taxes. Most of my
fowarded to
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| User: "Lisbeth Andersson" |
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| Title: Re: Avoiding taxes. |
12 Dec 2006 04:45:31 AM |
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AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in
news:slrnens449.oms.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net:
On 12 Dec 2006 00:19:26 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
For many years I have been trying to trace my ancestors, and one
of the sources I use are the tax records the gouverment have kept
of the citizens who were obligated to pay the taxes. Most of my
fowarded to
Oh, finally, my first abuse report :-)
Now if I only could figure out what he is objecting to. The only thing
I can think of is that I really didn't provide any way of cheating on
the taxes.
Lisbeth.
----
The day I don't learn anything new is the day I die.
*What we know is not nearly as interesting as *how we know it.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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| Title: Re: Avoiding taxes. |
12 Dec 2006 06:42:13 AM |
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Lisbeth Andersson explained :
AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in
news:slrnens449.oms.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net:
On 12 Dec 2006 00:19:26 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
For many years I have been trying to trace my ancestors, and one
of the sources I use are the tax records the gouverment have kept
of the citizens who were obligated to pay the taxes. Most of my
fowarded to
Oh, finally, my first abuse report :-)
Now if I only could figure out what he is objecting to. The only thing
I can think of is that I really didn't provide any way of cheating on
the taxes.
LOL
I am willing to wager he didn't read the entire post.
--
Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Avoiding taxes. |
12 Dec 2006 12:31:14 PM |
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On 12 Dec 2006 10:45:31 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in
news:slrnens449.oms.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net:
On 12 Dec 2006 00:19:26 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
For many years I have been trying to trace my ancestors, and one
of the sources I use are the tax records the gouverment have kept
of the citizens who were obligated to pay the taxes. Most of my
fowarded to
Oh, finally, my first abuse report :-)
Now if I only could figure out what he is objecting to.
Your posting religious crap to alt.atheism, maybe?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
- Isaac Asimov
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
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| User: "Lisbeth Andersson" |
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| Title: Re: Avoiding taxes. |
12 Dec 2006 12:55:39 PM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:qattn2loe02j7r2e6spdlbmgebj80j6lp8@4ax.com:
On 12 Dec 2006 10:45:31 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in
news:slrnens449.oms.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net:
On 12 Dec 2006 00:19:26 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
For many years I have been trying to trace my ancestors, and one
of the sources I use are the tax records the gouverment have kept
of the citizens who were obligated to pay the taxes. Most of my
fowarded to
Oh, finally, my first abuse report :-)
Now if I only could figure out what he is objecting to.
Your posting religious crap to alt.atheism, maybe?
ROFLMAO
You think so? I really must post more often, maybe something about
Luke 6:1-10, that passage really have possibilities :-) although so
far only Pangur Ban seems to be the only one who read the post before
he commented on it.
Lisbeth.
----
The day I don't learn anything new is the day I die.
*What we know is not nearly as interesting as *how we know it.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Avoiding taxes. |
13 Dec 2006 02:01:16 AM |
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On 12 Dec 2006 18:55:39 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:qattn2loe02j7r2e6spdlbmgebj80j6lp8@4ax.com:
On 12 Dec 2006 10:45:31 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in
news:slrnens449.oms.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net:
On 12 Dec 2006 00:19:26 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
For many years I have been trying to trace my ancestors, and one
of the sources I use are the tax records the gouverment have kept
of the citizens who were obligated to pay the taxes. Most of my
fowarded to
Oh, finally, my first abuse report :-)
Now if I only could figure out what he is objecting to.
Your posting religious crap to alt.atheism, maybe?
ROFLMAO
You think so? I really must post more often, maybe something about
Luke 6:1-10, that passage really have possibilities :-) although so
far only Pangur Ban seems to be the only one who read the post before
he commented on it.
I read it.
Nothing you should have been jumped over.
Silly responses except for poor Pangur who has apparently been bullied
into apoligizing for some reason.
atheist@home#1554
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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| Title: Re: Avoiding taxes. |
15 Dec 2006 08:58:01 AM |
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explained :
On 12 Dec 2006 18:55:39 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:qattn2loe02j7r2e6spdlbmgebj80j6lp8@4ax.com:
On 12 Dec 2006 10:45:31 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in
news:slrnens449.oms.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net:
On 12 Dec 2006 00:19:26 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
For many years I have been trying to trace my ancestors, and one
of the sources I use are the tax records the gouverment have kept
of the citizens who were obligated to pay the taxes. Most of my
fowarded to
Oh, finally, my first abuse report :-)
Now if I only could figure out what he is objecting to.
Your posting religious crap to alt.atheism, maybe?
ROFLMAO
You think so? I really must post more often, maybe something about
Luke 6:1-10, that passage really have possibilities :-) although so
far only Pangur Ban seems to be the only one who read the post before
he commented on it.
I read it.
Nothing you should have been jumped over.
Silly responses except for poor Pangur who has apparently been bullied
into apoligizing for some reason.
atheist@home#1554
I was in a way... but not again. I will apologize when I have said
something to which true offense is taken .... I never hesitate to do
so.
I will not apologize again when I have said nothing deserving of an
apology.
--
Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Avoiding taxes. |
15 Dec 2006 04:23:33 PM |
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On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 07:58:01 -0700, Pangur Ban
<PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
atheist@home.com explained :
On 12 Dec 2006 18:55:39 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:qattn2loe02j7r2e6spdlbmgebj80j6lp8@4ax.com:
On 12 Dec 2006 10:45:31 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in
news:slrnens449.oms.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net:
On 12 Dec 2006 00:19:26 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
For many years I have been trying to trace my ancestors, and one
of the sources I use are the tax records the gouverment have kept
of the citizens who were obligated to pay the taxes. Most of my
fowarded to
Oh, finally, my first abuse report :-)
Now if I only could figure out what he is objecting to.
Your posting religious crap to alt.atheism, maybe?
ROFLMAO
You think so? I really must post more often, maybe something about
Luke 6:1-10, that passage really have possibilities :-) although so
far only Pangur Ban seems to be the only one who read the post before
he commented on it.
I read it.
Nothing you should have been jumped over.
Silly responses except for poor Pangur who has apparently been bullied
into apoligizing for some reason.
atheist@home#1554
I was in a way... but not again. I will apologize when I have said
something to which true offense is taken .... I never hesitate to do
so.
I will not apologize again when I have said nothing deserving of an
apology.
I had an absolutely brilliant friend once who kept apoligising over
trivial matters.
I told her the apologies were unnecessary and a bit irritating and she
said "Sorry."
atheist@home#1554
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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| Title: Re: Avoiding taxes. |
15 Dec 2006 11:18:38 PM |
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expressed precisely :
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 07:58:01 -0700, Pangur Ban
<PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
explained :
On 12 Dec 2006 18:55:39 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:qattn2loe02j7r2e6spdlbmgebj80j6lp8@4ax.com:
On 12 Dec 2006 10:45:31 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in
news:slrnens449.oms.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net:
On 12 Dec 2006 00:19:26 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
For many years I have been trying to trace my ancestors, and one
of the sources I use are the tax records the gouverment have kept
of the citizens who were obligated to pay the taxes. Most of my
fowarded to
Oh, finally, my first abuse report :-)
Now if I only could figure out what he is objecting to.
Your posting religious crap to alt.atheism, maybe?
ROFLMAO
You think so? I really must post more often, maybe something about
Luke 6:1-10, that passage really have possibilities :-) although so
far only Pangur Ban seems to be the only one who read the post before
he commented on it.
I read it.
Nothing you should have been jumped over.
Silly responses except for poor Pangur who has apparently been bullied
into apoligizing for some reason.
atheist@home#1554
I was in a way... but not again. I will apologize when I have said
something to which true offense is taken .... I never hesitate to do
so.
I will not apologize again when I have said nothing deserving of an
apology.
I had an absolutely brilliant friend once who kept apoligising over
trivial matters.
I told her the apologies were unnecessary and a bit irritating and she
said "Sorry."
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--
Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist
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| User: "AZ Nomad" |
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| Title: Re: Avoiding taxes. |
16 Dec 2006 08:50:52 AM |
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On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:18:38 -0700, Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
atheist@home.com expressed precisely :
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 07:58:01 -0700, Pangur Ban
<PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
atheist@home.com explained :
On 12 Dec 2006 18:55:39 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:qattn2loe02j7r2e6spdlbmgebj80j6lp8@4ax.com:
On 12 Dec 2006 10:45:31 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in
news:slrnens449.oms.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net:
On 12 Dec 2006 00:19:26 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
For many years I have been trying to trace my ancestors, and one
of the sources I use are the tax records the gouverment have kept
of the citizens who were obligated to pay the taxes. Most of my
fowarded to
Oh, finally, my first abuse report :-)
Now if I only could figure out what he is objecting to.
Your posting religious crap to alt.atheism, maybe?
ROFLMAO
You think so? I really must post more often, maybe something about
Luke 6:1-10, that passage really have possibilities :-) although so
far only Pangur Ban seems to be the only one who read the post before
he commented on it.
I read it.
Nothing you should have been jumped over.
Silly responses except for poor Pangur who has apparently been bullied
into apoligizing for some reason.
atheist@home#1554
I was in a way... but not again. I will apologize when I have said
something to which true offense is taken .... I never hesitate to do
so.
I will not apologize again when I have said nothing deserving of an
apology.
I had an absolutely brilliant friend once who kept apoligising over
trivial matters.
I told her the apologies were unnecessary and a bit irritating and she
said "Sorry."
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had a flat-mate who was always apologizing to his girlfriend. One time
I caught him on phone saying "I'm sorry I'm sorry!" She had been giving
him ***** about always apologizing.
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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| Title: Re: Avoiding taxes. |
16 Dec 2006 10:01:39 AM |
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AZ Nomad explained :
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:18:38 -0700, Pangur Ban
<PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
atheist@home.com expressed precisely :
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 07:58:01 -0700, Pangur Ban
<PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
atheist@home.com explained :
On 12 Dec 2006 18:55:39 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:qattn2loe02j7r2e6spdlbmgebj80j6lp8@4ax.com:
On 12 Dec 2006 10:45:31 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in
news:slrnens449.oms.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net:
On 12 Dec 2006 00:19:26 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
For many years I have been trying to trace my ancestors, and one
of the sources I use are the tax records the gouverment have kept
of the citizens who were obligated to pay the taxes. Most of my
fowarded to
Oh, finally, my first abuse report :-)
Now if I only could figure out what he is objecting to.
Your posting religious crap to alt.atheism, maybe?
ROFLMAO
You think so? I really must post more often, maybe something about
Luke 6:1-10, that passage really have possibilities :-) although so
far only Pangur Ban seems to be the only one who read the post before
he commented on it.
I read it.
Nothing you should have been jumped over.
Silly responses except for poor Pangur who has apparently been bullied
into apoligizing for some reason.
atheist@home#1554
I was in a way... but not again. I will apologize when I have said
something to which true offense is taken .... I never hesitate to do
so.
I will not apologize again when I have said nothing deserving of an
apology.
I had an absolutely brilliant friend once who kept apoligising over
trivial matters.
I told her the apologies were unnecessary and a bit irritating and she
said "Sorry."
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I had a flat-mate who was always apologizing to his girlfriend. One time
I caught him on phone saying "I'm sorry I'm sorry!" She had been giving
him ***** about always apologizing.
LOL I am going to avoid that!!!!
--
Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Avoiding taxes. |
15 Dec 2006 05:04:26 PM |
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On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:23:33 GMT, wrote:
I had an absolutely brilliant friend once who kept apoligising over
trivial matters.
I told her the apologies were unnecessary and a bit irritating and she
said "Sorry."
I knew a woman who had a t-shirt with "I'm Sorry" on the front.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus
was not born of a virgin."
Cardinal Bellarmine,[1615, during the trial of Galileo]
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| User: "AZ Nomad" |
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| Title: Re: Avoiding taxes. |
15 Dec 2006 09:06:24 AM |
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On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 07:58:01 -0700, Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
atheist@home.com explained :
On 12 Dec 2006 18:55:39 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:qattn2loe02j7r2e6spdlbmgebj80j6lp8@4ax.com:
On 12 Dec 2006 10:45:31 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in
news:slrnens449.oms.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net:
On 12 Dec 2006 00:19:26 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
For many years I have been trying to trace my ancestors, and one
of the sources I use are the tax records the gouverment have kept
of the citizens who were obligated to pay the taxes. Most of my
fowarded to
Oh, finally, my first abuse report :-)
Now if I only could figure out what he is objecting to.
Your posting religious crap to alt.atheism, maybe?
ROFLMAO
You think so? I really must post more often, maybe something about
Luke 6:1-10, that passage really have possibilities :-) although so
far only Pangur Ban seems to be the only one who read the post before
he commented on it.
I read it.
Nothing you should have been jumped over.
Silly responses except for poor Pangur who has apparently been bullied
into apoligizing for some reason.
atheist@home#1554
I was in a way... but not again. I will apologize when I have said
something to which true offense is taken .... I never hesitate to do
so.
I will not apologize again when I have said nothing deserving of an
apology.
I think you should apologize for apologizing so quick.
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| User: "Pangur Ban" |
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| Title: Re: Avoiding taxes. |
15 Dec 2006 10:42:10 AM |
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AZ Nomad wrote after much deliberation:
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 07:58:01 -0700, Pangur Ban
<PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
atheist@home.com explained :
On 12 Dec 2006 18:55:39 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:qattn2loe02j7r2e6spdlbmgebj80j6lp8@4ax.com:
On 12 Dec 2006 10:45:31 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in
news:slrnens449.oms.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net:
On 12 Dec 2006 00:19:26 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
For many years I have been trying to trace my ancestors, and one
of the sources I use are the tax records the gouverment have kept
of the citizens who were obligated to pay the taxes. Most of my
fowarded to
Oh, finally, my first abuse report :-)
Now if I only could figure out what he is objecting to.
Your posting religious crap to alt.atheism, maybe?
ROFLMAO
You think so? I really must post more often, maybe something about
Luke 6:1-10, that passage really have possibilities :-) although so
far only Pangur Ban seems to be the only one who read the post before
he commented on it.
I read it.
Nothing you should have been jumped over.
Silly responses except for poor Pangur who has apparently been bullied
into apoligizing for some reason.
atheist@home#1554
I was in a way... but not again. I will apologize when I have said
something to which true offense is taken .... I never hesitate to do
so.
I will not apologize again when I have said nothing deserving of an
apology.
I think you should apologize for apologizing so quick.
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We managed five "apologies" in four
sentences. I think that's a record - even for me!!! :-)
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On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:42:10 -0700, Pangur Ban
<PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> wrote in alt.atheism
AZ Nomad wrote after much deliberation:
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 07:58:01 -0700, Pangur Ban
<PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
atheist@home.com explained :
On 12 Dec 2006 18:55:39 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:qattn2loe02j7r2e6spdlbmgebj80j6lp8@4ax.com:
On 12 Dec 2006 10:45:31 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in
news:slrnens449.oms.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net:
On 12 Dec 2006 00:19:26 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
For many years I have been trying to trace my ancestors, and one
of the sources I use are the tax records the gouverment have kept
of the citizens who were obligated to pay the taxes. Most of my
fowarded to
Oh, finally, my first abuse report :-)
Now if I only could figure out what he is objecting to.
Your posting religious crap to alt.atheism, maybe?
ROFLMAO
You think so? I really must post more often, maybe something about
Luke 6:1-10, that passage really have possibilities :-) although so
far only Pangur Ban seems to be the only one who read the post before
he commented on it.
I read it.
Nothing you should have been jumped over.
Silly responses except for poor Pangur who has apparently been bullied
into apoligizing for some reason.
atheist@home#1554
I was in a way... but not again. I will apologize when I have said
something to which true offense is taken .... I never hesitate to do
so.
I will not apologize again when I have said nothing deserving of an
apology.
I think you should apologize for apologizing so quick.
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We managed five "apologies" in four
sentences. I think that's a record - even for me!!! :-)
Sheesh! Theist Apologetics..........
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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25 Dec 2006 08:06:35 AM |
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After serious thinking stoney wrote :
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:42:10 -0700, Pangur Ban
<PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> wrote in alt.atheism
AZ Nomad wrote after much deliberation:
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 07:58:01 -0700, Pangur Ban
<PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
atheist@home.com explained :
On 12 Dec 2006 18:55:39 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:qattn2loe02j7r2e6spdlbmgebj80j6lp8@4ax.com:
On 12 Dec 2006 10:45:31 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
AZ Nomad <aznomad.2@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in
news:slrnens449.oms.aznomad.2@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net:
On 12 Dec 2006 00:19:26 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson
<lisand@bredband.net> wrote:
For many years I have been trying to trace my ancestors, and one
of the sources I use are the tax records the gouverment have kept
of the citizens who were obligated to pay the taxes. Most of my
fowarded to
Oh, finally, my first abuse report :-)
Now if I only could figure out what he is objecting to.
Your posting religious crap to alt.atheism, maybe?
ROFLMAO
You think so? I really must post more often, maybe something about
Luke 6:1-10, that passage really have possibilities :-) although so
far only Pangur Ban seems to be the only one who read the post before
he commented on it.
I read it.
Nothing you should have been jumped over.
Silly responses except for poor Pangur who has apparently been bullied
into apoligizing for some reason.
atheist@home#1554
I was in a way... but not again. I will apologize when I have said
something to which true offense is taken .... I never hesitate to do so.
I will not apologize again when I have said nothing deserving of an
apology.
I think you should apologize for apologizing so quick.
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We managed five "apologies" in four
sentences. I think that's a record - even for me!!! :-)
Sheesh! Theist Apologetics..........
lol
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30 Dec 2006 05:15:11 PM |
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On Mon, 25 Dec 2006 07:06:35 -0700, Pangur Ban
<PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> wrote in alt.atheism
After serious thinking stoney wrote :
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:42:10 -0700, Pangur Ban
<PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> wrote in alt.atheism
AZ Nomad wrote after much deliberation:
On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 07:58:01 -0700, Pangur Ban
<PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
[]
I was in a way... but not again. I will apologize when I have said
something to which true offense is taken .... I never hesitate to do so.
I will not apologize again when I have said nothing deserving of an
apology.
I think you should apologize for apologizing so quick.
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We managed five "apologies" in four
sentences. I think that's a record - even for me!!! :-)
Sheesh! Theist Apologetics..........
lol
[big grin and wink]
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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12 Dec 2006 04:50:27 PM |
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On 12 Dec 2006 18:55:39 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
You think so? I really must post more often, maybe something about
Luke 6:1-10
You really must read the charter, so you don't keep violating it.
so far only Pangur Ban seems to be the only one who read the post before
he commented on it.
She. And she's a theist, not an atheist.
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rukbat at optonline dot net
Is he willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is impotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Whence then comes evil?
-Epicurus, 3rd c. BCE
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12 Dec 2006 08:33:32 PM |
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After serious thinking Al Klein wrote :
On 12 Dec 2006 18:55:39 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
You think so? I really must post more often, maybe something about
Luke 6:1-10
You really must read the charter, so you don't keep violating it.
so far only Pangur Ban seems to be the only one who read the post before
he commented on it.
She. And she's a theist, not an atheist.
I apologize to both of you for having made any comments on this post.
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13 Dec 2006 07:36:36 AM |
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In <mn.64957d6c82377dab.64065@worldnet.att.net>, on 12/12/06
at 07:33 PM, Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> said:
After serious thinking Al Klein wrote :
On 12 Dec 2006 18:55:39 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
You think so? I really must post more often, maybe something about
Luke 6:1-10
You really must read the charter, so you don't keep violating it.
so far only Pangur Ban seems to be the only one who read the post before
he commented on it.
She. And she's a theist, not an atheist.
I apologize to both of you for having made any comments on this post.
Why? I saw nothing derogatory or inflammatory in your remarks. They were
even properly indicated as being facetious by having a smiley included.
There's no need to apologize when you have done nothing wrong, no answer
nor need to apologize for being human. Of course, I may be incorrect in
that last observation, that my presumption is you're human in a decent one
at that.
walksalone who does not make a habit of holding someone's hands when they
are feeling bad, nor does he make a habit of pointing out what people are
accepting guilt that is not theirs. But because you're relatively new to
this particular madhouse, I will on occasion comment that you have done
nothing wrong, when I have not observed any wrongdoing.
Remember, it's just you and your Harley-Davidson against the world, so
when are you going to charge?
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14 Dec 2006 08:47:14 AM |
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explained on
12/13/2006 :
In <mn.64957d6c82377dab.64065@worldnet.att.net>, on 12/12/06
at 07:33 PM, Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> said:
After serious thinking Al Klein wrote :
On 12 Dec 2006 18:55:39 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
You think so? I really must post more often, maybe something about
Luke 6:1-10
You really must read the charter, so you don't keep violating it.
so far only Pangur Ban seems to be the only one who read the post before
he commented on it.
She. And she's a theist, not an atheist.
I apologize to both of you for having made any comments on this post.
Why? I saw nothing derogatory or inflammatory in your remarks. They were
even properly indicated as being facetious by having a smiley included.
There's no need to apologize when you have done nothing wrong, no answer
nor need to apologize for being human. Of course, I may be incorrect in
that last observation, that my presumption is you're human in a decent one
at that.
I am fairly certain I am human ... my blood is red, my ears are not
pointed, my skin is not green, eyes are human sized, etc. :-)
walksalone who does not make a habit of holding someone's hands when they
are feeling bad, nor does he make a habit of pointing out what people are
accepting guilt that is not theirs. But because you're relatively new to
this particular madhouse, I will on occasion comment that you have done
nothing wrong, when I have not observed any wrongdoing.
Thank you.
Remember, it's just you and your Harley-Davidson against the world, so
when are you going to charge?
Um, the doc won't let me have a Harley, a moped, or even an ATV.... she
says I'd kill myself inside of two weeks trying to do the impossible on
any of the three. Can I just charge ahead on my own two feet??? :-)
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14 Dec 2006 10:20:25 AM |
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In <mn.71d37d6ccbf737c9.64065@worldnet.att.net>, on 12/14/06
at 07:47 AM, Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> said:
walksalone@dastardly.dirty.deeds.done.dirt.cheap.llc explained on
12/13/2006 :
In <mn.64957d6c82377dab.64065@worldnet.att.net>, on 12/12/06
at 07:33 PM, Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> said:
After serious thinking Al Klein wrote :
On 12 Dec 2006 18:55:39 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
snip
so far only Pangur Ban seems to be the only one who read the post before
he commented on it.
She. And she's a theist, not an atheist.
I apologize to both of you for having made any comments on this post.
Why? I saw nothing derogatory or inflammatory in your remarks. They were
even properly indicated as being facetious by having a smiley included.
There's no need to apologize when you have done nothing wrong, no answer
nor need to apologize for being human. Of course, I may be incorrect in
that last observation, that my presumption is you're human in a decent one
at that.
I am fairly certain I am human ... my blood is red, my ears are not
pointed, my skin is not green, eyes are human sized, etc. :-)
So there is no chance that you're a shape shifter? This means you're not
clanned?
walksalone who does not make a habit of holding someone's hands when they
are feeling bad, nor does he make a habit of pointing out what people are
accepting guilt that is not theirs. But because you're relatively new to
this particular madhouse, I will on occasion comment that you have done
nothing wrong, when I have not observed any wrongdoing.
Thank you.
For what, I did not anticipate thanks when I simply point out what I have
observed. Not to mention, the word is well overused and quite frequently
inappropriately so. Still, if it made you feel better of saying it, you
are welcome.
Remember, it's just you and your Harley-Davidson against the world, so
when are you going to charge?
Um, the doc won't let me have a Harley, a moped, or even an ATV.... she
Change doctors.
says I'd kill myself inside of two weeks trying to do the impossible on
any of the three. Can I just charge ahead on my own two feet??? :-)
Paws are better, but normally there are four of those. But then, you
indicate your not a shape shifter. I'm sad to hear that.
walksalone who was mildly surprised to see the above missive, apparently I
have been talking too much.
"It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by
bolts of lightning." Calvin & Hobbes (cartoon characters)
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needs manipulation
skype
If I remember to activate it that is.
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14 Dec 2006 01:18:51 PM |
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explained on
12/14/2006 :
In <mn.71d37d6ccbf737c9.64065@worldnet.att.net>, on 12/14/06
at 07:47 AM, Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> said:
explained on
12/13/2006 :
In <mn.64957d6c82377dab.64065@worldnet.att.net>, on 12/12/06
at 07:33 PM, Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> said:
After serious thinking Al Klein wrote :
On 12 Dec 2006 18:55:39 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
snip
so far only Pangur Ban seems to be the only one who read the post before
he commented on it.
She. And she's a theist, not an atheist.
I apologize to both of you for having made any comments on this post.
Why? I saw nothing derogatory or inflammatory in your remarks. They were
even properly indicated as being facetious by having a smiley included.
There's no need to apologize when you have done nothing wrong, no answer
nor need to apologize for being human. Of course, I may be incorrect in
that last observation, that my presumption is you're human in a decent one
at that.
I am fairly certain I am human ... my blood is red, my ears are not
pointed, my skin is not green, eyes are human sized, etc. :-)
So there is no chance that you're a shape shifter? This means you're not
clanned?
Ah, now that is a different ball of fur. Wereleopard ... belonging to
the Red Cactus clan. Anita Blake fan, by any chance?
walksalone who does not make a habit of holding someone's hands when they
are feeling bad, nor does he make a habit of pointing out what people are
accepting guilt that is not theirs. But because you're relatively new to
this particular madhouse, I will on occasion comment that you have done
nothing wrong, when I have not observed any wrongdoing.
Thank you.
For what, I did not anticipate thanks when I simply point out what I have
observed. Not to mention, the word is well overused and quite frequently
inappropriately so. Still, if it made you feel better of saying it, you
are welcome.
When I say "Thank you", it is always sincerely meant. Receiving a
thank you when one does not expect it can mean the person is truly
appreciative (at least when the words come from me!).
Remember, it's just you and your Harley-Davidson against the world, so
when are you going to charge?
Um, the doc won't let me have a Harley, a moped, or even an ATV.... she
Change doctors.
Wouldn't do any good ... all three have told me the same (Primary Care
doc, surgeon, and Pain Clinic doc). I was told one fall or roll-over,
and I would be dead. Bones are brittle as I don't utilize calcium
properly. :-(
However, If I ever get the money together, an ATV and I may hit the
desert yet!
says I'd kill myself inside of two weeks trying to do the impossible on
any of the three. Can I just charge ahead on my own two feet??? :-)
Paws are better, but normally there are four of those. But then, you
indicate your not a shape shifter. I'm sad to hear that.
No, I am not a Roswell alien ... or a Vulcan. I belong to a Pard. Why
do you suppose I took the name of a cat ... and if you can see it, have
a black kitter as my "face" at the top of my posts??? Shapeshifting
has a long history in my area among the Native Americans.
Unfortunately they are all very evil.
I do enjoy the Thronos Rokke clan and their Ulfric and the .... um....
Blooddrinkers Pard (if memory is correct as to the name) and their
Nimir-Raj. My Pard does not have a Nimir-Raj or Nimir-Ra - as yet.
walksalone who was mildly surprised to see the above missive, apparently I
have been talking too much.
Never enough to suit me! :-) Reading a dupe is double the fun!
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In <mn.72e27d6ce7a7ca83.64065@worldnet.att.net>, on 12/14/06
at 12:18 PM, Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> said:
walksalone@dastardly.dirty.deeds.done.dirt.cheap.llc explained on
12/14/2006 :
In <mn.71d37d6ccbf737c9.64065@worldnet.att.net>, on 12/14/06
at 07:47 AM, Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> said:
walksalone@dastardly.dirty.deeds.done.dirt.cheap.llc explained on
12/13/2006 :
In <mn.64957d6c82377dab.64065@worldnet.att.net>, on 12/12/06
at 07:33 PM, Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> said:
After serious thinking Al Klein wrote :
On 12 Dec 2006 18:55:39 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
snip
There's no need to apologize when you have done nothing wrong, no answer
nor need to apologize for being human. Of course, I may be incorrect in
that last observation, that my presumption is you're human in a decent one
at that.
I am fairly certain I am human ... my blood is red, my ears are not
pointed, my skin is not green, eyes are human sized, etc. :-)
So there is no chance that you're a shape shifter? This means you're not
clanned?
Ah, now that is a different ball of fur. Wereleopard ... belonging to
the Red Cactus clan. Anita Blake fan, by any chance?
Amanda who? When I need fiction of the fantasy variety, I reach for the
masters. I suspect my list of masters does not parallel yours. As to
claned, back home I am claned to the bear & the wolf. One is a provider,
one is a teacher. I will leave the details for ou to figure out.
snip
For what, I did not anticipate thanks when I simply point out what I have
observed. Not to mention, the word is well overused and quite frequently
inappropriately so. Still, if it made you feel better of saying it, you
are welcome.
When I say "Thank you", it is always sincerely meant. Receiving a thank
you when one does not expect it can mean the person is truly
appreciative (at least when the words come from me!).
Qualified then, OK.
Remember, it's just you and your Harley-Davidson against the world, so
when are you going to charge?
Um, the doc won't let me have a Harley, a moped, or even an ATV.... she
Change doctors.
Wouldn't do any good ... all three have told me the same (Primary Care
doc, surgeon, and Pain Clinic doc). I was told one fall or roll-over,
and I would be dead. Bones are brittle as I don't utilize calcium
properly. :-(
What part of change Doctors am I failing to communicate?{SEAG}
However, If I ever get the money together, an ATV and I may hit the
desert yet!
Suzuki four wheelers are about the best I have worked on.
says I'd kill myself inside of two weeks trying to do the impossible on
any of the three. Can I just charge ahead on my own two feet??? :-)
Paws are better, but normally there are four of those. But then, you
indicate your not a shape shifter. I'm sad to hear that.
No, I am not a Roswell alien ... or a Vulcan. I belong to a Pard. Why
do you suppose I took the name of a cat ... and if you can see it, have
Didn't know, or concern myself with what your name conveyed to others, to
me, you are a boon conversation companion. On usenet, it does not get much
better.
a black kitter as my "face" at the top of my posts??? Shapeshifting has [kitter<=>kitten?]
a long history in my area among the Native Americans.
Unfortunately they are all very evil.
Yes, but they live[d] in the high desert environment, to much wind & to
much heat battered the brain over the generations they were there.
Meanwhile, back in the real high country [Rockies, Montana & north,
through Alaska], shapeshifters are not held in anything but high esteem,
for they always benefit humanity. I've no doubt that at least one legend
says otherwise, but to date, I've not heard that one.
I do enjoy the Thronos Rokke clan and their Ulfric and the .... um....
Blooddrinkers Pard (if memory is correct as to the name) and their
Nimir-Raj. My Pard does not have a Nimir-Raj or Nimir-Ra - as yet.
Give it time, humanity seems to always be willing to add the un-needed to
the better elements it presents to the universe.
walksalone who was mildly surprised to see the above missive, apparently I
have been talking too much.
Never enough to suit me! :-) Reading a dupe is double the fun!
Well, yes, I suppose some enjoy my *embarrassing moments* as much as I do.
walksalone who had a spare .000000000000000001picosecond this morning, &
it shows.
CLERGYMAN, n. A man who undertakes the management of our
spiritual affairs as a method of better his temporal ones.
Devils dictionary
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expressed
precisely :
In <mn.72e27d6ce7a7ca83.64065@worldnet.att.net>, on 12/14/06
at 12:18 PM, Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> said:
explained on
12/14/2006 :
In <mn.71d37d6ccbf737c9.64065@worldnet.att.net>, on 12/14/06
at 07:47 AM, Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> said:
explained on
12/13/2006 :
In <mn.64957d6c82377dab.64065@worldnet.att.net>, on 12/12/06
at 07:33 PM, Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> said:
After serious thinking Al Klein wrote :
On 12 Dec 2006 18:55:39 GMT, Lisbeth Andersson <lisand@bredband.net>
wrote:
snip
There's no need to apologize when you have done nothing wrong, no answer
nor need to apologize for being human. Of course, I may be incorrect in
that last observation, that my presumption is you're human in a decent
one at that.
I am fairly certain I am human ... my blood is red, my ears are not
pointed, my skin is not green, eyes are human sized, etc. :-)
So there is no chance that you're a shape shifter? This means you're not
clanned?
Ah, now that is a different ball of fur. Wereleopard ... belonging to
the Red Cactus clan. Anita Blake fan, by any chance?
Amanda who? When I need fiction of the fantasy variety, I reach for the
masters. I suspect my list of masters does not parallel yours.
I am more of a classical Sci-fi reader; not much for fantasy. Well,
Tolkein. This is the only series of fantasy I read - I like the main
character.
As to
claned, back home I am claned to the bear & the wolf. One is a provider,
one is a teacher. I will leave the details for ou to figure out.
If we are speaking non-fantasy, I am clanned to the Turtle (Sioux).
Have a totem on my medicine bag - hand made bag - and I made that bag.
Nearly had a nervous breakdown doing so as I am NOT an artsy-craftsy
person.
Bear provider; wolf teacher. Great lessons to be learned from the wolf
clan.
snip
For what, I did not anticipate thanks when I simply point out what I have
observed. Not to mention, the word is well overused and quite frequently
inappropriately so. Still, if it made you feel better of saying it, you
are welcome.
When I say "Thank you", it is always sincerely meant. Receiving a thank
you when one does not expect it can mean the person is truly
appreciative (at least when the words come from me!).
Qualified then, OK.
Remember, it's just you and your Harley-Davidson against the world, so
when are you going to charge?
Um, the doc won't let me have a Harley, a moped, or even an ATV.... she
Change doctors.
Wouldn't do any good ... all three have told me the same (Primary Care
doc, surgeon, and Pain Clinic doc). I was told one fall or roll-over,
and I would be dead. Bones are brittle as I don't utilize calcium
properly. :-(
What part of change Doctors am I failing to communicate?{SEAG}
Looked up SEAG and got the results:
SEAG Science Education Advisory Group
SEAG Servicio de Extension Agricola y Ganadera (Paraguay)
SEAG South East Asia Games
Don't think any of the three apply. Help?
However, If I ever get the money together, an ATV and I may hit the
desert yet!
Suzuki four wheelers are about the best I have worked on.
A longer trip to a supplier.. but recommendation noted.
says I'd kill myself inside of two weeks trying to do the impossible on
any of the three. Can I just charge ahead on my own two feet??? :-)
Paws are better, but normally there are four of those. But then, you
indicate your not a shape shifter. I'm sad to hear that.
No, I am not a Roswell alien ... or a Vulcan. I belong to a Pard. Why
do you suppose I took the name of a cat ... and if you can see it, have
Didn't know, or concern myself with what your name conveyed to others, to
me, you are a boon conversation companion. On usenet, it does not get much
better.
*Grin* Name is from literature... appropriate for an English Lit
lover.
a black kitter as my "face" at the top of my posts??? Shapeshifting has
[kitter<=>kitten?] a long history in my area among the Native Americans.
Unfortunately they are all very evil.
Yes, but they live[d] in the high desert environment, to much wind & to
much heat battered the brain over the generations they were there.
Meanwhile, back in the real high country [Rockies, Montana & north,
through Alaska], shapeshifters are not held in anything but high esteem,
for they always benefit humanity. I've no doubt that at least one legend
says otherwise, but to date, I've not heard that one.
I am in the high desert ... have read the Navajo and other NA stories.
The heat and wind do batter!
I do enjoy the Thronos Rokke clan and their Ulfric and the .... um....
Blooddrinkers Pard (if memory is correct as to the name) and their
Nimir-Raj. My Pard does not have a Nimir-Raj or Nimir-Ra - as yet.
Give it time, humanity seems to always be willing to add the un-needed to
the better elements it presents to the universe.
I'd prefer no leader for the pard... male or female... democracy even
in a pard.
walksalone who was mildly surprised to see the above missive, apparently I
have been talking too much.
Never enough to suit me! :-) Reading a dupe is double the fun!
Well, yes, I suppose some enjoy my *embarrassing moments* as much as I do.
walksalone who had a spare .000000000000000001picosecond this morning, &
it shows.
LOL.... always glad to share with a boon companion!
CLERGYMAN, n. A man who undertakes the management of our
spiritual affairs as a method of better his temporal ones.
Devils dictionary
--
Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Avoiding taxes. |
16 Dec 2006 02:37:02 PM |
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On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 09:00:42 -0700, Pangur Ban
<PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
walksalone@dastardly.dirty.deeds.done.dirt.cheap.llc expressed
precisely :
What part of change Doctors am I failing to communicate?{SEAG}
Looked up SEAG and got the results:
SEAG Science Education Advisory Group
SEAG Servicio de Extension Agricola y Ganadera (Paraguay)
SEAG South East Asia Games
Don't think any of the three apply. Help?
Sarcastic Evil Atheist Grin?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"To assume the existence of an unperceivable being ... does not facilitate understanding
the orderliness we find in the perceivable world."
- Letter to an Iowa student who asked, What is God? July, 1953; Einstein Archive 59-085
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
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| User: "Randy Day" |
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| Title: Re: Avoiding taxes. |
16 Dec 2006 11:02:23 AM |
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Pangur Ban wrote:
[snip]
Wouldn't do any good ... all three have told me the same (Primary
Care doc, surgeon, and Pain Clinic doc). I was told one fall or
roll-over, and I would be dead. Bones are brittle as I don't utilize
calcium properly. :-(
What part of change Doctors am I failing to communicate?{SEAG}
Looked up SEAG and got the results:
SEAG Science Education Advisory Group
SEAG Servicio de Extension Agricola y Ganadera (Paraguay)
SEAG South East Asia Games
Secret Evil Atheist Grin? (I dunno, never
seen that one before either...)
--
R
Atheist Chair,
EAC Disciplinary Committee
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Avoiding taxes. |
16 Dec 2006 11:31:53 AM |
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In <zEVgh.495878$R63.259825@pd7urf1no>, on 12/16/06
at 05:02 PM, Randy Day <randy.day@shaw.cax> said:
Pangur Ban wrote:
[snip]
Wouldn't do any good ... all three have told me the same (Primary
Care doc, surgeon, and Pain Clinic doc). I was told one fall or
roll-over, and I would be dead. Bones are brittle as I don't utilize
calcium properly. :-(
What part of change Doctors am I failing to communicate?{SEAG}
Looked up SEAG and got the results:
SEAG Science Education Advisory Group
SEAG Servicio de Extension Agricola y Ganadera (Paraguay)
SEAG South East Asia Games
Secret Evil Atheist Grin? (I dunno, never
seen that one before either...)
Slow Evil Atheist Grin, & now you know & don't have to wonder again.
walksalone who thought everyone could figure that one out. Now had it been
GLAPOAFTCWNL [grinning like a possum on a full trash can with no lid], I
could understand the confusion. Sheesh, doesn't anyone have any military
training anymore?
* Sir Winston Churchill
"Broadly speaking, human beings may be divided into three classes: those
who are billed to death, those who are worried to death and those who are
bored to death."
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| User: "Randy Day" |
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| Title: Re: Avoiding taxes. |
16 Dec 2006 02:49:06 PM |
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wrote:
[snip]
What part of change Doctors am I failing to communicate?{SEAG}
Looked up SEAG and got the results:
SEAG Science Education Advisory Group
SEAG Servicio de Extension Agricola y Ganadera (Paraguay)
SEAG South East Asia Games
Secret Evil Atheist Grin? (I dunno, never
seen that one before either...)
Slow Evil Atheist Grin, & now you know & don't have to wonder again.
Hey, I _got_ 3 out of 4! I wasn't expecting
the Spanish Inqui^H^H^H^H^HAcronym Test!
[snip]
--
R
Atheist Chair,
EAC Disciplinary Committee
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