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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Yang, AthD \h.c"
Date: 08 May 2004 02:06:24 AM
Object: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?)
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/655150.cms
NEW YORK: Ahmed Chalabi, a long-time Pentagon favourite to become leader of
Iraq after maintenance Hussein's ouster, and some of his top aides supplied
Iran with sensitive information on American occupation of Iraq which could
"get people killed," a media report said on Monday quoting top Bush
administration officials.
--
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -767 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
.

User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 08 May 2004 08:46:34 PM
In article <w5CdnajxyJyhFgDdRVn-tw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

uestion that I never got an answer to
by the chickenhawks in this group:
How is the US safer from domestic terrorism
now that we are bogged down in Iraq ?


One less dictator that will finance and support terrorism
Strong message sent across to others that the U.S. will not stop until
we finish


Bush said that there was no evidence Saddam was involved
with the events of 911.


We do know that Saddam harbored terrorist.

LIE. We don't know that at all.

We do know that Saddam financed terrorist

LIE. We don't know that at all.


Bush said not only are we going to hunt down the terrorist we would hunt
down those who helped terrorist as well.
And we are doing that.

Bush is creating terrorists and now Kerry will have to spend tax money
to deal with it.



Bush said he did have massive

amounts of WMD.


Yes, and so did half of congress and other world leaders.

Push has been assigned to be president. Ever hear of "responsibility?"


We were all lead to believe he had them.

LIE.



So Bush invades, the WMD

dissappear,


They could have destroyed them prior to us going in

LOL! And we never noticed.

They could have hidden them in the sand

Sure. Or maybe they are under his bed. Did anyone check there?

They could have transported them to Syria
They could have sold them.

We don't know


now Bush says the real reason was

the rape rooms. So, if we cannot find the
WMD do the terrorists now have them ?


That is a very scarey possibility

He didn't have them. Get over it.
.
User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 08 May 2004 09:50:06 PM
On Sat, 08 May 2004 18:46:34 -0700, "David W. Barnes"
<VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote:

In article <w5CdnajxyJyhFgDdRVn-tw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

uestion that I never got an answer to
by the chickenhawks in this group:
How is the US safer from domestic terrorism
now that we are bogged down in Iraq ?


One less dictator that will finance and support terrorism
Strong message sent across to others that the U.S. will not stop until
we finish


Bush said that there was no evidence Saddam was involved
with the events of 911.


We do know that Saddam harbored terrorist.


LIE. We don't know that at all.

There were stories of an Al Quaeda camp - which turned out to be in
Kurdish controlled territory - they guys we were protecting and
preventing Hussein treating like the insurgents they were.

.
User: "osprey"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 09 May 2004 02:33:59 AM
Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message news:<iv6r90dfiqk56onldtrh3r9gkpr6g2jdt6@4ax.com>...

On Sat, 08 May 2004 18:46:34 -0700, "David W. Barnes"
<VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote:

In article <w5CdnajxyJyhFgDdRVn-tw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

uestion that I never got an answer to
by the chickenhawks in this group:
How is the US safer from domestic terrorism
now that we are bogged down in Iraq ?


One less dictator that will finance and support terrorism
Strong message sent across to others that the U.S. will not stop until
we finish


Bush said that there was no evidence Saddam was involved
with the events of 911.


We do know that Saddam harbored terrorist.


LIE. We don't know that at all.


There were stories of an Al Quaeda camp - which turned out to be in
Kurdish controlled territory - they guys we were protecting and
preventing Hussein treating like the insurgents they were.

Do you have a source for further research on this?
.
User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 09 May 2004 02:41:29 AM
In article <8912d58d.0405082333.ede8e09@posting.google.com>, osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

Christopher A. Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:<iv6r90dfiqk56onldtrh3r9gkpr6g2jdt6@4ax.com>...

On Sat, 08 May 2004 18:46:34 -0700, "David W. Barnes"
<VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote:

In article <w5CdnajxyJyhFgDdRVn-tw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

uestion that I never got an answer to
by the chickenhawks in this group:
How is the US safer from domestic terrorism
now that we are bogged down in Iraq ?


One less dictator that will finance and support terrorism
Strong message sent across to others that the U.S. will not stop
until
we finish


Bush said that there was no evidence Saddam was involved
with the events of 911.


We do know that Saddam harbored terrorist.


LIE. We don't know that at all.


There were stories of an Al Quaeda camp - which turned out to be in
Kurdish controlled territory - they guys we were protecting and
preventing Hussein treating like the insurgents they were.



Do you have a source for further research on this?

Notice how interested Heishman is.
.


User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 08 May 2004 10:27:00 PM
In article <iv6r90dfiqk56onldtrh3r9gkpr6g2jdt6@4ax.com>, Christopher A.
Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:

On Sat, 08 May 2004 18:46:34 -0700, "David W. Barnes"
<VoteKerry@dbarnes.com> wrote:

In article <w5CdnajxyJyhFgDdRVn-tw@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

uestion that I never got an answer to
by the chickenhawks in this group:
How is the US safer from domestic terrorism
now that we are bogged down in Iraq ?


One less dictator that will finance and support terrorism
Strong message sent across to others that the U.S. will not stop until
we finish


Bush said that there was no evidence Saddam was involved
with the events of 911.


We do know that Saddam harbored terrorist.


LIE. We don't know that at all.


There were stories of an Al Quaeda camp - which turned out to be in
Kurdish controlled territory - they guys we were protecting and
preventing Hussein treating like the insurgents they were.

And terrorists trained in America. Were we "harboring them?"
.



User: "Yang, AthD \h.c"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 08 May 2004 12:08:51 PM
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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Over 720 less dead had Dumb-***** not sent them to
Iraq in the first place. Bush needs to send more troops
because it is getting worse. GET IT ?


Get this
300,000 dead thanks the the dicator that we had finally gotten out
Saddam supported and harbored terrorist
Those 720 died doing their job
Get that?

And the relatives fo these 300K wants US out of Iraq. Of course this is not
about democracy nor human rights, it's about oil. Hundreds of thousands of
people have been killed in Suden, where is your self-serving compassionate
conservatism?
--
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -768 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 08 May 2004 12:56:43 PM
"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@//AWOLBUSH//mail.com> wrote in message
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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Over 720 less dead had Dumb-***** not sent them to
Iraq in the first place. Bush needs to send more troops
because it is getting worse. GET IT ?


Get this
300,000 dead thanks the the dicator that we had finally gotten out
Saddam supported and harbored terrorist
Those 720 died doing their job
Get that?


Sorry but my computer automatically rejects insanse people's comments
.
User: "Big Bucket"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 08 May 2004 01:04:09 PM
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in news:teOdnV9hANmrggDdRVn-
hQ@comcast.com:


"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@//AWOLBUSH//mail.com> wrote in message
news:wMCdncuh9rS_iQDdRVn-ug@comcast.com...


"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:ELednWUMGdTblADdRVn-vg@comcast.com...

Over 720 less dead had Dumb-***** not sent them to
Iraq in the first place. Bush needs to send more troops
because it is getting worse. GET IT ?


Get this
300,000 dead thanks the the dicator that we had finally gotten out
Saddam supported and harbored terrorist
Those 720 died doing their job
Get that?




Sorry but my computer automatically rejects insanse people's comments

So you're posting on, what - your mother's computer?
.

User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 08 May 2004 01:03:48 PM
In article <teOdnV9hANmrggDdRVn-hQ@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@//AWOLBUSH//mail.com> wrote in message
news:wMCdncuh9rS_iQDdRVn-ug@comcast.com...


"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:ELednWUMGdTblADdRVn-vg@comcast.com...

Over 720 less dead had Dumb-***** not sent them to
Iraq in the first place. Bush needs to send more troops
because it is getting worse. GET IT ?


Get this
300,000 dead thanks the the dicator that we had finally gotten out
Saddam supported and harbored terrorist
Those 720 died doing their job
Get that?




Sorry but my computer automatically rejects insanse people's comments

insanse? Doesn't you computer have a spell checker?
.



User: "David W. Barnes"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 08 May 2004 11:47:49 AM
In article <ELednWUMGdTblADdRVn-vg@comcast.com>, Osprey
<noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"MMikey" <what@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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"MMikey" <what@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@//AWOLBUSH//mail.com> wrote in message
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/655150.cms

NEW YORK: Ahmed Chalabi, a long-time Pentagon favourite to become

leader

of

Iraq after maintenance Hussein's ouster, and some of his top aides

supplied

Iran with sensitive information on American occupation of Iraq which

could

"get people killed," a media report said on Monday quoting top Bush
administration officials.


Getting people killed is what Dumb-***** Bush does best.
So now he is going to get lots more killed by sending
more of our troops to Iraq. One year after
"Mission Accomplished" things are worse
than ever. The neo-cons are too dumb
to understand.


I know this is hard for you to understand.
But more troops will get killed if we don't send more troops to Iraq.
Almost all the Democrats and Republicans agree with that.
Oh, and the "Mission Accomplished" crap you are trying to stir up.
Get it right, Bush said that there was still a long way to go that day

and

he was right.
We were not finished and he never said we were.


Over 720 less dead had Dumb-***** not sent them to
Iraq in the first place. Bush needs to send more troops
because it is getting worse. GET IT ?


Get this
300,000 dead thanks the the dicator that we had finally gotten out
Saddam supported and harbored terrorist
Those 720 died doing their job
Get that?

Except that wasn't the reason for being their. It is just an excuse in
hindsight. I guess you would support the Iraqi coming over here and
taking Bush back for trial, too.




A year ago Dumb-***** landed on an aircraft carrier
and proclaimed "Major Combat Operations" over.
He was wrong, was he not ?


No, for that particular mission he wasn't wrong.
We accomplished that phase of the war.

ROFL!! What a moron. He meant the war. More people have died since
"that phase" than before. You would support Bush if we had troops in
other countries murdering, raping, and torturing their people. Oh...
Wait...



We took more

casualties last month than any month since the
war started.


Yea, I know we have...the media plays it over and over and over

But not nearly enough. Bush censors most images. No need the American
public knowing the truth.



As long as we are in

Iraq major combat operations will never end.
Our troops in Iraq are sitting ducks for insurgents.
If one ***** like Sadr and his rag tag militia can
cause such major problems what will happen when
a more organized, better armed group of insurgents
decides to assault our troops ?


We are there now and the job must be finished.
Pull out and you make a HUGE mistake

Bush is talking about "pulling out."




I will pose a question that I never got an answer to
by the chickenhawks in this group:
How is the US safer from domestic terrorism
now that we are bogged down in Iraq ?


One less dictator that will finance and support terrorism

Can Bush be next?

Strong message sent across to others that the U.S. will not stop until
we finish

The message they are hearing is we will not stop until we are done
murdering, raping, and torturing their people.




It is a shame you don't support our troops


People who say ***** like this are assholes.


Truth hurts doesn't it

You are a coward who hides behind the flag. Bush asked YOU to
volunteer for duty in Iraq. You turned him down. Now you advocate
others dying even though you refuse to help after being asked.
Truth hurts doesn't it?
.

User: "Bob Dog"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 09 May 2004 09:26:38 AM
"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message news:<J9Gdnc3jd54xQQHdRVn-tw@comcast.com>...


I know this is hard for you to understand.
But more troops will get killed if we don't send more troops to Iraq.

To borrow from Wee Willie Keeler, you can't "hit 'em
where they ain't": if you don't want GIs killed take
them out of Iraq. Sending more just makes targeting
by Iraqi freedom fighters that much easier.

Almost all the Democrats and Republicans agree with that.
Oh, and the "Mission Accomplished" crap you are trying to stir up.
Get it right, Bush said that there was still a long way to go that day and
he was right.

From FOX, the bastion of "fair and balanced" reporting:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,85777,00.html
"[M]ajor combat operations in Iraq have ended."
Those are Shrub's words, not Yang's put into Shrub's mouth.

We were not finished and he never said we were.

True, Shrub said the American terrorist war against other
nations was not over. But Shrub *did* say the war against
Iraq was over. Your revisionism is showing.

It is a shame you don't support our troops

Then why aren't you there working on the supply lines if
you support them so much?
Bob Dog
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 09 May 2004 02:31:33 PM
"Bob Dog" <bg12345@apexmail.com> wrote in message
news:4fa573de.0405090626.2da4eafc@posting.google.com...

"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message

news:<J9Gdnc3jd54xQQHdRVn-tw@comcast.com>...


I know this is hard for you to understand.
But more troops will get killed if we don't send more troops to Iraq.


To borrow from Wee Willie Keeler, you can't "hit 'em
where they ain't": if you don't want GIs killed take
them out of Iraq. Sending more just makes targeting
by Iraqi freedom fighters that much easier.

Taking them out right now sets up the stage for thousands to be killed in
the future.
We have to finish the job.



Almost all the Democrats and Republicans agree with that.
Oh, and the "Mission Accomplished" crap you are trying to stir up.
Get it right, Bush said that there was still a long way to go that day

and

he was right.


From FOX, the bastion of "fair and balanced" reporting:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,85777,00.html

"[M]ajor combat operations in Iraq have ended."

Those are Shrub's words, not Yang's put into Shrub's mouth.


We were not finished and he never said we were.


True, Shrub said the American terrorist war against other
nations was not over. But Shrub *did* say the war against
Iraq was over. Your revisionism is showing.


It is a shame you don't support our troops


Then why aren't you there working on the supply lines if
you support them so much?

Oh, so in other words you are saying a person must be over there in order to
support the troops.



Bob Dog

.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 09 May 2004 03:32:05 PM
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Bob Dog" <bg12345@apexmail.com> wrote in message
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message

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I know this is hard for you to understand.
But more troops will get killed if we don't send more troops to Iraq.


To borrow from Wee Willie Keeler, you can't "hit 'em
where they ain't": if you don't want GIs killed take
them out of Iraq. Sending more just makes targeting
by Iraqi freedom fighters that much easier.


Taking them out right now sets up the stage for thousands to be killed in
the future.
We have to finish the job.

***** Heishman doesn't _really_ mean "we". He means that kids young
and poor enought o be soldiers get to die, and people who earn money
get to pay the bills, and Heishman gets to sit on his *****.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.


User: "Yang, AthD \h.c"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 09 May 2004 02:00:39 PM
"Bob Dog" <bg12345@apexmail.com> wrote in message
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Almost all the Democrats and Republicans agree with that.
Oh, and the "Mission Accomplished" crap you are trying to stir up.
Get it right, Bush said that there was still a long way to go that day

and

he was right.


From FOX, the bastion of "fair and balanced" reporting:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,85777,00.html

"[M]ajor combat operations in Iraq have ended."

Those are Shrub's words, not Yang's put into Shrub's mouth.

Being a NeoCon means you don;t have to let reality dictate your woldview.

We were not finished and he never said we were.


True, Shrub said the American terrorist war against other
nations was not over. But Shrub *did* say the war against
Iraq was over. Your revisionism is showing.


It is a shame you don't support our troops


Then why aren't you there working on the supply lines if
you support them so much?

Becuase ***** NeoCons can talk the talk but can't walk the walk.
--
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -770 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
.

User: "osprey"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 09 May 2004 03:06:42 PM
(Bob Dog) wrote in message news:<4fa573de.0405090626.2da4eafc@posting.google.com>...

"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message news:<J9Gdnc3jd54xQQHdRVn-tw@comcast.com>...


I know this is hard for you to understand.
But more troops will get killed if we don't send more troops to Iraq.


To borrow from Wee Willie Keeler, you can't "hit 'em
where they ain't": if you don't want GIs killed take
them out of Iraq. Sending more just makes targeting
by Iraqi freedom fighters that much easier.


Almost all the Democrats and Republicans agree with that.
Oh, and the "Mission Accomplished" crap you are trying to stir up.
Get it right, Bush said that there was still a long way to go that day and
he was right.


From FOX, the bastion of "fair and balanced" reporting:

Could be why they are beating other news networks in the ratings and
advertisers


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,85777,00.html

"[M]ajor combat operations in Iraq have ended."

Those are Shrub's words, not Yang's put into Shrub's mouth.


We were not finished and he never said we were.


True, Shrub said the American terrorist war against other
nations was not over. But Shrub *did* say the war against
Iraq was over. Your revisionism is showing.

No, that is not what he said. You liberals take one sentence from an
entire speech and try to twist it all around.
Yes he said major combat operations have ended, he did NOT say the war
in Iraq was over.
I just got done reading the entire speech, something maybe you should
do instead of just picking one line out of several lines.
He also said in that speech
"In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have
prevailed. And now our coalition is engaged in securing and
reconstructing that country."
.... "The war on terror is not over; yet it is not endless. We do not
know the day of final victory, but we have seen the turning of the
tide. No act of the terrorists will change our purpose, or weaken our
resolve, or alter their fate."
He may not have had the best choice of words in that speech, and I
will agree that the planning for after the major part of the war is
awful, and I will also agree Bush is responsible as well as others who
are in the position to make those decisions for planning.
I will not; however, accept attempts to distort what was said and make
it sound like something it wasn't.
To take one line out of many, is dishonest and not fair at all.



It is a shame you don't support our troops


Then why aren't you there working on the supply lines if
you support them so much?

I already responded to that line in another post.
It appears you feel that the only way to support troops is to be over
there personally.
.
User: "Mitchell Holman"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 09 May 2004 03:27:11 PM
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bg12345@apexmail.com (Bob Dog) wrote in message
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I know this is hard for you to understand.
But more troops will get killed if we don't send more troops to Iraq.


To borrow from Wee Willie Keeler, you can't "hit 'em
where they ain't": if you don't want GIs killed take
them out of Iraq. Sending more just makes targeting
by Iraqi freedom fighters that much easier.


Almost all the Democrats and Republicans agree with that.
Oh, and the "Mission Accomplished" crap you are trying to stir up.
Get it right, Bush said that there was still a long way to go that
day and he was right.


From FOX, the bastion of "fair and balanced" reporting:


Could be why they are beating other news networks in the ratings and
advertisers

Weren't you the one claiming that "ratings
don't matter" when it came to Rush and Dr. Laura's
TV shows that flopped?
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 09 May 2004 03:29:03 PM
"Mitchell Holman" <ta2eeneNoEmail@comcast.com> wrote in message
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noneedtoknow@mail.com (osprey) wrote in
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bg12345@apexmail.com (Bob Dog) wrote in message
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"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
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I know this is hard for you to understand.
But more troops will get killed if we don't send more troops to Iraq.


To borrow from Wee Willie Keeler, you can't "hit 'em
where they ain't": if you don't want GIs killed take
them out of Iraq. Sending more just makes targeting
by Iraqi freedom fighters that much easier.


Almost all the Democrats and Republicans agree with that.
Oh, and the "Mission Accomplished" crap you are trying to stir up.
Get it right, Bush said that there was still a long way to go that
day and he was right.


From FOX, the bastion of "fair and balanced" reporting:


Could be why they are beating other news networks in the ratings and
advertisers



Weren't you the one claiming that "ratings
don't matter" when it came to Rush and Dr. Laura's
TV shows that flopped?

No
.


User: ""

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 09 May 2004 03:09:54 PM
On 9 May 2004 13:06:42 -0700,
(osprey) wrote:

bg12345@apexmail.com (Bob Dog) wrote in message news:<4fa573de.0405090626.2da4eafc@posting.google.com>...

"Osprey" <

> wrote in message news:<J9Gdnc3jd54xQQHdRVn-tw@comcast.com>...


I know this is hard for you to understand.
But more troops will get killed if we don't send more troops to Iraq.


To borrow from Wee Willie Keeler, you can't "hit 'em
where they ain't": if you don't want GIs killed take
them out of Iraq. Sending more just makes targeting
by Iraqi freedom fighters that much easier.


Almost all the Democrats and Republicans agree with that.
Oh, and the "Mission Accomplished" crap you are trying to stir up.
Get it right, Bush said that there was still a long way to go that day and
he was right.


From FOX, the bastion of "fair and balanced" reporting:


Could be why they are beating other news networks in the ratings and
advertisers


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,85777,00.html

"[M]ajor combat operations in Iraq have ended."

Those are Shrub's words, not Yang's put into Shrub's mouth.


We were not finished and he never said we were.


True, Shrub said the American terrorist war against other
nations was not over. But Shrub *did* say the war against
Iraq was over. Your revisionism is showing.


No, that is not what he said. You liberals take one sentence from an
entire speech and try to twist it all around.

Yes he said major combat operations have ended, he did NOT say the war
in Iraq was over.
I just got done reading the entire speech, something maybe you should
do instead of just picking one line out of several lines.

He also said in that speech


"In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have
prevailed. And now our coalition is engaged in securing and
reconstructing that country."

... "The war on terror is not over; yet it is not endless. We do not
know the day of final victory, but we have seen the turning of the
tide. No act of the terrorists will change our purpose, or weaken our
resolve, or alter their fate."


He may not have had the best choice of words in that speech, and I
will agree that the planning for after the major part of the war is
awful, and I will also agree Bush is responsible as well as others who
are in the position to make those decisions for planning.
I will not; however, accept attempts to distort what was said and make
it sound like something it wasn't.

To take one line out of many, is dishonest and not fair at all.

Well at least you've stopped trying to pretend the "mission
accomplished" banner applied to the ships mission.
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 09 May 2004 03:13:45 PM
<retrogrouch@comcast.net> wrote in message
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On 9 May 2004 13:06:42 -0700,

(osprey) wrote:

bg12345@apexmail.com (Bob Dog) wrote in message

news:<4fa573de.0405090626.2da4eafc@posting.google.com>...

"Osprey" <

> wrote in message

news:<J9Gdnc3jd54xQQHdRVn-tw@comcast.com>...


I know this is hard for you to understand.
But more troops will get killed if we don't send more troops to Iraq.


To borrow from Wee Willie Keeler, you can't "hit 'em
where they ain't": if you don't want GIs killed take
them out of Iraq. Sending more just makes targeting
by Iraqi freedom fighters that much easier.


Almost all the Democrats and Republicans agree with that.
Oh, and the "Mission Accomplished" crap you are trying to stir up.
Get it right, Bush said that there was still a long way to go that

day and

he was right.


From FOX, the bastion of "fair and balanced" reporting:


Could be why they are beating other news networks in the ratings and
advertisers


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,85777,00.html

"[M]ajor combat operations in Iraq have ended."

Those are Shrub's words, not Yang's put into Shrub's mouth.


We were not finished and he never said we were.


True, Shrub said the American terrorist war against other
nations was not over. But Shrub *did* say the war against
Iraq was over. Your revisionism is showing.


No, that is not what he said. You liberals take one sentence from an
entire speech and try to twist it all around.

Yes he said major combat operations have ended, he did NOT say the war
in Iraq was over.
I just got done reading the entire speech, something maybe you should
do instead of just picking one line out of several lines.

He also said in that speech


"In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have
prevailed. And now our coalition is engaged in securing and
reconstructing that country."

... "The war on terror is not over; yet it is not endless. We do not
know the day of final victory, but we have seen the turning of the
tide. No act of the terrorists will change our purpose, or weaken our
resolve, or alter their fate."


He may not have had the best choice of words in that speech, and I
will agree that the planning for after the major part of the war is
awful, and I will also agree Bush is responsible as well as others who
are in the position to make those decisions for planning.
I will not; however, accept attempts to distort what was said and make
it sound like something it wasn't.

To take one line out of many, is dishonest and not fair at all.



Well at least you've stopped trying to pretend the "mission
accomplished" banner applied to the ships mission.

That would be a lie, since I never pretended that to begin with.
Why would you need to try and go to that level?
What is the point in lying?
.


User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 09 May 2004 03:33:15 PM
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

bg12345@apexmail.com (Bob Dog) wrote in message news:<4fa573de.0405090626.2da4eafc@posting.google.com>...

"Osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message news:<J9Gdnc3jd54xQQHdRVn-tw@comcast.com>...


I know this is hard for you to understand.
But more troops will get killed if we don't send more troops to Iraq.


To borrow from Wee Willie Keeler, you can't "hit 'em
where they ain't": if you don't want GIs killed take
them out of Iraq. Sending more just makes targeting
by Iraqi freedom fighters that much easier.


Almost all the Democrats and Republicans agree with that.
Oh, and the "Mission Accomplished" crap you are trying to stir up.
Get it right, Bush said that there was still a long way to go that day and
he was right.


From FOX, the bastion of "fair and balanced" reporting:


Could be why they are beating other news networks in the ratings and
advertisers

Hitler was popular, too.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.



User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 08 May 2004 01:35:57 PM
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"MMikey" <what@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Getting people killed is what Dumb-***** Bush does best.
So now he is going to get lots more killed by sending
more of our troops to Iraq. One year after
"Mission Accomplished" things are worse
than ever. The neo-cons are too dumb
to understand.


I know this is hard for you to understand.
But more troops will get killed if we don't send more troops to Iraq.

More billions spent on Iraq. Meanwhile taxes go up and services get
cut.

Oh, and the "Mission Accomplished" crap you are trying to stir up.
Get it right, Bush said that there was still a long way to go that day and
he was right.
We were not finished and he never said we were.

"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."
Bush in May of 2003.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Yang, AthD \h.c"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 08 May 2004 04:48:18 PM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"MMikey" <what@yahoo.com> wrote in message


Getting people killed is what Dumb-***** Bush does best.
So now he is going to get lots more killed by sending
more of our troops to Iraq. One year after
"Mission Accomplished" things are worse
than ever. The neo-cons are too dumb
to understand.


I know this is hard for you to understand.
But more troops will get killed if we don't send more troops to Iraq.


More billions spent on Iraq. Meanwhile taxes go up and services get
cut.

Oh, and the "Mission Accomplished" crap you are trying to stir up.
Get it right, Bush said that there was still a long way to go that day

and

he was right.
We were not finished and he never said we were.


"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."
Bush in May of 2003.

Being a NeoCon means it's okay to lie, even when you're caught lying
Yang.
.

User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 08 May 2004 05:35:33 PM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c7j9ac$a7h$1@bolt.sonic.net...

Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"MMikey" <what@yahoo.com> wrote in message


Getting people killed is what Dumb-***** Bush does best.
So now he is going to get lots more killed by sending
more of our troops to Iraq. One year after
"Mission Accomplished" things are worse
than ever. The neo-cons are too dumb
to understand.


I know this is hard for you to understand.
But more troops will get killed if we don't send more troops to Iraq.


More billions spent on Iraq. Meanwhile taxes go up and services get
cut.

Don't ***** about taxes, you are going to support someone who is going to
raise them.


Oh, and the "Mission Accomplished" crap you are trying to stir up.
Get it right, Bush said that there was still a long way to go that day

and

he was right.
We were not finished and he never said we were.


"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."
Bush in May of 2003.

Yea, that particular mission...get it right.
That was the major combat operation..to oust the leader of Iraq.
He never said it was over


--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net

.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 08 May 2004 05:57:19 PM
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c7j9ac$a7h$1@bolt.sonic.net...

Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"MMikey" <what@yahoo.com> wrote in message


Getting people killed is what Dumb-***** Bush does best.
So now he is going to get lots more killed by sending
more of our troops to Iraq. One year after
"Mission Accomplished" things are worse
than ever. The neo-cons are too dumb
to understand.


I know this is hard for you to understand.
But more troops will get killed if we don't send more troops to Iraq.


More billions spent on Iraq. Meanwhile taxes go up and services get
cut.



Don't ***** about taxes, you are going to support someone who is going to
raise them.

You already support someone who raises them.

Oh, and the "Mission Accomplished" crap you are trying to stir up.
Get it right, Bush said that there was still a long way to go that day

and

he was right.
We were not finished and he never said we were.


"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."
Bush in May of 2003.


Yea, that particular mission...get it right.

Are you insane? Do you see words and then imagine that they say
whatever you want them to say?

That was the major combat operation..to oust the leader of Iraq.

That was half a year before Saddam was captured, moron.

He never said it was over

"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 08 May 2004 06:08:38 PM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:


"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
news:c7j9ac$a7h$1@bolt.sonic.net...

Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"MMikey" <what@yahoo.com> wrote in message


Getting people killed is what Dumb-***** Bush does best.
So now he is going to get lots more killed by sending
more of our troops to Iraq. One year after
"Mission Accomplished" things are worse
than ever. The neo-cons are too dumb
to understand.


I know this is hard for you to understand.
But more troops will get killed if we don't send more troops to Iraq.


More billions spent on Iraq. Meanwhile taxes go up and services get
cut.



Don't ***** about taxes, you are going to support someone who is going to
raise them.


You already support someone who raises them.

Oh, and the "Mission Accomplished" crap you are trying to stir up.
Get it right, Bush said that there was still a long way to go that day

and

he was right.
We were not finished and he never said we were.


"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."
Bush in May of 2003.


Yea, that particular mission...get it right.


Are you insane? Do you see words and then imagine that they say
whatever you want them to say?

That was the major combat operation..to oust the leader of Iraq.


That was half a year before Saddam was captured, moron.

Idiot, he was DONE at that point...


He never said it was over


"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."

He NEVER said it was over
He said we still had a long way to go.
You liberals distorted this WAY out of proportion
I agree that our administration hasn't handled the war right AFTER
Saddam had fallen, and I agree that the Bush administration should
be held accountable.
But I am not going to pretend and lie and distort what Bush said like you
are
for POLITICAL REASONS only
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 09 May 2004 01:20:12 AM
Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message

He never said it was over


"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."


He NEVER said it was over

"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."

He said we still had a long way to go.

"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."

You liberals distorted this WAY out of proportion

"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Yang, AthD \h.c"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 09 May 2004 03:02:02 AM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message


He never said it was over


"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."


He NEVER said it was over


"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."

He said we still had a long way to go.


"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."

You liberals distorted this WAY out of proportion


"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."

Or as Tucker Carlson has observed- NeoCons are compulsive liars, even when
caught in their own lies.
"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."
-AWOL Bush, 5/1/2003
http://www.state.gov/p/nea/rls/rm/20203.htm
--
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -768 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
.

User: "osprey"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 09 May 2004 05:37:32 AM
(Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c7kiir$ge6$1@bolt.sonic.net>...

Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <

> wrote in message


He never said it was over


"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."


He NEVER said it was over


"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."

He said we still had a long way to go.


"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."

You liberals distorted this WAY out of proportion


"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."

So cutting through your B.S., you prefer to distort and lie
.
User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 09 May 2004 12:36:38 PM
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message news:<c7kiir$ge6$1@bolt.sonic.net>...

Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message


He never said it was over


"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."


He NEVER said it was over


"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."

He said we still had a long way to go.


"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."

You liberals distorted this WAY out of proportion


"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."



So cutting through your B.S., you prefer to distort and lie

Tell everybody how quoting Bush is "distort and lie", *****.
Heishman cannot handle the fact that his idol, the Glorious Leader
Bush said "major combat operations in Iraq have ended", and so *****
Heishman whines and lies about people instead.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Osprey"

Title: Re: AWOL Bush's Iraqi Carpetbagger Gives Secrets to Iran, Putting GI's in Danger (re: Why Are NeoCon So incompetent?) 09 May 2004 02:32:25 PM
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message
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osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

rfischer@bolt.sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in message

news:<c7kiir$ge6$1@bolt.sonic.net>...

Osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:

"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@bolt.sonic.net> wrote in message


He never said it was over


"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."


He NEVER said it was over


"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."

He said we still had a long way to go.


"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."

You liberals distorted this WAY out of proportion


"major combat operations in Iraq have ended."



So cutting through your B.S., you prefer to distort and lie


Tell everybody how quoting Bush is "distort and lie", *****.

Heishman cannot handle the fact that his idol, the Glorious Leader
Bush said "major combat operations in Iraq have ended", and so *****
Heishman whines and lies about people instead.

Ray can't handle the fact that liberals, such as himself, have to distort
and redefine in
order to get rid of the opposition.
For Ray Fischer...Too bad it doesn't work
.









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