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"Yang, AthD h.c" |
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21 Aug 2004 07:37:58 PM |
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AWOL Explain How He Dodged the Draft |
"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun in order to
get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to Canada. So I chose to
better myself by learning how to fly airplanes."
GWB, 1990
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -957 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Hanoi Jane Fonda" |
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| Title: Titanic or The Clinton Video? |
21 Aug 2004 07:46:11 PM |
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Titanic or The Clinton Video?
PROBLEM: Two Videos are for sale - Which to Buy?
Titanic or The Clinton Video?
TITANIC VIDEO: $9.99 on Internet
CLINTON VIDEO: $9.99 on Internet
TITANIC VIDEO: Over 3 hours long
CLINTON VIDEO: Over 3 hours long
TITANIC VIDEO: The story of Jack and Rose, their forbidden love, and
subsequent catastrophe.
CLINTON VIDEO: The story of Bill and Monica, their forbidden love, and
subsequent catastrophe.
TITANIC VIDEO: Jack is a starving artist
CLINTON VIDEO: Bill is a ***** artist
TITANIC VIDEO: In one scene, Jack enjoys a good cigar
CLINTON VIDEO: Ditto for Bill
TITANIC VIDEO: During ordeal, Rose's dress gets ruined
CLINTON VIDEO: Ditto for Monica
TITANIC VIDEO: Jack teaches Rose to spit
CLINTON VIDEO: Let's not go there
TITANIC VIDEO: Rose gets to keep her jewelry
CLINTON VIDEO: Monica's forced to return her gifts
TITANIC VIDEO: Rose remembers Jack for the rest of her life
CLINTON VIDEO: Clinton doesn't remember Jack
TITANIC VIDEO: Rose goes down on a vessel full of seamen
CLINTON VIDEO: Monica...ooh, never mind
TITANIC VIDEO: Jack surrenders to an icy death
CLINTON VIDEO: Bill goes home to Hillary ... basically the same thing.
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| User: "Dubya Sucks!" |
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| Title: Re: Titanic or The Clinton Video? |
21 Aug 2004 08:04:54 PM |
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Can't go one minute without blaming Clinton.
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READ MY LIPS-NO MORE BUSH'S!
*******************************************
Bush's 300 Supporters:
http://tinyurl.com/4wotv
Kerry's 50,000 Suporters:
http://tinyurl.com/3lwjd
Same day, same city, Portland, Oregon.
"Hanoi Jane Fonda" <hanoi_jane@N0SPAM.C0M> wrote in message
news:24rfi0p9f6tsj36l4d02fqvmciolnt6b61@4ax.com...
Titanic or The Clinton Video?
PROBLEM: Two Videos are for sale - Which to Buy?
Titanic or The Clinton Video?
TITANIC VIDEO: $9.99 on Internet
CLINTON VIDEO: $9.99 on Internet
TITANIC VIDEO: Over 3 hours long
CLINTON VIDEO: Over 3 hours long
TITANIC VIDEO: The story of Jack and Rose, their forbidden love, and
subsequent catastrophe.
CLINTON VIDEO: The story of Bill and Monica, their forbidden love, and
subsequent catastrophe.
TITANIC VIDEO: Jack is a starving artist
CLINTON VIDEO: Bill is a ***** artist
TITANIC VIDEO: In one scene, Jack enjoys a good cigar
CLINTON VIDEO: Ditto for Bill
TITANIC VIDEO: During ordeal, Rose's dress gets ruined
CLINTON VIDEO: Ditto for Monica
TITANIC VIDEO: Jack teaches Rose to spit
CLINTON VIDEO: Let's not go there
TITANIC VIDEO: Rose gets to keep her jewelry
CLINTON VIDEO: Monica's forced to return her gifts
TITANIC VIDEO: Rose remembers Jack for the rest of her life
CLINTON VIDEO: Clinton doesn't remember Jack
TITANIC VIDEO: Rose goes down on a vessel full of seamen
CLINTON VIDEO: Monica...ooh, never mind
TITANIC VIDEO: Jack surrenders to an icy death
CLINTON VIDEO: Bill goes home to Hillary ... basically the same thing.
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| User: "Psalm 110" |
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22 Aug 2004 06:15:53 PM |
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On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 20:46:11 -0400, Hanoi Jane Fonda
<hanoi_jane@N0SPAM.C0M> wrote:
Fresh Links to Republican FELONY FRAUD SmearBoats villians
HOT NEWS! Exposing more on the Felony Fraud SwiftLiars Organized Crime
connections
LATEST NEWS - August 22, 2004
** http://tinyurl.com/639as veteran working to help re-elect incumbent
president George W. Bush resigned
** http://tinyurl.com/5w7by More Republican Ties Revealed Behind
"Swift Boat Vets For Bush"
** http://tinyurl.com/6wre9 Bush Campaign Drops Swift Boat Ad Figure
-- Cordier's connection to the Bush campaign was made public yesterday
by the Kerry campaign, which found that Cordier had been named on the
Bush Web site earlier this month as a member of the veterans committee
** http://tinyurl.com/4gs53 Cordier was SWFT and GOP operative at same
time. Kenneth Cordier, a retired colonel ... who appeared in an
advertisement to be aired by the anti-Kerry group, SWVT, would on
longer serve in his voluntary position on President George W. Bush's
veterans steering committee.
** http://tinyurl.com/5telj Republican Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas,
chairman of the Senate intelligence committee, said that while the
group had "every right" to express their opinion, "WE OUGHT TO GET OUT
OF THE CHARACTER ASSASSINATION BUSINESS."
NEWS - August 21, 2004
**
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/20/politics/campaign/20swift.html?pagewanted=1
http://tinyurl.com/4r7a8
** http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21239-2004Aug21.html
http://tinyurl.com/4fyem Swift Boat Accounts Incomplete And Flawed
**
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/specials/elections/chi-040821rood,1,1611037.story?coll=chi-news-hed
http://tinyurl.com/6wvtm Anti-Kerry vets not there that day
**
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-040821kerry,1,7582568.story?coll=chi-news-hed
http://tinyurl.com/6v4no Swift boat skipper: Kerry critics wrong --
Tribune editor breaks long silence on Kerry record; fought in disputed
battle
**
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/08/21/MNGE08C6V11.DTL
http://tinyurl.com/45xfx Kerry's Vietnam-era testimony criticized in
new attack ad -- Democrat counters with endorsement by retired general
** http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-camp21.html
http://tinyurl.com/4jjth Dems see link to Swift Boat Vets, Bush-Cheney
----------------------------------
*** George W. Bush - Closely tied to Merrie Spaeth's husband Tex
Lezar, benefitted from Bob Perry money, linked to Karl Rove, to
Stevens Reed Curcio & Potholm, to Regnery publishing, to Harlan Crow
http://tinyurl.com/4uc37GOOGLE.COM Results 220 for "George W. Bush"
Merrie Spaeth Tex Lezar.
http://tinyurl.com/54lqwGOOGLE.COM Results 257 for "George W. Bush"
"Tex Lezar".
http://tinyurl.com/6j2gdGOOGLE.COM Results 613 for "George W. Bush"
"Bob Perry"".
*** Karl Rove - Closely linked to GW Bush, to Merrie Spaeth, to John
O'Neill, to Bob Perry, to Harlan Crow, to organized crime conspiracies
of Philip Morris
http://tinyurl.com/3hpjo
http://tobaccodocuments.org/ai_news/11015.html?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22&?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22#images
http://tinyurl.com/5cmwh
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml%3Fi=19991108&s=dreyfuss
http://tinyurl.com/5gbbd
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=19991108&c=2&s=dreyfuss
http://tinyurl.com/5qcb2
http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/cgi/getdoc?tid=hfd83c00&fmt=tif&ref=results
http://tinyurl.com/6ocdyGOOGLE.COM Results 5,100 for "Karl Rove"
"Swift Boat".
http://tinyurl.com/69vjn
http://tobaccodocuments.org/pm/2041158396.html?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22&?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22#images
http://tinyurl.com/5l2ee
http://tobaccodocuments.org/pm/2041158370.html?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22&?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22#images
*** Merrie Spaeth (Tex Lezar) Linked to GW Bush, Linked to smears of
John McCain using same criminal fraud tactics, to Karl Rove, Bob
Perry, to Ken Starr, linked to organized crime tobacco conspiracies
http://tinyurl.com/64v3cGOOGLE.COM Results 814 for "Merrie Spaeth"
republican.
http://tinyurl.com/63zvuGOOGLE.COM Results 317 for "Merrie Spaeth"
"Tex Lezar".
http://tinyurl.com/43fekGOOGLE.COM Results 10 for "Tex Lezar" tobacco.
*** Roy F. Hoffmann, a retired rear admiral and a leader of the group
http://tinyurl.com/5h6za http://mediamatters.org/items/200406020006
http://tinyurl.com/3rx8z http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060011
*** John E. O'Neill (Charles Colson apprentice) Linked to Nixon,
registered republican and donor, linked to Crow and Perry, to Corsi
and Regnery
http://tinyurl.com/4vrwqGOOGLE.COM Results 482 for "John E. O'Neill"
Colson.
http://tinyurl.com/496xl
http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=John_E._O'Neill
*** Harlan Crow (Swiftliars funder) Linked to Bush, to Perry AEI
board,
http://tinyurl.com/5afl5
http://www.aei.org/about/contentID.20038142214500073/default.asp
http://tinyurl.com/6l7vnGOOGLE.COM Results 113 for "Harlan Crow"
Holdings.
http://tinyurl.com/57oc8GOOGLE.COM Results 217 for "Harlan Crow"
swift.
*** Bob J. Perry (Swiftliars funder) Linked to Bush, Rove, Crow
http://tinyurl.com/3oggt
http://okimc.org/newswire.php?story_id=79&media_type=TEXT
http://tinyurl.com/6kasoGOOGLE.COM Results 1,630 for "Bob Perry"
swift.
*** Stevens Reed Curcio & Potholm, (SwillBoat Ad maker) Linked to
republican party, numerous republican polician campaigns
http://tinyurl.com/5z7ddGOOGLE.COM Results 43 for "Stevens Reed Curcio
& Potholm" swift.
http://tinyurl.com/6g7fc http://srcpmedia.com/corp2.html
http://tinyurl.com/55f4r http://srcpmedia.com/corp2.html
http://tinyurl.com/5uwlw http://srcpmedia.com/house.html
http://tinyurl.com/5nmv7 http://srcpmedia.com/senate.html
http://tinyurl.com/6xnut http://srcpmedia.com/work.html
*** Regnery, a conservative company linked to Richard Mellon Scaife
who manipulates best-seller book list rankings, to Ken Starr, to Corsi
and O'Neill
http://tinyurl.com/5qw2n http://www.phillips.com/eagle.htm
http://tinyurl.com/4zvy2
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Richard%20Scaife
http://tinyurl.com/6vbpf
http://www.prospect.org/print/V11/5/confessore-n.html
http://tinyurl.com/5szod http://www.americanreview.us/back32.htm
http://tinyurl.com/4ycqdGOOGLE.COM Results 146 for "Regnery
Publishing" Richard Mellon Scaife.
*** Jerome R. Corsi Linked to Richard Scaife, to O'Neill, to Regnery
http://tinyurl.com/5a83u http://mediamatters.org/items/200408120001
http://tinyurl.com/5l66z http://mediamatters.org/items/200408110007
http://tinyurl.com/5zyuz http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060010
http://tinyurl.com/4zkmo
http://www.salon.com/src/ads/house/gateway/tv_head_gateway.html?http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/08/06/mccain_on_swift_boat_veterans/index_np.html
http://tinyurl.com/5zyuz http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060010
*** Dr. Louis Letson
http://tinyurl.com/3sf73
http://www.fearofclowns.com/text/kerry_faked_first_purple_heart_debunked/
http://tinyurl.com/5atvt
http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=231
*** William L. Schachte Jr., a retired rear admiral
http://tinyurl.com/3wttr
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04228/361477.stm
http://tinyurl.com/65xuf
http://www.underzealous.com/index.php/2004/08/13/p522
*** Larry Thurlow, who said his boat was 50 to 60 yards from Mr.
Kerry's.
http://tinyurl.com/5m4dc
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13267-2004Aug18.html
http://tinyurl.com/6fyu4
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13267-2004Aug18.html
http://tinyurl.com/5mhcw
http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i6344
The felony fraud organized crime ring is further connected to other
organiced crime fraud operations:
### Richard Mellon Scaife <http://tinyurl.com/5vdpe> is trumpetting it
from his publications. Scaife is historically linked to several of the
felons in the SwiftLiars crime ring. Scaife also funds a broad
coalition of websites and front organizations which are also promoting
this felony conspiracy though their own fraud crime operations:
Scaife thrall organization and Scaife leash-dollars put in it:
*** Heritage Foundation, $20,696,640 (Townhall.com)
http://tinyurl.com/6ng83 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 6,000 for
"Heritage Foundation" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research
$5,201,000
http://tinyurl.com/68tqj GOOGLE.COM Results Results 1,750 for
"American Enterprise Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Spectator Educational Foundation, Inc. $4,144,000
http://tinyurl.com/3n92j GOOGLE.COM Results Results 1,920 for
"American Spectator" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Accuracy in Media, Inc. $3,225,000
http://tinyurl.com/3tg26 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,880 for
"Accuracy in Media" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Citizens for a Sound Economy Foundation $2,335,000
http://tinyurl.com/53kxs GOOGLE.COM Results Results about 2,590 for
"Citizens for a Sound Economy" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Cato Institute $1,872,500
http://tinyurl.com/6jrt7 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 1,920 for "Cato
Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** National Center for Policy Analysis $1,760,000
http://tinyurl.com/4yyhy GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,550 for
"National Center for Policy Analysis" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Independent Women's Forum $1,600,000
http://tinyurl.com/4j9ae GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,670 for
"Independent Women's Forum" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Competitive Enterprise Institute $1,525,000
http://tinyurl.com/585fn GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,550 for
"Competitive Enterprise Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Legislative Exchange Council $1,495,000
http://tinyurl.com/5kuo9 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,480 for
"American Legislative Exchange Council" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Defenders of Property Rights $965,000
http://tinyurl.com/4l3gc GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,440 for
"Defenders of Property Rights" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Media Research Center, Inc. $952,000
http://tinyurl.com/46hys GOOGLE.COM Results Results 5,240 for "Media
Research Center" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Institute for Humane Studies $950,000
http://tinyurl.com/3w7b3 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,450 for
"Institute for Humane Studies" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** National Center for Public Policy Research, Inc. $825,000
http://tinyurl.com/59wll Google.com 2,610 for "National Center for
Public Policy Research" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Media Institute $645,000
http://tinyurl.com/6s7b4 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 1,200 for "Media
Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Acton Institute For The Study of Religion and Liberty $565,000
http://tinyurl.com/6h98g GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,470 for "Acton
Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
### Sun Myung Moon is another felony fraud conspirator using his
organized crime operation to advance his candidate who has a bilnd eye
to Moon's crimes. The WASHINGTON TIMES and UPI wireservice is Moonie
front operations. <
http://tinyurl.com/6nlt9>
***
http://tinyurl.com/55jrwGOOGLE.COM Results 42,600 for "Washington
Times" Swift boat OR Boats.
SUN MYUNG MOON uses "CHURCH PROPERTY", helps create 42,600 webpages
circulating LIES.
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| User: "Hanoi Jane Fonda" |
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| Title: GOP: WE CAN'T AFFORD KERRY |
22 Aug 2004 08:48:00 PM |
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GOP: WE CAN'T AFFORD KERRY
By DEBORAH ORIN
NY POST
March 23, 2004 -- WASHINGTON - Republicans yesterday created an
Internet "spendometer" for Democrat John Kerry and claimed he'll cost
taxpayers an extra $1 trillion - and counting - over the next 10
years.
That tally - dubbed "The John Kerry Tax Gap" - is up from the $900
billion figure used in a recent attack ad from President Bush's
campaign and aides say it will grow as dozens more Kerry campaign
promises are priced.
"He promises to spend a lot of money and hasn't said where he's going
to get it," said a senior Bush strategist.
One of Bush's prime goals appears to be trying to keep Kerry
off-balance. Asked when Team Bush will strike next, the senior
strategist replied: "Soon."
Team Bush's focus on economic issues comes as polls show Kerry has the
edge there with voters while Bush is strongly favored on issues of
national defense. Kerry strategist Tad Devine said the Republican
figures are "misleading" and Team Bush is "just grabbing things out of
the air."
But Republicans put out an inch-thick stack of supporting documents
relying heavily on news reports. The move puts more pressure on Kerry
to come up with a budget to pay for his promises in order to counter
the GOP charges.
The Republican National Committee Web site now sports a banner that
says "See how much John Kerry will cost you" - a click on that spot
produces the "spendometer" to the ka-ching, ka-ching sound of a cash
register.
The Web site shows the GOP version of what Kerry's promises cost -
$1.7 trillion - minus the $658 billion he's proposed in tax hikes on
"the rich," leaving a "gap" of $1 trillion that Republicans say means
more taxes on everyone.
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22 Aug 2004 09:26:38 PM |
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 21:48:00 -0400, Hanoi Jane Fonda
<hanoi_jane@N0SPAM.C0M> wrote:
"He promises to spend a lot of money and hasn't said where he's going
to get it," said a senior Bush strategist.
<Boggle>
EXCUSE ME?
EXFUCKINGSCUSE ME?
Bush has already fucking spent a *hell* of a lot of money on an
unnecessary war without ever saying where he's going to get it paid
back from. He's mortgaged our fucking future, and run up the biggest
deficits in history, with no resolution in sight, except that our
children and grandchildren are going to be paying it off for the
foreseeable future, just when the Social Security system is going to
reaching the economic breaking point demographically.
Your hypocrisy is as breathtaking as your utter stupidity.
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| User: "Psalm110" |
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| Title: Re: GOP: WE CAN'T AFFORD KERRY |
23 Aug 2004 07:17:21 PM |
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 21:48:00 -0400, blithering idiot Hanoi Jane Fonda
<hanoi_jane@N0SPAM.C0M> farted his opinion:
Fresh Links to Republican FELONY FRAUD SmearBoats villians
HOT NEWS! Exposing more on the Felony Fraud SwiftLiars Organized Crime
connections
LATEST NEWS - August 23, 2004
** http://tinyurl.com/3kt5v Silver Star incident: Langhofer, on other
boat, saw firing from both banks of a river.
** http://tinyurl.com/5bf5k Vets, others call for resignation of
prosecutor in SwiftLies ad
** http://tinyurl.com/63wmp Republican prosecutor Alfred French's lies
on affidavit about events he did not witness.
** http://tinyurl.com/65qsn Republican prosecuter's Anti-Kerry hearsay
is worthless.
August 22 or earlier:
** http://tinyurl.com/4e3y2 BusinessWeek: Flinging the Foul Mud of
Vietnam. John Kerry returned a hero. The smears his political enemies
are now flinging mark them -- not him -- as beneath contempt
** http://tinyurl.com/4yeu7 Kerry also picked up support from Wayne D.
Langhofer, who told The Washington Post he was manning a machine gun
in a boat behind Kerry's and saw firing from both banks of a river as
Kerry dived in to rescue Special Forces soldier James Rassmann, the
basis for Kerry's Bronze Star.
** http://tinyurl.com/6arcy Bush campaign admits "Cordier was a
supporter of the President during the 2000 election and served as a
member of the President's veterans' steering committee during this
election."
** http://tinyurl.com/44t3g Registered Republican SwillBoat Ad Shill
was not there.
** http://tinyurl.com/3rtwt SwillBoat prosecutors presents heresay as
if he was eyewitness.
** http://tinyurl.com/6ubnz SwillBoater claims he has no evidence
** http://tinyurl.com/639as SwiftLie vet working to help re-elect
incumbent president George W. Bush resigned
** http://tinyurl.com/5w7by More Republican Ties Revealed Behind
"Swift Boat Vets For Bush"
** http://tinyurl.com/6wre9 Bush Campaign Drops Swift Boat Ad Figure
-- Cordier's connection to the Bush campaign was made public yesterday
by the Kerry campaign, which found that Cordier had been named on the
Bush Web site earlier this month as a member of the veterans committee
** http://tinyurl.com/4gs53 Cordier was SWFT and GOP operative at same
time. Kenneth Cordier, a retired colonel ... who appeared in an
advertisement to be aired by the anti-Kerry group, SWVT, would on
longer serve in his voluntary position on President George W. Bush's
veterans steering committee.
** http://tinyurl.com/5telj Republican Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas,
chairman of the Senate intelligence committee, said that while the
group had "every right" to express their opinion, "WE OUGHT TO GET OUT
OF THE CHARACTER ASSASSINATION BUSINESS."
NEWS - August 21, 2004
**
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/20/politics/campaign/20swift.html?pagewanted=1
http://tinyurl.com/4r7a8
** http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21239-2004Aug21.html
http://tinyurl.com/4fyem Swift Boat Accounts Incomplete And Flawed
**
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/specials/elections/chi-040821rood,1,1611037.story?coll=chi-news-hed
http://tinyurl.com/6wvtm Anti-Kerry vets not there that day
**
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-040821kerry,1,7582568.story?coll=chi-news-hed
http://tinyurl.com/6v4no Swift boat skipper: Kerry critics wrong --
Tribune editor breaks long silence on Kerry record; fought in disputed
battle
**
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/08/21/MNGE08C6V11.DTL
http://tinyurl.com/45xfx Kerry's Vietnam-era testimony criticized in
new attack ad -- Democrat counters with endorsement by retired general
** http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-camp21.html
http://tinyurl.com/4jjth Dems see link to Swift Boat Vets, Bush-Cheney
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*** George W. Bush - Closely tied to Merrie Spaeth's husband Tex
Lezar, benefitted from Bob Perry money, linked to Karl Rove, to
Stevens Reed Curcio & Potholm, to Regnery publishing, to Harlan Crow
http://tinyurl.com/4uc37 GOOGLE.COM Results 220 for "George W. Bush"
Merrie Spaeth Tex Lezar.
http://tinyurl.com/54lqw GOOGLE.COM Results 257 for "George W. Bush"
"Tex Lezar".
http://tinyurl.com/6j2gd GOOGLE.COM Results 613 for "George W. Bush"
"Bob Perry"".
*** Karl Rove - Closely linked to GW Bush, to Merrie Spaeth, to John
O'Neill, to Bob Perry, to Harlan Crow, to organized crime conspiracies
of Philip Morris
http://tinyurl.com/3hpjo
http://tobaccodocuments.org/ai_news/11015.html?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22&?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22#images
http://tinyurl.com/5cmwh
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml%3Fi=19991108&s=dreyfuss
http://tinyurl.com/5gbbd
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=19991108&c=2&s=dreyfuss
http://tinyurl.com/5qcb2
http://legacy.library.ucsf.edu/cgi/getdoc?tid=hfd83c00&fmt=tif&ref=results
http://tinyurl.com/6ocdy GOOGLE.COM Results 5,100 for "Karl Rove"
"Swift Boat".
http://tinyurl.com/69vjn
http://tobaccodocuments.org/pm/2041158396.html?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22&?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22#images
http://tinyurl.com/5l2ee
http://tobaccodocuments.org/pm/2041158370.html?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22&?pattern=%22Karl%20Rove%22#images
*** Merrie Spaeth (Tex Lezar) Linked to GW Bush, Linked to smears of
John McCain using same criminal fraud tactics, to Karl Rove, Bob
Perry, to Ken Starr, linked to organized crime tobacco conspiracies
http://tinyurl.com/64v3c GOOGLE.COM Results 814 for "Merrie Spaeth"
republican.
http://tinyurl.com/63zvu GOOGLE.COM Results 317 for "Merrie Spaeth"
"Tex Lezar".
http://tinyurl.com/43fek GOOGLE.COM Results 10 for "Tex Lezar"
tobacco.
*** Roy F. Hoffmann, a retired rear admiral and a leader of the group
http://tinyurl.com/5h6za http://mediamatters.org/items/200406020006
http://tinyurl.com/3rx8z http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060011
*** John E. O'Neill (Charles Colson apprentice) Linked to Nixon,
registered republican and donor, linked to Crow and Perry, to Corsi
and Regnery
http://tinyurl.com/4vrwq GOOGLE.COM Results 482 for "John E. O'Neill"
Colson.
http://tinyurl.com/496xl
http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=John_E._O'Neill
*** Harlan Crow (Swiftliars funder) Linked to Bush, to Perry AEI
board,
http://tinyurl.com/5afl5
http://www.aei.org/about/contentID.20038142214500073/default.asp
http://tinyurl.com/6l7vn GOOGLE.COM Results 113 for "Harlan Crow"
Holdings.
http://tinyurl.com/57oc8 GOOGLE.COM Results 217 for "Harlan Crow"
swift.
*** Bob J. Perry (Swiftliars funder) Linked to Bush, Rove, Crow
http://tinyurl.com/3oggt
http://okimc.org/newswire.php?story_id=79&media_type=TEXT
http://tinyurl.com/6kaso GOOGLE.COM Results 1,630 for "Bob Perry"
swift.
*** Stevens Reed Curcio & Potholm, (SwillBoat Ad maker) Linked to
republican party, numerous republican polician campaigns
http://tinyurl.com/5z7dd GOOGLE.COM Results 43 for "Stevens Reed
Curcio & Potholm" swift.
http://tinyurl.com/6g7fc http://srcpmedia.com/corp2.html
http://tinyurl.com/55f4r http://srcpmedia.com/corp2.html
http://tinyurl.com/5uwlw http://srcpmedia.com/house.html
http://tinyurl.com/5nmv7 http://srcpmedia.com/senate.html
http://tinyurl.com/6xnut http://srcpmedia.com/work.html
*** Regnery, a conservative company linked to Richard Mellon Scaife
who manipulates best-seller book list rankings, to Ken Starr, to Corsi
and O'Neill
http://tinyurl.com/5qw2n http://www.phillips.com/eagle.htm
http://tinyurl.com/4zvy2
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Richard%20Scaife
http://tinyurl.com/6vbpf
http://www.prospect.org/print/V11/5/confessore-n.html
http://tinyurl.com/5szod http://www.americanreview.us/back32.htm
http://tinyurl.com/4ycqd GOOGLE.COM Results 146 for "Regnery
Publishing" Richard Mellon Scaife.
*** Jerome R. Corsi Linked to Richard Scaife, to O'Neill, to Regnery
http://tinyurl.com/5a83u http://mediamatters.org/items/200408120001
http://tinyurl.com/5l66z http://mediamatters.org/items/200408110007
http://tinyurl.com/5zyuz http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060010
http://tinyurl.com/4zkmo
http://www.salon.com/src/ads/house/gateway/tv_head_gateway.html?http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/08/06/mccain_on_swift_boat_veterans/index_np.html
http://tinyurl.com/5zyuz http://mediamatters.org/items/200408060010
*** Dr. Louis Letson
http://tinyurl.com/3sf73
http://www.fearofclowns.com/text/kerry_faked_first_purple_heart_debunked/
http://tinyurl.com/5atvt
http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=231
*** William L. Schachte Jr., a retired rear admiral
http://tinyurl.com/3wttr
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04228/361477.stm
http://tinyurl.com/65xuf
http://www.underzealous.com/index.php/2004/08/13/p522
*** Larry Thurlow, who said his boat was 50 to 60 yards from Mr.
Kerry's.
http://tinyurl.com/5m4dc
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13267-2004Aug18.html
http://tinyurl.com/6fyu4
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A13267-2004Aug18.html
http://tinyurl.com/5mhcw
http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i6344
The felony fraud organized crime ring is further connected to other
organiced crime fraud operations:
### Richard Mellon Scaife <http://tinyurl.com/5vdpe> is trumpetting it
from his publications. Scaife is historically linked to several of the
felons in the SwiftLiars crime ring. Scaife also funds a broad
coalition of websites and front organizations which are also promoting
this felony conspiracy though their own fraud crime operations:
Scaife thrall organization and Scaife leash-dollars put in it:
*** Heritage Foundation, $20,696,640 (Townhall.com)
http://tinyurl.com/6ng83 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 6,000 for
"Heritage Foundation" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research
$5,201,000
http://tinyurl.com/68tqj GOOGLE.COM Results Results 1,750 for
"American Enterprise Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Spectator Educational Foundation, Inc. $4,144,000
http://tinyurl.com/3n92j GOOGLE.COM Results Results 1,920 for
"American Spectator" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Accuracy in Media, Inc. $3,225,000
http://tinyurl.com/3tg26 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,880 for
"Accuracy in Media" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Citizens for a Sound Economy Foundation $2,335,000
http://tinyurl.com/53kxs GOOGLE.COM Results Results about 2,590 for
"Citizens for a Sound Economy" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Cato Institute $1,872,500
http://tinyurl.com/6jrt7 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 1,920 for "Cato
Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** National Center for Policy Analysis $1,760,000
http://tinyurl.com/4yyhy GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,550 for
"National Center for Policy Analysis" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Independent Women's Forum $1,600,000
http://tinyurl.com/4j9ae GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,670 for
"Independent Women's Forum" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Competitive Enterprise Institute $1,525,000
http://tinyurl.com/585fn GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,550 for
"Competitive Enterprise Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** American Legislative Exchange Council $1,495,000
http://tinyurl.com/5kuo9 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,480 for
"American Legislative Exchange Council" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Defenders of Property Rights $965,000
http://tinyurl.com/4l3gc GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,440 for
"Defenders of Property Rights" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Media Research Center, Inc. $952,000
http://tinyurl.com/46hys GOOGLE.COM Results Results 5,240 for "Media
Research Center" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Institute for Humane Studies $950,000
http://tinyurl.com/3w7b3 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,450 for
"Institute for Humane Studies" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** National Center for Public Policy Research, Inc. $825,000
http://tinyurl.com/59wll Google.com 2,610 for "National Center for
Public Policy Research" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Media Institute $645,000
http://tinyurl.com/6s7b4 GOOGLE.COM Results Results 1,200 for "Media
Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
*** Acton Institute For The Study of Religion and Liberty $565,000
http://tinyurl.com/6h98g GOOGLE.COM Results Results 2,470 for "Acton
Institute" Swift boat OR Boats.
### Sun Myung Moon is another felony fraud conspirator using his
organized crime operation to advance his candidate who has a bilnd eye
to Moon's crimes. The WASHINGTON TIMES and UPI wireservice is Moonie
front operations. <
http://tinyurl.com/6nlt9>
***
http://tinyurl.com/55jrwGOOGLE.COM Results 42,600 for "Washington
Times" Swift boat OR Boats.
SUN MYUNG MOON uses "CHURCH PROPERTY", helps create 42,600 webpages
circulating LIES.
}GOP: WE CAN'T AFFORD KERRY
}
}By DEBORAH ORIN
}NY POST
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}March 23, 2004 -- WASHINGTON - Republicans yesterday created an
}Internet "spendometer" for Democrat John Kerry and claimed he'll cost
}taxpayers an extra $1 trillion - and counting - over the next 10
}years.
}
}That tally - dubbed "The John Kerry Tax Gap" - is up from the $900
}billion figure used in a recent attack ad from President Bush's
}campaign and aides say it will grow as dozens more Kerry campaign
}promises are priced.
}
}"He promises to spend a lot of money and hasn't said where he's going
}to get it," said a senior Bush strategist.
}
}One of Bush's prime goals appears to be trying to keep Kerry
}off-balance. Asked when Team Bush will strike next, the senior
}strategist replied: "Soon."
}
}Team Bush's focus on economic issues comes as polls show Kerry has
the
}edge there with voters while Bush is strongly favored on issues of
}national defense. Kerry strategist Tad Devine said the Republican
}figures are "misleading" and Team Bush is "just grabbing things out
of
}the air."
}
}But Republicans put out an inch-thick stack of supporting documents
}relying heavily on news reports. The move puts more pressure on Kerry
}to come up with a budget to pay for his promises in order to counter
}the GOP charges.
}
}The Republican National Committee Web site now sports a banner that
}says "See how much John Kerry will cost you" - a click on that spot
}produces the "spendometer" to the ka-ching, ka-ching sound of a cash
}register.
}
}The Web site shows the GOP version of what Kerry's promises cost -
}$1.7 trillion - minus the $658 billion he's proposed in tax hikes on
}"the rich," leaving a "gap" of $1 trillion that Republicans say means
}more taxes on everyone.
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23 Aug 2004 08:02:22 PM |
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John Kerry Aid Sandy Berger Steals National Security Documents! Sells
Them To Terrorists!
WASHINGTON -- Former Clinton national security adviser Sandy Berger,
the subject of a criminal investigation over the disappearance of
terrorism documents, got kicked out of Washington DC on his *****
Tuesday as an adviser to Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry.
John Kerry figures that by selling these national security documents
to terrorists that at least the terrorists will vote for him in
November along with a handful of really stupid liberals.
Mr. Berger is just another liberal idiot holdover from the sex and
drugs crazed Clinton administration. Both Sandy Berger and John Kerry
hate America equally, so they figure that they can help out terrorists
in their plots against the United States. Mr. Berger got caught with
the documents stuffed down the front of his pants. This is something
he obviously picked up from Bill Clinton, as Bill was always reaching
down into his pants in order to show Monica Lewinsky something.
Lanny Breuer, Berger's attorney, says that Sandy Berger will plead
that he is just a stupid liberal that does not know any better than to
do something so stupid.
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Liberals Hate America!
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25 Aug 2004 01:45:02 AM |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:02:22 -0400, Hanoi Jane Fonda
<hanoi_jane@N0SPAM.C0M> twrote
idiot holdover from the sex and
drugs crazed
Bush Pal SUN MYUNG MOON's Nuke-Tech to ATHEIST North Korea.
The issue is NOT purple hearts in Viet Nam, but Black Hearts in
Washington D.C.
George Bush buddy Sun Myung Moon gave nuclear weapons submarine
sea-launch technology to North Korea in 1994. That technology now
permits North Korea sea-platform launched missiles to hit continental
USA. Bush and Moon are collaborating on "SwiftVet" smear dirty tricks,
using Moon's Washington Times and UPI news operations to peddle felony
frauds.
SUN MYUNG MOON gave North Korea NUKE DELIVERY SYSTEMS.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Nukes.html
Sun Myung Moon's Japanese Toen Trading company delivered 12 Russian
Golf missile submarines with launch tubes intact. The North Korean
communists studied this technology and adapted their missiles to be
sea launched from surface and submarine platforms. North Korea now has
nuclear weapon strike capability which can reach the continental
United States from sea-based mobile launch facilities at distances of
2,500 miles. This website has clickable links to Sun Myung Moon
subversion sources, documentation, proof.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Nukes.html
LINKS -- NK sea-missile capability: http://www.navyseals.com
http://www.janes.com http://www.reuters.co.uk http://news.bbc.co.uk
http://www.washingtontimes.com http://www.newscientist.com
http://www.townhall.com http://www.freerepublic.com
http://www.libertyforum.org http://www.theage.com.au
http://www.iht.com http://www.latimes.com
LINKS -- North Korean-born Sun Myung Moon's Toen Trading Submarine
Subversion: http://www.freerepublic.com http://www.usasurvival.org
http://www.gorenfeld.net http://www.davidicke.net
http://blog.mmadsen.org http://www.kenlayne.com
http://www.pandagon.net http://jameswagner.com
http://functionalambivalent.typepad.com http://www.la-mancha.net
http://windsofchange.net http://thoughtcrimes.org http://www.vuw.ac.nz
Sun Myung Moon owns the Washington Times newspaper, and he owns the
UPI (United Press International) wireservice. He controls the main
Washington DC conservative propaganda mill. The Washington Times has
been subsidized by over a billion dollars of moonie slave labor. Every
time that a republican politician quotes the Washington Times, or
writes an article or op-ed in it, Sun Myung Moon is made larger in his
brainwashed follower's eyes. Conservatives are so desperate for
propaganda for their agenda that they willingly aid and abet Sun Myung
Moon's organized crime activities in exchange for the help his
organized crime front operations deliver to them.
Sun Myung Moon has paid ex-presidents, such as George Herbert Walker
Bush up to $10,000,000 for photo-op and endorsements, because his
virtually captive followers have very restricted access to news. They
are told that everybody Moon shakes hands with has accepted Moon as
their lord and savior. This global slave labor force replenishes a $10
million expense for faked stage setting photo-op in a couple of days.
LINKS about Moonies, Bush, Washinton Times connections:
The Moonies: Everything you wanted to know about Sun Myung Moon and
the Unification Church
Moonie and Related Links
* The Right Wing Media Conspiracy - How the Moonies and right wing
groups control the media
* Moonies and the Washington Times - The mouthpiece of Sun Myung
Moon
* Is George Bush a Moonie? - Bush takes $100,000 to endorse the
Moonies
* Inside Look at the Moonies - Great article I snagged
* Moonie Front Organizations - 1000 organization that are Moonie
fronts
* Consortium News - Very good articles about Moonies and other
right wingers
* Bush and Moon - US CIA and Korean CIA?? GHW Bush Praises Sun
Myung Moon as 'Man of Vision'
* Sun Myung Moon - "the Savior, Messiah and King of Kings of all
of humanity"
* The Bush-Kim-Moon Triangle of Money - the political largesse of
Sun Myung Moon.
Sun Myung Moon crowned as Second Coming in DC
The news of a very strange event that occurred at the end of March,
but was quietly swept under the carpet by the mainstream media, is
just now beginning to leak out. Expect to hear more about it in the
coming days. Here's a preview on what surely must be one of the most
bizarre happenings in the long history of Congressional oddities...
It occurred on March 23, 2004 when Reverend Sun Myung Moon, cultist
leader of the Unification Church (currently known as The Family
Federation for World Peace and Unification), was crowned "King of
Peace" in a coronation ceremony. In his coronation speech, Moon told
the audience that it was now time to officially recognize him as the
returned Messiah.
LINKS:
Moon Crowned in the Capital, [Unification Church] Sun Myung Moon
Crowned 'King Of America' At U.S. Senate Building, Hail to the Moon
king, Moon Over Washington, Sun Myung Moon Crowned Messiah By
Congressmen, Sun Myung Moon crowned as Messiah by U.S. Senate! Moonie
leader 'crowned' in Senate, Sun Myung Moon Crowned Messiah! U.S.
Lawmakers Crown rev. Sun Myung Moon Messiah! Here's a guy the
Republicans don't want us to know about. (Actually, it was a democrat
conservative, to the great relief of republican conservatives, who
placed the crown on Moon, in this hoax ceremony. In Moon's world he
replaces all governments with his Taliban, so Republicans and
Democrats all will be liquidated.
The quaint mass marriage ceremonies of the Moonies has another
significance: these represent thousands upon thousand upon thousands
of members of an organized crime empire, as dedicated as body-bomb
suicide muslims, to the eccentric whims of this visibly insane man.
Moonies surreptitiously swell rallies for rightwing causes, clog the
internet forums with their unshakable propaganda-mongering which
cannot be reasoned with, vote as a block and move across state lines
to do it. They even move across international boundaries to meddle in
politics.
Moonies also collaborate with other organized crime rings for mutal
profit.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Koctopus_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Killer_David_Koch.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/CSE_Organized_Crime.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_CFACT.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Seitz_Tobacco_Crimes.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Nightline.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-1993-1994.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Seitz.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Stohrer-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Hazeltine-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Heidelberg-Appeal.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Sallie_Baliunas.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Walter_Williams_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Richard_S_Lindzen.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/ADTI_Frauds_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/AdTI_Villians.htm
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Pelosi.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Becky_Norton_Dunlop_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Confronting_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Chrispeels.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Idsos.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Fred_Michel.html
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25 Aug 2004 02:14:48 AM |
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Even liberal leftist Chris Hitchens calls Michael Moore a PATHOLOGICAL
liar
http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723
Unfairenheit 9/11
The lies of Michael Moore.
By Christopher Hitchens
Posted Monday, June 21, 2004, at 12:26 PM PT
Moore: Trying to have it three ways
One of the many problems with the American left, and indeed of the
American left, has been its image and self-image as something rather
too solemn, mirthless, herbivorous, dull, monochrome, righteous, and
boring. How many times, in my old days at The Nation magazine, did I
hear wistful and semienvious ruminations? Where was the radical Firing
Line show? Who will be our Rush Limbaugh? I used privately to hope
that the emphasis, if the comrades ever got around to it, would be on
the first of those and not the second. But the meetings themselves
were so mind-numbing and lugubrious that I thought the danger of
success on either front was infinitely slight.
Nonetheless, it seems that an answer to this long-felt need is finally
beginning to emerge. I exempt Al Franken's unintentionally funny Air
America network, to which I gave a couple of interviews in its early
days. There, one could hear the reassuring noise of collapsing scenery
and tripped-over wires and be reminded once again that correct
politics and smooth media presentation are not even distant cousins.
With Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11, however, an entirely new note
has been struck. Here we glimpse a possible fusion between the turgid
routines of MoveOn.org and the filmic standards, if not exactly the
filmic skills, of Sergei Eisenstein or Leni Riefenstahl.
To describe this film as dishonest and demagogic would almost be to
promote those terms to the level of respectability. To describe this
film as a piece of crap would be to run the risk of a discourse that
would never again rise above the excremental. To describe it as an
exercise in facile crowd-pleasing would be too obvious. Fahrenheit
9/11 is a sinister exercise in moral frivolity, crudely disguised as
an exercise in seriousness. It is also a spectacle of abject political
cowardice masking itself as a demonstration of "dissenting" bravery.
In late 2002, almost a year after the al-Qaida assault on American
society, I had an onstage debate with Michael Moore at the Telluride
Film Festival. In the course of this exchange, he stated his view that
Osama Bin Laden should be considered innocent until proven guilty.
This was, he said, the American way. The intervention in Afghanistan,
he maintained, had been at least to that extent unjustified.
Something-I cannot guess what, since we knew as much then as we do
now-has since apparently persuaded Moore that Osama Bin Laden is as
guilty as hell. Indeed, Osama is suddenly so guilty and so
all-powerful that any other discussion of any other topic is a
dangerous "distraction" from the fight against him. I believe that I
understand the convenience of this late conversion.
Recruiters in Michigan
Fahrenheit 9/11 makes the following points about Bin Laden and about
Afghanistan, and makes them in this order:
1) The Bin Laden family (if not exactly Osama himself) had a close if
convoluted business relationship with the Bush family, through the
Carlyle Group.
2) Saudi capital in general is a very large element of foreign
investment in the United States.
3) The Unocal company in Texas had been willing to discuss a gas
pipeline across Afghanistan with the Taliban, as had other vested
interests.
4) The Bush administration sent far too few ground troops to
Afghanistan and thus allowed far too many Taliban and al-Qaida members
to escape.
5) The Afghan government, in supporting the coalition in Iraq, was
purely risible in that its non-army was purely American.
6) The American lives lost in Afghanistan have been wasted. (This I
divine from the fact that this supposedly "antiwar" film is dedicated
ruefully to all those killed there, as well as in Iraq.)
It must be evident to anyone, despite the rapid-fire way in which
Moore's direction eases the audience hastily past the contradictions,
that these discrepant scatter shots do not cohere at any point. Either
the Saudis run U.S. policy (through family ties or overwhelming
economic interest), or they do not. As allies and patrons of the
Taliban regime, they either opposed Bush's removal of it, or they did
not. (They opposed the removal, all right: They wouldn't even let Tony
Blair land his own plane on their soil at the time of the operation.)
Either we sent too many troops, or were wrong to send any at all-the
latter was Moore's view as late as 2002-or we sent too few. If we were
going to make sure no Taliban or al-Qaida forces survived or escaped,
we would have had to be more ruthless than I suspect that Mr. Moore is
really recommending. And these are simply observations on what is "in"
the film. If we turn to the facts that are deliberately left out, we
discover that there is an emerging Afghan army, that the country is
now a joint NATO responsibility and thus under the protection of the
broadest military alliance in history, that it has a new constitution
and is preparing against hellish odds to hold a general election, and
that at least a million and a half of its former refugees have opted
to return. I don't think a pipeline is being constructed yet, not that
Afghanistan couldn't do with a pipeline. But a highway from Kabul to
Kandahar-an insurance against warlordism and a condition of
nation-building-is nearing completion with infinite labor and risk. We
also discover that the parties of the Afghan secular left-like the
parties of the Iraqi secular left-are strongly in favor of the regime
change. But this is not the sort of irony in which Moore chooses to
deal.
He prefers leaden sarcasm to irony and, indeed, may not appreciate the
distinction. In a long and paranoid (and tedious) section at the
opening of the film, he makes heavy innuendoes about the flights that
took members of the Bin Laden family out of the country after Sept.
11. I banged on about this myself at the time and wrote a Nation
column drawing attention to the groveling Larry King interview with
the insufferable Prince Bandar, which Moore excerpts. However, recent
developments have not been kind to our Mike. In the interval between
Moore's triumph at Cannes and the release of the film in the United
States, the 9/11 commission has found nothing to complain of in the
timing or arrangement of the flights. And Richard Clarke, Bush's
former chief of counterterrorism, has come forward to say that he, and
he alone, took the responsibility for authorizing those Saudi
departures. This might not matter so much to the ethos of Fahrenheit
9/11, except that-as you might expect-Clarke is presented throughout
as the brow-furrowed ethical hero of the entire post-9/11 moment. And
it does not seem very likely that, in his open admission about the Bin
Laden family evacuation, Clarke is taking a fall, or a spear in the
chest, for the Bush administration. So, that's another bust for this
windy and bloated cinematic "key to all mythologies."
A film that bases itself on a big lie and a big misrepresentation can
only sustain itself by a dizzying succession of smaller falsehoods,
beefed up by wilder and (if possible) yet more-contradictory claims.
President Bush is accused of taking too many lazy vacations. (What is
that about, by the way? Isn't he supposed to be an unceasing planner
for future aggressive wars?) But the shot of him "relaxing at Camp
David" shows him side by side with Tony Blair. I say "shows," even
though this photograph is on-screen so briefly that if you sneeze or
blink, you won't recognize the other figure. A meeting with the prime
minister of the United Kingdom, or at least with this prime minister,
is not a goof-off.
The president is also captured in a well-worn TV news clip, on a golf
course, making a boilerplate response to a question on terrorism and
then asking the reporters to watch his drive. Well, that's what you
get if you catch the president on a golf course. If Eisenhower had
done this, as he often did, it would have been presented as calm
statesmanship. If Clinton had done it, as he often did, it would have
shown his charm. More interesting is the moment where Bush is shown
frozen on his chair at the infant school in Florida, looking stunned
and useless for seven whole minutes after the news of the second plane
on 9/11. Many are those who say that he should have leaped from his
stool, adopted a Russell Crowe stance, and gone to work. I could even
wish that myself. But if he had done any such thing then (as he did
with his "Let's roll" and "dead or alive" remarks a month later), half
the Michael Moore community would now be calling him a man who went to
war on a hectic, crazed impulse. The other half would be saying what
they already say-that he knew the attack was coming, was using it to
cement himself in power, and couldn't wait to get on with his coup.
This is the line taken by Gore Vidal and by a scandalous recent book
that also revives the charge of FDR's collusion over Pearl Harbor. At
least Moore's film should put the shameful purveyors of that last
theory back in their paranoid box.
But it won't because it encourages their half-baked fantasies in so
many other ways. We are introduced to Iraq, "a sovereign nation." (In
fact, Iraq's "sovereignty" was heavily qualified by international
sanctions, however questionable, which reflected its noncompliance
with important U.N. resolutions.) In this peaceable kingdom, according
to Moore's flabbergasting choice of film shots, children are flying
little kites, shoppers are smiling in the sunshine, and the gentle
rhythms of life are undisturbed. Then-wham! From the night sky come
the terror weapons of American imperialism. Watching the clips Moore
uses, and recalling them well, I can recognize various Saddam palaces
and military and police centers getting the treatment. But these sites
are not identified as such. In fact, I don't think Al Jazeera would,
on a bad day, have transmitted anything so utterly propagandistic. You
would also be led to think that the term "civilian casualty" had not
even been in the Iraqi vocabulary until March 2003. I remember asking
Moore at Telluride if he was or was not a pacifist. He would not give
a straight answer then, and he doesn't now, either. I'll just say that
the "insurgent" side is presented in this film as justifiably
outraged, whereas the 30-year record of Baathist war crimes and
repression and aggression is not mentioned once. (Actually, that's not
quite right. It is briefly mentioned but only, and smarmily, because
of the bad period when Washington preferred Saddam to the likewise
unmentioned Ayatollah Khomeini.)
That this-his pro-American moment-was the worst Moore could possibly
say of Saddam's depravity is further suggested by some astonishing
falsifications. Moore asserts that Iraq under Saddam had never
attacked or killed or even threatened (his words) any American. I
never quite know whether Moore is as ignorant as he looks, or even if
that would be humanly possible. Baghdad was for years the official,
undisguised home address of Abu Nidal, then the most-wanted gangster
in the world, who had been sentenced to death even by the PLO and had
blown up airports in Vienna* and Rome. Baghdad was the safe house for
the man whose "operation" murdered Leon Klinghoffer. Saddam boasted
publicly of his financial sponsorship of suicide bombers in Israel.
(Quite a few Americans of all denominations walk the streets of
Jerusalem.) In 1991, a large number of Western hostages were taken by
the hideous Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and held in terrible conditions
for a long time. After that same invasion was repelled-Saddam having
killed quite a few Americans and Egyptians and Syrians and Brits in
the meantime and having threatened to kill many more-the Iraqi secret
police were caught trying to murder former President Bush during his
visit to Kuwait. Never mind whether his son should take that
personally. (Though why should he not?) Should you and I not resent
any foreign dictatorship that attempts to kill one of our retired
chief executives? (President Clinton certainly took it that way: He
ordered the destruction by cruise missiles of the Baathist "security"
headquarters.) Iraqi forces fired, every day, for 10 years, on the
aircraft that patrolled the no-fly zones and staved off further
genocide in the north and south of the country. In 1993, a certain Mr.
Yasin helped mix the chemicals for the bomb at the World Trade Center
and then skipped to Iraq, where he remained a guest of the state until
the overthrow of Saddam. In 2001, Saddam's regime was the only one in
the region that openly celebrated the attacks on New York and
Washington and described them as just the beginning of a larger
revenge. Its official media regularly spewed out a stream of
anti-Semitic incitement. I think one might describe that as
"threatening," even if one was narrow enough to think that
anti-Semitism only menaces Jews. And it was after, and not before, the
9/11 attacks that Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi moved from Afghanistan to
Baghdad and began to plan his now very open and lethal design for a
holy and ethnic civil war. On Dec. 1, 2003, the New York Times
reported-and the David Kay report had established-that Saddam had been
secretly negotiating with the "Dear Leader" Kim Jong-il in a series of
secret meetings in Syria, as late as the spring of 2003, to buy a
North Korean missile system, and missile-production system, right off
the shelf. (This attempt was not uncovered until after the fall of
Baghdad, the coalition's presence having meanwhile put an end to the
negotiations.)
Thus, in spite of the film's loaded bias against the work of the mind,
you can grasp even while watching it that Michael Moore has just said,
in so many words, the one thing that no reflective or informed person
can possibly believe: that Saddam Hussein was no problem. No problem
at all. Now look again at the facts I have cited above. If these
things had been allowed to happen under any other administration, you
can be sure that Moore and others would now glibly be accusing the
president of ignoring, or of having ignored, some fairly unmistakable
"warnings."
The same "let's have it both ways" opportunism infects his treatment
of another very serious subject, namely domestic counterterrorist
policy. From being accused of overlooking too many warnings-not
exactly an original point-the administration is now lavishly taunted
for issuing too many. (Would there not have been "fear" if the
harbingers of 9/11 had been taken seriously?) We are shown some
American civilians who have had absurd encounters with idiotic
"security" staff. (Have you ever met anyone who can't tell such a
story?) Then we are immediately shown underfunded police departments
that don't have the means or the manpower to do any stop-and-search: a
power suddenly demanded by Moore on their behalf that we know by
definition would at least lead to some ridiculous interrogations.
Finally, Moore complains that there isn't enough intrusion and
confiscation at airports and says that it is appalling that every air
traveler is not forcibly relieved of all matches and lighters. (Cue
mood music for sinister influence of Big Tobacco.) So-he wants even
more pocket-rummaging by airport officials? Uh, no, not exactly. But
by this stage, who's counting? Moore is having it three ways and
asserting everything and nothing. Again-simply not serious.
Circling back to where we began, why did Moore's evil Saudis not join
"the Coalition of the Willing"? Why instead did they force the United
States to switch its regional military headquarters to Qatar? If the
Bush family and the al-Saud dynasty live in each other's pockets, as
is alleged in a sort of vulgar sub-Brechtian scene with Arab
headdresses replacing top hats, then how come the most reactionary
regime in the region has been powerless to stop Bush from demolishing
its clone in Kabul and its buffer regime in Baghdad? The Saudis hate,
as they did in 1991, the idea that Iraq's recuperated oil industry
might challenge their near-monopoly. They fear the liberation of the
Shiite Muslims they so despise. To make these elementary points is to
collapse the whole pathetic edifice of the film's "theory." Perhaps
Moore prefers the pro-Saudi Kissinger/Scowcroft plan for the Middle
East, where stability trumps every other consideration and where one
dare not upset the local house of cards, or killing-field of Kurds?
This would be a strange position for a purported radical. Then again,
perhaps he does not take this conservative line because his real pitch
is not to any audience member with a serious interest in foreign
policy. It is to the provincial isolationist.
I have already said that Moore's film has the staunch courage to mock
Bush for his verbal infelicity. Yet it's much, much braver than that.
From Fahrenheit 9/11 you can glean even more astounding and hidden
disclosures, such as the capitalist nature of American society, the
existence of Eisenhower's "military-industrial complex," and the use
of "spin" in the presentation of our politicians. It's high time
someone had the nerve to point this out. There's more. Poor people
often volunteer to join the army, and some of them are duskier than
others. Betcha didn't know that. Back in Flint, Mich., Moore feels on
safe ground. There are no martyred rabbits this time. Instead, it's
the poor and black who shoulder the packs and rifles and march away. I
won't dwell on the fact that black Americans have fought for almost a
century and a half, from insisting on their right to join the U.S.
Army and fight in the Civil War to the right to have a desegregated
Army that set the pace for post-1945 civil rights. I'll merely ask
this: In the film, Moore says loudly and repeatedly that not enough
troops were sent to garrison Afghanistan and Iraq. (This is now a
favorite cleverness of those who were, in the first place, against
sending any soldiers at all.) Well, where does he think those needful
heroes and heroines would have come from? Does he favor a draft-the
most statist and oppressive solution? Does he think that only hapless
and gullible proles sign up for the Marines? Does he think-as he seems
to suggest-that parents can "send" their children, as he stupidly asks
elected members of Congress to do? Would he have abandoned Gettysburg
because the Union allowed civilians to pay proxies to serve in their
place? Would he have supported the antidraft (and very antiblack)
riots against Lincoln in New York? After a point, one realizes that
it's a waste of time asking him questions of this sort. It would be
too much like taking him seriously. He'll just try anything once and
see if it floats or flies or gets a cheer.
Trying to talk congressmen into sending their sons to war
Indeed, Moore's affected and ostentatious concern for black America is
one of the most suspect ingredients of his pitch package. In a recent
interview, he yelled that if the hijacked civilians of 9/11 had been
black, they would have fought back, unlike the stupid and presumably
cowardly white men and women (and children). Never mind for now how
many black passengers were on those planes-we happen to know what
Moore does not care to mention: that Todd Beamer and a few of his
co-passengers, shouting "Let's roll," rammed the hijackers with a
trolley, fought them tooth and nail, and helped bring down a United
Airlines plane, in Pennsylvania, that was speeding toward either the
White House or the Capitol. There are no words for real, impromptu
bravery like that, which helped save our republic from worse than
actually befell. The Pennsylvania drama also reminds one of the
self-evident fact that this war is not fought only "overseas" or in
uniform, but is being brought to our cities. Yet Moore is a silly and
shady man who does not recognize courage of any sort even when he sees
it because he cannot summon it in himself. To him, easy applause, in
front of credulous audiences, is everything.
Moore has announced that he won't even appear on TV shows where he
might face hostile questioning. I notice from the New York Times of
June 20 that he has pompously established a rapid response team, and a
fact-checking staff, and some tough lawyers, to bulwark himself
against attack. He'll sue, Moore says, if anyone insults him or his
pet. Some right-wing hack groups, I gather, are planning to bring
pressure on their local movie theaters to drop the film. How dumb or
thuggish do you have to be in order to counter one form of stupidity
and cowardice with another? By all means go and see this terrible
film, and take your friends, and if the fools in the audience strike
up one cry, in favor of surrender or defeat, feel free to join in the
conversation.
However, I think we can agree that the film is so flat-out phony that
"fact-checking" is beside the point. And as for the scary lawyers-get
a life, or maybe see me in court. But I offer this, to Moore and to
his rapid response rabble. Any time, Michael my boy. Let's redo
Telluride. Any show. Any place. Any platform. Let's see what you're
made of.
Some people soothingly say that one should relax about all this. It's
only a movie. No biggie. It's no worse than the tomfoolery of Oliver
Stone. It's kick-***** entertainment. It might even help get out "the
youth vote." Yeah, well, I have myself written and presented about a
dozen low-budget made-for-TV documentaries, on subjects as various as
Mother Teresa and Bill Clinton and the Cyprus crisis, and I also
helped produce a slightly more polished one on Henry Kissinger that
was shown in movie theaters. So I know, thanks, before you tell me,
that a documentary must have a "POV" or point of view and that it must
also impose a narrative line. But if you leave out absolutely
everything that might give your "narrative" a problem and throw in any
old rubbish that might support it, and you don't even care that one
bit of that rubbish flatly contradicts the next bit, and you give no
chance to those who might differ, then you have betrayed your craft.
If you flatter and fawn upon your potential audience, I might add, you
are patronizing them and insulting them. By the same token, if I write
an article and I quote somebody and for space reasons put in an
ellipsis like this (…), I swear on my children that I am not leaving
out anything that, if quoted in full, would alter the original meaning
or its significance. Those who violate this pact with readers or
viewers are to be despised. At no point does Michael Moore make the
smallest effort to be objective. At no moment does he pass up the
chance of a cheap sneer or a jeer. He pitilessly focuses his camera,
for minutes after he should have turned it off, on a distraught and
bereaved mother whose grief we have already shared. (But then, this is
the guy who thought it so clever and amusing to catch Charlton Heston,
in Bowling for Columbine, at the onset of his senile dementia.) Such
courage.
Perhaps vaguely aware that his movie so completely lacks gravitas,
Moore concludes with a sonorous reading of some words from George
Orwell. The words are taken from 1984 and consist of a third-person
analysis of a hypothetical, endless, and contrived war between three
superpowers. The clear intention, as clumsily excerpted like this
(...) is to suggest that there is no moral distinction between the
United States, the Taliban, and the Baath Party and that the war
against jihad is about nothing. If Moore had studied a bit more, or at
all, he could have read Orwell really saying, and in his own voice,
the following:
The majority of pacifists either belong to obscure religious sects or
are simply humanitarians who object to taking life and prefer not to
follow their thoughts beyond that point. But there is a minority of
intellectual pacifists, whose real though unacknowledged motive
appears to be hatred of western democracy and admiration for
totalitarianism. Pacifist propaganda usually boils down to saying that
one side is as bad as the other, but if one looks closely at the
writing of the younger intellectual pacifists, one finds that they do
not by any means express impartial disapproval but are directed almost
entirely against Britain and the United States …
And that's just from Orwell's Notes on Nationalism in May 1945. A
short word of advice: In general, it's highly unwise to quote Orwell
if you are already way out of your depth on the question of moral
equivalence. It's also incautious to remind people of Orwell if you
are engaged in a sophomoric celluloid rewriting of recent history.
If Michael Moore had had his way, Slobodan Milosevic would still be
the big man in a starved and tyrannical Serbia. Bosnia and Kosovo
would have been cleansed and annexed. If Michael Moore had been
listened to, Afghanistan would still be under Taliban rule, and Kuwait
would have remained part of Iraq. And Iraq itself would still be the
personal property of a psychopathic crime family, bargaining covertly
with the slave state of North Korea for WMD. You might hope that a
retrospective awareness of this kind would induce a little modesty. To
the contrary, it is employed to pump air into one of the great sagging
blimps of our sorry, mediocre, celeb-rotten culture. Rock the vote,
indeed.
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Liberals Hate America!
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that's wht I call an explosive story. the part
about Moon's ownership of the Washington Times is old;
they give it away on Capitol Hill,
which should explain some thing. but,
he *is* the Messiah.
here is osmething that was not listed in your links,
whatsoever:
Moon also runs the central control points of world academic opinion.
Through his International Conferences for the Unity of Science and
Federation of World Professors, Moon pays six-digit honoraria to
leading scientists, with emphasis on using their reputations to
promote population control, artificial intelligence, and world
federalism. Moon owns the second major daily in the national capital
of the world's greatest power, the Washington Times, and the second
largest wire service, United Press International. He controls
industries around the world, ranging from food production and
distribution to arms manufacture, including the original producers of
the Thompson sub-machine gun.
Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-Conn.) recently received the 2002
"Truman-Reagan Freedom Award" from the Moonie front group, the Victims
of Communism Memorial Foundation. In 2000, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.)
presided over the award presentation. The president of this
Foundation, Lee Edwards, is the editor of the Sun Myung Moon magazine,
The World and I. Its public liaison officer is society editor of
Moon's Washington Times. Included on the National Advisory Council of
this Moonie front are: former National Security Adviser Zbigniew
Brzezinski; former Senators Robert Dole, Dennis DeConcini, and
Claiborne Pell; former UN Ambassador and now head of the American
Enterprise Institute Jeane Kirkpatrick; the head of the Heritage
Foundation; and many more officials of "respectable" organizations and
talking heads you see on television every day.
So Who, or What Is Moon?
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2002/2949moonification.html
MOONIES for Bush <Washington_Times@UPI.com> wrote in message news:<l8doi0tfde4nm9cnp9bttebpgfvbg8m3jb@4ax.com>...
SUN MYUNG MOON gave North Korea NUKE DELIVERY SYSTEMS.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Nukes.html
Sun Myung Moon owns the Washington Times newspaper, and he owns the
UPI (United Press International) wireservice. He controls the main
Washington DC conservative propaganda mill. The Washington Times has
been subsidized by over a billion dollars of moonie slave labor. Every
time that a republican politician quotes the Washington Times, or
writes an article or op-ed in it, Sun Myung Moon is made larger in his
brainwashed follower's eyes. Conservatives are so desperate for
propaganda for their agenda that they willingly aid and abet Sun Myung
* Is George Bush a Moonie? - Bush takes $100,000 to endorse the
Moonies
--Give Earth a Trickier ***** Cheeny -- out of office, after gigayears!
http://larouchepub.com/pr/2004/040505missouri_testim.html
http://larouchepub.com/other/2003/3045dems_dive_soros.html
http://tarpley.net/bush12.htm
http://www.benfranklinbooks.com/
http://members.tripod.com/~american_almanac
http://www.wlym.com/pdf/iclc/howthenation.pdf
http://larouchepub.com/other/2003/3048iraq_58_const.html
http://www.rand.org/publications/randreview/issues/rr.12.00/
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/plates/figs/plate02.html
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On 25 Aug 2004 11:52:07 -0700, (Brian Quincy
Hutchings) wrote:
So Who, or What Is Moon?
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2002/2949moonification.html
Ah nut job rivalries!
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Vote Bush/Voldemort 2004!
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<retrogrouch@comcast.net> wrote:
On 25 Aug 2004 11:52:07 -0700, (Brian Quincy
Hutchings) wrote:
So Who, or What Is Moon?
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2002/2949moonification.html
Ah nut job rivalries!
The difference being that Moon is a nut job with actual power, whereas
LaRouche is just a nut job.
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"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go
to war." - GWB, Houston Chronicle, January 2002
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So what? Is it a problem just because his religion is not the same as
yours??
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Bill
"Brian Quincy Hutchings" <QncyMI@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:bde404c9.0408251052.4c2dda50@posting.google.com...
that's wht I call an explosive story. the part
about Moon's ownership of the Washington Times is old;
they give it away on Capitol Hill,
which should explain some thing. but,
he *is* the Messiah.
here is osmething that was not listed in your links,
whatsoever:
Moon also runs the central control points of world academic opinion.
Through his International Conferences for the Unity of Science and
Federation of World Professors, Moon pays six-digit honoraria to
leading scientists, with emphasis on using their reputations to
promote population control, artificial intelligence, and world
federalism. Moon owns the second major daily in the national capital
of the world's greatest power, the Washington Times, and the second
largest wire service, United Press International. He controls
industries around the world, ranging from food production and
distribution to arms manufacture, including the original producers of
the Thompson sub-machine gun.
Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-Conn.) recently received the 2002
"Truman-Reagan Freedom Award" from the Moonie front group, the Victims
of Communism Memorial Foundation. In 2000, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.)
presided over the award presentation. The president of this
Foundation, Lee Edwards, is the editor of the Sun Myung Moon magazine,
The World and I. Its public liaison officer is society editor of
Moon's Washington Times. Included on the National Advisory Council of
this Moonie front are: former National Security Adviser Zbigniew
Brzezinski; former Senators Robert Dole, Dennis DeConcini, and
Claiborne Pell; former UN Ambassador and now head of the American
Enterprise Institute Jeane Kirkpatrick; the head of the Heritage
Foundation; and many more officials of "respectable" organizations and
talking heads you see on television every day.
So Who, or What Is Moon?
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2002/2949moonification.html
MOONIES for Bush <Washington_Times@UPI.com> wrote in message
news:<l8doi0tfde4nm9cnp9bttebpgfvbg8m3jb@4ax.com>...
SUN MYUNG MOON gave North Korea NUKE DELIVERY SYSTEMS.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Nukes.html
Sun Myung Moon owns the Washington Times newspaper, and he owns the
UPI (United Press International) wireservice. He controls the main
Washington DC conservative propaganda mill. The Washington Times has
been subsidized by over a billion dollars of moonie slave labor. Every
time that a republican politician quotes the Washington Times, or
writes an article or op-ed in it, Sun Myung Moon is made larger in his
brainwashed follower's eyes. Conservatives are so desperate for
propaganda for their agenda that they willingly aid and abet Sun Myung
* Is George Bush a Moonie? - Bush takes $100,000 to endorse the
Moonies
--Give Earth a Trickier ***** Cheeny -- out of office, after gigayears!
http://larouchepub.com/pr/2004/040505missouri_testim.html
http://larouchepub.com/other/2003/3045dems_dive_soros.html
http://tarpley.net/bush12.htm
http://www.benfranklinbooks.com/
http://members.tripod.com/~american_almanac
http://www.wlym.com/pdf/iclc/howthenation.pdf
http://larouchepub.com/other/2003/3048iraq_58_const.html
http://www.rand.org/publications/randreview/issues/rr.12.00/
http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/plates/figs/plate02.html
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Vietnam Veterans Denounce Kerry's LIES
WASHINGTON - John Kerry lived two Vietnam experiences -- one as a Navy
lieutenant, the other as a rabid protester of the war.
Returning from his tour of duty, the presumptive Democratic
presidential nominee testified before the Senate Foreign Relations
Committee in 1971, in which he claimed it was U.S. policy in Vietnam
to carry out atrocities and war crimes.
A large number of Vietnam veterans consider this testimony slanderous
and say Kerry had to know it was false. They accuse Kerry of lying
about fellow soldiers and officers to push a political agenda, and say
his words dishonored comrades in arms at a time of war.
"He knew as an officer that those were lies. It never happened," said
Vietnam veteran Carlton Sherwood, a lifelong democrat. "He was
principally responsible for cementing the image of Vietnam veterans as
drugged-out psychopaths who were totally unrestrained and who were a
murderous hoard."
After Kerry's testimony, military and independent investigations found
that many of the soldiers who told Kerry and others they committed
such atrocities were either never in the service, never in Vietnam or
couldn't provide more evidence of those horrific actions.
Kerry said this weekend that he has no regrets about his service or
his protest.
"Now, if some veterans still can't accept that or they don't like the
fact that I stood up and spoke my mind, I respect them, that is their
choice," Kerry said
Kerry is a lying communist coward.
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Left-wing liberals are EVERYTHING they accuse the right of being. They
are mean, vicious, hateful, greedy, cold-hearted, closed-minded,
selfish, intolerant, bigoted and racist.
Liberals HATE America!
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:24:33 -0400, Hanoi Jane Fonda
<hanoi_jane@N0SPAM.C0M> twrote
Vietnam veterans consider this testimony slanderous
Bush Pal SUN MYUNG MOON's Nuke-Tech to ATHEIST North Korea.
The issue is NOT purple hearts in Viet Nam, but Black Hearts in
Washington D.C.
George Bush buddy Sun Myung Moon gave nuclear weapons submarine
sea-launch technology to North Korea in 1994. That technology now
permits North Korea sea-platform launched missiles to hit continental
USA. Bush and Moon are collaborating on "SwiftVet" smear dirty tricks,
using Moon's Washington Times and UPI news operations to peddle felony
frauds.
SUN MYUNG MOON gave North Korea NUKE DELIVERY SYSTEMS.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Nukes.html
Sun Myung Moon's Japanese Toen Trading company delivered 12 Russian
Golf missile submarines with launch tubes intact. The North Korean
communists studied this technology and adapted their missiles to be
sea launched from surface and submarine platforms. North Korea now has
nuclear weapon strike capability which can reach the continental
United States from sea-based mobile launch facilities at distances of
2,500 miles. This website has clickable links to Sun Myung Moon
subversion sources, documentation, proof.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Nukes.html
LINKS -- NK sea-missile capability: http://www.navyseals.com
http://www.janes.com http://www.reuters.co.uk http://news.bbc.co.uk
http://www.washingtontimes.com http://www.newscientist.com
http://www.townhall.com http://www.freerepublic.com
http://www.libertyforum.org http://www.theage.com.au
http://www.iht.com http://www.latimes.com
LINKS -- North Korean-born Sun Myung Moon's Toen Trading Submarine
Subversion: http://www.freerepublic.com http://www.usasurvival.org
http://www.gorenfeld.net http://www.davidicke.net
http://blog.mmadsen.org http://www.kenlayne.com
http://www.pandagon.net http://jameswagner.com
http://functionalambivalent.typepad.com http://www.la-mancha.net
http://windsofchange.net http://thoughtcrimes.org http://www.vuw.ac.nz
Sun Myung Moon owns the Washington Times newspaper, and he owns the
UPI (United Press International) wireservice. He controls the main
Washington DC conservative propaganda mill. The Washington Times has
been subsidized by over a billion dollars of moonie slave labor. Every
time that a republican politician quotes the Washington Times, or
writes an article or op-ed in it, Sun Myung Moon is made larger in his
brainwashed follower's eyes. Conservatives are so desperate for
propaganda for their agenda that they willingly aid and abet Sun Myung
Moon's organized crime activities in exchange for the help his
organized crime front operations deliver to them.
Sun Myung Moon has paid ex-presidents, such as George Herbert Walker
Bush up to $10,000,000 for photo-op and endorsements, because his
virtually captive followers have very restricted access to news. They
are told that everybody Moon shakes hands with has accepted Moon as
their lord and savior. This global slave labor force replenishes a $10
million expense for faked stage setting photo-op in a couple of days.
LINKS about Moonies, Bush, Washinton Times connections:
The Moonies: Everything you wanted to know about Sun Myung Moon and
the Unification Church
Moonie and Related Links
* The Right Wing Media Conspiracy - How the Moonies and right wing
groups control the media
* Moonies and the Washington Times - The mouthpiece of Sun Myung
Moon
* Is George Bush a Moonie? - Bush takes $100,000 to endorse the
Moonies
* Inside Look at the Moonies - Great article I snagged
* Moonie Front Organizations - 1000 organization that are Moonie
fronts
* Consortium News - Very good articles about Moonies and other
right wingers
* Bush and Moon - US CIA and Korean CIA?? GHW Bush Praises Sun
Myung Moon as 'Man of Vision'
* Sun Myung Moon - "the Savior, Messiah and King of Kings of all
of humanity"
* The Bush-Kim-Moon Triangle of Money - the political largesse of
Sun Myung Moon.
Sun Myung Moon crowned as Second Coming in DC
The news of a very strange event that occurred at the end of March,
but was quietly swept under the carpet by the mainstream media, is
just now beginning to leak out. Expect to hear more about it in the
coming days. Here's a preview on what surely must be one of the most
bizarre happenings in the long history of Congressional oddities...
It occurred on March 23, 2004 when Reverend Sun Myung Moon, cultist
leader of the Unification Church (currently known as The Family
Federation for World Peace and Unification), was crowned "King of
Peace" in a coronation ceremony. In his coronation speech, Moon told
the audience that it was now time to officially recognize him as the
returned Messiah.
LINKS:
Moon Crowned in the Capital, [Unification Church] Sun Myung Moon
Crowned 'King Of America' At U.S. Senate Building, Hail to the Moon
king, Moon Over Washington, Sun Myung Moon Crowned Messiah By
Congressmen, Sun Myung Moon crowned as Messiah by U.S. Senate! Moonie
leader 'crowned' in Senate, Sun Myung Moon Crowned Messiah! U.S.
Lawmakers Crown rev. Sun Myung Moon Messiah! Here's a guy the
Republicans don't want us to know about. (Actually, it was a democrat
conservative, to the great relief of republican conservatives, who
placed the crown on Moon, in this hoax ceremony. In Moon's world he
replaces all governments with his Taliban, so Republicans and
Democrats all will be liquidated.
The quaint mass marriage ceremonies of the Moonies has another
significance: these represent thousands upon thousand upon thousands
of members of an organized crime empire, as dedicated as body-bomb
suicide muslims, to the eccentric whims of this visibly insane man.
Moonies surreptitiously swell rallies for rightwing causes, clog the
internet forums with their unshakable propaganda-mongering which
cannot be reasoned with, vote as a block and move across state lines
to do it. They even move across international boundaries to meddle in
politics.
Moonies also collaborate with other organized crime rings for mutal
profit.
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Koctopus_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Killer_David_Koch.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/CSE_Organized_Crime.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_CFACT.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Seitz_Tobacco_Crimes.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Nightline.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-1993-1994.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Singer-Seitz.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Stohrer-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Hazeltine-Singer.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Heidelberg-Appeal.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Sallie_Baliunas.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Walter_Williams_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Richard_S_Lindzen.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/ADTI_Frauds_01.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/AdTI_Villians.htm
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Pelosi.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Becky_Norton_Dunlop_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Confronting_AdTI.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Chrispeels.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Idsos.html
http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/Corrupt_Fred_Michel.html
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25 Aug 2004 02:32:57 AM |
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Moore is shameless in feeding his own ego
Observer film writer Mark Kermode on the controversial filmmaker
behind Fahrenheit 9/11
Sunday June 27, 2004
The Observer
The most annoying sound at this year's Cannes Film Festival was the
incessant drone of Michael Moore telling everyone in town that he had
been silenced. If only. For almost two weeks you couldn't turn on a TV
without hearing Moore spouting off about how Disney was censoring him
by refusing to distribute Fahrenheit 9/11. Of course, it was all
nonsense. Despite the fact that Moore had apparently long known about
the 'Disney issue', he chose to wait until the eve of Cannes before
screaming to the press, thereby generating the kind of frenzied
festival publicity money can't buy.
Moore played the victim; the world's press acted outraged; and the
Cannes Jury duly handed over the coveted Palme d'Or, insisting its
decision had nothing to do with politics. 'It was the best movie we
saw,' jury president Quentin Tarantino blubbed unconvincingly. Fast
forward a month and, hey presto, Moore's documentary finds itself
enjoying the kind of high-profile US opening usually reserved for
star-studded blockbuster action movies. With censorship like that, who
needs publicity?
According to legend, Fahrenheit 9/11 was made to topple George W Bush
and thereby save America from the grip of an evil tyrant. It was also
made to prove that Moore was right for attacking 'Dubya' from the
Oscar stage last year, labelling him a 'fictitious president' who was
leading his country into a 'fictitious war'.
'When I gave that speech,' Moore said later, 'it wasn't embraced by
majority opinion. I needed to clarify myself.' In fact, what Moore
needed to do was to convince everyone that he wasn't a loud-mouthed
winner (anyone clutching an Oscar sounds smug) but the loveable
underdog of yore. It's a role he has played to the hilt, with winning
results; the glittering likes of Leonardo DiCaprio, Demi Moore and
Sharon Stone have recently been snapped at screenings of Fahrenheit
9/11, while Madonna has urged her fans to see the film, insisting: 'I
don't think I ever cried so hard at a movie in my life!' (Clearly, she
never saw her own stinker, Swept Away.)
Amid this hectic round of celebrity back-slapping and public
congratulation, Moore has still found time to remind us just how
silenced and censored he is, most recently complaining about the 'R'
rating awarded to Fahrenheit 9/11, which he insists will prevent
teenagers from hearing his message - and presumably prevent him from
pocketing their lucrative demographic dollars. 'Come see my movie by
any means necessary,' Moore told young punters, adding, 'If you need
me to sneak you in, let me know.' Gee, thanks Mike.
All of which would be far more amusing if Fahrenheit 9/11 was
genuinely something to get excited about. I'll be reviewing the film
in full when it opens here in a couple of weeks, but suffice to say
that it was neither the sharpest, the funniest nor the most
politically potent documentary screened at Cannes this year. That
award goes to Morgan Spurlock's Super Size Me, a stomach-churning
attack on the fast-food industry which has all of the bite of Moore's
work with none of the self-righteous sanctimony.
Yet in the area of shameless self-publicity, Moore remains
unsurpassed, finding a way to turn every situation to his egotistical
advantage. If Bush loses the next election, Moore will doubtless claim
credit for his downfall, thus making him an international superhero.
If Bush stays, Moore can just go on blaming all those people who
'censored' his movie, from Disney, to the Ratings Board, to the dopes
of the 'Move America Forward' organisation who tried to get theatres
to boycott Fahrenheit 9/11. Haven't they heard that there's no such
thing as bad publicity, particularly where our Mike is concerned?
Whoever wins the election, you can be sure that Michael Moore won't be
a loser. Nice campaign, Mike. Shame about the film.
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| User: "raven1" |
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23 Aug 2004 11:59:41 PM |
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:24:33 -0400, Hanoi Jane Fonda
<hanoi_jane@N0SPAM.C0M> wrote:
WASHINGTON - John Kerry lived two Vietnam experiences -- one as a Navy
lieutenant, the other as a rabid protester of the war.
Yep. He went from decorated war hero to denouncing the war that he
served in. No one denies this. And if you're over five years old, your
intellectual or moral problem with this would be...?
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| User: "Fester" |
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| Title: Re: Vietnam Veterans Denounce Kerry's LIES |
24 Aug 2004 05:45:26 PM |
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"raven1" <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in message
news:41jli01cna484iqo1oflqqipql7hs5e8s1@4ax.com...
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:24:33 -0400, Hanoi Jane Fonda
<hanoi_jane@N0SPAM.C0M> wrote:
WASHINGTON - John Kerry lived two Vietnam experiences -- one as a Navy
lieutenant, the other as a rabid protester of the war.
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