Religions > Atheism > AWOL's "Honorable Discharge" Excuse Not Enough To Exonerate Him
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"Yang, AthD h.c" |
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13 Sep 2004 11:35:01 PM |
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AWOL's "Honorable Discharge" Excuse Not Enough To Exonerate Him |
http://mediamatters.org/items/200409080010
Far from being a mark of exemplar service, the honorable discharge is
better thought of as a standard severance, something every soldier
receives unless there's significant evidence of misconduct and a
commanding officer eager to brave the paperwork, panels, and
disciplinary hearings required to send the soldier home with anything
less. Like any number of other officers, Bush could have ducked out of
his service for months and still received an honorable discharge.
Going missing from military service and then squeaking out with an
honorable discharge has a rich history among politicians. Current U.S.
Representative Bobby Rush, a Democrat from Illinois, served in the
army through the mid-1960s, becoming progressively more involved with
radical antiwar groups. In 1968, after Martin Luther King's
assassination, he went AWOL from his unit to help found the Illinois
chapter of the Black Panthers. Weeks later, he was honorably
discharged.
In 1999, a Texas sheriff up for reelection saw his candidacy unravel
after local newspapers reported that, despite a subsequent honorable
discharge, he'd skipped out on Army service for several months in 1976
to "patch things up with his ex-wife."
[...]
A few years ago, a guest columnist for the St. Louis Post-Dispatch
ruminated on going AWOL from his unit routinely with a "case of beer"
to drink himself "into oblivion." "I don't know how, but I did manage
to get an honorable discharge."
[...]
Perhaps more striking is how often serious questions of misconduct
have been flat-out ignored. John Allen Muhammad, convicted last
November for his participation in the D.C. sniper shootings, served in
the Louisiana National Guard from 1978-1985, where he faced two
summary courts-martial. In 1983, he was charged with striking an
officer, stealing a tape measure, and going AWOL. Sentenced to seven
days in the brig, he received an honorable discharge in 1985.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1008 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Jésus Pépé" |
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| Title: PROOF THAT LIBERALS HATE AMERICA ==>>> AWOL's "Honorable Discharge" Excuse Not Enough To Exonerate Him |
14 Sep 2004 12:25:30 AM |
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On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:35:01 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200409080010
Far from being a mark of exemplar service, the honorable discharge is
better thought of as a standard severance, something every soldier
receives unless there's significant evidence of misconduct and a
commanding officer eager to brave the paperwork, panels, and
disciplinary hearings required to send the soldier home with anything
less. Like any number of other officers, Bush could have ducked out of
his service for months and still received an honorable discharge.
Going missing from military service and then squeaking out with an
honorable discharge has a rich history among politicians. Current U.S.
Representative Bobby Rush, a Democrat from Illinois, served in the
army through the mid-1960s, becoming progressively more involved with
radical antiwar groups. In 1968, after Martin Luther King's
assassination, he went AWOL from his unit to help found the Illinois
chapter of the Black Panthers. Weeks later, he was honorably
discharged.
In 1999, a Texas sheriff up for reelection saw his candidacy unravel
after local newspapers reported that, despite a subsequent honorable
discharge, he'd skipped out on Army service for several months in 1976
to "patch things up with his ex-wife."
[...]
A few years ago, a guest columnist for the St. Louis Post-Dispatch
ruminated on going AWOL from his unit routinely with a "case of beer"
to drink himself "into oblivion." "I don't know how, but I did manage
to get an honorable discharge."
[...]
Perhaps more striking is how often serious questions of misconduct
have been flat-out ignored. John Allen Muhammad, convicted last
November for his participation in the D.C. sniper shootings, served in
the Louisiana National Guard from 1978-1985, where he faced two
summary courts-martial. In 1983, he was charged with striking an
officer, stealing a tape measure, and going AWOL. Sentenced to seven
days in the brig, he received an honorable discharge in 1985.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1008 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Jorge W Arbusto" |
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| Title: Re: PROOF THATJESUS' PEEPEE HATES AMERICA ==>>> AWOL's "Honorable Discharge" Excuse Not Enough To Exonerate Him |
15 Sep 2004 10:15:44 PM |
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"Jésus Pépé" <jpepe@N0SPAM.C0M> wrote in message
news:260dk0hveo8rar7on82g6m4cumoot4fiql@4ax.com...
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:35:01 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200409080010
Far from being a mark of exemplar service, the honorable discharge is
better thought of as a standard severance, something every soldier
receives unless there's significant evidence of misconduct and a
commanding officer eager to brave the paperwork, panels, and
disciplinary hearings required to send the soldier home with anything
less. Like any number of other officers, Bush could have ducked out of
his service for months and still received an honorable discharge.
Going missing from military service and then squeaking out with an
honorable discharge has a rich history among politicians. Current U.S.
Representative Bobby Rush, a Democrat from Illinois, served in the
army through the mid-1960s, becoming progressively more involved with
radical antiwar groups. In 1968, after Martin Luther King's
assassination, he went AWOL from his unit to help found the Illinois
chapter of the Black Panthers. Weeks later, he was honorably
discharged.
In 1999, a Texas sheriff up for reelection saw his candidacy unravel
after local newspapers reported that, despite a subsequent honorable
discharge, he'd skipped out on Army service for several months in 1976
to "patch things up with his ex-wife."
[...]
A few years ago, a guest columnist for the St. Louis Post-Dispatch
ruminated on going AWOL from his unit routinely with a "case of beer"
to drink himself "into oblivion." "I don't know how, but I did manage
to get an honorable discharge."
[...]
Perhaps more striking is how often serious questions of misconduct
have been flat-out ignored. John Allen Muhammad, convicted last
November for his participation in the D.C. sniper shootings, served in
the Louisiana National Guard from 1978-1985, where he faced two
summary courts-martial. In 1983, he was charged with striking an
officer, stealing a tape measure, and going AWOL. Sentenced to seven
days in the brig, he received an honorable discharge in 1985.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1008 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: AWOL's "Honorable Discharge" Excuse Not Enough To Exonerate Him |
14 Sep 2004 05:35:11 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:35:01 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200409080010
Far from being a mark of exemplar service, the honorable discharge is
better thought of as a standard severance
Yes, as a good soldier. My oh my, chicken little, I think the stress is finally getting
to you.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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| Title: Re: AWOL's "Honorable Discharge" Excuse Not Enough To Exonerate Him |
14 Sep 2004 08:59:55 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:35:11 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:35:01 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200409080010
Far from being a mark of exemplar service, the honorable discharge is
better thought of as a standard severance
Yes, as a good soldier.
And you know all about soldiering:
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no. "
-Duke, explaining why it was patriotic for him to skip out on
Vietnam.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=yang++alt.atheism+duke+hell+no&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=5vki609f0ieglkd26debhtqmqjab4cqkrr%404ax.com&rnum=1
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1008 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Hanoi Jane Fonda" |
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| Title: PROOF THAT LIBERALS ARE SIMPLE MINDED IDIOTS ==> AWOL's "Honorable Discharge" Excuse Not Enough To Exonerate Him |
14 Sep 2004 10:13:05 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:59:55 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:35:11 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:35:01 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200409080010
Far from being a mark of exemplar service, the honorable discharge is
better thought of as a standard severance
Yes, as a good soldier.
And you know all about soldiering:
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no. "
-Duke, explaining why it was patriotic for him to skip out on
Vietnam.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=yang++alt.atheism+duke+hell+no&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=5vki609f0ieglkd26debhtqmqjab4cqkrr%404ax.com&rnum=1
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1008 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: AWOL's "Honorable Discharge" Excuse Not Enough To Exonerate Him |
15 Sep 2004 05:14:09 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:59:55 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Yes, as a good soldier.
And you know all about soldiering:
Yes, I know a whole lot more than you do, marine-afraid-to-be.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c" |
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| Title: Re: AWOL's "Honorable Discharge" Excuse Not Enough To Exonerate Him |
15 Sep 2004 11:45:21 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:14:09 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:59:55 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Yes, as a good soldier.
And you know all about soldiering:
Yes, I know a whole lot more than you do, marine-afraid-to-be.
And who know more about being a chickenshit than you:
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no. "
-Duke, explaining why it was patriotic for him to skip out on
Vietnam.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=yang++alt.atheism+duke+hell+no&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=5vki609f0ieglkd26debhtqmqjab4cqkrr%404ax.com&rnum=1
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1021 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Jésus Pépé" |
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| Title: PROOF THAT LIBERALS ARE SILLY MORONS ==> AWOL's "Honorable Discharge" Excuse Not Enough To Exonerate Him |
16 Sep 2004 12:05:27 AM |
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:45:21 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 17:14:09 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:59:55 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
Yes, as a good soldier.
And you know all about soldiering:
Yes, I know a whole lot more than you do, marine-afraid-to-be.
And who know more about being a chickenshit than you:
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no. "
-Duke, explaining why it was patriotic for him to skip out on
Vietnam.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=yang++alt.atheism+duke+hell+no&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=5vki609f0ieglkd26debhtqmqjab4cqkrr%404ax.com&rnum=1
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1021 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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| Title: Re: AWOL's "Honorable Discharge" Excuse Not Enough To Exonerate Him |
15 Sep 2004 07:53:53 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:59:55 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
Yes, as a good soldier.
And you know all about soldiering:
Yes, I know a whole lot more than you do, marine-afraid-to-be.
--
You are ignorant and a liar to boot
Kerry - two medals a silver and bronze star.
Bush? Well they don't give medals
for going AWOL, missing your medical and
getting grounded or falling off of a bar stool.
Kerry - a hero, Bush - a zero
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Faxhor" |
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| Title: Re: AWOL's "Honorable Discharge" Excuse Not Enough To Exonerate Him |
16 Sep 2004 04:34:18 AM |
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William Charles Barwell is a nazi friendly troll
Faxhor
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| User: "JessHC" |
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| Title: Re: AWOL's "Honorable Discharge" Excuse Not Enough To Exonerate Him |
14 Sep 2004 11:06:27 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<bfsek011rtf5pmhju31av5oh4u611h1iru@4ax.com>...
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:35:01 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200409080010
Far from being a mark of exemplar service, the honorable discharge is
better thought of as a standard severance
Yes, as a good soldier. My oh my, chicken little, I think the stress is finally getting
to you.
You should have read more than the first 19 words.
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| User: "Glenn Arnold" |
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| Title: Re: AWOL's "Honorable Discharge" Excuse Not Enough To Exonerate Him |
14 Sep 2004 10:28:57 AM |
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Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200409080010
Far from being a mark of exemplar service, the honorable discharge is
better thought of as a standard severance, something every soldier
receives unless there's significant evidence of misconduct and a
commanding officer eager to brave the paperwork, panels, and
disciplinary hearings required to send the soldier home with anything
less. Like any number of other officers, Bush could have ducked out of
his service for months and still received an honorable discharge.
Going missing from military service and then squeaking out with an
honorable discharge has a rich history among politicians. Current U.S.
Representative Bobby Rush, a Democrat from Illinois, served in the
army through the mid-1960s, becoming progressively more involved with
radical antiwar groups. In 1968, after Martin Luther King's
assassination, he went AWOL from his unit to help found the Illinois
chapter of the Black Panthers. Weeks later, he was honorably
discharged.
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My father was "Honorably discharged" from the navy before his term was
up, in response to having punched out an officer who was waking him up
to do his job. Some paperwork (I assume it wasn not his discharge
papers, but I don't know) declared him "unfit for military service,"
despite his honorable discharge.
Glenn Arnold
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| User: "stoney stoney@ the.net" |
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| Title: Re: AWOL's "Honorable Discharge" Excuse Not Enough To Exonerate Him |
14 Sep 2004 10:50:33 AM |
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Glenn Arnold wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200409080010
Far from being a mark of exemplar service, the honorable discharge is
better thought of as a standard severance, something every soldier
receives unless there's significant evidence of misconduct and a
commanding officer eager to brave the paperwork, panels, and
disciplinary hearings required to send the soldier home with anything
less. Like any number of other officers, Bush could have ducked out
of his service for months and still received an honorable discharge.
Going missing from military service and then squeaking out with an
honorable discharge has a rich history among politicians. Current
U.S. Representative Bobby Rush, a Democrat from Illinois, served in
the army through the mid-1960s, becoming progressively more involved
with radical antiwar groups. In 1968, after Martin Luther King's
assassination, he went AWOL from his unit to help found the Illinois
chapter of the Black Panthers. Weeks later, he was honorably
discharged.
<Snip>
My father was "Honorably discharged" from the navy before his term was
up, in response to having punched out an officer who was waking him up
to do his job. Some paperwork (I assume it wasn not his discharge
papers, but I don't know) declared him "unfit for military service,"
despite his honorable discharge.
Could be on that paperwork. I don't recall after all these years. On
one of them there's a letter/number code which is the determinant. It
could be on the DD-214, it's on.
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