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Religions > Atheism |
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"Tony Lawrence" |
| Date: |
30 Oct 2004 01:44:41 PM |
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BAAWA |
I haven't posted at a.a for a long, long time. I was putting some of
my older stuff up at my website and of course came across the original
BAAWA FAQ ( now at http://aplawrence.com/Personal/Philosophy/baawa.html
).
Curious to see if BAAWA had survived, I did some Googling and found
that indeed it has, and that there are even T-Shirts and Coffee Mugs (
http://www.cafepress.com/wastedinc/170426)! Wow. I think I deserve a
free one :-)
I'm still a mildly ***** atheist who can't understand why anyone
thinks religious ideas deserve anything approaching respect, and am
disgusted by the pandering that both Republicans and Democrats offer to
religion. I probably don't have to tell anyone here that a vote for
Bush is a vote for the religious right. Of course Kerry does his share
of sucking up to the religious too, but I don't think it is anywhere
near what the Republicans do.
Anyone, glad to see that there are still folks bashing the godsoaked
(btw, I might have invented that word too, but am not certain of it -
regardlesss, it's a great word and I am happy to see it has caught on).
--
Tony Lawrence
BAAWA Founder
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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31 Oct 2004 09:45:10 AM |
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On 30 Oct 2004 11:44:41 -0700, "Tony Lawrence" <pcunix@gmail.com>
said in alt.atheism:
I'm still a mildly ***** atheist who can't understand why anyone
thinks religious ideas deserve anything approaching respect
Same reason Bush gets more than 5 votes, Tony. Hydrogen. Or that
other ubiquitous commodity.
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"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus On the True Doctrine, translated by R. Joseph Hoffman, Oxford University Press, 1987
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: BAAWA |
30 Oct 2004 03:24:33 PM |
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On 30 Oct 2004 11:44:41 -0700, "Tony Lawrence" <pcunix@gmail.com>
wrote:
I haven't posted at a.a for a long, long time. I was putting some of
my older stuff up at my website and of course came across the original
BAAWA FAQ ( now at http://aplawrence.com/Personal/Philosophy/baawa.html
).
Curious to see if BAAWA had survived, I did some Googling and found
that indeed it has, and that there are even T-Shirts and Coffee Mugs (
http://www.cafepress.com/wastedinc/170426)! Wow. I think I deserve a
free one :-)
I'm still a mildly ***** atheist who can't understand why anyone
thinks religious ideas deserve anything approaching respect, and am
disgusted by the pandering that both Republicans and Democrats offer to
religion. I probably don't have to tell anyone here that a vote for
Bush is a vote for the religious right. Of course Kerry does his share
of sucking up to the religious too, but I don't think it is anywhere
near what the Republicans do.
Anyone, glad to see that there are still folks bashing the godsoaked
(btw, I might have invented that word too, but am not certain of it -
regardlesss, it's a great word and I am happy to see it has caught on).
All hail to our Warlord Emeritus! Tell Brother Stix that he's sorely
missed as well.
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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| Title: Re: BAAWA |
30 Oct 2004 08:23:04 PM |
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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 20:24:33 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On 30 Oct 2004 11:44:41 -0700, "Tony Lawrence" <pcunix@gmail.com>
wrote:
I haven't posted at a.a for a long, long time. I was putting some of
my older stuff up at my website and of course came across the original
BAAWA FAQ ( now at http://aplawrence.com/Personal/Philosophy/baawa.html
).
Curious to see if BAAWA had survived, I did some Googling and found
that indeed it has, and that there are even T-Shirts and Coffee Mugs (
http://www.cafepress.com/wastedinc/170426)! Wow. I think I deserve a
free one :-)
I'm still a mildly ***** atheist who can't understand why anyone
thinks religious ideas deserve anything approaching respect, and am
disgusted by the pandering that both Republicans and Democrats offer to
religion. I probably don't have to tell anyone here that a vote for
Bush is a vote for the religious right. Of course Kerry does his share
of sucking up to the religious too, but I don't think it is anywhere
near what the Republicans do.
Anyone, glad to see that there are still folks bashing the godsoaked
(btw, I might have invented that word too, but am not certain of it -
regardlesss, it's a great word and I am happy to see it has caught on).
All hail to our Warlord Emeritus! Tell Brother Stix that he's sorely
missed as well.
Oh..... guess I'll just go sit down over here while everyone
reminiscences about the 'good ole days'.
I don't want to get into a rant about how I stepped into the BAAWA
void and gave it new life by learning how to make a website and
digging out all the Knighthoods or contributing to the BAAWA attitude
with my posts.
I'm no Tony or Stix but GODDAMIT! *****!!! I do my best! If it
wasn't for me BAAWA would be dead. That's right!
Me! Me! Me!
Oh, sure... You're wondering if I've been drinking.
IT AIN'T NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!
It's okay.......... Tony is cool and Stix is cool....
I got my Seven of Nine doll and duct tape, so a.a. can *****.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "raven1" |
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31 Oct 2004 02:15:11 AM |
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On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 01:23:04 GMT, Steve Knight <whooly@sonic.net>
wrote:
Oh, sure... You're wondering if I've been drinking.
It would be more surprising for a BAAWA Warlord to have been not
drinking...
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| User: "" |
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31 Oct 2004 05:57:19 AM |
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Steve Knight wrote:
Oh..... guess I'll just go sit down over here while everyone
reminiscences about the 'good ole days'.
You mean pre-Bush ?
I don't want to get into a rant about how I stepped into the BAAWA
void and gave it new life by learning how to make a website and
digging out all the Knighthoods or contributing to the BAAWA attitude
with my posts.
And thank you very, very much for that. Seriously. It's not important
that a fictional organization survive so much as it is that the
ATTITUDE does.
There is so much religious idiocy in the world. My wife and I often
comment that we have to live in a semi-dream state, a sort of
suspension of reality, to survive it. If you really start thinking
about all the utterly moronic things that people all around you really
believe, it's frightening.
So, most of the time, we ignore the elephant. We realize that most
people don't think about this crap, don't want to think about it, are
happy with their nonsensical beliefs, and it really doesn't affect
their daily lives - they go on being scientists or mafia goons or
whatever. For most of our friends, neighbors, acquaintances, their
beliefs don't affect us in any way.
But then some brainless booby is the only survivor of a fire that kills
a hundred people and she goes on TV and explains that she knows God has
some special task for her. Or some politician wants to push even more
religion into our lives and a great crowd cheers him on. Things like
that remind us and we have to take deep breaths and calm ourselves
down.
One of the reasons I haven't been involved with a.a. is because it
brings me into reality and that sometimes makes me angry and upset.
It's easier to live in that dream world where you just let the god
stuff slip by, unnoticed, unremarked. The daily assaults of the
godsoaked don't stop, we just pretend we don't notice.
Well, now and then I have to take notice. So, thanks again, Steve.
Not for BAAWA especially, though that's nice, but most importantly for
ATTITUDE. Religious belief does not deserve respect and if we have to
be polite about it in our ordinary lives, fine, but we sure as hell
don't have to do the "I'm OK, you're OK" crap here. The godsoaked are
definitely NOT OK.
--
Tony Lawrence
http://aplawrence.com/Personal/
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| User: "Liz" |
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30 Oct 2004 10:24:35 PM |
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On 30 Oct 2004 11:44:41 -0700, "Tony Lawrence" <pcunix@gmail.com> in
news message <1099161881.316187.116600@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
wrote:
I haven't posted at a.a for a long, long time. I was putting some of
my older stuff up at my website and of course came across the original
BAAWA FAQ ( now at http://aplawrence.com/Personal/Philosophy/baawa.html
).
Curious to see if BAAWA had survived, I did some Googling and found
that indeed it has, and that there are even T-Shirts and Coffee Mugs (
http://www.cafepress.com/wastedinc/170426)! Wow. I think I deserve a
free one :-)
I'm still a mildly ***** atheist who can't understand why anyone
thinks religious ideas deserve anything approaching respect, and am
disgusted by the pandering that both Republicans and Democrats offer to
religion. I probably don't have to tell anyone here that a vote for
Bush is a vote for the religious right. Of course Kerry does his share
of sucking up to the religious too, but I don't think it is anywhere
near what the Republicans do.
Anyone, glad to see that there are still folks bashing the godsoaked
(btw, I might have invented that word too, but am not certain of it -
regardlesss, it's a great word and I am happy to see it has caught on).
They said you were dead.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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| User: "Randy Day" |
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| Title: Re: BAAWA |
30 Oct 2004 11:15:50 PM |
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Liz wrote:
[snip]
Anyone, glad to see that there are still folks bashing the godsoaked
(btw, I might have invented that word too, but am not certain of it -
regardlesss, it's a great word and I am happy to see it has caught on).
They said you were dead.
He got better...
--
R
Atheist Chair,
EAC Disciplinary Committee
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: BAAWA |
31 Oct 2004 05:24:49 AM |
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Randy Day wrote:
Liz wrote:
[snip]
Anyone, glad to see that there are still folks bashing the
godsoaked
(btw, I might have invented that word too, but am not certain of it
-
regardlesss, it's a great word and I am happy to see it has caught
on).
They said you were dead.
He got better...
Resurrected..
Mary saw me walk out of the tomb. No, wait, it was Rachel. Ooops,
maybe it wasn't a tomb. Coulda been a pizza joint. How the hell
should I know? Lots of people get confused about this kind of thing.
--
Tony Lawrence, BAAWA Founder
http://aplawrence.com/Personal/Philosophy/
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| User: "Randy Day" |
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31 Oct 2004 09:31:52 AM |
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wrote:
[snip]
Mary saw me walk out of the tomb. No, wait, it was Rachel. Ooops,
maybe it wasn't a tomb. Coulda been a pizza joint. How the hell
should I know? Lots of people get confused about this kind of thing.
Tsk. So many women, so little time, eh?
--
R
Atheist Chair,
EAC Disciplinary Committee
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: BAAWA |
31 Oct 2004 11:01:42 AM |
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On 31 Oct 2004 03:24:49 -0800, "pcunix@gmail.com" <pcunix@gmail.com>
wrote:
Randy Day wrote:
Liz wrote:
[snip]
Anyone, glad to see that there are still folks bashing the
godsoaked
(btw, I might have invented that word too, but am not certain of it
-
regardlesss, it's a great word and I am happy to see it has caught
on).
They said you were dead.
He got better...
Resurrected..
Mary saw me walk out of the tomb. No, wait, it was Rachel. Ooops,
maybe it wasn't a tomb. Coulda been a pizza joint. How the hell
should I know? Lots of people get confused about this kind of thing.
You were escorted by the IPU.... :)
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
No matter the candidates the superstition industry wins.
'Jesus' is a sock-puppet Christians utilize to add 'authority' to
whatever action they intend on taking. -Stoney
And Duty Imp and Rapscallion
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| User: "" |
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01 Nov 2004 05:44:48 AM |
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stoney wrote:
On 31 Oct 2004 03:24:49 -0800, "pcunix@gmail.com" <pcunix@gmail.com>
wrote:
Randy Day wrote:
Liz wrote:
[snip]
Anyone, glad to see that there are still folks bashing the
godsoaked
(btw, I might have invented that word too, but am not certain of
it
-
regardlesss, it's a great word and I am happy to see it has
caught
on).
They said you were dead.
He got better...
Resurrected..
Mary saw me walk out of the tomb. No, wait, it was Rachel. Ooops,
maybe it wasn't a tomb. Coulda been a pizza joint. How the hell
should I know? Lots of people get confused about this kind of
thing.
You were escorted by the IPU.... :)
Oh, yeah, now I remember. She was in a pisser mood that night,
defecating all around the place. It's a good thing Invisible Pink
Unicorn ***** is invisible and odorless, or I never could have finished
my pizza (Pineapple and Ham, of course - Her Pinkness would have
trampled me sorely had I ordered anything else).
Anyway, in between indiscriminately blessing people's shoes, she was
muttering about George Bush, saying things like "He's not as dumb as
you think - he's dumber" and the like. I was disagreeing - not really
defending the s.o.b. of course, but I like to get her riled up because
it's cute when her nostrils flare and she stomps Her Holy Hooves.
I guess I must have gone a little overboard though because she got
really upset and said that I didn't understand that his religious
agenda was much deeper than he ever lets on to the public and that its
disgusting that the mainstream press pretty much ignores that. I
retorted that I damn well DID understand that and that IPU's aren't the
only damn things capable of rational thought. As usual, she got all
pissy and said "The preponderance of evidence is against you", grabbed
the back collar of my shirt in her jaws and hustled me out of the
joint. So as you say, I was "escorted", though I wasn't really
participating in the exit.
She says that if Bush is re-elected, she's heading off to some
alternate universe where he gets caught diddling a duck at Camp David.
I said I doubt there is such a universe but she just laughed at me the
way she always does when she knows something I don't.
Gawd I wish *I* lived in that universe.
--
Tony Lawrence
http://aplawrence.com/Personal
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| User: "stoney" |
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01 Nov 2004 04:57:33 PM |
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On 1 Nov 2004 03:44:48 -0800, "pcunix@gmail.com" <pcunix@gmail.com>
wrote:
stoney wrote:
On 31 Oct 2004 03:24:49 -0800, "pcunix@gmail.com" <pcunix@gmail.com>
wrote:
Randy Day wrote:
Liz wrote:
[]
They said you were dead.
He got better...
Resurrected..
Mary saw me walk out of the tomb. No, wait, it was Rachel. Ooops,
maybe it wasn't a tomb. Coulda been a pizza joint. How the hell
should I know? Lots of people get confused about this kind of
thing.
You were escorted by the IPU.... :)
Oh, yeah, now I remember. She was in a pisser mood that night,
defecating all around the place. It's a good thing Invisible Pink
Unicorn ***** is invisible and odorless, or I never could have finished
my pizza (Pineapple and Ham, of course - Her Pinkness would have
trampled me sorely had I ordered anything else).
Righteously and lovingly.
Anyway, in between indiscriminately blessing people's shoes, she was
muttering about George Bush, saying things like "He's not as dumb as
you think - he's dumber" and the like. I was disagreeing - not really
defending the s.o.b. of course, but I like to get her riled up because
it's cute when her nostrils flare and she stomps Her Holy Hooves.
Yep, the twin spirals of steam.
I guess I must have gone a little overboard though because she got
really upset and said that I didn't understand that his religious
agenda was much deeper than he ever lets on to the public and that its
disgusting that the mainstream press pretty much ignores that. I
retorted that I damn well DID understand that and that IPU's aren't the
only damn things capable of rational thought. As usual, she got all
pissy and said "The preponderance of evidence is against you", grabbed
the back collar of my shirt in her jaws and hustled me out of the
joint. So as you say, I was "escorted", though I wasn't really
participating in the exit.
Well.......
She says that if Bush is re-elected,
Elected.
she's heading off to some
alternate universe where he gets caught diddling a duck at Camp David.
I said I doubt there is such a universe but she just laughed at me the
way she always does when she knows something I don't.
Gawd I wish *I* lived in that universe.
So do billions of others.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
No matter the candidates the superstition industry wins.
'Jesus' is a sock-puppet Christians utilize to add 'authority' to
whatever action they intend on taking. -Stoney
And Duty Imp and Rapscallion
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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31 Oct 2004 09:47:40 AM |
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On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 03:24:35 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> said in
alt.atheism:
On 30 Oct 2004 11:44:41 -0700, "Tony Lawrence" <pcunix@gmail.com> in
news message <1099161881.316187.116600@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
wrote:
I haven't posted at a.a for a long, long time.
They said you were dead.
Why would that have stopped him from posting?
--
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus On the True Doctrine, translated by R. Joseph Hoffman, Oxford University Press, 1987
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "raven1" |
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31 Oct 2004 02:16:21 AM |
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On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 03:24:35 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2004 11:44:41 -0700, "Tony Lawrence" <pcunix@gmail.com> in
news message <1099161881.316187.116600@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
wrote:
I haven't posted at a.a for a long, long time. I was putting some of
my older stuff up at my website and of course came across the original
BAAWA FAQ ( now at http://aplawrence.com/Personal/Philosophy/baawa.html
).
Curious to see if BAAWA had survived, I did some Googling and found
that indeed it has, and that there are even T-Shirts and Coffee Mugs (
http://www.cafepress.com/wastedinc/170426)! Wow. I think I deserve a
free one :-)
I'm still a mildly ***** atheist who can't understand why anyone
thinks religious ideas deserve anything approaching respect, and am
disgusted by the pandering that both Republicans and Democrats offer to
religion. I probably don't have to tell anyone here that a vote for
Bush is a vote for the religious right. Of course Kerry does his share
of sucking up to the religious too, but I don't think it is anywhere
near what the Republicans do.
Anyone, glad to see that there are still folks bashing the godsoaked
(btw, I might have invented that word too, but am not certain of it -
regardlesss, it's a great word and I am happy to see it has caught on).
They said you were dead.
You're confusing him with Snake Plissken again, Liz.
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| User: "Liz" |
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31 Oct 2004 06:35:21 AM |
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On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 08:16:21 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
in news message <2p79o0lcdtdihprfq651g36mmkaucp8r3u@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 03:24:35 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2004 11:44:41 -0700, "Tony Lawrence" <pcunix@gmail.com> in
news message <1099161881.316187.116600@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
wrote:
I haven't posted at a.a for a long, long time.
[-----]
They said you were dead.
You're confusing him with Snake Plissken again, Liz.
Damn. I seem to confuse a lot of people with Snake Plissken.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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31 Oct 2004 06:50:45 AM |
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On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 12:35:21 GMT in alt.atheism, Liz (Liz
<ehuth1@donotspam.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 08:16:21 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
in news message <2p79o0lcdtdihprfq651g36mmkaucp8r3u@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 03:24:35 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2004 11:44:41 -0700, "Tony Lawrence" <pcunix@gmail.com> in
news message <1099161881.316187.116600@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
wrote:
I haven't posted at a.a for a long, long time.
[-----]
They said you were dead.
You're confusing him with Snake Plissken again, Liz.
Damn. I seem to confuse a lot of people with Snake Plissken.
I though he was dead.
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| User: "" |
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31 Oct 2004 07:22:26 AM |
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Therion Ware wrote:
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 12:35:21 GMT in alt.atheism, Liz (Liz
<ehuth1@donotspam.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 08:16:21 GMT, raven1
<quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
in news message <2p79o0lcdtdihprfq651g36mmkaucp8r3u@4ax.com> wrote:
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 03:24:35 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
On 30 Oct 2004 11:44:41 -0700, "Tony Lawrence" <pcunix@gmail.com>
in
news message
<1099161881.316187.116600@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
wrote:
I haven't posted at a.a for a long, long time.
[-----]
They said you were dead.
You're confusing him with Snake Plissken again, Liz.
Damn. I seem to confuse a lot of people with Snake Plissken.
I though he was dead.
Who? Snake, or me?
I don't think either of us are, though I can't be sure. Lemme ask my
wife.. just a sec.. well, that doesn't help. She says I'm not dead,
and she saw Snake on TV just last week, but she thinks that was just a
movie because he was up on the roof of the World Trade Center. So he
might be dead. Hard to say.
--
Tony Lawrence
A god shaped hole in your head is just a place for common sense to leak
out
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: BAAWA |
31 Oct 2004 09:48:42 AM |
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On 31 Oct 2004 05:22:26 -0800, "pcunix@gmail.com" <pcunix@gmail.com>
said in alt.atheism:
A god shaped hole in your head is just a place for common sense to leak
out
Or in. Depends on luck.
--
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus On the True Doctrine, translated by R. Joseph Hoffman, Oxford University Press, 1987
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: BAAWA |
30 Oct 2004 03:02:49 PM |
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Tony Lawrence wrote:
Anyone, glad to see that there are still folks bashing the godsoaked
(btw, I might have invented that word too, but am not certain of it -
regardlesss, it's a great word and I am happy to see it has caught
on).
Earliest reference I can find for "godsoaked" is 11-20-1994:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=CzKGvE.8yB%40world.std.com
--
Tony Lawrence
BAAWA Founder
http://aplawrence.com/Personal/Philosophy/
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