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22 Jan 2005 04:14:37 PM |
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bababox - the new era.............. |
...............of the democrat obstructionist party begins.
What's her face bababox of California has fired the opening shots of the new
'rat image - that of the obstructionist. She openly labeled on of the most
popular of the returning Bush appointments to be Secretary of State as a liar.
How sad this little wo(man) from California starts it out.
As we know about obstructionists, they are more interested in their own selfish
agenda then they are in America.
How sad for our country. However, the obstructionist party is in demise now,
and I expect a new power such as the Libertarian party to emerge to oppose the
Republican party. .
duke
In God We Trust
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Matthew 7
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will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
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23 Jan 2005 02:28:19 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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..............of the democrat obstructionist party begins.
What's her face bababox of California has fired the opening shots of the
new
'rat image - that of the obstructionist. She openly labeled on of the
most
popular of the returning Bush appointments to be Secretary of State as a
liar.
How sad this little wo(man) from California starts it out.
As we know about obstructionists, they are more interested in their own
selfish
agenda then they are in America.
How sad for our country. However, the obstructionist party is in demise
now,
and I expect a new power such as the Libertarian party to emerge to oppose
the
Republican party. .
duke
What's sad is the Bush administration constantly lies including the people
in it. Pointing that out isn't nearly as sad as what Barbara Boxer is
pointing out. I heard the inerview at the hearing live on C-span and BB did
a good job. Anyone interested can check the audio archives of C-span.
--
The argument that everything had a Creator because it's too complicated, is
about as reasonable as saying that it couldn't have been created since it's
too complicated.
It's about like saying that a super flea created a dog. Then
the good fleas go to a great dog in the sky, while the bad unbelieving fleas
are scratched off into a super rug to be forever hungry. If you think dogs
weren't created by a Great Flea then you are an afleaist.
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23 Jan 2005 02:10:56 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:28:19 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com> wrote:
What's sad is the Bush administration constantly lies including the people
in it. Pointing that out isn't nearly as sad as what Barbara Boxer is
pointing out. I heard the inerview at the hearing live on C-span and BB did
a good job. Anyone interested can check the audio archives of C-span.
When some second rate congressperson from a group of people specifically known
for obstructionism declares the nominated Secretary of State of the United
States a liar, then we have a problem with the 2nd rate congressperson.
There is nothing any more dishonest than those from the 'rat Obstructionist
party. Johnkerry was the poster boy for that, and now Teddy "who was driving"
Kennedy is certainly going strong in this area.
Let's face it - obstructionism is the new in-word for the 'rats for the next 4
years.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
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23 Jan 2005 04:17:59 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 02:28:19 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com>
wrote:
What's sad is the Bush administration constantly lies including the
people
in it. Pointing that out isn't nearly as sad as what Barbara Boxer is
pointing out. I heard the inerview at the hearing live on C-span and BB
did
a good job. Anyone interested can check the audio archives of C-span.
When some second rate congressperson from a group of people specifically
known
for obstructionism declares the nominated Secretary of State of the United
States a liar, then we have a problem with the 2nd rate congressperson.
There is nothing any more dishonest than those from the 'rat
Obstructionist
party. Johnkerry was the poster boy for that, and now Teddy "who was
driving"
Kennedy is certainly going strong in this area.
Let's face it - obstructionism is the new in-word for the 'rats for the
next 4
years.
duke
But she did lie. And she tried to avoid answering the questions.
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23 Jan 2005 11:10:58 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:17:59 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com>
said in alt.atheism:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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Let's face it - obstructionism is the new in-word for the 'rats for the next 4
years.
But she did lie. And she tried to avoid answering the questions.
But that's allowed if you're a neocon.
--
"Does it ever amaze anyone else how little faith some heterosexuals have
in heterosexuality? It's supposed to be this god-given human instinct
that only the warped and perverted ever stray from; but, it seems, if we
once tell our straight children a message even as mild as "some people
are gay, and that's all right," that'll be enough to send lil' Suzy into
the arms of women forever. It's a wonder the race has survived this
long, really..."
- Charles M Seaton (21 Dec 1994)
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25 Jan 2005 01:26:46 AM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:17:59 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com>
said in alt.atheism:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:hqb7v0pn2134m827b9hqj7pca47ga24702@4ax.com...
Let's face it - obstructionism is the new in-word for the 'rats for the
next 4
years.
But she did lie. And she tried to avoid answering the questions.
But that's allowed if you're a neocon.
Not just allowed; required.
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23 Jan 2005 05:55:08 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:17:59 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com> wrote:
But she did lie. And she tried to avoid answering the questions.
Apparently not. She said so. And bababox clearly doen't know.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
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23 Jan 2005 09:00:02 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:17:59 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com>
wrote:
But she did lie. And she tried to avoid answering the questions.
Apparently not. She said so. And bababox clearly doen't know.
duke
*****
Boxer was on the Sunday TV talk show today, I think CNN, and pointed out at
least opne of her lies, which can absolutely be proved. beyond lying, Rice
claims to be against torture but at the same time in the last few days
tried to water down the anti-torture measure approved in the U.S. Senate,
and then tried to say she really didn't try to do that. All this in the
hearing last week and on TV today pointed out again by Boxer. Of course the
job of a diplomat is to lie, but none of the pols want to say that outright.
The question is, with such blatant lies and obfuscation, who's going to
believeoit. Diplomatic liars have to be believable, not be trying to get in
the Guinness Book of World Records with Saddam's guy as being the biggest
liar on the planet.
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23 Jan 2005 10:42:19 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:00:02 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com> wrote:
*****
Boxer was on the Sunday TV talk show today, I think CNN, and pointed out at
least opne of her lies, which can absolutely be proved. beyond lying, Rice
claims to be against torture but at the same time in the last few days
tried to water down the anti-torture measure approved in the U.S. Senate,
and then tried to say she really didn't try to do that.
Well, why don't you prove it beyond lying.
All this in the
hearing last week and on TV today pointed out again by Boxer. Of course the
job of a diplomat is to lie, but none of the pols want to say that outright.
The question is, with such blatant lies and obfuscation, who's going to
believeoit. Diplomatic liars have to be believable, not be trying to get in
the Guinness Book of World Records with Saddam's guy as being the biggest
liar on the planet.
Do you remember what was said?
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
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25 Jan 2005 01:26:45 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:00:02 GMT, "Ike" <accordiondoc@mindspring.com>
wrote:
*****
Boxer was on the Sunday TV talk show today, I think CNN, and pointed out
at
least opne of her lies, which can absolutely be proved. beyond lying,
Rice
claims to be against torture but at the same time in the last few days
tried to water down the anti-torture measure approved in the U.S. Senate,
and then tried to say she really didn't try to do that.
Well, why don't you prove it beyond lying.
All this in the
hearing last week and on TV today pointed out again by Boxer. Of course
the
job of a diplomat is to lie, but none of the pols want to say that
outright.
The question is, with such blatant lies and obfuscation, who's going to
believeoit. Diplomatic liars have to be believable, not be trying to get
in
the Guinness Book of World Records with Saddam's guy as being the biggest
liar on the planet.
Do you remember what was said?
The main lie she pointed out, maybe the only outright lie was when she
contradicted herself about the aluminum tubes and the non-existent nuclear
program. I didn't listen to the whole hearing, but am going by what Boxer
said on the Sunday news show I believe it was CNN with Wolf Blitzer or else
Tony Snow's show.
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22 Jan 2005 07:30:58 PM |
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Conda Rice is a liar and just lied again during the hearings.Asked about
whether or not our govt. sends prisoners to Egypt and Israel for torture,
she stated that she didn't have sufficient information to reply.
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:oju4v0979lb69nm0tk3kdhprrmkpvmgcsd@4ax.com...
..............of the democrat obstructionist party begins.
What's her face bababox of California has fired the opening shots of the
new
'rat image - that of the obstructionist. She openly labeled on of the
most
popular of the returning Bush appointments to be Secretary of State as a
liar.
How sad this little wo(man) from California starts it out.
As we know about obstructionists, they are more interested in their own
selfish
agenda then they are in America.
How sad for our country. However, the obstructionist party is in demise
now,
and I expect a new power such as the Libertarian party to emerge to oppose
the
Republican party. .
duke
In God We Trust
*****
Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
*****
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23 Jan 2005 02:03:32 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:30:58 -0500, "Abraxas" <gunnetc@suscom.net> wrote:
Conda Rice is a liar and just lied again during the hearings.Asked about
whether or not our govt. sends prisoners to Egypt and Israel for torture,
she stated that she didn't have sufficient information to reply.
She was the national security advisor. Can't you stand the truth?
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
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23 Jan 2005 04:30:46 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:03:32 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:30:58 -0500, "Abraxas" <gunnetc@suscom.net> wrote:
Conda Rice is a liar and just lied again during the hearings.Asked about
whether or not our govt. sends prisoners to Egypt and Israel for torture,
she stated that she didn't have sufficient information to reply.
She was the national security advisor. Can't you stand the truth?
So, the National Security Advisor wouldn't have information on a
subject concerning national security; like say the interrogation of
terror subjects?
Right. And I have a lovely bridge to sell you.
Either she was lying, and needs to be called on that, or she was
telling the truth and was shockingly incompetent.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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23 Jan 2005 11:12:08 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:30:46 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> said in alt.atheism:
Either she was lying, and needs to be called on that, or she was
telling the truth and was shockingly incompetent.
Or she's a neocon in a Christian administration, so telling mutually
contradictory stories is something she has to do, and you have to
believe.
--
"...I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand
why I dismiss yours."
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23 Jan 2005 05:53:08 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:30:46 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:03:32 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:30:58 -0500, "Abraxas" <gunnetc@suscom.net> wrote:
Conda Rice is a liar and just lied again during the hearings.Asked about
whether or not our govt. sends prisoners to Egypt and Israel for torture,
she stated that she didn't have sufficient information to reply.
She was the national security advisor. Can't you stand the truth?
So, the National Security Advisor wouldn't have information on a
subject concerning national security; like say the interrogation of
terror subjects?
I personally don't know what she does know. Neither do you, and neither does
bababox, who was out of line calling condi a liar.
Personally I find Condi much more honest and truthful than bababox.
Right. And I have a lovely bridge to sell you.
Either she was lying, and needs to be called on that, or she was
telling the truth and was shockingly incompetent.
Or, like she said, she had no personal knowledge of such a thing, the same as
you and I. We hear stories, but we don't know.
Do I personally think we send prisoners to Egypt or Israel for torture. I
personally don't know, and I personally don't feel such actions are sanctioned
by the US government. Has same happened? Condi and I and you don't know.
bababox is a split tongue liar.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
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24 Jan 2005 01:13:24 AM |
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:53:08 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:30:46 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
So, the National Security Advisor wouldn't have information on a
subject concerning national security; like say the interrogation of
terror subjects?
I personally don't know what she does know. Neither do you, and neither does
bababox, who was out of line calling condi a liar.
She should have called her an incompetant boob, I agree.
Personally I find Condi much more honest and truthful than bababox.
Who is this "bababox"? I'm discussing Senator Boxer. Are you capable
of discussing thi9s without acting like a three-year old and calling
people names?
Right. And I have a lovely bridge to sell you.
Either she was lying, and needs to be called on that, or she was
telling the truth and was shockingly incompetent.
Or, like she said, she had no personal knowledge of such a thing, the same as
you and I. We hear stories, but we don't know.
Earl, it's her freaking *job* to know everything about national
security matters. *She* was the person who briefed the President on
these matters, chaired NSC meetings, and helped form policy on matters
of national security. Ignorance on how we are handling terror
suspects is unforgivable. It borders on the criminal.
Do I personally think we send prisoners to Egypt or Israel for torture. I
personally don't know, and I personally don't feel such actions are sanctioned
by the US government. Has same happened? Condi and I and you don't know.
She should Earl... it's what we pay her to know about.
bababox is a split tongue liar.
Who is this "bababox"?
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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24 Jan 2005 11:59:59 AM |
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:13:24 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
So, the National Security Advisor wouldn't have information on a
subject concerning national security; like say the interrogation of
terror subjects?
I personally don't know what she does know. Neither do you, and neither does
bababox, who was out of line calling condi a liar.
She should have called her an incompetant boob, I agree.
President Bush and I consider her extremely competent.
Personally I find Condi much more honest and truthful than bababox.
Who is this "bababox"? I'm discussing Senator Boxer.
Yes, bababox.
Right. And I have a lovely bridge to sell you.
Either she was lying, and needs to be called on that, or she was
telling the truth and was shockingly incompetent.
Or, like she said, she had no personal knowledge of such a thing, the same as
you and I. We hear stories, but we don't know.
Earl, it's her freaking *job* to know everything about national
security matters. *She* was the person who briefed the President on
these matters, chaired NSC meetings, and helped form policy on matters
of national security. Ignorance on how we are handling terror
suspects is unforgivable. It borders on the criminal.
You said it - national security matters. That is not the same as what a few CIA
operatives may have done.
Do I personally think we send prisoners to Egypt or Israel for torture. I
personally don't know, and I personally don't feel such actions are sanctioned
by the US government. Has same happened? Condi and I and you don't know.
She should Earl... it's what we pay her to know about.
No, she is currently paid to be national security advisor.
bababox is a split tongue liar.
Who is this "bababox"?
duke
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Matthew 22
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23 Jan 2005 12:01:06 AM |
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In article <oju4v0979lb69nm0tk3kdhprrmkpvmgcsd@4ax.com>, duke
said...
She openly labeled on of the most popular of the returning
Bush appointments to be Secretary of State as a liar.
What's the objection, Duke? Rice really is a liar.
Why do you right-wing Christians claim to love the truth yet
avoid it like smallpox?
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23 Jan 2005 12:48:31 AM |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:01:06 -0500, Brian E. Clark
<reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote:
In article <oju4v0979lb69nm0tk3kdhprrmkpvmgcsd@4ax.com>, duke
said...
She openly labeled on of the most popular of the returning
Bush appointments to be Secretary of State as a liar.
What's the objection, Duke? Rice really is a liar.
Why do you right-wing Christians claim to love the truth yet
avoid it like smallpox?
Because they've got God on their side - and whatever God likes is by
definition the "truth".
Brian E. Clark
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23 Jan 2005 02:05:55 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:01:06 -0500, Brian E. Clark <reply@newsgroup.only.please>
wrote:
In article <oju4v0979lb69nm0tk3kdhprrmkpvmgcsd@4ax.com>, duke
said...
She openly labeled on of the most popular of the returning
Bush appointments to be Secretary of State as a liar.
What's the objection, Duke? Rice really is a liar.
You say yes, I say no. The world says no. The new 'rat Obstructionist party
say yes.
Who should I believe?
Why do you right-wing Christians claim to love the truth yet
avoid it like smallpox?
That's exactly what I was going to ask you.
duke
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Matthew 22
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22 Jan 2005 09:37:22 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:14:37 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
..............of the democrat obstructionist party begins.
What's her face bababox of California has fired the opening shots of the new
'rat image - that of the obstructionist. She openly labeled on of the most
popular of the returning Bush appointments to be Secretary of State as a liar.
How sad this little wo(man) from California starts it out.
As we know about obstructionists, they are more interested in their own selfish
agenda then they are in America.
How sad for our country. However, the obstructionist party is in demise now,
and I expect a new power such as the Libertarian party to emerge to oppose the
Republican party. .
cut the propaganda
duke
In God We Trust
*****
Matthew 7
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,'
will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he
who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
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22 Jan 2005 09:59:06 PM |
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In article
<1106429867.b194283ca42e38a44a0cdca17310dd1b@teranews>, said...
cut the propaganda
You fiend! You're asking Duke to commit suicide. The man swims
through propaganda and breathes it through his gills. If you
deny him those comfortable lies, he'll flop and flounder on the
shore of reality for a few minutes, then expire.
Then it's pan-fried Duke-fish for dinner! :)
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23 Jan 2005 01:31:27 AM |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:59:06 -0500, Brian E. Clark
<reply@newsgroup.only.please> said in alt.atheism:
Then it's pan-fried Duke-fish for dinner! :)
Better than the fate that's REALLY in store for Earl. <shudder>
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If you are open to the point of gullibility and have not an
ounce of skeptical sense in you, then you cannot distinguish
the useful ideas from the worthless ones
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23 Jan 2005 02:33:50 AM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:59:06 -0500, Brian E. Clark
<reply@newsgroup.only.please> said in alt.atheism:
Then it's pan-fried Duke-fish for dinner! :)
Better than the fate that's REALLY in store for Earl. <shudder>
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I can hardly wait until the next american civil war so I can legally
butcher the duck and boil his bones into a ducksoup gumbo.
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23 Jan 2005 02:04:30 PM |
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:37:22 +0000, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 10:14:37 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
..............of the democrat obstructionist party begins.
What's her face bababox of California has fired the opening shots of the new
'rat image - that of the obstructionist. She openly labeled on of the most
popular of the returning Bush appointments to be Secretary of State as a liar.
How sad this little wo(man) from California starts it out.
As we know about obstructionists, they are more interested in their own selfish
agenda then they are in America.
How sad for our country. However, the obstructionist party is in demise now,
and I expect a new power such as the Libertarian party to emerge to oppose the
Republican party. .
cut the propaganda
The new Democat Obstructionist Party has arrived.
duke
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Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
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