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Religions > Atheism |
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"J Young" |
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12 May 2007 08:14:31 PM |
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Baby Sex Test Could Lead to Abortions |
How can these so-called liberals call themselves 'pro-women' when the
fact is that all these abortion policies lead to higher death rates
for mothers and their pre-born baby girls. Those of us who are 'pro-
life' respect women too much to dismiss these lives as irrelevant.
Baby Sex Test Could Lead to Abortions Australia Officials Complain
Canberra, Australia (LifeNews.com) -- Officials in Australia are
concerned about a new kit that can be used to determine the sex of an
unborn child. They say that allowing someone to more easily identify
the gender of a baby could lead to abortions if the sex of the baby
isn't what his or her parents desire.
The mail order kit uses a DNA test to determine the gender of the
unborn baby at six weeks into the pregnancy and it can be ordered over
the Internet for under $500.
The Pink or Blue Early Test Kit claims to be 99 percent accurate and
it uses a finger ***** of blood from the mother to determine the sex
of the child. Results can be obtained online after processing.
A member of the Therapeutic Goods Administration, which regulates
drugs on the island nation, said it can't stop people there from
ordering the kits but it is looking into them.
"The NHMRC (National Health and Medical Research Council) are aware of
it and is seeking advice from the human genetics advisory committee,"
an official told the Advertiser newspaper.
Meanwhile, Federal Health Minister Tony Abbott, who has been outspoken
against abortion and tried to prevent sales of the dangerous RU 486
abortion drug, has asked the federal government to look into the kit.
"I have to say, speaking as a citizen rather than as a health
minister, I tend to view kids should be regarded as a gift to be
cherished rather than as a commodity," Abbott told News Limited.
"Abortion is tragic and I think abortion for sex selection is
something which should be avoided. It doesn't strike me as something
that people ought to be doing."
Australian Family Association spokesman Gabrielle Walsh called on the
government there to block sales of the kit.
"Sex selection in terms of family planning is of grave concern, more
baby girls are aborted under these conditions than boys -- it is a
terrible idea," she told the newspaper.
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| User: "George Chen" |
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| Title: Re: Baby Sex Test Could Lead to Abortions |
13 May 2007 01:40:46 AM |
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The problem with Christians is that they assume that everybody is as
immoral as they are. What's wrong with having a daughter instead of a
son???
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Baby Sex Test Could Lead to Abortions |
13 May 2007 03:48:38 AM |
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On May 12, 11:40 pm, George Chen <georgech...@yahoo.com> wrote:
The problem with Christians is that they assume that everybody is as
immoral as they are. What's wrong with having a daughter instead of a son???
What a stupid post. How long have you been out of your
padded cell? The problem isn't with Christians, it's those
radical feminists, most of whom look like men and no doubt
wish they are that is the problem and most of them
are not Christiians, they all have those funny mittle European
names.
P.S. This is a jew NG. and it's the joo who loooooooooooves
abortion mills and those who run them.
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: Baby Sex Test Could Lead to Abortions |
13 May 2007 04:01:43 AM |
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On 13 Mai, 10:48, "Boedi...@isp.com" <Boedi...@isp.com> wrote:
On May 12, 11:40 pm, George Chen <georgech...@yahoo.com> wrote:
The problem with Christians is that they assume that everybody is as
immoral as they are. What's wrong with having a daughter instead of a son???
What a stupid post. How long have you been out of your
padded cell? The problem isn't with Christians, it's those
radical feminists, most of whom look like men and no doubt
wish they are that is the problem and most of them
are not Christiians, they all have those funny mittle European
names.
Are you Native-American? No? Well, wtf are you talking about?
P.S. This is a jew NG. and it's the joo who loooooooooooves
abortion mills and those who run them.
Feminists, Jews, liberals... Yup: another of these mediocre wasps who
think that sending racist and offensive rant from his trailerpark
makes him look "manly" and somehow compensates for his pathetic
life...
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Baby Sex Test Could Lead to Abortions |
16 May 2007 03:39:36 AM |
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On May 13, 2:01 am, Parsifal <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 13 Mai, 10:48, "Boedi...@isp.com" <Boedi...@isp.com> wrote:
On May 12, 11:40 pm, George Chen <georgech...@yahoo.com> wrote:
The problem with Christians is that they assume that everybody is as
immoral as they are. What's wrong with having a daughter instead of a son???
What a stupid post. How long have you been out of your
padded cell? The problem isn't with Christians, it's those
radical feminists, most of whom look like men and no doubt
wish they are that is the problem and most of them
are not Christiians, they all have those funny mittle European
names.
Are you Native-American? No? Well, wtf are you talking about?
P.S. This is a jew NG. and it's the joo who loooooooooooves
abortion mills and those who run them.
Feminists, Jews, liberals... Yup: another of these mediocre wasps who
think that sending racist and offensive rant from his trailerpark
makes him look "manly" and somehow compensates for his pathetic life...
I'm a "she" you daft little ponce and I live in a very big house
in Palm Springs. As for being "manly" no "real" man
would allow some piece of garbage to kill his own flesh and blood.
He would marry her and raise the child. Only cowards
kill those who can't fight back.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Baby Sex Test Could Lead to Abortions |
16 May 2007 09:20:24 PM |
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<> wrote:
Parsifal <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Boedi...@isp.com" <Boedi...@isp.com> wrote:
On May 12, 11:40 pm, George Chen <georgech...@yahoo.com> wrote:
The problem with Christians is that they assume that everybody is as
immoral as they are. What's wrong with having a daughter instead of a son???
What a stupid post. How long have you been out of your
padded cell? The problem isn't with Christians, it's those
radical feminists, most of whom look like men and no doubt
wish they are that is the problem and most of them
are not Christiians, they all have those funny mittle European
names.
Are you Native-American? No? Well, wtf are you talking about?
P.S. This is a jew NG. and it's the joo who loooooooooooves
abortion mills and those who run them.
Feminists, Jews, liberals... Yup: another of these mediocre wasps who
think that sending racist and offensive rant from his trailerpark
makes him look "manly" and somehow compensates for his pathetic life...
I'm a "she" you daft little ponce and I live in a very big house
....with padded walls and attendants to watch over you.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Baby Sex Test Could Lead to Abortions |
19 May 2007 02:30:04 AM |
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On May 16, 7:20 pm, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Boedi...@isp.com <Boedi...@isp.com> wrote:
Parsifal <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Boedi...@isp.com" <Boedi...@isp.com> wrote:
On May 12, 11:40 pm, George Chen <georgech...@yahoo.com> wrote:
The problem with Christians is that they assume that everybody is as
immoral as they are. What's wrong with having a daughter instead of a son???
What a stupid post. How long have you been out of your
padded cell? The problem isn't with Christians, it's those
radical feminists, most of whom look like men and no doubt
wish they are that is the problem and most of them
are not Christiians, they all have those funny mittle European
names.
Are you Native-American? No? Well, wtf are you talking about?
P.S. This is a jew NG. and it's the joo who loooooooooooves
abortion mills and those who run them.
Feminists, Jews, liberals... Yup: another of these mediocre wasps who
think that sending racist and offensive rant from his trailerpark
makes him look "manly" and somehow compensates for his pathetic life...
I'm a "she" you daft little ponce and I live in a very big house
...with padded walls and attendants to watch over you.
Why don't you stick a pair of scissors into the brain of a
baby halfway out of the womb you baby killing cretin.
Only garbage murder their own unborn and that includes
so-called "men" who stand by and let it happen to their
own flesh and blood because they don't have the guts to
prevent it.
"Pregnancy is slavery" - Fischer the imbecile who is
badly in need of mental help and should never be allowed
to be around children of any age especially if he has a
pair of scissors in his hands.
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Ray Fischer
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Baby Sex Test Could Lead to Abortions |
19 May 2007 02:34:32 AM |
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wrote:
On May 16, 7:20 pm, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Boedi...@isp.com <Boedi...@isp.com> wrote:
Parsifal <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Boedi...@isp.com" <Boedi...@isp.com> wrote:
On May 12, 11:40 pm, George Chen <georgech...@yahoo.com> wrote:
The problem with Christians is that they assume that everybody is as
immoral as they are. What's wrong with having a daughter instead of a son???
What a stupid post. How long have you been out of your
padded cell? The problem isn't with Christians, it's those
radical feminists, most of whom look like men and no doubt
wish they are that is the problem and most of them
are not Christiians, they all have those funny mittle European
names.
Are you Native-American? No? Well, wtf are you talking about?
P.S. This is a jew NG. and it's the joo who loooooooooooves
abortion mills and those who run them.
Feminists, Jews, liberals... Yup: another of these mediocre wasps who
think that sending racist and offensive rant from his trailerpark
makes him look "manly" and somehow compensates for his pathetic life...
I'm a "she" you daft little ponce and I live in a very big house
...with padded walls and attendants to watch over you.
Why don't you stick a pair of scissors into the brain of a
baby halfway out of the womb you baby killing cretin.
Considering that never happens...
You'd think that, with the amount of vicious rhetoric and self-righteous
indignation, that the forced-pregnancy crowd would be able to find a
picture of an abortion performed during the birthing process.
However, all they have is drawings.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Baby Sex Test Could Lead to Abortions |
19 May 2007 05:17:03 PM |
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On May 19, 12:34 am, DanielSan <danielsan...@comcast.net> wrote:
Boedi...@isp.comwrote:
On May 16, 7:20 pm, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Boedi...@isp.com<Boedi...@isp.com> wrote:
Parsifal <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Boedi...@isp.com" <Boedi...@isp.com> wrote:
On May 12, 11:40 pm, George Chen <georgech...@yahoo.com> wrote:
The problem with Christians is that they assume that everybody is as
immoral as they are. What's wrong with having a daughter instead of a son???
What a stupid post. How long have you been out of your
padded cell? The problem isn't with Christians, it's those
radical feminists, most of whom look like men and no doubt
wish they are that is the problem and most of them
are not Christiians, they all have those funny mittle European
names.
Are you Native-American? No? Well, wtf are you talking about?
P.S. This is a jew NG. and it's the joo who loooooooooooves
abortion mills and those who run them.
Feminists, Jews, liberals... Yup: another of these mediocre wasps who
think that sending racist and offensive rant from his trailerpark
makes him look "manly" and somehow compensates for his pathetic life...
I'm a "she" you daft little ponce and I live in a very big house
...with padded walls and attendants to watch over you.
Why don't you stick a pair of scissors into the brain of a
baby halfway out of the womb you baby killing cretin.
Considering that never happens...
What never happens!! Are you that stupid that you have never
heard of "partial birth abortions"!! These are *not* done to
"save the life of the mother", they are done because some
tart has left it to late to kill her unborn child and instead
of doing a caesarian they prger to stick scissors into
the brain of the baby and suck out its brains.
If you consider that to be acceptable then you are just
as barbaric as the monsters who do it.
You'd think that, with the amount of vicious rhetoric and self-righteous
indignation, that the forced-pregnancy crowd would be able to find a
picture of an abortion performed during the birthing process.
You are an idiot. It is the pro death crowd who don't want
these murders to be seen by the public for fear of
arousing the disgust of those who think it is a minor
procedure in order to "help the woman".
However, all they have is drawings.
I'd like *you* to see the procedure and then come back
and tell us all what you thought about it.
You should ask your mother why she gave birth to *you*,
who knows you too could have experienced the removal
from the womb while you were in the process of breathing
and moving around.
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: Baby Sex Test Could Lead to Abortions |
19 May 2007 06:01:43 PM |
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<> wrote:
On May 19, 12:34 am, DanielSan <danielsan...@comcast.net> wrote:
Boedi...@isp.comwrote:
On May 16, 7:20 pm, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Boedi...@isp.com<Boedi...@isp.com> wrote:
Parsifal <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Boedi...@isp.com" <Boedi...@isp.com> wrote:
On May 12, 11:40 pm, George Chen <georgech...@yahoo.com> wrote:
The problem with Christians is that they assume that everybody is as
immoral as they are. What's wrong with having a daughter instead of a son???
What a stupid post. How long have you been out of your
padded cell? The problem isn't with Christians, it's those
radical feminists, most of whom look like men and no doubt
wish they are that is the problem and most of them
are not Christiians, they all have those funny mittle European
names.
Are you Native-American? No? Well, wtf are you talking about?
P.S. This is a jew NG. and it's the joo who loooooooooooves
abortion mills and those who run them.
Feminists, Jews, liberals... Yup: another of these mediocre wasps who
think that sending racist and offensive rant from his trailerpark
makes him look "manly" and somehow compensates for his pathetic life...
I'm a "she" you daft little ponce and I live in a very big house
...with padded walls and attendants to watch over you.
Why don't you stick a pair of scissors into the brain of a
baby halfway out of the womb you baby killing cretin.
Considering that never happens...
What never happens!! Are you that stupid that you have never
heard of "partial birth abortions"!!
You _are_ so stupid that you imagine that your perverted little
fantasy has some basis in reality.
You'd think that, with the amount of vicious rhetoric and self-righteous
indignation, that the forced-pregnancy crowd would be able to find a
picture of an abortion performed during the birthing process.
You are an idiot.
You're insane.
It is the pro death crowd who don't want
these murders to be seen by the public for fear of
The usual rabid screeching of hate.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Baby Sex Test Could Lead to Abortions |
19 May 2007 06:27:35 PM |
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wrote:
On May 19, 12:34 am, DanielSan <danielsan...@comcast.net> wrote:
Boedi...@isp.comwrote:
On May 16, 7:20 pm, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Boedi...@isp.com<Boedi...@isp.com> wrote:
Parsifal <jeanpascalvac...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Boedi...@isp.com" <Boedi...@isp.com> wrote:
On May 12, 11:40 pm, George Chen <georgech...@yahoo.com> wrote:
The problem with Christians is that they assume that everybody is as
immoral as they are. What's wrong with having a daughter instead of a son???
What a stupid post. How long have you been out of your
padded cell? The problem isn't with Christians, it's those
radical feminists, most of whom look like men and no doubt
wish they are that is the problem and most of them
are not Christiians, they all have those funny mittle European
names.
Are you Native-American? No? Well, wtf are you talking about?
P.S. This is a jew NG. and it's the joo who loooooooooooves
abortion mills and those who run them.
Feminists, Jews, liberals... Yup: another of these mediocre wasps who
think that sending racist and offensive rant from his trailerpark
makes him look "manly" and somehow compensates for his pathetic life...
I'm a "she" you daft little ponce and I live in a very big house
...with padded walls and attendants to watch over you.
Why don't you stick a pair of scissors into the brain of a
baby halfway out of the womb you baby killing cretin.
Considering that never happens...
What never happens!! Are you that stupid that you have never
heard of "partial birth abortions"!!
I've heard of it, but it's a lie.
These are *not* done to
"save the life of the mother", they are done because some
tart
Your misogyny is showing.
has left it to late to kill her unborn child
No such thing.
and instead
of doing a caesarian they prger to stick scissors into
the brain of the baby and suck out its brains.
Evidence?
If you consider that to be acceptable then you are just
as barbaric as the monsters who do it.
You'd think that, with the amount of vicious rhetoric and self-righteous
indignation, that the forced-pregnancy crowd would be able to find a
picture of an abortion performed during the birthing process.
You are an idiot. It is the pro death crowd who don't want
these murders to be seen by the public for fear of
arousing the disgust of those who think it is a minor
procedure in order to "help the woman".
However, all they have is drawings.
I'd like *you* to see the procedure and then come back
and tell us all what you thought about it.
Sure. Show me where it happens.
You should ask your mother why she gave birth to *you*,
who knows you too could have experienced the removal
from the womb while you were in the process of breathing
and moving around.
My mother is pro-choice.
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| User: "Kelsey Bjarnason" |
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| Title: Re: Baby Sex Test Could Lead to Abortions |
19 May 2007 10:45:02 PM |
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[snips]
On Sat, 19 May 2007 15:17:03 -0700, wrote:
Why don't you stick a pair of scissors into the brain of a
baby halfway out of the womb you baby killing cretin.
Considering that never happens...
What never happens!! Are you that stupid that you have never
heard of "partial birth abortions"!!
If there is a baby halfway out of the womb, one wonders who exactly stuck
it in there. Either way, since it's already been born, whatever procedure
is involved, it isn't an abortion, so your point isn't clear.
Now, had it been a *fetus* halfway out of the womb you might have had a
point, but even there, I suspect it's not done by jamming scissors into
the brain.
You'd think that, with the amount of vicious rhetoric and self-righteous
indignation, that the forced-pregnancy crowd would be able to find a
picture of an abortion performed during the birthing process.
You are an idiot.
Perhaps so. However...
It is the pro death crowd
.... you keep using this term, yet no such crowd has been identified, so
it's not clear who they are or what their relationship to the subject is.
As far as I can tell, the only interested sides are the "pro-lifers" and
the pro-choicers. Oh... wait... I get it, you're too stupid to tell the
difference between supporting _choice_ and being a proponent of death.
No, no, you're not actually that stupid, yet you use the term. Hmm... oh,
right, I forgot; you're a "pro-lifer", meaning a liar and a fraud. I must
bear in mind your fundamental dishonesty, the dishonesty you portray-
again - by referring to choice as death.
who don't want
these murders
I'm sorry, but what murders? None are involved, last I checked. Oh,
right, I forgot again, you're a "pro-life" liar and fraud who cannot
summon up enough honesty to differentiate between legal killing and murder.
However, all they have is drawings.
I'd like *you* to see the procedure and then come back and tell us
all what you thought about it.
Pure appeal to emotion, not a shred of logic in the mix. Funny thing
that, being completely unable to make a single argument for your position
yet holding to it so adamantly. Rather than your usual lies, deception,
misrepresentation and appeals to emotion, how about providing some actual
logic to your case? *Can* you, in fact, provide a *single* objective
argument for your position?
You should ask your mother why she gave birth to *you*
Presumably because she wanted kids. Or, if she's a woman in your world,
because she got pregnant and had no rights over her own body, so was
treated as a slave and forced to bear him. I suspect the former, but you
do seem hell bent on turning women into at best breeding cattle.
, who knows you
too could have experienced the removal from the womb while you were in
the process of breathing
and moving around.
More appeal to emotion and still not a shred of support for your position.
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I have a recurring nightmare about being a patient in my own ER.
- Martin Goldberg
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| User: "Kelsey Bjarnason" |
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19 May 2007 07:45:02 AM |
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[snips]
On Sat, 19 May 2007 00:34:32 -0700, DanielSan wrote:
Why don't you stick a pair of scissors into the brain of a
baby halfway out of the womb you baby killing cretin.
Considering that never happens...
You'd think that, with the amount of vicious rhetoric and self-righteous
indignation, that the forced-pregnancy crowd would be able to find a
picture of an abortion performed during the birthing process.
However, all they have is drawings.
You don't actually expect honesty or integrity from a pro-lifer, do you?
--
"Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he used Gish's latest as toilet paper.
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| User: "Attila" |
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19 May 2007 03:11:29 AM |
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On 19 May 2007 00:30:04 -0700, "Boedicia@isp.com" <Boedicia@isp.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<1179559804.785257.244280@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> wrote:
"Pregnancy is slavery" -
Forcing a pregnant woman to remain pregnant against her will is
slavery.
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Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Baby Sex Test Could Lead to Abortions |
19 May 2007 05:18:51 PM |
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On May 19, 1:11 am, Attila <<procho...@here.now> wrote:
On 19 May 2007 00:30:04 -0700, "Boedi...@isp.com" <Boedi...@isp.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<1179559804.785257.244...@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> wrote:
"Pregnancy is slavery" -
Forcing a pregnant woman to remain pregnant against her will is slavery.
"Atila"? You are well named. He killed many people also
like you he was pro death.
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Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
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| User: "Attila" |
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| Title: Re: Baby Sex Test Could Lead to Abortions |
20 May 2007 04:43:33 AM |
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On 19 May 2007 15:18:51 -0700, "Boedicia@isp.com" <Boedicia@isp.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<1179613131.101061.168450@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On May 19, 1:11 am, Attila <<procho...@here.now> wrote:
On 19 May 2007 00:30:04 -0700, "Boedi...@isp.com" <Boedi...@isp.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<1179559804.785257.244...@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> wrote:
"Pregnancy is slavery" -
Forcing a pregnant woman to remain pregnant against her will is slavery.
"Atila"? You are well named. He killed many people also
like you he was pro death.
I chose this screen name because of his nickname.
I see you did not disagree with my statement. You agree forcing a
pregnant woman to remain pregnant against her will is slavery.
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Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
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Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
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| User: "Kelsey Bjarnason" |
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19 May 2007 07:30:03 PM |
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On Sat, 19 May 2007 15:18:51 -0700, wrote:
On May 19, 1:11 am, Attila <<procho...@here.now> wrote:
On 19 May 2007 00:30:04 -0700, "Boedi...@isp.com" <Boedi...@isp.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<1179559804.785257.244...@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> wrote:
"Pregnancy is slavery" -
Forcing a pregnant woman to remain pregnant against her will is slavery.
"Atila"? You are well named. He killed many people also
like you he was pro death.
Once again, unable to make a point without lying. No surprise there.
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"Evidence" is a dirty word if you don't have any. - Hector Plasmic
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| User: "Kelsey Bjarnason" |
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19 May 2007 07:45:02 AM |
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[snips]
On Sat, 19 May 2007 00:30:04 -0700, wrote:
"Pregnancy is slavery"
Did he say that, or did he say that being forced to remain pregnant
against your wishes is a form of slavery?
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I'll take "Murderous Popes" for $200 Alex.
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| User: "" |
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19 May 2007 05:34:50 PM |
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On May 19, 5:45 am, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarna...@gmail.com> wrote:
[snips]
On Sat, 19 May 2007 00:30:04 -0700, Boedi...@isp.comwrote:
"Pregnancy is slavery"
Did he say that, or did he say that being forced to remain pregnant
against your wishes is a form of slavery?
Here is just a sample of what the moron posted. He's
a brick short of a load and never should be allowed to be
around children of any age.
Demanding the abject slavery of pregnant women is
demanding slavery.
The idiot Fischer Jan 7th. 2006
Don't use it as an excuse to enslave pregnant women.
The moron Fischer May 4, 2005
Involuntary servitude is illegal and immoral.
Birdbrain Fischer who equates pregnancy with slavery.
You demand enslavement of pregnant women'
Loonybird Fischer May 14, 2005
The woman is not anybody's slave.
Thick as 10 planks Fischer May 14, 2005
Pro life from conception to birth and then slavery and
execution.
Fischer, who never *did* explain what he meant by "execution"
since it is the baby who is being "executed".
She is not your slave.
Fischer who ahs obviously seen too many re-runs of "roots",
Jan 11, 2005
Only idiots equate pregnancy with slavery. A pregnant woman
is not a slave and nobody forced her to become pregnant.
There are many options for women who do not want their
babies, although, as a mother, I cannot envision any
normal woman with a maternal instinct who does not want her
unborn child. The father of the child should marry her and they
should raise the child together like normal couples. If he
refuses to marry her, she should get a court order to make sure
he supports them both financially until the child is of age.
There is also adoption a win win situation for couples who
want a child and cannot have one. Killing an already
conceived child is the options for cowards and those who
operate abortion mills for profit. One of them got himself
offed when returning home from the synagogue, good riddance
to some scum who supposedly believes in a God who,
we are told created man, but who valued money more.
I have children, I was never a slave and neither is any
other pregnant woman.
How many children do *you* have?
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I'll take "Murderous Popes" for $200 Alex.
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On 19 May 2007 15:34:50 -0700, "Boedicia@isp.com" <Boedicia@isp.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<1179614090.480118.175120@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On May 19, 5:45 am, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarna...@gmail.com> wrote:
[snips]
On Sat, 19 May 2007 00:30:04 -0700, Boedi...@isp.comwrote:
"Pregnancy is slavery"
Did he say that, or did he say that being forced to remain pregnant
against your wishes is a form of slavery?
Here is just a sample of what the moron posted. He's
a brick short of a load and never should be allowed to be
around children of any age.
Demanding the abject slavery of pregnant women is
demanding slavery.
The idiot Fischer Jan 7th. 2006
Don't use it as an excuse to enslave pregnant women.
The moron Fischer May 4, 2005
Involuntary servitude is illegal and immoral.
Birdbrain Fischer who equates pregnancy with slavery.
You demand enslavement of pregnant women'
Loonybird Fischer May 14, 2005
The woman is not anybody's slave.
Thick as 10 planks Fischer May 14, 2005
Pro life from conception to birth and then slavery and
execution.
Fischer, who never *did* explain what he meant by "execution"
since it is the baby who is being "executed".
She is not your slave.
Fischer who ahs obviously seen too many re-runs of "roots",
Jan 11, 2005
Only idiots equate pregnancy with slavery. A pregnant woman
is not a slave and nobody forced her to become pregnant.
That is not the issue. If she does not wish to be pregnant and there
is a simple procedure for terminating her pregnancy forcing her to
remain pregnant against her will is slavery.
There are many options for women who do not want their
babies, although, as a mother, I cannot envision any
normal woman with a maternal instinct who does not want her
unborn child.
There are only two options available for a pregnant woman:
1. Complete the process.
2. Terminate the process.
The father of the child should marry her and they
should raise the child together like normal couples.
Even if they hate each other.
If he
refuses to marry her, she should get a court order to make sure
he supports them both financially until the child is of age.
Suppose she refuses to marry him?
There is also adoption a win win situation for couples who
want a child and cannot have one.
That is only a possible factor after birth. It is not a factor for a
pregnant woman while she is pregnant.
Killing an already
conceived child is the options for cowards
According to you. What makes you correct?
and those who
operate abortion mills for profit.
There is much more profit for completing the process than in
terminating it.
One of them got himself
offed when returning home from the synagogue, good riddance
to some scum who supposedly believes in a God who,
we are told created man, but who valued money more.
Now you condone murder.
I have children, I was never a slave and neither is any
other pregnant woman.
That was your choice - the choice you would deny others.
How many children do *you* have?
Irrelevant. Why should that be a factor in anything?
Are humans an endangered species?
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Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
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On Sat, 19 May 2007 15:34:50 -0700, wrote:
Demanding the abject slavery of pregnant women is
demanding slavery.
Er... obviously true. Tautological, also, but obviously true.
The idiot Fischer Jan 7th. 2006
Is he an idiot because he posts something tautological, or because he
posts something true?
Don't use it as an excuse to enslave pregnant women.
The moron Fischer May 4, 2005
What, you *do* support slavery of women? How odd. The quote you pasted
suggests he is against the idea, which I would think most people in this
day and age would tend to agree with. So, he's an idiot for _not_
supporting enslavement of women?
Involuntary servitude is illegal and immoral.
Birdbrain Fischer who equates pregnancy with slavery.
Wait, he said involuntary servitude is illegal and immoral; it's certainly
illegal most places and it is definitely immoral. So, he's a birdbrain
because he points out that something illegal and immoral is, in fact,
illegal and immoral?
You demand enslavement of pregnant women'
Loonybird Fischer May 14, 2005
That is either a statement of opinion or of fact. If opinion, then
perhaps... but if it's a statement of fact, then you can't very well
criticize him for stating it. So tell me, *do* you take the position that
a woman, once pregnant, must - morally or otherwise - carry the fetus to
term; that is, give up her rights to her own body? If so, then his
expression is a statement of fact, and criticizing him for stating it is a
bit silly.
The woman is not anybody's slave.
Thick as 10 planks Fischer May 14, 2005
He's thick because he says a woman is nobody's slave? I see; so the
intelligent position would be that she *is* somebody's slave. You're a
woman, right? Whose slave are you?
Pro life from conception to birth and then slavery and
execution.
Fischer, who never *did* explain what he meant by "execution" since it
is the baby who is being "executed".
So at best this is an unexplained statement, meaning you cannot really
draw any conclusions from it.
She is not your slave.
Fischer who ahs obviously seen too many re-runs of "roots", Jan 11, 2005
Ah, so she *is* your slave? No? Then what you quote is a proper and
correct statement; how this makes him an idiot isn't clear.
Only idiots equate pregnancy with slavery.
True... however it's interesting to note that the only one here doing that
is you. How that makes *him* an idiot isn't clear.
A pregnant woman is not a
slave
Again true, although you and your ilk keep trying to change that. Still,
either way, it isn't clear how this makes him an idiot.
and nobody forced her to become pregnant
Really? I see. So a sexually mature woman *must* at all times use the
pill, implants or IUDs, just in case she gets raped while in her fertile
period. You see, rape is force and can result in pregnancy; that is, in
effect, someone did force her to become pregnant. The same is true of
some forms of abusive relationship - young girl just past menarche being
sexually abused by brother, father, uncle, etc.
So, since as you say "nobody forced her to become pregnant" despite the
fact that that very thing can and does happen, the only way to make your
statement actually true is if every female past menarche is on "ongoing"
prevention measures (as opposed to act-based measures such as condoms,
foams, etc) until she is ready to become pregnant; that way she cannot, in
fact, be forced to become pregnant.
Alternatively, she could, of course, simply choose to be pregnant from the
time she's a young teen until she hits menopause; if she remains
constantly pregnant by choice, she cannot be impregnated by force.
It's a weird world you live in, where women have to be constantly pregnant
or on "ongoing" prevention measures, just to make your simplest
statements remotely viable.
There are many options
for women who do not want their babies
Actually, I'm pretty sure giving it up for adoption is about the only
actual option. However, for women who don't want their fetuses, there is
the option of abortion. You wouldn't be spewing more dishonest nonsense
by calling a fetus a baby, would you?
I cannot envision any normal woman with a maternal instinct who
does not want her unborn child.
What you can or cannot envision isn't relevant. First, nobody wants an
unborn child, as there is no such thing. Second, many women do not want a
particular fetus, for a variety of reasons. This is simple reality; your
inability to cope with it doesn't change it.
The father of the child should marry her and they
should raise the child together like normal couples.
Of course! A woman should be forced to marry her rapist, so they can
raise the child together in a proper, loving environment.
Even if we leave rape, abuse and the like out of it, we're still left with
many other situations to cope with. Simple example: she likes him enough
to sleep with him, but not enough to have his kid... but the condom
breaks. She should marry him? Even though she doesn't want him? Why is
that? Oh, right, because *her* doing so would make *you* happy. Got news
for you, it's not your body, it's hers. It's not your life, it's hers.
Whether it makes you happy or not is of absolutely no concern to anyone.
If he
refuses to marry her
And if she refuses to marry him? Oh, right, I forgot... women don't have
rights or choices in your world; they don't even have the right to control
their own bodies. They're slaves.
It's amusing to watch you keep doing this - tell us women aren't slaves,
yet turn right around and try to dictate to them what they are and aren't
allowed to do, even with their own bodies - to turn them into slaves. If
you're so adamant that women are not slaves, why do you try to hard to
make them into slaves?
I mean hell, if that's your thing, fine, so be it. It actually does
happen to be my thing, but at least I confine it to women who choose that
role, willfully and consensually. You, by contrast, don't even bother
with those details; you simply want to dictate to them. All very strange.
supports them both financially until the child is of age. There is also
adoption a win win situation for couples who want a child and cannot
have one.
There are also several thousand children available for adoption now who
can't get homes; how adding to this number is an improvement on the
existing situation isn't clear.
Killing an already conceived child
Err... if you're killing a child, it's not just conceived, it is
delivered, and has gained the rights and responsibilities of a person; it
is also completely irrelevant to the subject being discussed.
Oh, wait, that was just you being dishonest again, wasn't it?
and those who operate abortion mills for profit. One of them got
himself offed when returning home from the synagogue, good riddance to
some scum
Hey, look at that; a "pro-lifer" who just cheered a murder. Wait, that
would make you pro-death, the very thing you accuse others of being, as if
their being "pro-death" is a heinous thing. Funny how it suddenly becomes
okay when it suits your agenda.
Well, no, that's just it; "pro-life" pretty much by definition means fraud
and lies, and you have just - again - demonstrated perfectly that even the
"pro-lifers" have no respect for life.
How does it feel to have just completely invalidated every single thing
you've argued on the subject? How does it feel to show your true colors
and be seen as not being "pro-life" at all, but only "pro" the lives you
happen to agree with?
Let me guess; you're not even honest enough to admit your own lies and
fraud; you'll attempt to justify this somehow - an acceptable killing.
Aside from the fact that this completely invalidates your position, it
also means that some killings *are* justifiable... which means that
abortion is perfectly acceptable as long as it is justifiable - and it
obviously is, to those doing it. So you've actually invalidated your own
position twice over.
Yep, like I say, scratch a "pro=lifer", find a liar and a fraud. Thank
you for making that so abundantly clear to all involved.
I have children, I was never a slave and neither is any other pregnant
woman.
Unless they're pregnant against their wishes and being denied the right to
even control their own bodies - the very thing you're trying to argue in
favor of.
How many children do *you* have?
Zero, and it's going to stay that way; I dislike children intensely. I
have no issue with *you* dropping a litter, if that's what you want, as
long as *I* don't have to deal with it. So, for example, keep the little
rotters out of the movie theaters and the like.
I was on a bus once and a woman had a young baby that wouldn't stop
screaming. She got off the bus, obviously before her intended stop. I
asked why - it was because she didn't want her child disturbing everyone
else. She was one of the *very* few mothers I've ever encountered who had
even that much basic respect for others. I'm sure there are, in fact,
many who would do such a thing as it is basic common courtesy, I've just
not encountered many of them. I am quite convinced *you* would never do
that, as you apparently have no regard for the _rights_ of others, never
mind lesser concerns such as courtesy towards them.
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....to debate Christianity does not mean that I am here
to learn any truth contrary to my beliefs. - Kenneth Mcabee
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26 May 2007 02:14:50 AM |
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On May 19, 5:45 pm, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarna...@gmail.com> wrote:
[snips]
On Sat, 19 May 2007 15:34:50 -0700, Boedi...@isp.comwrote:
Demanding the abject slavery of pregnant women is
demanding slavery.
Er... obviously true. Tautological, also, but obviously true.
The idiot Fischer Jan 7th. 2006
Is he an idiot because he posts something tautological, or because he
posts something true?
He's an idiot. Case closed.
Don't use it as an excuse to enslave pregnant women.
The moron Fischer May 4, 2005
What, you *do* support slavery of women? How odd. The quote you pasted
suggests he is against the idea, which I would think most people in this
day and age would tend to agree with. So, he's an idiot for _not_
supporting enslavement of women?
You are an idiot.
Involuntary servitude is illegal and immoral.
Birdbrain Fischer who equates pregnancy with slavery.
Wait, he said involuntary servitude is illegal and immoral; it's certainly
illegal most places and it is definitely immoral. So, he's a birdbrain
because he points out that something illegal and immoral is, in fact,
illegal and immoral?
He is an idiot.
You demand enslavement of pregnant women'
Loonybird Fischer May 14, 2005
That is either a statement of opinion or of fact. If opinion, then
perhaps... but if it's a statement of fact, then you can't very well
criticize him for stating it. So tell me, *do* you take the position that
a woman, once pregnant, must - morally or otherwise - carry the fetus to
term; that is, give up her rights to her own body? If so, then his
expression is a statement of fact, and criticizing him for stating it is a
bit silly.
It isn't her body, it is the body of an innocent baby in the womb.
If she didn;t want children she shold ahve got herself
neutered like a dog.
The woman is not anybody's slave.
Thick as 10 planks Fischer May 14, 2005
He's thick because he says a woman is nobody's slave? I see; so the
intelligent position would be that she *is* somebody's slave. You're a
woman, right? Whose slave are you?
You are an idiot.
Pro life from conception to birth and then slavery and
execution.
Fischer, who never *did* explain what he meant by "execution" since it
is the baby who is being "executed".
So at best this is an unexplained statement, meaning you cannot really
draw any conclusions from it.
My conclusion is that the idiot Fischer is an idiot and should
be in a secure facility with very strong bars on the windows.
She is not your slave.
Fischer who ahs obviously seen too many re-runs of "roots", Jan 11, 2005
Ah, so she *is* your slave? No? Then what you quote is a proper and
correct statement; how this makes him an idiot isn't clear.
You are an idiot.
Only idiots equate pregnancy with slavery.
True... however it's interesting to note that the only one here doing that
is you. How that makes *him* an idiot isn't clear.
That's because you are an idiot.
A pregnant woman is not a
slave
Again true, although you and your ilk keep trying to change that. Still,
either way, it isn't clear how this makes him an idiot.
Get some mental help before it's too late.
and nobody forced her to become pregnant
Really? I see. So a sexually mature woman *must* at all times use the
pill, implants or IUDs, just in case she gets raped while in her fertile period.
"Raped"? You are a moron.
You see, rape is force and can result in pregnancy; that is, in
effect, someone did force her to become pregnant. The same is true of
some forms of abusive relationship - young girl just past menarche being
sexually abused by brother, father, uncle, etc.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. I have no doubt that all these baby killings
are the result of rape and incest. Duh.
So, since as you say "nobody forced her to become pregnant" despite the
fact that that very thing can and does happen, the only way to make your
statement actually true is if every female past menarche is on "ongoing"
prevention measures (as opposed to act-based measures such as condoms,
foams, etc) until she is ready to become pregnant; that way she cannot, in
fact, be forced to become pregnant.
Alternatively, she could, of course, simply choose to be pregnant from the
time she's a young teen until she hits menopause; if she remains
constantly pregnant by choice, she cannot be impregnated by force.
It's a weird world you live in, where women have to be constantly pregnant
or on "ongoing" prevention measures, just to make your simplest
statements remotely viable.
There are many options
for women who do not want their babies
Actually, I'm pretty sure giving it up for adoption is about the only
actual option. However, for women who don't want their fetuses, there is
the option of abortion. You wouldn't be spewing more dishonest nonsense
by calling a fetus a baby, would you?
They are unborn children, that's how we all got here.
Perhaps you were found under a rock, but most of us
start by being conceived How did *you* get here?
I cannot envision any normal woman with a maternal instinct who
does not want her unborn child.
What you can or cannot envision isn't relevant. First, nobody wants an
unborn child, as there is no such thing. Second, many women do not want a
particular fetus, for a variety of reasons. This is simple reality; your
inability to cope with it doesn't change it.
The father of the child should marry her and they
should raise the child together like normal couples.
Of course! A woman should be forced to marry her rapist, so they can
Duh. Rape victims receive treatment that prevents
conception so you really shouldn't stoop to the propaganda
of the abortion gang.
Even if we leave rape, abuse and the like out of it, we're still left with
many other situations to cope with. Simple example: she likes him enough
to sleep with him, but not enough to have his kid... but the condom
breaks. She should marry him? Even though she doesn't want him? Why is
that? Oh, right, because *her* doing so would make *you* happy. Got news
for you, it's not your body, it's hers. It's not your life, it's hers.
Whether it makes you happy or not is of absolutely no concern to anyone.
If he
refuses to marry her
And if she refuses to marry him? Oh, right, I forgot... women don't have
rights or choices in your world; they don't even have the right to control
their own bodies. They're slaves.
It's amusing to watch you keep doing this - tell us women aren't slaves,
yet turn right around and try to dictate to them what they are and aren't
allowed to do, even with their own bodies - to turn them into slaves. If
you're so adamant that women are not slaves, why do you try to hard to
make them into slaves?
You are an idiot.
I mean hell, if that's your thing, fine, so be it. It actually does
happen to be my thing, but at least I confine it to women who choose that
role, willfully and consensually. You, by contrast, don't even bother
with those details; you simply want to dictate to them. All very strange.
supports them both financially until the child is of age. There is also
adoption a win win situation for couples who want a child and cannot
have one.
There are also several thousand children available for adoption now who
can't get homes; how adding to this number is an improvement on the
existing situation isn't clear.
If that were so, thousands of couples wouldn't have to go
abroad to adopt a child. They are spending 1000's of $s
on travel to get a baby because there aren't any to adopt.
Killing an already conceived child
Err... if you're killing a child, it's not just conceived, it is
delivered, and has gained the rights and responsibilities of a person; it
is also completely irrelevant to the subject being discussed.
Oh, wait, that was just you being dishonest again, wasn't it?
and those who operate abortion mills for profit. One of them got
himself offed when returning home from the synagogue, good riddance to
some scum
Hey, look at that; a "pro-lifer" who just cheered a murder. Wait, that
would make you pro-death, the very thing you accuse others of being, as if
their being "pro-death" is a heinous thing. Funny how it suddenly becomes
okay when it suits your agenda.
If it prevented the death of innocent babies good riddance
to the money grubbing jew.
Well, no, that's just it; "pro-life" pretty much by definition means fraud
and lies, and you have just - again - demonstrated perfectly that even the
"pro-lifers" have no respect for life.
How does it feel to have just completely invalidated every single thing
you've argued on the subject? How does it feel to show your true colors
and be seen as not being "pro-life" at all, but only "pro" the lives you
happen to agree with?
I defend those who can't defend themselves, *you* and your
vile gang are cowards who kill those unable to speak
of take their first breath.
Let me guess; you're not even honest enough to admit your own lies and
fraud; you'll attempt to justify this somehow - an acceptable killing.
Aside from the fact that this completely invalidates your position, it
also means that some killings *are* justifiable... which means that
abortion is perfectly acceptable as long as it is justifiable - and it
obviously is, to those doing it. So you've actually invalidated your own
position twice over.
Oh go and find yourself an abortion mill to work in. It is
obvious youa re not all there and ojust the type the
baby killers are looking for.
Yep, like I say, scratch a "pro=lifer", find a liar and a fraud. Thank
you for making that so abundantly clear to all involved.
I have children, I was never a slave and neither is any other pregnant
woman.
Unless they're pregnant against their wishes
Back to the red herring of rape again.
and being denied the right to
even control their own bodies - the very thing you're trying to argue in favor of.
How many children do *you* have?
Zero, and it's going to stay that way; I dislike children intensely.
And *that* about says it all. You are a child hater, one of
the despicable mob without a single moral bone in his
whole miserable body. Were you ever a child, did someone
tell you they hated you. If so, I am sure they had their
reasons. You sound like some miserly, ugly little piece
of nothing. Thank God you have no chidlren, you are
pathetic and without hope.
I
have no issue with *you* dropping a litter,
I have an issue who refers to babies as "litters". What
a piece of garbage you are.
if that's what you want, as
long as *I* don't have to deal with it. So, for example, keep the little
rotters out of the movie theaters and the like.
My children are not rotters, they are loved, unlike you.
Tou sound like some limpwristed queer to me.
I was on a bus once
Until they kicked you off.
snip rest of the moron's ravings. See what happens
when the loony bin lets them out before they are ready.
Keep taking those little blue pills, and *do* ask the doctor
to increase the dose since it appears the ones you
are taking now are not doing you much good.
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On 26 May 2007 00:14:50 -0700, "Boedicia@isp.com" <Boedicia@isp.com>
in alt.abortion with message-id
<1180163690.349436.43720@q66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> wrote:
He is an idiot.
Is that anyone who disagrees with you?
It isn't her body,
Yes, it is.
it is the body of an innocent
Meaning what?
baby in the womb.
Does not exist.
If she didn;t want children she shold ahve got herself
neutered like a dog.
Because that is your opinion?
They are unborn children,
No, they are not.
that's how we all got here.
Irrelevant.
If that were so, thousands of couples wouldn't have to go
abroad to adopt a child. They are spending 1000's of $s
on travel to get a baby because there aren't any to adopt.
No, it's because they can't find the exact model and color they want.
If it prevented the death of innocent babies
Which do not exist.
good riddance
to the money grubbing jew.
No comment needed.
I defend those who can't defend themselves,
By what authority?
*you* and your
vile gang are cowards who kill those unable to speak
of take their first breath.
Before live birth there are no 'those'.
Let me guess; you're not even honest enough to admit your own lies and
fraud; you'll attempt to justify this somehow - an acceptable killing.
Aside from the fact that this completely invalidates your position, it
also means that some killings *are* justifiable... which means that
abortion is perfectly acceptable as long as it is justifiable - and it
obviously is, to those doing it. So you've actually invalidated your own
position twice over.
Oh go and find yourself an abortion mill to work in. It is
obvious youa re not all there and ojust the type the
baby killers are looking for.
Detailed and fact filled response.
Unless they're pregnant against their wishes
Back to the red herring of rape again.
Why do you think all unwanted pregnancies are a result of rape?
and being denied the right to
even control their own bodies - the very thing you're trying to argue in favor of.
How many children do *you* have?
Zero, and it's going to stay that way; I dislike children intensely.
And *that* about says it all. You are a child hater,
Dislike is not hate.
one of
the despicable mob without a single moral bone in his
whole miserable body.
Almost everybody who refers to "moral"
means "what I think that you should do".
Were you ever a child, did someone
tell you they hated you.
Nothing was said about telling any child they were hated. Except by
you.
If so, I am sure they had their
reasons. You sound like some miserly, ugly little piece
of nothing.
Your opinion, which has been demonstrated to be worthless.
Thank God you have no chidlren, you are
pathetic and without hope.
Please provide evidence any god exists.
I
have no issue with *you* dropping a litter,
I have an issue who refers to babies as "litters".
Why?
if that's what you want, as
long as *I* don't have to deal with it. So, for example, keep the little
rotters out of the movie theaters and the like.
My children are not rotters,
I wonder if others agree.
they are loved, unlike you.
Tou sound like some limpwristed queer to me.
Because of disagreement with you?
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Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification, not work permit or citizenship.
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On Sat, 26 May 2007 06:18:42 -0400, Attila < wrote:
it is the body of an innocent
Meaning what?
Presumably means the fetus, but if fetuses are so innocent, how come God
slaughters so many of 'em? (If, that is, you buy the whole god thing idea
in the first place).
If that were so, thousands of couples wouldn't have to go abroad to
adopt a child. They are spending 1000's of $s on travel to get a baby
because there aren't any to adopt.
No, it's because they can't find the exact model and color they want.
I missed that one - with the thousands of unwanted kids in the adoption
system, she's saying there *aren't any*? Yeesh, what a loon.
good riddance
to the money grubbing jew.
No comment needed.
She did not just say "money grubbing jew". Tell me she didn't.
Zero, and it's going to stay that way; I dislike children intensely.
And *that* about says it all. You are a child hater,
Dislike is not hate.
Exactly. If you want kids, I have no issue with that - just don't expect
me to babysit. The fact I don't want any of my own is really pretty
irrelevant to anything other than a prospective spouse who does want kids.
one of
the despicable mob without a single moral bone in his whole miserable
body.
Almost everybody who refers to "moral" means "what I think that you
should do".
What's particularly amusing about the use of "morality" as she and those
like her tend to apply it is that it is almost universally something "for
the other guy". It's never "Please pass a law to stop _me_ from doing
something", you'll note. It's always about how to impose their pet views
- almost invariably religious - on others, even those not sharing the
religion.
I seem to recall there are, in fact, countries where unanimity of
religious view is more or less mandated from the top. Some of those
middle eastern countries, for example.
If so, I am sure they had their
reasons. You sound like some miserly, ugly little piece of nothing.
Your opinion, which has been demonstrated to be worthless.
Also incorrect. Ugly is opinion, miserly is simply inapplicable. The
rest isn't even opinion.
Thank God you have no chidlren, you are
pathetic and without hope.
Please provide evidence any god exists.
And that we are - I am - without hope. What, is she so shallow she
defines "hope" as "breeding like rabbits"?
if that's what you want, as
long as *I* don't have to deal with it. So, for example, keep the
little rotters out of the movie theaters and the like.
My children are not rotters,
I wonder if others agree.
The fruit falls not far from the tree?
they are loved, unlike you.
Tou sound like some limpwristed queer to me.
Because of disagreement with you?
Am I unloved? Only in the sexual sense, as I'm not seeing anyone at the
moment. Friends, family and the like, those I have in spades. The
limpwristed bit actually sort of applies - I injured the same wrist twice
and have as a result lost significant strength in it. Actually, queer
applies, too, as I am almost universally viewed as a little odd.
The implication of homosexuality doesn't apply - my interests are solely in
the other direction - but I do find it amusing that she feels this is some
sort of insult. I would much sooner be thought of as gay than as being
like her. The one just implies a sexual orientation; the other a serious
case of hatred for humanity.
--
He'd ask 'Have the cops been hot?' and sometimes I'd say 'Yes'
and he'd get nervous and leave.
- Debra Murphree, refering to Jimmy Swaggart
(Penthouse magazine, July 1988)
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| User: "Attila" |
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27 May 2007 07:56:21 AM |
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On Sat, 26 May 2007 20:45:02 GMT, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> in alt.abortion with message-id
<pbimi4-pei.ln1@spanky.localhost.net> wrote:
[snips]
On Sat, 26 May 2007 06:18:42 -0400, Attila < wrote:
it is the body of an innocent
Meaning what?
Presumably means the fetus, but if fetuses are so innocent, how come God
slaughters so many of 'em? (If, that is, you buy the whole god thing idea
in the first place).
What is the meaning of 'innocent' as used here?
If that were so, thousands of couples wouldn't have to go abroad to
adopt a child. They are spending 1000's of $s on travel to get a baby
because there aren't any to adopt.
No, it's because they can't find the exact model and color they want.
I missed that one - with the thousands of unwanted kids in the adoption
system, she's saying there *aren't any*? Yeesh, what a loon.
good riddance
to the money grubbing jew.
No comment needed.
She did not just say "money grubbing jew". Tell me she didn't.
Zero, and it's going to stay that way; I dislike children intensely.
And *that* about says it all. You are a child hater,
Dislike is not hate.
Exactly. If you want kids, I have no issue with that - just don't expect
me to babysit. The fact I don't want any of my own is really pretty
irrelevant to anything other than a prospective spouse who does want kids.
one of
the despicable mob without a single moral bone in his whole miserable
body.
Almost everybody who refers to "moral" means "what I think that you
should do".
What's particularly amusing about the use of "morality" as she and those
like her tend to apply it is that it is almost universally something "for
the other guy". It's never "Please pass a law to stop _me_ from doing
something", you'll note. It's always about how to impose their pet views
- almost invariably religious - on others, even those not sharing the
religion.
Absolutely, and the scary part is that they have no idea what you are
talking about when you object. Literally - as in a foreign language.
I seem to recall there are, in fact, countries where unanimity of
religious view is more or less mandated from the top. Some of those
middle eastern countries, for example.
If so, I am sure they had their
reasons. You sound like some miserly, ugly little piece of nothing.
Your opinion, which has been demonstrated to be worthless.
Also incorrect. Ugly is opinion, miserly is simply inapplicable. The
rest isn't even opinion.
Thank God you have no chidlren, you are
pathetic and without hope.
Please provide evidence any god exists.
And that we are - I am - without hope. What, is she so shallow she
defines "hope" as "breeding like rabbits"?
if that's what you want, as
long as *I* don't have to deal with it. So, for example, keep the
little rotters out of the movie theaters and the like.
My children are not rotters,
I wonder if others agree.
The fruit falls not far from the tree?
they are loved, unlike you.
Tou sound like some limpwristed queer to me.
Because of disagreement with you?
Am I unloved? Only in the sexual sense, as I'm not seeing anyone at the
moment. Friends, family and the like, those I have in spades. The
limpwristed bit actually sort of applies - I injured the same wrist twice
and have as a result lost significant strength in it. Actually, queer
applies, too, as I am almost universally viewed as a little odd.
The implication of homosexuality doesn't apply - my interests are solely in
the other direction - but I do find it amusing that she feels this is some
sort of insult. I would much sooner be thought of as gay than as being
like her. The one just implies a sexual orientation; the other a serious
case of hatred for humanity.
--
Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification, not work permit or citizenship.
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| User: "Kelsey Bjarnason" |
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| Title: Re: Baby Sex Test Could Lead to Abortions |
29 May 2007 07:36:57 PM |
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[snips]
On Sun, 27 May 2007 08:56:21 -0400, Attila < wrote:
Presumably means the fetus, but if fetuses are so innocent, how come God
slaughters so many of 'em? (If, that is, you buy the whole god thing idea
in the first place).
What is the meaning of 'innocent' as used here?
Might take it up with the OP, but for my pair of skunks' worth, I'd simply
note that, being cooped up in a womb and thus unable to do much of
anything - thus not able to do anything to be responsible for - suggesting
a fetus is not innocent is a bit weird. What's it guilty of - what did it
do?
--
I have not ignored your wife. - Jesse C. Jones
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Baby Sex Test Could Lead to Abortions |
29 May 2007 09:45:44 PM |
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On Tue, 29 May 2007 17:36:57 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
Might take it up with the OP, but for my pair of skunks' worth, I'd simply
note that, being cooped up in a womb and thus unable to do much of
anything - thus not able to do anything to be responsible for - suggesting
a fetus is not innocent is a bit weird. What's it guilty of - what did it
do?
There's always 'original sin', if you eat at that trough. I
personally prefer the oats before they go through the horse.
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| User: "Kelsey Bjarnason" |
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| Title: Re: Baby Sex Test Could Lead to Abortions |
30 May 2007 12:29:54 PM |
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On Tue, 29 May 2007 22:45:44 -0400, Al Klein wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2007 17:36:57 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
Might take it up with the OP, but for my pair of skunks' worth, I'd simply
note that, being cooped up in a womb and thus unable to do much of
anything - thus not able to do anything to be responsible for - suggesting
a fetus is not innocent is a bit weird. What's it guilty of - what did it
do?
There's always 'original sin', if you eat at that trough. I
personally prefer the oats before they go through the horse.
<snicker> I do like that one. :)
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Are you just naked, or are you naked for Jesus?
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| User: "Robert" |
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| Title: Re: Baby Sex Test Could Lead to Abortions |
30 May 2007 03:29:10 PM |
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On Tue, 29 May 2007 17:36:57 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
[snips]
On Sun, 27 May 2007 08:56:21 -0400, Attila < wrote:
Presumably means the fetus, but if fetuses are so innocent, how come God
slaughters so many of 'em? (If, that is, you buy the whole god thing idea
in the first place).
What is the meaning of 'innocent' as used here?
Might take it up with the OP, but for my pair of skunks' worth, I'd simply
note that, being cooped up in a womb and thus unable to do much of
anything - thus not able to do anything to be responsible for - suggesting
a fetus is not innocent is a bit weird. What's it guilty of - what did it
do?
Fucked up the woman's life, and possibly could end her life. We all
have the right to remove a unwanted invader in our bodies. In a
unwanted pregnancy the fetus is as dangerous and has all the rights of
a tumor.
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Kelsey Bjarnason" |
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| Title: Re: Baby Sex Test Could Lead to Abortions |
30 May 2007 02:02:37 PM |
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On Wed, 30 May 2007 13:29:10 -0700, Robert wrote:
On Tue, 29 May 2007 17:36:57 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
[snips]
On Sun, 27 May 2007 08:56:21 -0400, Attila < wrote:
Presumably means the fetus, but if fetuses are so innocent, how come God
slaughters so many of 'em? (If, that is, you buy the whole god thing idea
in the first place).
What is the meaning of 'innocent' as used here?
Might take it up with the OP, but for my pair of skunks' worth, I'd simply
note that, being cooped up in a womb and thus unable to do much of
anything - thus not able to do anything to be responsible for - suggesting
a fetus is not innocent is a bit weird. What's it guilty of - what did it
do?
Fucked up the woman's life, and possibly could end her life. We all
have the right to remove a unwanted invader in our bodies. In a
unwanted pregnancy the fetus is as dangerous and has all the rights of
a tumor.
Sure - but that's hardly a guilt/innocence issue, more one of "Look,
*****, this is my body, now get out." Sorta like my last date. (I did
*not* just say that, did I?) :)
--
Besides, I was an atheist infidel; what could I
possibly know about ‘God’? - Marty Leipzig
Show them the one you carved out of wood. . . . - David Rice
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Baby Sex Test Could Lead to Abortions |
30 May 2007 09:50:17 PM |
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On Wed, 30 May 2007 12:02:37 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason
<kbjarnason@gmail.com> wrote:
Sure - but that's hardly a guilt/innocence issue, more one of "Look,
*****, this is my body, now get out." Sorta like my last date. (I did
*not* just say that, did I?) :)
You said THAT to her? :)
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