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"sam7i5erotdkhgcx" |
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17 Jan 2007 11:16:12 PM |
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Barack Obama drinking his own kool aid |
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us/2007/01/barack-obama-not-snow-ball-chance-in.html
Barack Obama
Is a good speaker. Is a very handsome man.Has nice teeth. I know this
because he is always smiling like an idiot. Maybe and this is a big
maybe. He might be a good choice for vice president. But not President.
If Barack Obama thinks he can run for President and win. Barack Obama
must be drinking his own kool aid.
The media loves Barack Obama. Barack Obama is a rock star in the
Democratic party. Why? I have no idea. He has not done anything as
Senator. He has not done anything with his life. He is just another
politician. Good looks, and nice teeth, does not a president make.
I think a lot of people want him to be ( the guy). I think a lot of
people look at him, and see what they want to see.
I can not look at Barack Obama and say this is the guy. This is the guy
that will change things. This is the guy that will get the job done.
This is the guy that will help build a better future for us all. I just
can't say that. No one can. I all see is just another sweet talking
politician. I see the same thing when i look at John Edwards.
This has nothing to do with him being black.
There will of course be some people who will not vote for him because
he is black.
There will be some people who will vote for him only because he is
black.
Some people will vote for him because opera winfrey likes him.
But I think most people don't give a dam what color he is.
Barack Obama is unfit to be President. I don't like Condoleezza Rice.
But she is more fit to be President.
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us/2007/01/barack-obama-not-snow-ball-chance-in.html
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| User: "JP" |
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18 Jan 2007 05:16:20 PM |
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"sam7i5erotdkhgcx" <dumpdrop@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us/2007/01/barack-obama-not-snow-ball-chance-in.html
Barack Obama
Is a good speaker. Is a very handsome man.Has nice teeth. I know this
because he is always smiling like an idiot. Maybe and this is a big
maybe. He might be a good choice for vice president. But not President.
If Barack Obama thinks he can run for President and win. Barack Obama
must be drinking his own kool aid.
The media loves Barack Obama. Barack Obama is a rock star in the
Democratic party. Why? I have no idea. He has not done anything as
Senator. He has not done anything with his life. He is just another
politician. Good looks, and nice teeth, does not a president make.
I think a lot of people want him to be ( the guy). I think a lot of
people look at him, and see what they want to see.
I can not look at Barack Obama and say this is the guy. This is the guy
that will change things. This is the guy that will get the job done.
This is the guy that will help build a better future for us all. I just
can't say that. No one can. I all see is just another sweet talking
politician. I see the same thing when i look at John Edwards.
This has nothing to do with him being black.
There will of course be some people who will not vote for him because
he is black.
There will be some people who will vote for him only because he is
black.
Some people will vote for him because opera winfrey likes him.
But I think most people don't give a dam what color he is.
Barack Obama is unfit to be President. I don't like Condoleezza Rice.
But she is more fit to be President.
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us/2007/01/barack-obama-not-snow-ball-chance-in.html
The man does not have any personal political experience and that is why the
democrats like him. No past political troubles like hillary and john kerry.
We just elected a black liberal as governor of Massachusetts. He will do an
excellent job of fucking up my state and I'm certain if elected, this black
liberal from Illinois will do the same to the US.
He can't win....hillary can't win, so the dems better keep looking.
JP
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| User: "Fester" |
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| Title: Re: Barack Obama drinking his own kool aid |
18 Jan 2007 04:54:43 AM |
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"sam7i5erotdkhgcx" <dumpdrop@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us/2007/01/barack-obama-not-snow-ball-chance-in.html
Barack Obama
Is a good speaker. Is a very handsome man.Has nice teeth. I know this
because he is always smiling like an idiot. Maybe and this is a big
maybe. He might be a good choice for vice president. But not President.
If Barack Obama thinks he can run for President and win. Barack Obama
must be drinking his own kool aid.
The media loves Barack Obama. Barack Obama is a rock star in the
Democratic party. Why? I have no idea. He has not done anything as
Senator. He has not done anything with his life. He is just another
politician. Good looks, and nice teeth, does not a president make.
I think a lot of people want him to be ( the guy). I think a lot of
people look at him, and see what they want to see.
I can not look at Barack Obama and say this is the guy. This is the guy
that will change things. This is the guy that will get the job done.
This is the guy that will help build a better future for us all. I just
can't say that. No one can. I all see is just another sweet talking
politician. I see the same thing when i look at John Edwards.
This has nothing to do with him being black.
There will of course be some people who will not vote for him because
he is black.
There will be some people who will vote for him only because he is
black.
Some people will vote for him because opera winfrey likes him.
But I think most people don't give a dam what color he is.
Barack Obama is unfit to be President. I don't like Condoleezza Rice.
But she is more fit to be President.
It's funny that you should mention Edwards as well, because they're peas
from the same pod. Obama is the Paris Hilton of politics, and Edwards is
the Nicole Ritchie. They're 2 people who are famous for being famous, with
no other accomplishments to their credit.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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18 Jan 2007 08:44:13 AM |
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"Fester" <not@home.com> wrote in
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"sam7i5erotdkhgcx" <dumpdrop@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169097372.383839.239030@v45g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us/2007/01/barack-obama-not-snow-ball-
chanc
e-in.html
Barack Obama
Is a good speaker. Is a very handsome man.Has nice teeth. I know this
because he is always smiling like an idiot. Maybe and this is a big
maybe. He might be a good choice for vice president. But not
President. If Barack Obama thinks he can run for President and win.
Barack Obama must be drinking his own kool aid.
The media loves Barack Obama. Barack Obama is a rock star in the
Democratic party. Why? I have no idea. He has not done anything as
Senator. He has not done anything with his life. He is just another
politician. Good looks, and nice teeth, does not a president make.
I think a lot of people want him to be ( the guy). I think a lot of
people look at him, and see what they want to see.
I can not look at Barack Obama and say this is the guy. This is the
guy that will change things. This is the guy that will get the job
done. This is the guy that will help build a better future for us
all. I just can't say that. No one can. I all see is just another
sweet talking politician. I see the same thing when i look at John
Edwards.
This has nothing to do with him being black.
There will of course be some people who will not vote for him because
he is black.
There will be some people who will vote for him only because he is
black.
Some people will vote for him because opera winfrey likes him.
But I think most people don't give a dam what color he is.
Barack Obama is unfit to be President. I don't like Condoleezza
Rice. But she is more fit to be President.
It's funny that you should mention Edwards as well, because they're
peas from the same pod. Obama is the Paris Hilton of politics, and
Edwards is the Nicole Ritchie. They're 2 people who are famous for
being famous, with no other accomplishments to their credit.
Now Fester, you shouldn't say things like that about Edwards. He's got
lots of accomplishments. He's an accomplished liar, I mean lawyer.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Cherry-picking: Given a preponderance of intelligence suggesting that a
hostile and unstable dictator has weapons of mass destruction and a few
scattered reports suggesting otherwise, deciding not to give the madman
the benefit of the doubt." - Washington Post
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "G-Ride" |
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| Title: Re: Barack Obama drinking his own kool aid |
18 Jan 2007 02:44:38 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"Fester" <not@home.com> wrote in
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"sam7i5erotdkhgcx" <dumpdrop@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us/2007/01/barack-obama-not-snow-ball-
chanc
e-in.html
Barack Obama
Is a good speaker. Is a very handsome man.Has nice teeth. I know this
because he is always smiling like an idiot. Maybe and this is a big
maybe. He might be a good choice for vice president. But not
President. If Barack Obama thinks he can run for President and win.
Barack Obama must be drinking his own kool aid.
The media loves Barack Obama. Barack Obama is a rock star in the
Democratic party. Why? I have no idea. He has not done anything as
Senator. He has not done anything with his life. He is just another
politician. Good looks, and nice teeth, does not a president make.
I think a lot of people want him to be ( the guy). I think a lot of
people look at him, and see what they want to see.
I can not look at Barack Obama and say this is the guy. This is the
guy that will change things. This is the guy that will get the job
done. This is the guy that will help build a better future for us
all. I just can't say that. No one can. I all see is just another
sweet talking politician. I see the same thing when i look at John
Edwards.
This has nothing to do with him being black.
There will of course be some people who will not vote for him because
he is black.
There will be some people who will vote for him only because he is
black.
Some people will vote for him because opera winfrey likes him.
But I think most people don't give a dam what color he is.
Barack Obama is unfit to be President. I don't like Condoleezza
Rice. But she is more fit to be President.
It's funny that you should mention Edwards as well, because they're
peas from the same pod. Obama is the Paris Hilton of politics, and
Edwards is the Nicole Ritchie. They're 2 people who are famous for
being famous, with no other accomplishments to their credit.
Now Fester, you shouldn't say things like that about Edwards. He's got
lots of accomplishments. He's an accomplished liar, I mean lawyer.
Yes Fred, he's a lawyer. You are the liar.
Fred Stone: Always wrong but never in doubt.
--
G-Ride
The force that's forcing you to feel like busting up a Starbucks.
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| User: "CyßerHoG®" |
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18 Jan 2007 08:49:28 AM |
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"Fester" <not@home.com> wrote in message
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"sam7i5erotdkhgcx" <dumpdrop@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us/2007/01/barack-obama-not-snow-ball-chance-in.html
Barack Obama
Is a good speaker. Is a very handsome man.Has nice teeth. I know this
because he is always smiling like an idiot. Maybe and this is a big
maybe. He might be a good choice for vice president. But not President.
If Barack Obama thinks he can run for President and win. Barack Obama
must be drinking his own kool aid.
The media loves Barack Obama. Barack Obama is a rock star in the
Democratic party. Why? I have no idea. He has not done anything as
Senator. He has not done anything with his life. He is just another
politician. Good looks, and nice teeth, does not a president make.
I think a lot of people want him to be ( the guy). I think a lot of
people look at him, and see what they want to see.
I can not look at Barack Obama and say this is the guy. This is the guy
that will change things. This is the guy that will get the job done.
This is the guy that will help build a better future for us all. I just
can't say that. No one can. I all see is just another sweet talking
politician. I see the same thing when i look at John Edwards.
This has nothing to do with him being black.
There will of course be some people who will not vote for him because
he is black.
There will be some people who will vote for him only because he is
black.
Some people will vote for him because opera winfrey likes him.
But I think most people don't give a dam what color he is.
Barack Obama is unfit to be President. I don't like Condoleezza Rice.
But she is more fit to be President.
It's funny that you should mention Edwards as well, because they're peas
from the same pod. Obama is the Paris Hilton of politics, and Edwards is
the Nicole Ritchie. They're 2 people who are famous for being famous,
with no other accomplishments to their credit.
Gee, since when do accomplishments have anything to do with becoming
president?
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| User: "theothr1" |
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18 Jan 2007 09:07:48 AM |
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"CyßerHoG®" > wrote ...
: "Fester" wrote
: > "sam7i5erotdkhgcx" wrote
: >> Barack Obama
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: >> Is a good speaker. Is a very handsome man.Has nice teeth.: >
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: Gee, since when do accomplishments have anything to do with becoming
: president?
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Please don't let the superficial star qualities stand in your way!
http://tinyurl.com/37fs7
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| User: "volkfolk" |
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18 Jan 2007 12:42:42 PM |
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"sam7i5erotdkhgcx" <dumpdrop@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us
Talk about drinking your own kool aid
You're a cross posting nitwit, why should anyone take anything that you post
or believe seriously?
Scot
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| User: "Michel Catudal" |
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30 Jan 2007 07:34:30 PM |
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Le Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:16:12 -0800, sam7i5erotdkhgcx a écrit :
This has nothing to do with him being black.
He is also white. He's an American mutt like most of us.
Barack Obama is unfit to be President.
Moron! Barack Obama would make a fantastic president. I think John Edwards
would be better. If he is nominated I will vote for him as president.
--
John Edwards for President
http://johnedwards.com/
http://home.comcast.net/~mcatudal
We are the Cybernetic Entomology Experts
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| User: "" |
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25 Jan 2007 08:54:29 AM |
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On Jan 18, 12:16 am, "sam7i5erotdkhgcx" <dumpd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us/2007/01/barack-obama-not-snow-ball-chan...
Barack Obama
Is a good speaker. Is a very handsome man.Has nice teeth. I know this
because he is always smiling like an idiot. Maybe and this is a big
maybe. He might be a good choice for vice president. But not President.
If Barack Obama thinks he can run for President and win. Barack Obama
must be drinking his own kool aid.
The media loves Barack Obama. Barack Obama is a rock star in the
Democratic party. Why? I have no idea. He has not done anything as
Senator. He has not done anything with his life. He is just another
politician. Good looks, and nice teeth, does not a president make.
Keep telling that to the frivolous Americans and to the Demo-Craps
always looking for holywood style. We in the conservative party,
we knew this before, that
is why we chose wisdom and not how the man looks.
I think a lot of people want him to be ( the guy). I think a lot of
people look at him, and see what they want to see.
I can not look at Barack Obama and say this is the guy. This is the guy
that will change things. This is the guy that will get the job done.
This is the guy that will help build a better future for us all. I just
can't say that. No one can. I all see is just another sweet talking
politician. I see the same thing when i look at John Edwards.
This has nothing to do with him being black.
There will of course be some people who will not vote for him because
he is black.
There will be some people who will vote for him only because he is
black.
Some people will vote for him because opera winfrey likes him.
But I think most people don't give a dam what color he is.
Barack Obama is unfit to be President. I don't like Condoleezza Rice.
But she is more fit to be President.
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us/2007/01/barack-obama-not-snow-ball-chan...
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| User: "MarkA" |
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18 Jan 2007 07:56:58 AM |
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On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:16:12 -0800, sam7i5erotdkhgcx wrote:
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us/2007/01/barack-obama-not-snow-ball-chance-in.html
Barack Obama
Is a good speaker. Is a very handsome man.Has nice teeth. I know this
because he is always smiling like an idiot. Maybe and this is a big maybe.
He might be a good choice for vice president. But not President. If Barack
Obama thinks he can run for President and win. Barack Obama must be
drinking his own kool aid.
The media loves Barack Obama. Barack Obama is a rock star in the
Democratic party. Why? I have no idea. He has not done anything as
Senator. He has not done anything with his life.
Like GW Bush's accomplishments: run several oil companies into the ground,
dodge the draft, and have daddy's powerful friends set you up in a career
in politics?
He is just another
politician. Good looks, and nice teeth, does not a president make.
Ever hear of Ronald Reagan?
I think a lot of people want him to be ( the guy). I think a lot of people
look at him, and see what they want to see.
That's true of most everyone.
I can not look at Barack Obama and say this is the guy. This is the guy
that will change things. This is the guy that will get the job done. This
is the guy that will help build a better future for us all. I just can't
say that. No one can. I all see is just another sweet talking politician.
I see the same thing when i look at John Edwards.
This has nothing to do with him being black. There will of course be some
people who will not vote for him because he is black.
There will be some people who will vote for him only because he is black.
Some people will vote for him because opera winfrey likes him. But I
think most people don't give a dam what color he is.
Barack Obama is unfit to be President. I don't like Condoleezza Rice. But
she is more fit to be President.
Because she can lie with a straight face?
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us/2007/01/barack-obama-not-snow-ball-chance-in.html
Sam Harris hit the nail on the head: to be a doctor, lawyer, civil
engineer, even a barber, you have to pass a licensing exam to demonstrate
that you know something about the field in which you are going to
practice. To be President of the US, all you need is to be good at
raising money, and look good on TV.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Fred G. Mackey" |
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19 Jan 2007 10:48:46 PM |
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sam7i5erotdkhgcx wrote:
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us/2007/01/barack-obama-not-snow-ball-chance-in.html
Barack Obama
I didn't find anything of substance in your article, but that is par for
the course when talking about Obama. Other than him being a Democrat, I
have no clue as to where he stands on the issues.
A while back, I remember seeing on Fox News that he admitted to using
cocaine in a book he wrote. I couldn't hear what they were saying
because it was in a crowded restaurant that had Fox News on one of their
TVs, but from the text they put at the bottom of the screen I gathered
they were asking whether this should disqualify him from being president.
After that, I heard some crazy radio personality (I honestly don't
remember who, but it could have been NPR, Air America or a Fox
affiliate) going on about how Kennedy called him Osama, CNN accidentally
(allegedly anyway) put the words "Where's Obama?" up while showing a
picture of Osama Bin Laden and his middle name is Hussein. Oh, and also
that Barack rhymes with Iraq.
Then today, I walked passed a TV and paused because Fox News had the
headline up that Hillary Clinton "outed" Barack Obama. I paused for a
moment to see what they were talking about. I only got the short FNC
soundbyte version of the story, but apparently, Clinton's office leaked
something about Obama being raised Muslim as a child.
My reaction to all three "stories" is WHO FUCKING CARES???
To put it succinctly, I don't care if Obama tried cocaine a couple of
times, I don't care if his name can be twisted into childish names or
that he shares his middle name with a brutal former dictator of Iraq,
especially since Hussein is a common name and I sure as hell don't care
if he was raised Muslim. I wouldn't care if he were still a practicing
Muslim.
None of this ***** is relevant. It just doesn't fucking matter.
What does he believe we should do about the minimum wage, illegal
immigration, the Iraq "war", homeland security, etc...?
We are in sad shape when major news media tries to make an issue of
whether or not a politician has ever set foot in a mosque (or a
synagogue or a church) or has ever prayed in the direction of Mecca (or
been circumcised or ever taken part in communion).
Given all this crap the "news" media has been reporting about Barack
Obama, I wouldn't at all be surprised to hear that he also masturbated
when he was a teenager. (Oh no, he's an EVIL man for doing that!)
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| User: "JC Martin" |
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20 Jan 2007 09:07:41 AM |
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Fred G. Mackey wrote:
sam7i5erotdkhgcx wrote:
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us/2007/01/barack-obama-not-snow-ball-chance-in.html
Barack Obama
I didn't find anything of substance in your article, but that is par for
the course when talking about Obama. Other than him being a Democrat, I
have no clue as to where he stands on the issues.
A while back, I remember seeing on Fox News that he admitted to using
cocaine in a book he wrote. I couldn't hear what they were saying
because it was in a crowded restaurant that had Fox News on one of their
TVs, but from the text they put at the bottom of the screen I gathered
they were asking whether this should disqualify him from being president.
After that, I heard some crazy radio personality (I honestly don't
remember who, but it could have been NPR, Air America or a Fox
affiliate) going on about how Kennedy called him Osama, CNN accidentally
(allegedly anyway) put the words "Where's Obama?" up while showing a
picture of Osama Bin Laden and his middle name is Hussein. Oh, and also
that Barack rhymes with Iraq.
Then today, I walked passed a TV and paused because Fox News had the
headline up that Hillary Clinton "outed" Barack Obama. I paused for a
moment to see what they were talking about. I only got the short FNC
soundbyte version of the story, but apparently, Clinton's office leaked
something about Obama being raised Muslim as a child.
My reaction to all three "stories" is WHO FUCKING CARES???
To put it succinctly, I don't care if Obama tried cocaine a couple of
times, I don't care if his name can be twisted into childish names or
that he shares his middle name with a brutal former dictator of Iraq,
especially since Hussein is a common name and I sure as hell don't care
if he was raised Muslim. I wouldn't care if he were still a practicing
Muslim.
None of this ***** is relevant. It just doesn't fucking matter.
But it IS relevant to a large percentage of voters whether you like it
or not, which is why it's an issue in the political realm. Race, drug
use, the Muslim name, etc. all can influence a voter's preference.
Everyone has a cultural bias and in politics and even marketing for that
matter certain areas or cultural groups are targeted in order to sell
whatever product one is putting forth. Obama's product is nicely
crafted. His message is that of a new generation that doesn't see the
same divides that the baby boom generation saw. Now, I'm not so sure
he's correct about that, but it's an interesting angle nonetheless.
Personally, I'm with you though. I'd love to see where Obama stands on
the issues outside of his feel-good message. He better be a visionary,
because his race, cultural background and personal history are going to
be huge factors in this political season, again, whether we like it or
not. That's just plain human nature doin' it's thang.
-JC
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| User: "nibbler" |
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21 Jan 2007 03:53:36 AM |
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America is backwards:
here are some examples
We Allow illegal to be deported after committing some crimes, Americans go
to jail
Illegal get free medicine, patriotic Senior citizens that don't choose a
Medicare plan for prescriptions forfeit benefits.
We buy Chinese products giving them billions, China builds lethal kill
weapons for war with America
Obama Bin Laden will be elected president.
"JC Martin" <jcmartin@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Fred G. Mackey wrote:
sam7i5erotdkhgcx wrote:
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us
http://novus-ordo-seclorum.us/2007/01/barack-obama-not-snow-ball-chance-in.html
Barack Obama
I didn't find anything of substance in your article, but that is par for
the course when talking about Obama. Other than him being a Democrat, I
have no clue as to where he stands on the issues.
A while back, I remember seeing on Fox News that he admitted to using
cocaine in a book he wrote. I couldn't hear what they were saying
because it was in a crowded restaurant that had Fox News on one of their
TVs, but from the text they put at the bottom of the screen I gathered
they were asking whether this should disqualify him from being president.
After that, I heard some crazy radio personality (I honestly don't
remember who, but it could have been NPR, Air America or a Fox affiliate)
going on about how Kennedy called him Osama, CNN accidentally (allegedly
anyway) put the words "Where's Obama?" up while showing a picture of
Osama Bin Laden and his middle name is Hussein. Oh, and also that Barack
rhymes with Iraq.
Then today, I walked passed a TV and paused because Fox News had the
headline up that Hillary Clinton "outed" Barack Obama. I paused for a
moment to see what they were talking about. I only got the short FNC
soundbyte version of the story, but apparently, Clinton's office leaked
something about Obama being raised Muslim as a child.
My reaction to all three "stories" is WHO FUCKING CARES???
To put it succinctly, I don't care if Obama tried cocaine a couple of
times, I don't care if his name can be twisted into childish names or
that he shares his middle name with a brutal former dictator of Iraq,
especially since Hussein is a common name and I sure as hell don't care
if he was raised Muslim. I wouldn't care if he were still a practicing
Muslim.
None of this ***** is relevant. It just doesn't fucking matter.
But it IS relevant to a large percentage of voters whether you like it or
not, which is why it's an issue in the political realm. Race, drug use,
the Muslim name, etc. all can influence a voter's preference. Everyone has
a cultural bias and in politics and even marketing for that matter certain
areas or cultural groups are targeted in order to sell whatever product
one is putting forth. Obama's product is nicely crafted. His message is
that of a new generation that doesn't see the same divides that the baby
boom generation saw. Now, I'm not so sure he's correct about that, but
it's an interesting angle nonetheless. Personally, I'm with you though.
I'd love to see where Obama stands on the issues outside of his feel-good
message. He better be a visionary, because his race, cultural background
and personal history are going to be huge factors in this political
season, again, whether we like it or not. That's just plain human nature
doin' it's thang.
-JC
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| User: "655321" |
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25 Jan 2007 02:55:10 AM |
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In article <12rd6hso45si9d4@corp.supernews.com>,
"nibbler" <rnibbler@gmail.net> wrote:
America is backwards:
here are some examples
We Allow illegal to be deported after committing some crimes, Americans go
to jail
Illegal get free medicine, patriotic Senior citizens that don't choose a
Medicare plan for prescriptions forfeit benefits.
We buy Chinese products giving them billions, China builds lethal kill
weapons for war with America
Obama Bin Laden will be elected president.
Okay, who taught cartoon characters to post on Usenet?
--
655321
"We are heroes in error" -- Ahmad Chalabi
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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27 Jan 2007 01:00:54 PM |
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On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 00:55:10 -0800, 655321
<DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote:
In article <12rd6hso45si9d4@corp.supernews.com>,
"nibbler" <rnibbler@gmail.net> wrote:
America is backwards:
here are some examples
We Allow illegal to be deported after committing some crimes, Americans go
to jail
Illegal get free medicine, patriotic Senior citizens that don't choose a
Medicare plan for prescriptions forfeit benefits.
We buy Chinese products giving them billions, China builds lethal kill
weapons for war with America
Obama Bin Laden will be elected president.
Okay, who taught cartoon characters to post on Usenet?
At least teach them to speak English if they're going to pretend to be
American.
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| User: "Pepe Papon" |
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20 Jan 2007 04:31:36 PM |
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On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 21:48:46 -0700, "Fred G. Mackey"
<nospam@dont.spam> wrote:
To put it succinctly, I don't care if Obama tried cocaine a couple of
times, I don't care if his name can be twisted into childish names or
that he shares his middle name with a brutal former dictator of Iraq,
especially since Hussein is a common name and I sure as hell don't care
if he was raised Muslim. I wouldn't care if he were still a practicing
Muslim.
None of this ***** is relevant. It just doesn't fucking matter.
You mean it *shouldn't* matter. But, unfortunately, it matters in the
category known as "electability". There are lots and lots of people
out there who will vote based on silliness like "he seems like he'd be
a good guy to have a beer with" rather than on how good a grasp he has
on issues.
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~ Seth Jackson
MySpace URL - http://www.myspace.com/sethjacksonsong
Songwriting and Music Business Info: http://www.sethjackson.net
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| User: "theothr1" |
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21 Jan 2007 11:18:48 AM |
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"Pepe Papon" wrote :
: You mean it *shouldn't* matter. But, unfortunately, it matters in the
: category known as "electability". There are lots and lots of people
: out there who will vote based on silliness like "he seems like he'd be
: a good guy to have a beer with" rather than on how good a grasp he has
: on issues.
: --
A prime example of this was when
Timothy M. Kaine (D), then Virginia's newly elected governor
gave the rebuttal last year to Bush's State of the Union.
No one heard him because they were preoccupied with
his facial tic! It some how discredited what he
was saying.
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| User: "JP" |
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24 Jan 2007 12:10:05 PM |
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"theothr1" <theothr1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:YfNsh.25054$sR.17406@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
"Pepe Papon" wrote :
: You mean it *shouldn't* matter. But, unfortunately, it matters in the
: category known as "electability". There are lots and lots of people
: out there who will vote based on silliness like "he seems like he'd be
: a good guy to have a beer with" rather than on how good a grasp he has
: on issues.
: --
A prime example of this was when
Timothy M. Kaine (D), then Virginia's newly elected governor
gave the rebuttal last year to Bush's State of the Union.
No one heard him because they were preoccupied with
his facial tic! It some how discredited what he
was saying.
What kind of name is Barack Obama? Is that Muslim? Hope not. Just what we
need running for prez...a black muslim. Guess the dems call it diversity.
JP
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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24 Jan 2007 12:22:10 PM |
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In article <1iNth.2674$2n.2063@trndny06> "JP" <john5240@verizon.net> writes:
"theothr1" <theothr1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:YfNsh.25054$sR.17406@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
"Pepe Papon" wrote :
: You mean it *shouldn't* matter. But, unfortunately, it matters in the
: category known as "electability". There are lots and lots of people
: out there who will vote based on silliness like "he seems like he'd be
: a good guy to have a beer with" rather than on how good a grasp he has
: on issues.
: --
A prime example of this was when
Timothy M. Kaine (D), then Virginia's newly elected governor
gave the rebuttal last year to Bush's State of the Union.
No one heard him because they were preoccupied with
his facial tic! It some how discredited what he
was saying.
What kind of name is Barack Obama? Is that Muslim? Hope not. Just what we
need running for prez...a black muslim. Guess the dems call it diversity.
There are Black Muslims, and then there are American Muslims who
are black.
Obama, as if the latter would be at all important, is neither.
He's named after his father. You know, family values and all
like that.
-- cary
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| User: "gwatts" |
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24 Jan 2007 12:29:30 PM |
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JP wrote:
....
What kind of name is Barack Obama? Is that Muslim? Hope not. Just what we
need running for prez...a black muslim. Guess the dems call it diversity.
JP
He's a Christian, you dipshit bigot.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama
'I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity United Church of
Christ one day and be baptized. It came about as a choice and not an
epiphany; the questions I had did not magically disappear. But kneeling
beneath that cross on the South Side of Chicago, I felt God's spirit
beckoning me. I submitted myself to His will, and dedicated myself to
discovering His truth.'
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| User: "JP" |
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24 Jan 2007 05:50:57 PM |
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"gwatts" <gwatts@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:eANth.1272$ya1.665@news02.roc.ny...
JP wrote:
...
What kind of name is Barack Obama? Is that Muslim? Hope not. Just what
we
need running for prez...a black muslim. Guess the dems call it
diversity.
JP
He's a Christian, you dipshit bigot.
snipped.......................................
Well, Obama doesn't really sound christian, you fucking liberal *****. How
was I to know? I guess if he was named Osama, that too would be ok.
***** moron and keep your political ***** over in another Ng where it
belongs.
I don't want to read about that dipshit clinton either.
JP
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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24 Jan 2007 05:59:50 PM |
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In article "JP" <john5240@verizon.net> writes:
"gwatts" <gwatts@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:eANth.1272$ya1.665@news02.roc.ny...
JP wrote:
...
What kind of name is Barack Obama? Is that Muslim? Hope not. Just what
we
need running for prez...a black muslim. Guess the dems call it
diversity.
JP
He's a Christian, you dipshit bigot.
snipped.......................................
Well, Obama doesn't really sound christian, you fucking liberal *****.
"Doesn't really sound christian"?
It's an African name. And as there are well over three hundred
million Christians in Africa, how does it not "sound christian"?
-- cary
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| User: "Jeff" |
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24 Jan 2007 05:57:04 PM |
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JP wrote the following on 01/24/07 16:50:
dipshit Clinton
WIIAAHSWYP?
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| User: "gwatts" |
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24 Jan 2007 06:00:07 PM |
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JP wrote:
"gwatts" <gwatts@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:eANth.1272$ya1.665@news02.roc.ny...
JP wrote:
...
What kind of name is Barack Obama? Is that Muslim? Hope not. Just what
we
need running for prez...a black muslim. Guess the dems call it
diversity.
JP
He's a Christian, you dipshit bigot.
snipped.......................................
Well, Obama doesn't really sound christian, you fucking liberal *****. How
was I to know? I guess if he was named Osama, that too would be ok.
***** moron and keep your political ***** over in another Ng where it
belongs.
It took me about a minute to find out that Obama was a Christian. If
you'd do your homework and not cross post maybe you wouldn't look like
such an ignoramus, *****.
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| User: "Ray" |
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24 Jan 2007 06:16:17 PM |
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On Jan 24, 3:50 pm, "JP" <john5...@verizon.net> wrote:
"gwatts" <gwa...@frontiernet.net> wrote in messagenews:eANth.1272$ya1.665@news02.roc.ny...> JP wrote:
...
What kind of name is Barack Obama? Is that Muslim? Hope not. Just what
we
need running for prez...a black muslim. Guess the dems call it
diversity.
JP
He's a Christian, you dipshit bigot.
Well, Obama doesn't really sound christian, you fucking liberal *****. How
was I to know?
Don't they have Google in your neck of the woods/internet?
I guess if he was named Osama, that too would be ok.
His middle name is Hussain - and only an idiot would have that
influence their vote.
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| User: "Andrew F. Heil" |
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24 Jan 2007 06:31:15 PM |
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On Jan 24, 5:50 pm, "JP" <john5...@verizon.net> wrote:
"gwatts" <gwa...@frontiernet.net> wrote in messagenews:eANth.1272$ya1.665@news02.roc.ny...> JP wrote:
What kind of name is Barack Obama? Is that Muslim? Hope not. Just what
we
need running for prez...a black muslim. Guess the dems call it
diversity.
JP
He's a Christian, you dipshit bigot.snipped.......................................
Well, Obama doesn't really sound christian, you fucking liberal *****.
How was I to know? I guess if he was named Osama, that too would be ok.
Yes. Adolf, too. And Mao.
Really, the notion that someone's first name makes them an unacceptable
candidate is mind-bogglingly idiotic.
Happily, your average soldier from Ft. Bragg isn't as juvenile and
pathetic as you:
http://www.caller2.com/2001/september/30/today/national/13145.html
"SPRING LAKE, N.C. - Ghassan Mustafa felt awkward at first about flying
an American flag outside his tiny cafe following the terrorist
attacks."
"It wasn't that he had a problem showing support for his adopted
country. He just thought it looked strange flying next to the name of
his restaurant - Osama's Place."
"But the Jordanian decided his love for America outweighed any
embarrassing feelings over an unfortunate coincidence."
" "I'm an Arab Muslim and I love this country and I will raise the flag
proudly," Mustafa told himself."
"Business at the cafe, named after previous owner Osama Yousef, has
remained steady, with regulars from nearby Fort Bragg filing in for
burgers and shakes."
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| User: "Pepe Papon" |
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25 Jan 2007 02:17:37 AM |
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:50:57 GMT, "JP" <john5240@verizon.net> wrote:
Well, Obama doesn't really sound christian, you fucking liberal *****. How
was I to know? I guess if he was named Osama, that too would be ok.
As you suggest, the sound of the candidate's name is of utmost
importance in assessing his ability to run the nation. The
consequences of electing a President whose name doesn't sound
Christian are unimaginable.
--
~ Seth Jackson
MySpace URL - http://www.myspace.com/sethjacksonsong
Songwriting and Music Business Info: http://www.sethjackson.net
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| User: "•R L Measures" |
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25 Jan 2007 08:25:23 AM |
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In article <cppgr29j7p9hkibf6n0g1r0ot3q5212ou3@4ax.com>, hitmeister .at.
mindspring .dot. com wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:50:57 GMT, "JP" <john5240@verizon.net> wrote:
Well, Obama doesn't really sound christian, you fucking liberal *****. How
was I to know? I guess if he was named Osama, that too would be ok.
As you suggest, the sound of the candidate's name is of utmost
importance in assessing his ability to run the nation. The
consequences of electing a President whose name doesn't sound
Christian are unimaginable.
• "Bush and Quayle" sounds more like the title of a porn flick than Christian.
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| User: "Ray" |
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25 Jan 2007 12:41:45 PM |
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On Jan 25, 12:17 am, Pepe Papon <a...@mindspring.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 23:50:57 GMT, "JP" <john5...@verizon.net> wrote:
Well, Obama doesn't really sound christian, you fucking liberal *****. How
was I to know? I guess if he was named Osama, that too would be ok.
As you suggest, the sound of the candidate's name is of utmost
importance in assessing his ability to run the nation. The
consequences of electing a President whose name doesn't sound
Christian are unimaginable.
So true... and the consequences of electing a President who isn't a
Christian are even more unimaginable.
"The truth is that the greatest enemies to the doctrines of Jesus are
those calling themselves the expositors of them, who have perverted
them for the structure of a system of fancy absolutely
incomprehensible, and without any foundation in his genuine words. And
the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme
being as his father in the womb of a Virgin Mary, will be classed with
the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."
-- Thomas Jefferson
"Had you [Thomas Jefferson] and I been forty days with Moses on Mount
Sinai and admitted to behold, the divine Shekinah, and there told that
one was three and three, one: We might not have had courage to deny it,
but we could not have believed it. The thunders and lightnings and
earthquakes and the transcendent splendors and glories might have
overwhelmed us with terror and amazement, but we could not have
believed the doctrine."
-- John Adams
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for
every noble enterprise, every expanded prospect."
-- James Madison
"We have abundant reason to rejoice that in this Land the light of
truth and reason has triumphed over the power of bigotry and
superstition, and that every person may here worship God according to
the dictates of his own heart. In the enlightened Age and in this Land
of equal liberty it is our boast, that a man's religious tenets will
not forfeit the protection of the Laws, nor deprive him of the right of
attaining and holding the highest Offices that are known in the United
States."
-- George Washington
"[T]he Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense,
founded on the Christian religion."
-- Article 11 of The Treaty of Peace and Friendship with Tripoli, ,
signed near the end George Washington's second term on November 4,
1796, ratified by unanimous vote by the U.S. Senate on June 7, 1797 and
signed into law by then-President John Adams on June 10, 1797
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| User: "theothr1" |
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25 Jan 2007 01:06:11 PM |
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"Ray" wrote ..
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: "[T]he Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense,
: founded on the Christian religion."
: -- Article 11 of The Treaty of Peace and Friendship with Tripoli, ,
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Is now!
My peeps in Ohio BELIEVES this is a holy calling!
They voted for W twice because he's got bigger vision.
(Jesus save me from your followers!)
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