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"J Young" |
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07 Feb 2005 11:21:29 PM |
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Barring Gays From Adopting Not Homophobic Lawmaker Says |
This is the one point that liberals just don't seem to get; it's not
about the parents. The best interest of the child always comes first.
To place a child in an awkward situation like that is cruel. Good
parents or not, the child will be open to ridicule amongst their peers.
http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/02/020305arkFoster.htm
Barring Gays From Adopting Not Homophobic Lawmaker Says
Posted: February 3, 2005 5:01 pm. ET
(Little Rock Arkansas) Rep. Bob Adams (D-Sheridan) says that his bill
to ban the state from placing children in "homosexual homes" isn't
meant to discriminate against gays.
"Some people think this bill is an anti-gay bill; it is not," Adams
told a House committee meeting today. "It is not about the gay
population. It's about the children."
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08 Feb 2005 09:49:35 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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This is the one point that liberals just don't seem to get; it's not
about the parents. The best interest of the child always comes first.
To place a child in an awkward situation like that is cruel. Good
parents or not, the child will be open to ridicule amongst their peers.
Oh, please. You're a known bigot and homophobe, IBen. Your opinion is as
worthless as your sockpuppeting.
Of course, when it suits your trolls, your schitzophrenia allows you to
espouse other viewpoints:
"isn't it also strange that the ones most vocal in their
opposition to a gay life-style almost always inevitably turn out to be
closet cases themselves. a true person of God should be spending more
time leading a good, decent life instead of thinking[ or perhaps
fantasizing ] about what two gay men are doing in their bedrooms.
you'll notice they rarely have a problem with lesbians."
From: (Jon Young)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian
Subject: a thought to ponder
Date: 13 Oct 2003 08:12:58 -0700
Message-ID: <567f3dc3.0310130712.bf31ff9@posting.google.com>
So, which is it?
<snip>
LC~ "It's about the children"...yeah, right.
"My KIDS were raised with MORALS and STANDARDS. They were taught to
hate queers and other inferiors at an early age. So now, there's NO
hang-ups in those areas!"~ "JYoung/IBenGetiner", on child raising.
Message-ID: <396a5984.0404280056.615452c0@posting.google.com>
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08 Feb 2005 12:01:03 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
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This is the one point that liberals just don't seem to get; it's not
about the parents. The best interest of the child always comes first.
To place a child in an awkward situation like that is cruel. Good
parents or not, the child will be open to ridicule amongst their peers.
That's nothing more than a lame, insane and fraudulent excuse!
The SAME thing was said about, and even happened to, mainstreamed
handicapped kids............ children from interracial marriages, overly
tall children, overly short children, overly endowed young girls, black kids
in white schools, whiite kids in black schools, etc. etc. and, yes, even
kids who were just POOR.
While the conservatives FIGHT ANY "liberal" "agenda" to make RESPECT and
TOLERANCE taught to youngsters, you use this HATRED and bullying as a
ridiculous excuse to deny homosexuals from adopting!
It's more likely homosexual parents will be BETTER at teaching their kids
how to be HUMAN and humane towards others as compared to the right wing
conservatives, who appear to support the tyranny of bullying and ridicule
more than they support love and compassion!
http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/02/020305arkFoster.htm
Barring Gays From Adopting Not Homophobic Lawmaker Says
A homophobe says it's not homophobic!
Posted: February 3, 2005 5:01 pm. ET
(Little Rock Arkansas) Rep. Bob Adams (D-Sheridan) says that his bill
to ban the state from placing children in "homosexual homes" isn't
meant to discriminate against gays.
Sure .. and Hitlers first laws weren't "anti-Jewish" either!!
"Some people think this bill is an anti-gay bill; it is not," Adams
told a House committee meeting today. "It is not about the gay
population. It's about the children."
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08 Feb 2005 01:00:26 AM |
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 01:01:03 -0500, "ZenIsWhen"
<here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote:
It's more likely homosexual parents will be BETTER at teaching their kids
how to be HUMAN and humane towards others as compared to the right wing
conservatives, who appear to support
Of course homosexuals would teach the children that any one who
doesn't support the homosexual agenda is supporting "use..HATRED and
bullying as a ridiculous excuse to deny homosexuals from adopting."
"...the tyranny of bullying and ridicule more than they support love
and compassion!"
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08 Feb 2005 04:02:06 AM |
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 01:01:03 -0500, "ZenIsWhen"
<here'slooking@youkid.com> wrote:
It's more likely homosexual parents will be BETTER at teaching their kids
how to be HUMAN and humane towards others as compared to the right wing
conservatives, who appear to support
Of course homosexuals would teach the children that any one who
doesn't support the homosexual agenda is supporting "use..HATRED and
bullying as a ridiculous excuse to deny homosexuals from adopting."
Considering that the "homosexual agenda" is "everyone having equal rights"
they will be correct, too.
Susan
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08 Feb 2005 09:16:25 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in news:1107840089.185228.318350
@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
This is the one point that liberals just don't seem to get; it's not
about the parents. The best interest of the child always comes first.
To place a child in an awkward situation like that is cruel. Good
parents or not, the child will be open to ridicule amongst their peers.
I have a student in my eighth grade class RIGHT NOW who is being raised by
her lesbian parents. She is an outstanding student, bright, popular.
Never heard any ridicule. Same with her big sister. The kids around her
grew up with her, and they don't have a problem.
So I guess you're just an ignorant bigot, then.
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Enkidu AA# 2165
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
Attributed to Epicurus 341-270 B.C.E.
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08 Feb 2005 05:30:15 PM |
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From the bigots' premise, one can conclude that Gay parents will raise =
heterosexual children -- Since it is a fact that Heterosexual parents =
bring up homosexual children!
"Enkidu" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message =
news:Xns95F74A076C874255229@130.133.1.4...
: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in =
news:1107840089.185228.318350
: @c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
:=20
: > This is the one point that liberals just don't seem to get; it's not
: > about the parents. The best interest of the child always comes =
first.
: > To place a child in an awkward situation like that is cruel. Good
: > parents or not, the child will be open to ridicule amongst their =
peers.
:=20
: I have a student in my eighth grade class RIGHT NOW who is being =
raised by=20
: her lesbian parents. She is an outstanding student, bright, popular. =
: Never heard any ridicule. Same with her big sister. The kids around =
her=20
: grew up with her, and they don't have a problem.
:=20
: So I guess you're just an ignorant bigot, then.
:=20
: --=20
: Enkidu AA# 2165
: Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
: Then he is not omnipotent.
: Is he able, but not willing?
: Then he is malevolent.
: Is he both able and willing?
: Then where does evil come from?
: Is he neither able nor willing?
: Then why call him God?
: Attributed to Epicurus 341-270 B.C.E.
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08 Feb 2005 05:41:49 PM |
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"Riain" <riain@riain.com> wrote in message
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From the bigots' premise,
You mean your premise.
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| User: "Riain Y. Barton" |
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10 Feb 2005 05:50:02 PM |
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BLOW IT OUT YOUR *****, *****.
Sir Marksman wrote:
"Riain" <riain@riain.com> wrote in message
news:kKudnVOd9rgB15TfRVn-rA@comcast.com...
From the bigots' premise,
You mean your premise.
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10 Feb 2005 05:54:39 PM |
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"Riain Y. Barton" <rfarton@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1108079402.208128.184140@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
BLOW IT OUT YOUR *****, *****.
Classic invective, as expected from one who lacks a logical argument.
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11 Feb 2005 12:19:26 AM |
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"Sir Marksman" <895@54545465465454654.com> wrote in news:3vSOd.5406
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"Riain Y. Barton" <rfarton@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1108079402.208128.184140@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
BLOW IT OUT YOUR *****, *****.
Classic invective, as expected from one who lacks a logical argument.
Take a clue from the fact that you have to keep changing your from
address to hop out of killfiles. You're a worthless twat. We know it
and you know it, so BLOW IT OUT YOUR *****, *****.
--
Enkidu AA# 2165
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
Attributed to Epicurus 341-270 B.C.E.
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11 Feb 2005 12:10:53 AM |
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NOTE THAT THIS IS NOT A MESSAGE FROM R=CDAIN Y. BARTON!!!!=20
THIS IS A FORGERY DONE BY GORDON RADAVICH A SERBIAN CRIMINAL IN LONDON!
Yes, all of your forgeries GORDON, you Serbian filthy criminal=20
paedophile!
ATTN: Anyone living in Battersea LONDON, mind your passports and your=20
children, ye have a theft and a paedophile living in your area -- His=20
name is Gordon Radavitch! He also goes by "The Rev'd" on Usenet.
THIS IS THE FORGED ID: "Riain Y. Barton" <rfarton@gmail.com>
THIS IS MY ID: "Riain" <riain@riain.com> I will never have a gmail=20
account!
http://www.anglican.org/nutjob.html
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Arrest made in Tiscali case
As reported by the Wandsworth Borough News:
"Police have arrested a Serbian national following a lengthy
investigation into anti-semitic activities. Gordon Radavich, 51, a
satellite system installer, was arrested at his home in Albert Bridge
Road, Battersea, and charged with various offences under the Public
Order Act (1986) and Computer Misuse Act (1990). Several computers
and a number of foreign passports were removed from the premises for
forensic examination. After a preliminary hearing before Wandsworth
magistrates yesterday he was remanded in custody until 16th August."
He is known on Usenet as:
The "Reverend" Terrence Fformby Smythe
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"Riain Y. Barton" <rfarton@gmail.com> wrote in message =
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: BLOW IT OUT YOUR *****, *****.
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: Sir Marksman wrote:
: > "Riain" <riain@riain.com> wrote in message
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: > From the bigots' premise,
: >=20
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08 Feb 2005 07:51:48 AM |
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In article <1107840089.185228.318350@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "J
Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
-This is the one point that liberals just don't seem to get; it's not
-about the parents. The best interest of the child always comes first.
-To place a child in an awkward situation like that is cruel. Good
-parents or not, the child will be open to ridicule amongst their peers.
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Children with "parents" who are not of their race are "open to ridicule
amongst their peers."
So you are opposed to inter-racial adoption as well?
And children wih handicaps are "open to ridicule amongst their peers." so
perhaps you are favbor of killing those kids at birth, since they pi;d be
"open to ridicule amongst their peers."
Wait.....
Maybe children could be taught to have manners, and to be tolerant of
others.......
Ninure Saunders aka Rainbow Christian
The Lord is my Shepherd and He knows I'm Gay
http://Ninure-Saunders.tk
Take my polls
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To send e-mail, remove nohate from address
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| User: "Sir Marksman" |
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08 Feb 2005 07:56:45 AM |
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"Ninure Saunders" <RainbowChristiannohate@Rainbow-Christian.tk> wrote in
message
news:RainbowChristiannohate-0802050807560001@h-69-3-220-164.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net...
In article <1107840089.185228.318350@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "J
Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
-This is the one point that liberals just don't seem to get; it's not
-about the parents. The best interest of the child always comes first.
-To place a child in an awkward situation like that is cruel. Good
-parents or not, the child will be open to ridicule amongst their peers.
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Children with "parents" who are not of their race are "open to ridicule
amongst their peers."
Off topic.
So you are opposed to inter-racial adoption as well?
Off topic.
And children wih handicaps are "open to ridicule amongst their peers." so
perhaps you are favbor of killing those kids at birth, since they pi;d be
"open to ridicule amongst their peers."
Off topic.
Wait.....
Maybe children could be taught to have manners, and to be tolerant of
others.......
Which can happen only in a normal hetero home.
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08 Feb 2005 09:00:06 AM |
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On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 13:56:45 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <001@012.com> wrote:
"Ninure Saunders" <RainbowChristiannohate@Rainbow-Christian.tk> wrote in
message
news:RainbowChristiannohate-0802050807560001@h-69-3-220-164.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net...
In article <1107840089.185228.318350@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "J
Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
-This is the one point that liberals just don't seem to get; it's not
-about the parents. The best interest of the child always comes first.
-To place a child in an awkward situation like that is cruel. Good
-parents or not, the child will be open to ridicule amongst their peers.
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Children with "parents" who are not of their race are "open to ridicule
amongst their peers."
Off topic.
Then quit crossposting hypocrit.
So you are opposed to inter-racial adoption as well?
Off topic.
And children wih handicaps are "open to ridicule amongst their peers." so
perhaps you are favbor of killing those kids at birth, since they pi;d be
"open to ridicule amongst their peers."
Off topic.
Wait.....
Maybe children could be taught to have manners, and to be tolerant of
others.......
Which can happen only in a normal hetero home.
Wrong again.
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08 Feb 2005 09:02:46 AM |
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"Kate " <cobalt@newscene.com> wrote in message
news:4212d324.168745203@news-west.newscene.com...
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 13:56:45 GMT, "Sir Marksman" <001@012.com> wrote:
"Ninure Saunders" <RainbowChristiannohate@Rainbow-Christian.tk> wrote in
message
news:RainbowChristiannohate-0802050807560001@h-69-3-220-164.chcgilgm.dynamic.covad.net...
In article <1107840089.185228.318350@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "J
Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
-This is the one point that liberals just don't seem to get; it's not
-about the parents. The best interest of the child always comes first.
-To place a child in an awkward situation like that is cruel. Good
-parents or not, the child will be open to ridicule amongst their peers.
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Children with "parents" who are not of their race are "open to ridicule
amongst their peers."
Off topic.
Then quit crossposting hypocrit.
I am replying.
So you are opposed to inter-racial adoption as well?
Off topic.
And children wih handicaps are "open to ridicule amongst their peers."
so
perhaps you are favbor of killing those kids at birth, since they pi;d
be
"open to ridicule amongst their peers."
Off topic.
Wait.....
Maybe children could be taught to have manners, and to be tolerant of
others.......
Which can happen only in a normal hetero home.
Wrong again.
I am sorry if you cannot accept the facts.
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08 Feb 2005 09:28:47 PM |
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Sir Marksman wrote:
"Kate " <cobalt@newscene.com> wrote:
"Sir Marksman" <001@012.com> wrote:
Off topic.
Then quit crossposting hypocrit.
I am replying.
Hate to break it to ya, Kate, but the dear ol' Marksman wouldn't know a
crosspost even if Jesus himself yanked it out of the ground and slammed
it into his gut so hard that he landed in the middle of the Indian Ocean.
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Why is it that heterosexuals blame the homosexuals for homosexuality when the genes and/or environment are predominantly provided by heterosexuals?
-- jstanley@gate.net, 02 Jan 1996
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09 Feb 2005 05:24:13 AM |
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"Dionisio" <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote in message
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Sir Marksman wrote:
"Kate " <cobalt@newscene.com> wrote:
"Sir Marksman" <001@012.com> wrote:
Off topic.
Then quit crossposting hypocrit.
I am replying.
Hate to break it to ya, Kate, but the dear ol' Marksman wouldn't know a
crosspost even if Jesus himself yanked it out of the ground and slammed it
into his gut so hard that he landed in the middle of the Indian Ocean.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
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09 Feb 2005 05:26:57 PM |
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Sir Marksman wrote:
"Dionisio" <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote:
Hate to break it to ya, Kate, but the dear ol' Marksman wouldn't know a
crosspost even if Jesus himself yanked it out of the ground and slammed it
into his gut so hard that he landed in the middle of the Indian Ocean.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
<yawn>
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Why is it that heterosexuals blame the homosexuals for homosexuality when the genes and/or environment are predominantly provided by heterosexuals?
-- jstanley@gate.net, 02 Jan 1996
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09 Feb 2005 05:45:43 PM |
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"Dionisio" <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote in message
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Sir Marksman wrote:
"Dionisio" <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote:
Hate to break it to ya, Kate, but the dear ol' Marksman wouldn't know a
crosspost even if Jesus himself yanked it out of the ground and slammed
it into his gut so hard that he landed in the middle of the Indian Ocean.
Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim.
<yawn>
Thanks for proving me correct again.
Cheers!
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09 Feb 2005 06:40:03 PM |
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Sir Marksman wrote:
"Dionisio" <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote:
<yawn>
Thanks for proving me correct again.
You were correct? You're boring? Hmm... Who knew?
--
Why is it that heterosexuals blame the homosexuals for homosexuality when the genes and/or environment are predominantly provided by heterosexuals?
-- jstanley@gate.net, 02 Jan 1996
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09 Feb 2005 07:02:18 PM |
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"Dionisio" <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote in message
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Sir Marksman wrote:
"Dionisio" <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote:
<yawn>
Thanks for proving me correct again.
You were correct?
Always.
Cheers!
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09 Feb 2005 10:33:32 PM |
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"Dionisio" <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote in message
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Sir Marksman wrote:
"Dionisio" <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote:
<yawn>
Thanks for proving me correct again.
You were correct? You're boring? Hmm... Who knew?
Everyone who is sick of seeing him evade their killfiles YET AGAIN.
Susan
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Why is it that heterosexuals blame the homosexuals for homosexuality when
the genes and/or environment are predominantly provided by
heterosexuals? -- jstanley@gate.net, 02 Jan 1996
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10 Feb 2005 09:15:13 AM |
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On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 13:51:48 GMT,
RainbowChristiannohate@Rainbow-Christian.tk (Ninure Saunders) wrote:
In article <1107840089.185228.318350@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "J
Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
-This is the one point that liberals just don't seem to get; it's not
-about the parents. The best interest of the child always comes first.
-To place a child in an awkward situation like that is cruel. Good
-parents or not, the child will be open to ridicule amongst their peers.
Children with "parents" who are not of their race are "open to ridicule
amongst their peers."
So you are opposed to inter-racial adoption as well?
And children wih handicaps are "open to ridicule amongst their peers." so
perhaps you are favbor of killing those kids at birth, since they pi;d be
"open to ridicule amongst their peers."
Wait.....
Maybe children could be taught to have manners, and to be tolerant of
others.......
Nah, bigots have to have others to 'look down their noses' at. It
props up their lack of self-esteem.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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08 Feb 2005 08:27:51 AM |
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J Young wrote:
This is the one point that liberals just don't seem to get; it's not
about the parents. The best interest of the child always comes first.
To place a child in an awkward situation like that is cruel. Good
parents or not, the child will be open to ridicule amongst their
peers.
You do realize you're using the *exact same* argument used as recently
as 30 years ago by people trying to keep adoption by mixed-race couples
illegal?
-Pat
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Barring Gays From Adopting Not Homophobic Lawmaker Says |
10 Feb 2005 09:16:04 AM |
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On 8 Feb 2005 06:27:51 -0800, "pluther" <pluther@usa.net> wrote:
J Young wrote:
This is the one point that liberals just don't seem to get; it's not
about the parents. The best interest of the child always comes first.
To place a child in an awkward situation like that is cruel. Good
parents or not, the child will be open to ridicule amongst their
peers.
You do realize you're using the *exact same* argument used as recently
as 30 years ago by people trying to keep adoption by mixed-race couples
illegal?
That would require the moron have;
1) the faintest clue
2) two functioning neurons
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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08 Feb 2005 05:55:33 AM |
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J Young wrote:
This is the one point that liberals just don't seem to get; it's not
about the parents. The best interest of the child always comes first.
To place a child in an awkward situation like that is cruel. Good
parents or not, the child will be open to ridicule amongst their peers.
So, let's see... Where are the bills seeking to prevent placement with
blind parents, or Jewish parents, or Buddhist parents, or opera singing
parents, or military parents...
All that ridicule: "Did your mama dress you today?" "Your father killed
Jesus!" "Yer daddy wears yellow!" "Oh, yeah? Well, my mother doesn't
sport horns on the top of her head!" "Yer momma wears Army boots!"
Oh, and while we're protecting children from their peers, we should
probably investigate not letting politicians have kids. I mean, who
*can't* see "Well, my daddy says your dad's a crook" coming?
Matter of fact: Let's just sterilize anyone that some wise-assed
5-year-old might take umbrage to. Plumbers, farmers, lawyers, botanists,
waiters/waitresses, herpetologists, taxi drivers... Why stop with adoption?
No moral person of values could possibly object, because "the best
interest of the child always comes first."
When it's all over and done with, we'll have a generation of spineless,
conforming, flower-children. Should be interesting to see how long we
remain a superpower when our progeny have mastered the ultimate doomsday
weapon: Crying and blubbering. "Ireland called me a bad word! <sniffle,
sniffle>"
--
Why is it that heterosexuals blame the homosexuals for homosexuality when the genes and/or environment are predominantly provided by heterosexuals?
-- jstanley@gate.net, 02 Jan 1996
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08 Feb 2005 09:21:40 AM |
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Dionisio <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote in news:VM1Od.22590$i42.13991
@fe1.columbus.rr.com:
This is the one point that liberals just don't seem to get; it's not
about the parents. The best interest of the child always comes first.
To place a child in an awkward situation like that is cruel. Good
parents or not, the child will be open to ridicule amongst their peers.
So, let's see... Where are the bills seeking to prevent placement with
blind parents, or Jewish parents, or Buddhist parents, or opera singing
parents, or military parents...
Or worst of all, parents who play the bagpipes? That would drive anyone
insane! (My brother-in-law decided he was Scottish, and took up the
pipes. Give me hell any day over heaven with bagpipes!)
--
Enkidu AA# 2165
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then where does evil come from?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
Attributed to Epicurus 341-270 B.C.E.
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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08 Feb 2005 09:32:35 PM |
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Enkidu wrote:
Give me hell any day over heaven with bagpipes!
Careful what you wish for...
By the by, did you know that accordions are actually bagpipes with pleats?
"Everybody! Polka!!!"
--
Why is it that heterosexuals blame the homosexuals for homosexuality when the genes and/or environment are predominantly provided by heterosexuals?
-- jstanley@gate.net, 02 Jan 1996
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| User: "Riain" |
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| Title: Re: Barring Gays From Adopting Not Homophobic Lawmaker Says |
08 Feb 2005 05:31:08 PM |
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Spice is the variety of life....=20
I happen to love bagpipes, especially the Irish bagpipes.
"Enkidu" <enkidu@leaddogs.org> wrote in message =
news:Xns95F74AEBFD3CF255229@130.133.1.4...
: Dionisio <moc.rr.thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote in =
news:VM1Od.22590$i42.13991
: @fe1.columbus.rr.com:
:=20
: >>This is the one point that liberals just don't seem to get; it's not
: >>about the parents. The best interest of the child always comes =
first.
: >>To place a child in an awkward situation like that is cruel. Good
: >>parents or not, the child will be open to ridicule amongst their =
peers.
: >> =20
: >>
: >=20
: > So, let's see... Where are the bills seeking to prevent placement =
with=20
: > blind parents, or Jewish parents, or Buddhist parents, or opera =
singing=20
: > parents, or military parents...
:=20
: Or worst of all, parents who play the bagpipes? That would drive =
anyone=20
: insane! (My brother-in-law decided he was Scottish, and took up the=20
: pipes. Give me hell any day over heaven with bagpipes!)
:=20
: --=20
: Enkidu AA# 2165
: Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
: Then he is not omnipotent.
: Is he able, but not willing?
: Then he is malevolent.
: Is he both able and willing?
: Then where does evil come from?
: Is he neither able nor willing?
: Then why call him God?
: Attributed to Epicurus 341-270 B.C.E.
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| User: "Sir Marksman" |
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| Title: Re: Barring Gays From Adopting Not Homophobic Lawmaker Says |
08 Feb 2005 05:41:32 PM |
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"Riain" <riain@riain.com> wrote in message
news:oeSdne3ZiKJM15TfRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
Spice is the variety of life....
To a homosexual maybe.
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| User: "Tukla Ratte" |
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| Title: Re: Barring Gays From Adopting Not Homophobic Lawmaker Says |
09 Feb 2005 03:25:32 PM |
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J Young wrote:
This is the one point that liberals just don't seem to get; it's not
about the parents. The best interest of the child always comes first.
To place a child in an awkward situation like that is cruel. Good
parents or not, the child will be open to ridicule amongst their peers.
Mostly the peers raised by people like you.
Besides, kids will be ridiculed over *anything* that's different.
Should parents who are unable to buy the latest $300 clothing fashion be
prevented from adopting?
< snip >
--
Tukla, Eater of Theists, Squeaker of Chew Toys
Official Mascot of Alt.Atheism, aa 1347
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Barring Gays From Adopting Not Homophobic Lawmaker Says |
08 Feb 2005 12:19:48 PM |
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On 7 Feb 2005 21:21:29 -0800, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
drained his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
This is the one point that liberals just don't seem to get; it's not
about the parents. The best interest of the child always comes first.
To place a child in an awkward situation like that is cruel. Good
parents or not, the child will be open to ridicule amongst their peers.
So, I should have been taken from mmy home because I was teased about
my father's British accent?
Over 200 studies dating back 25 years show that being raised by a same
sex couple is not harmful to children.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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