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21 Feb 2006 09:51:31 PM |
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BBC: New Home Abortion Technique Safe |
Pro-rapists' rights Christians like "bam", of course hates something
like this, but I for one believe that rapists should not be allowed to
pass on their genes against their victims' will.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4717786.stm
Study finds home abortion 'safe'
A pilot study into whether women could have abortions at home has
shown early signs of success, it has been reported.
Women less than nine weeks pregnant can safely have the medical
abortion outside hospital, the Department of Health backed project
found.
None of the 172 women, who took tablets supervised by a nurse in a
health centre, suffered serious complications, Nursing Standard
reported.
But anti-abortionists say the process is too traumatic for women.
The pilot could pave the way for women to have abortions at home, in
GP surgeries and in family planning clinics.
In a medical abortion, a woman takes a tablet of the drug mifepristone
under supervision before returning two days later to take four pills
of misoprostol which leads to a termination within a few hours.
The pilot project in southern England represents the first time staff
have offered the service outside a hospital setting.
Its location is not being revealed because of concerns pro-life
protesters may harass nurses.
Shirley Butler, who manages the pilot project, told Nursing Standard:
"This has been a successful pilot and it has proved that abortion is
safe outside a hospital.
"We have had few problems. Some women experienced pain and they were
given painkillers.
Helpline
"One woman had haemorrhaging, but if she had been at home she would
have called our helpline and she would have been given help."
Anne Weyman, chief executive of Family Planning Association, said:
"It's very encouraging that this pilot study has been so successful.
"Medical abortion is a highly safe and effective procedure, and
completing the second stage at home can provide greater comfort and
privacy.
"It also reduces the number of visits needed to a clinic and is
already common practice in a number of countries, including the United
States."
A Department of Health spokeswoman said: "All abortions are currently
carried out in an NHS hospital or an approved independent sector
place.
'Traumatic'
"No changes to the way abortions are carried out will be approved
unless we are content that there is no risk to the women's safety and
we have determined what a 'class of place' should be."
The spokeswoman added that pilots of medical abortions in settings
other than hospitals were on-going.
She added: "These will need to be fully evaluated."
However Julia Millington, of the ProLife Alliance, said: "Abortion, in
any circumstance, is a traumatic experience for a woman.
"But they haven't considered the psychological effects. I can't
imagine anything more traumatic, than for women to go through this
alone at home."
LIFE, the UK's caring charity, is calling upon the Government to not
consider introducing home abortions until a full and comprehensive
review of the safety of RU-486 (the abortion pill) is carried out.
And the pro-life charity Life said it wanted a full and comprehensive
review of the safety of the medication used before home abortions were
introduced.
Should home abortions be allowed? Do you agree with this method? Send
us your comments and experiences using the form below:
Your comments:
Yes, I am in favour of any medication that helps women to safely
terminate an unwanted pregnancy.
Jane, Cheltenham
A hospital environment reinforces the serious nature of an abortion
and is also on standby to deal with any medical or psychological
implications. After all, abortion is an emotional as well as physical
pain and it is impossible to say how anyone will react; the thought of
people being alone during this time is a sad and potentially tragic
scenario.
Jane, Southampton, UK
I have had one of these under 9 week medical abortions. The trauma is
in making the decision to terminate. Once made, this is the fastest,
easiest and most cost efficient way to get on with your life and
mentally deal with what has happened. It doesn't hurt apart from some
mild discomfort, and with the support of my partner, we were able to
move on much faster. I have had a "standard" abortion when I was much
younger which was 100 times more traumatic due to being in a hospital
and being surrounded by other women in various states of distress
waiting for the same procedure in an open waiting room...now that is
traumatic bordering on medieval. People who are anti-abortion clearly
have no idea of the process involved or else they would not be
increasing the trauma of women who make this decision by pushing their
views and hate onto us, it's hard enough as it is. My baby would be up
for adoption by now which I believe leads to a lifetime of suffering
for both mother and child - how can I miss a child which never really
was?
CT, Yorkshire
Going through this at home would have made my experience so much LESS
clinical and intimidating - I found the whole process, naturally,
hugely disturbing. Being at home would probably have eased the initial
trauma considerably. HOWEVER, I do agree that it is psychologically
crucial for the woman to avoid going through this on her own, to be
somewhere she is comfortable BUT with people she can talk to. I was
lucky, I had my partner to talk to but many women don't.
R, London
Killing an unborn child in any form is abhorrent, and is being further
trivialised by this method.
Joanna Begley, Croydon, Surrey
This concerns me. This isn't like taking an aspirin. What if a child
accidentally takes the pill? Or an elderly person living in the home
accidentally mistakes the pills for their own? Without a study on the
effects this drug may have on non-pregnant people, children and males,
I'm not sure that such tablets should be administered without medical
supervision.
Liz, Bedford, UK
A few years ago a 16 year old friend of mine who's contraception
failed had an even worse problem on her hands when the local hospital
made her wait so long for an abortion that she had to have a more
invasive procedure done than simply taking some tablets. I think in
her case this proposal would have made things so much less traumatic
for her and I hope that people will be able to put aside their own
personal feelings on the matter in general to allow others to deal
with their own personal matters in a much quicker and simpler way.
Jennifer, Netherlands, ex-UK
People are always complaining that there is a lack of hospital beds so
home abortions may free up some for other people. So I would say yes,
they should be allowed if there is a bed shortage in hospitals.
Helen, UK
Sounds reasonable, as long as a midwife or other suitably qualified
medical orderly is in attendance.
Graham Rodhouse, Helmond, The Netherlands
This is a double-edged sword. The benefits of being at home are:
familiar surroundings, privacy, comfort and the choice of being alone
or having friends and family around. However, without an experienced
doctor or nurse should there be any complications it could turn into a
terrifying experience. This is equally true of clinical conditions but
the benefits are the experience of the people providing the service
who are on hand to deal with any problems. It could open up a can of
worms with women possibly trying for home abortions after the 9-week
deadline. I agree with abortion as it is a woman's right to choose
what happens to her body. I do not agree with the current time limit
though; it's too high and should be lowered. A friend of mine went
through two abortions as to go ahead with either pregnancy would have
resulted in a very unhappy life for the child. My friend however,
refused counselling and has not got over it properly. This is the
other problem with home abortions - the psychological after effects
must be dealt with properly in order to enable the woman to cope with
her decision and get on with her life.
Grace McGowan, London, England
I feel that it is the individuals right to terminate their pregnancy.
I feel that it is their choice whether this is done at home or in
hospital. It would be advantageous to teenagers who would find this a
confidential method. As long as all the individuals have the
appropriate counselling before and after taking the medication.
s booth, Mansfield Woodhouse Notts
Yes this method of abortion should be allowed. Women don't make this
decision easily, they are the ones who have to live with the
consequences of an abortion and being able to be comfortable in a home
environment can only help. Partners or family can be with the woman if
she chooses. Some hospital environments can be distressing to a woman
who has to have an abortion for whichever reason, choice or medical.
Counselling and support is nearly always available to help women come
to terms with an abortion and the after effects. It seems that
sometimes people (ProLife Alliance) don't take into account the
psychological effects of going ahead with a pregnancy, whether
unplanned or planned.
Judith, Newcastle upon Tyne
If we are going to have home abortions, that is the taking of human
life in the 'comfort' of ones home then we might as well have home
euthanasia to add to the disgusting catalogue of "events" that are now
taking place or will take place in the near future in our glorious
country the very EU'd UK!
R Steward, Hampshire, England
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2278 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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"Ahhhhhh, yessssssss, ummmmmmm - Alito, Alito, Alito"
-duke (duckgumbo@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 59
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge,who pussied
out of the Vietnam draft, showing his gay side
despite his avowed anti-gay bigotry
Contact duke's priest and ask
him why duke is such a racist:
http://www.stpatrickbr.org/
Father Gerard "Jerry" Martin
stpatrickbr<AT>bellsouth<DOT>net
Saint Patrick Catholic Church
12424 Brogdon Lane
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70816
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| User: "satyr" |
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| Title: Re: BBC: New Home Abortion Technique Safe |
22 Feb 2006 06:57:25 PM |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:51:31 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
None of the 172 women, who took tablets supervised by a nurse in a
health centre, suffered serious complications, Nursing Standard
reported.
But anti-abortionists say the process is too traumatic for women.
You gotta love these guys. Voluntarily taking five pills is too
traumatic for women. Being forced to carry a rapist's progeny (or any
unwanted pregnancy) to term, that's not too traumatic. Being forced
to squeeze an eight pound baby out her vagina, that's not too
traumatic. Alternatively, having her belly slit open and cut down to
her internal organs, that's not too traumatic either. But five pills;
much too traumatic. She must be denied that option for her own good.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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| Title: Re: BBC: New Home Abortion Technique Safe |
23 Feb 2006 10:28:28 AM |
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On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:57:25 GMT, satyr <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org>
wrote:
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:51:31 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
None of the 172 women, who took tablets supervised by a nurse in a
health centre, suffered serious complications, Nursing Standard
reported.
But anti-abortionists say the process is too traumatic for women.
You gotta love these guys. Voluntarily taking five pills is too
traumatic for women. Being forced to carry a rapist's progeny (or any
unwanted pregnancy) to term, that's not too traumatic. Being forced
to squeeze an eight pound baby out her vagina, that's not too
traumatic. Alternatively, having her belly slit open and cut down to
her internal organs, that's not too traumatic either. But five pills;
much too traumatic. She must be denied that option for her own good.
Pro-Rapist Christians are kind of weird that way.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2279 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Ahhhhhh, yessssssss, ummmmmmm - Alito, Alito, Alito"
-duke (duckgumbo@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 59
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge,who pussied
out of the Vietnam draft, showing his gay side
despite his avowed anti-gay bigotry
Contact duke's priest and ask
him why duke is such a racist:
http://www.stpatrickbr.org/
Father Gerard "Jerry" Martin
stpatrickbr<AT>bellsouth<DOT>net
Saint Patrick Catholic Church
12424 Brogdon Lane
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70816
.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: BBC: New Home Abortion Technique Safe |
24 Feb 2006 11:10:02 AM |
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On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:28:28 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
alt.atheism
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:57:25 GMT, satyr <RsEaMtOyVrE@infidels.org>
wrote:
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 19:51:31 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
None of the 172 women, who took tablets supervised by a nurse in a
health centre, suffered serious complications, Nursing Standard
reported.
But anti-abortionists say the process is too traumatic for women.
You gotta love these guys. Voluntarily taking five pills is too
traumatic for women. Being forced to carry a rapist's progeny (or any
unwanted pregnancy) to term, that's not too traumatic. Being forced
to squeeze an eight pound baby out her vagina, that's not too
traumatic. Alternatively, having her belly slit open and cut down to
her internal organs, that's not too traumatic either. But five pills;
much too traumatic. She must be denied that option for her own good.
Pro-Rapist Christians are kind of weird that way.
Perverts have that tendency.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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