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"Fred Stone" |
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22 Aug 2007 06:43:34 PM |
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Be afraid. Be very afraid. |
http://www.maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=18176
Ted Nugent might run for Governor of Michigan
By: Adam Tanner
Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:24 AM EDT
LAS VEGAS (Reuters) - Ted Nugent is exuberantly excited most of the
time, but he grows even more animated when asked if he ever tires of
playing "Cat Scratch Fever," the 1977 hit he's played thousands of times
in a 40-year career.
He shouts repeated obscenities, then picks up a guitar and plays part of
both "Cat Scratch Fever" and his 1975 song "Stranglehold" with unbridled
enthusiasm.
"When I get on stage, I know what it means to people, I know what it
means to me. It's a timeless masterpiece guitar song, how can I not play
that?" he said in his dressing room before a recent concert at the House
of Blues in Las Vegas.
At age 58, Nugent still brims with teenage enthusiasm for hard rock
music. He is also one of the nation's most outspoken gun and hunting
advocates. And he is considering a run for political office.
Mixing the unbridled personality of actor Robin Williams with the
vocabulary of an urban rapper, the father and grandfather still performs
about 70 concerts a year in which his music stays true to his hard rock
roots with a relentless beat.
"I haven't lost the energy but I have learned how to better and more
efficiently channel it."
People close to Nugent confirm his manic ways. "He's pretty much that
way all the time," said singer and guitarist Derek St. Holmes, who has
played with Nugent since the 1970s.
A board member of the National Rifle Association, Nugent says he spends
about 200 days a year hunting, guiding clients to places such as his
Michigan hunting preserve, as well as Alaska, Africa, California,
Colorado, Texas, and Canada.
He favors hunting many different species, including elephants, mountain
lions and tigers, and only when pressed comes up with a few animals he
believes should not be hunted, such as penguins.
From Detroit and known as the "Motor City Madman," he has performed
nearly 6,000 concerts in his career and releases his 32nd album, "Love
Grenade," on September 4, which sticks with the sex and rock formula.
GOVERNOR NUGENT?
For all of his wild-man antics, the politically conservative Nugent is
talking about following in the footsteps of celebrities such as actor
Arnold Schwarzenegger or wrestler Jesse Ventura, who won gubernatorial
races.
"That would be beautiful," Nugent said when asked if he would run for
governor of Michigan in 2010. "I have threatened to do so and I was
sincere."
Some of Nugent's antics make even Schwarzenegger's past outspokenness
appear measured by comparison.
"Michigan was once a great state. Michigan was a state that rewarded the
entrepreneur and the most productive, work-ethic families of the state.
Now the pimps and the whores and the welfare brats are basically the
state's babies."
Nugent refuses to mince words and often uses a racial epithet to
describe blacks that normally would mean political suicide. He says his
embrace of the word reflects his respect for the black contribution to
rock and roll and has another expletive for anyone who disagrees with
him.
Heavy duty weapons decorate the stage during his concerts and at his Las
Vegas performance he condemned Democratic presidential candidates
Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
Long a critic of drugs, Nugent wrote a recent opinion article for the
Wall Street Journal condemning the widespread drug use during the Summer
of Love in 1967. He drank just cold water before his Vegas concert.
Nugent still embraces the carnal part of the sex, drugs and rock and
roll formula and peppers his concert dialogue with a word describing
women that many find offensive.
He described the availability of sex earlier in his life like this: "It
was like when carp breed. You walk across the stream and they are ...
splashing in the shallows. Just jump in."
Now Nugent says he is a one-woman man, living with his wife and youngest
son in Crawford, Texas, near President George W. Bush's ranch. Life is
"peaceful, barbecue every day, a lot of school activities with my son
Rocco, a lot of charity work."
Although Nugent appears younger than his 58 years (he says freshly
hunted venison meat is one secret to longevity), loud music for decades
has caused major hearing loss in one ear.
"The ear's not too good, especially with background noise. That's a
small price to pay," he said. "Believe me the journey was worth it."
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it.” -
George Orwell
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| User: "ike milligan" |
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| Title: Re: Be afraid. Be very afraid. |
22 Aug 2007 09:49:36 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9994C8C9D8531freddybear@216.151.153.48...
http://www.maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=18176
Ted Nugent might run for Governor of Michigan
We were already afraid.
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| User: "655321" |
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22 Aug 2007 09:27:39 PM |
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In article <Xns9994C8C9D8531freddybear@216.151.153.48>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:
Ted Nugent might run for Governor of Michigan
If elected, he'd run away from the position like that other
cross-dressing fellow did in Minnesota.
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655321
"We are heroes in error" -- Ahmad Chalabi
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| User: "Santolina chamaecyparissus" |
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22 Aug 2007 08:33:29 PM |
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On Aug 22, 4:43 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=18176
Ted Nugent might run for Governor of Michigan
Why should anybody be afraid of that, he couldn't possibly ***** things
up worse than a mainstream politician.
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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22 Aug 2007 10:39:05 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:33:29 -0700, in alt.atheism , Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santolina@juno.com> in
<1187832809.361133.280380@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 4:43 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=18176
Ted Nugent might run for Governor of Michigan
Why should anybody be afraid of that, he couldn't possibly ***** things
up worse than a mainstream politician.
I bet you did not think it matter who won in 2000 either. I would have
thought that we learned that lesson.
That said, I welcome Nugent into the race. It that is what the
Republican party has become I am not exactly afraid.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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| User: "Santolina chamaecyparissus" |
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22 Aug 2007 10:46:18 PM |
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On Aug 22, 8:39 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:33:29 -0700, in alt.atheism , Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187832809.361133.280...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 4:43 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=18176
Ted Nugent might run for Governor of Michigan
Why should anybody be afraid of that, he couldn't possibly ***** things
up worse than a mainstream politician.
I bet you did not think it matter who won in 2000 either.
2000 was mainstream vs. mainstream politicians.
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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23 Aug 2007 06:25:43 AM |
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:46:18 -0700, in alt.atheism , Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santolina@juno.com> in
<1187840778.976053.28370@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 8:39 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:33:29 -0700, in alt.atheism , Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187832809.361133.280...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 4:43 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=18176
Ted Nugent might run for Governor of Michigan
Why should anybody be afraid of that, he couldn't possibly ***** things
up worse than a mainstream politician.
I bet you did not think it matter who won in 2000 either.
2000 was mainstream vs. mainstream politicians.
Well, then, it clearly matters which mainstream politician wins then.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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| User: "Santolina chamaecyparissus" |
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23 Aug 2007 10:54:29 AM |
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On Aug 23, 4:25 am, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:46:18 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187840778.976053.28...@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 8:39 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:33:29 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187832809.361133.280...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 4:43 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=18176
Ted Nugent might run for Governor of Michigan
Why should anybody be afraid of that, he couldn't possibly ***** things
up worse than a mainstream politician.
I bet you did not think it matter who won in 2000 either.
2000 was mainstream vs. mainstream politicians.
Well, then, it clearly matters which mainstream politician wins then.
Perhaps, though a point unrelated to my original one.
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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23 Aug 2007 11:04:04 AM |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:54:29 -0700, in alt.atheism , Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santolina@juno.com> in
<1187884469.949645.176880@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 23, 4:25 am, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:46:18 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187840778.976053.28...@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 8:39 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:33:29 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187832809.361133.280...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 4:43 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=18176
Ted Nugent might run for Governor of Michigan
Why should anybody be afraid of that, he couldn't possibly ***** things
up worse than a mainstream politician.
I bet you did not think it matter who won in 2000 either.
2000 was mainstream vs. mainstream politicians.
Well, then, it clearly matters which mainstream politician wins then.
Perhaps, though a point unrelated to my original one.
No, it is not unrelated. We should have learned in 2000 that lumping
all Democrats and Republicans into the same category was a very bad
idea. And if you want something more direct, of course he can be much
worse than many mainstream politicians. Nugent is a kook. Ventura, at
least, was a smart man even if he could not govern. Nugent is just a
kook.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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| User: "Santolina chamaecyparissus" |
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23 Aug 2007 11:23:20 AM |
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On Aug 23, 9:04 am, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:54:29 -0700, in alt.atheism , Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187884469.949645.176...@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 23, 4:25 am, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:46:18 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187840778.976053.28...@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 8:39 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:33:29 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187832809.361133.280...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 4:43 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=18176
Ted Nugent might run for Governor of Michigan
Why should anybody be afraid of that, he couldn't possibly ***** things
up worse than a mainstream politician.
I bet you did not think it matter who won in 2000 either.
2000 was mainstream vs. mainstream politicians.
Well, then, it clearly matters which mainstream politician wins then.
Perhaps, though a point unrelated to my original one.
No, it is not unrelated. We should have learned in 2000 that lumping
all Democrats and Republicans into the same category was a very bad
idea.
You're making a different point than the one I was making.
And if you want something more direct, of course he can be much
worse than many mainstream politicians. Nugent is a kook. Ventura, at
least, was a smart man even if he could not govern. Nugent is just a
kook.
That may be, but doesn't change the point I was making.
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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23 Aug 2007 01:42:18 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 09:23:20 -0700, in alt.atheism , Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santolina@juno.com> in
<1187886200.035877.238460@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 23, 9:04 am, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:54:29 -0700, in alt.atheism , Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187884469.949645.176...@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 23, 4:25 am, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:46:18 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187840778.976053.28...@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 8:39 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:33:29 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187832809.361133.280...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 4:43 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=18176
Ted Nugent might run for Governor of Michigan
Why should anybody be afraid of that, he couldn't possibly ***** things
up worse than a mainstream politician.
I bet you did not think it matter who won in 2000 either.
2000 was mainstream vs. mainstream politicians.
Well, then, it clearly matters which mainstream politician wins then.
Perhaps, though a point unrelated to my original one.
No, it is not unrelated. We should have learned in 2000 that lumping
all Democrats and Republicans into the same category was a very bad
idea.
You're making a different point than the one I was making.
And if you want something more direct, of course he can be much
worse than many mainstream politicians. Nugent is a kook. Ventura, at
least, was a smart man even if he could not govern. Nugent is just a
kook.
That may be, but doesn't change the point I was making.
Your point, I thought, was that he could not do worse than a
mainstream politician. I assumed that the "a" mean any and not some
specific mainstream politician. My response is that there is a wide
variety of mainstream politicians and that non-mainstream people,
Nugent included, can do far worse than some of the mainstream. What
have I missed?
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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| User: "Santolina chamaecyparissus" |
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23 Aug 2007 05:58:29 PM |
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On Aug 23, 11:42 am, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 09:23:20 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187886200.035877.238...@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 23, 9:04 am, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:54:29 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187884469.949645.176...@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 23, 4:25 am, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:46:18 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187840778.976053.28...@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 8:39 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:33:29 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187832809.361133.280...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 4:43 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=18176
Ted Nugent might run for Governor of Michigan
Why should anybody be afraid of that, he couldn't possibly ***** things
up worse than a mainstream politician.
I bet you did not think it matter who won in 2000 either.
2000 was mainstream vs. mainstream politicians.
Well, then, it clearly matters which mainstream politician wins then.
Perhaps, though a point unrelated to my original one.
No, it is not unrelated. We should have learned in 2000 that lumping
all Democrats and Republicans into the same category was a very bad
idea.
You're making a different point than the one I was making.
And if you want something more direct, of course he can be much
worse than many mainstream politicians. Nugent is a kook. Ventura, at
least, was a smart man even if he could not govern. Nugent is just a
kook.
That may be, but doesn't change the point I was making.
Your point, I thought, was that he could not do worse than a
mainstream politician.
We were told to be afraid of Ted Nugent running for office because he
is Ted Nugent. My response is that I see no reason to fear Ted Nugent
any more than the hundreds of warmongering, torture-enabling,
Constitution-hating yokels who already infest state and national
offices.
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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23 Aug 2007 06:25:57 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:58:29 -0700, in alt.atheism , Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santolina@juno.com> in
<1187909909.268571.256190@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 23, 11:42 am, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 09:23:20 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187886200.035877.238...@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 23, 9:04 am, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:54:29 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187884469.949645.176...@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 23, 4:25 am, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:46:18 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187840778.976053.28...@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 8:39 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:33:29 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187832809.361133.280...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 4:43 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=18176
Ted Nugent might run for Governor of Michigan
Why should anybody be afraid of that, he couldn't possibly ***** things
up worse than a mainstream politician.
I bet you did not think it matter who won in 2000 either.
2000 was mainstream vs. mainstream politicians.
Well, then, it clearly matters which mainstream politician wins then.
Perhaps, though a point unrelated to my original one.
No, it is not unrelated. We should have learned in 2000 that lumping
all Democrats and Republicans into the same category was a very bad
idea.
You're making a different point than the one I was making.
And if you want something more direct, of course he can be much
worse than many mainstream politicians. Nugent is a kook. Ventura, at
least, was a smart man even if he could not govern. Nugent is just a
kook.
That may be, but doesn't change the point I was making.
Your point, I thought, was that he could not do worse than a
mainstream politician.
We were told to be afraid of Ted Nugent running for office because he
is Ted Nugent. My response is that I see no reason to fear Ted Nugent
any more than the hundreds of warmongering, torture-enabling,
Constitution-hating yokels who already infest state and national
offices.
That was not what you wrote though, that I agree with. In fact I am
not much more afraid of him than I am of Ron Paul. The time has passed
for nonsense politics. Ventura, who had a much better background for
the job, could get elected because we did not think it mattered,
things seemed good. Now we know it does matter.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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| User: "Santolina chamaecyparissus" |
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23 Aug 2007 08:52:20 PM |
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On Aug 23, 4:25 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:58:29 -0700, in alt.atheism , Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187909909.268571.256...@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 23, 11:42 am, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 09:23:20 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187886200.035877.238...@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 23, 9:04 am, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:54:29 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187884469.949645.176...@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 23, 4:25 am, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:46:18 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187840778.976053.28...@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 8:39 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:33:29 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187832809.361133.280...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 4:43 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=18176
Ted Nugent might run for Governor of Michigan
Why should anybody be afraid of that, he couldn't possibly ***** things
up worse than a mainstream politician.
I bet you did not think it matter who won in 2000 either.
2000 was mainstream vs. mainstream politicians.
Well, then, it clearly matters which mainstream politician wins then.
Perhaps, though a point unrelated to my original one.
No, it is not unrelated. We should have learned in 2000 that lumping
all Democrats and Republicans into the same category was a very bad
idea.
You're making a different point than the one I was making.
And if you want something more direct, of course he can be much
worse than many mainstream politicians. Nugent is a kook. Ventura, at
least, was a smart man even if he could not govern. Nugent is just a
kook.
That may be, but doesn't change the point I was making.
Your point, I thought, was that he could not do worse than a
mainstream politician.
We were told to be afraid of Ted Nugent running for office because he
is Ted Nugent. My response is that I see no reason to fear Ted Nugent
any more than the hundreds of warmongering, torture-enabling,
Constitution-hating yokels who already infest state and national
offices.
That was not what you wrote though,
*****, it was just meant to be a humorous riposte, I didn't expect the
Spanish Inquisition.
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:52:20 -0700, in alt.atheism , Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santolina@juno.com> in
<1187920340.825230.84640@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 23, 4:25 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:58:29 -0700, in alt.atheism , Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187909909.268571.256...@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 23, 11:42 am, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 09:23:20 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187886200.035877.238...@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 23, 9:04 am, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:54:29 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187884469.949645.176...@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 23, 4:25 am, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:46:18 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187840778.976053.28...@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 8:39 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:33:29 -0700, in alt.atheism ,Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187832809.361133.280...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 4:43 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=18176
Ted Nugent might run for Governor of Michigan
Why should anybody be afraid of that, he couldn't possibly ***** things
up worse than a mainstream politician.
I bet you did not think it matter who won in 2000 either.
2000 was mainstream vs. mainstream politicians.
Well, then, it clearly matters which mainstream politician wins then.
Perhaps, though a point unrelated to my original one.
No, it is not unrelated. We should have learned in 2000 that lumping
all Democrats and Republicans into the same category was a very bad
idea.
You're making a different point than the one I was making.
And if you want something more direct, of course he can be much
worse than many mainstream politicians. Nugent is a kook. Ventura, at
least, was a smart man even if he could not govern. Nugent is just a
kook.
That may be, but doesn't change the point I was making.
Your point, I thought, was that he could not do worse than a
mainstream politician.
We were told to be afraid of Ted Nugent running for office because he
is Ted Nugent. My response is that I see no reason to fear Ted Nugent
any more than the hundreds of warmongering, torture-enabling,
Constitution-hating yokels who already infest state and national
offices.
That was not what you wrote though,
*****, it was just meant to be a humorous riposte, I didn't expect the
Spanish Inquisition.
Let me come back in again.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 07:25:43 -0400, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:46:18 -0700, in alt.atheism , Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santolina@juno.com> in
<1187840778.976053.28370@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 8:39 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:33:29 -0700, in alt.atheism , Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187832809.361133.280...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 4:43 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=18176
Ted Nugent might run for Governor of Michigan
Why should anybody be afraid of that, he couldn't possibly ***** things
up worse than a mainstream politician.
I bet you did not think it matter who won in 2000 either.
2000 was mainstream vs. mainstream politicians.
Well, then, it clearly matters which mainstream politician wins then.
That's rght, Gush and Bore, yuk yuk.
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:15:06 GMT, in alt.atheism , "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> in
<fa5rc3dgvq32lkfbg9197kh933fb491gg2@4ax.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 07:25:43 -0400, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:46:18 -0700, in alt.atheism , Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santolina@juno.com> in
<1187840778.976053.28370@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 8:39 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:33:29 -0700, in alt.atheism , Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187832809.361133.280...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 4:43 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=18176
Ted Nugent might run for Governor of Michigan
Why should anybody be afraid of that, he couldn't possibly ***** things
up worse than a mainstream politician.
I bet you did not think it matter who won in 2000 either.
2000 was mainstream vs. mainstream politicians.
Well, then, it clearly matters which mainstream politician wins then.
That's rght, Gush and Bore, yuk yuk.
Wow, such a cogent argument.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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23 Aug 2007 10:14:57 AM |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:30:29 -0400, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:15:06 GMT, in alt.atheism , "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> in
<fa5rc3dgvq32lkfbg9197kh933fb491gg2@4ax.com> wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 07:25:43 -0400, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:46:18 -0700, in alt.atheism , Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santolina@juno.com> in
<1187840778.976053.28370@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 8:39 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:33:29 -0700, in alt.atheism , Santolina
chamaecyparissus <santol...@juno.com> in
<1187832809.361133.280...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Aug 22, 4:43 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=18176
Ted Nugent might run for Governor of Michigan
Why should anybody be afraid of that, he couldn't possibly ***** things
up worse than a mainstream politician.
I bet you did not think it matter who won in 2000 either.
2000 was mainstream vs. mainstream politicians.
Well, then, it clearly matters which mainstream politician wins then.
That's rght, Gush and Bore, yuk yuk.
Wow, such a cogent argument.
Well, it certainly wasn't when the Naderites used it in 2000.
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
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On Aug 22, 7:43 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=18176
Ted Nugent might run for Governor of Michigan
By: Adam Tanner
Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:24 AM EDT
LAS VEGAS (Reuters) - Ted Nugent is exuberantly excited most of the
time, but he grows even more animated when asked if he ever tires of
playing "Cat Scratch Fever," the 1977 hit he's played thousands of times
in a 40-year career.
He shouts repeated obscenities, then picks up a guitar and plays part of
both "Cat Scratch Fever" and his 1975 song "Stranglehold" with unbridled
enthusiasm.
"When I get on stage, I know what it means to people, I know what it
means to me. It's a timeless masterpiece guitar song, how can I not play
that?" he said in his dressing room before a recent concert at the House
of Blues in Las Vegas.
At age 58, Nugent still brims with teenage enthusiasm for hard rock
music. He is also one of the nation's most outspoken gun and hunting
advocates. And he is considering a run for political office.
Mixing the unbridled personality of actor Robin Williams with the
vocabulary of an urban rapper, the father and grandfather still performs
about 70 concerts a year in which his music stays true to his hard rock
roots with a relentless beat.
"I haven't lost the energy but I have learned how to better and more
efficiently channel it."
People close to Nugent confirm his manic ways. "He's pretty much that
way all the time," said singer and guitarist Derek St. Holmes, who has
played with Nugent since the 1970s.
A board member of the National Rifle Association, Nugent says he spends
about 200 days a year hunting, guiding clients to places such as his
Michigan hunting preserve, as well as Alaska, Africa, California,
Colorado, Texas, and Canada.
He favors hunting many different species, including elephants, mountain
lions and tigers, and only when pressed comes up with a few animals he
believes should not be hunted, such as penguins.
From Detroit and known as the "Motor City Madman," he has performed
nearly 6,000 concerts in his career and releases his 32nd album, "Love
Grenade," on September 4, which sticks with the sex and rock formula.
GOVERNOR NUGENT?
For all of his wild-man antics, the politically conservative Nugent is
talking about following in the footsteps of celebrities such as actor
Arnold Schwarzenegger or wrestler Jesse Ventura, who won gubernatorial
races.
"That would be beautiful," Nugent said when asked if he would run for
governor of Michigan in 2010. "I have threatened to do so and I was
sincere."
Some of Nugent's antics make even Schwarzenegger's past outspokenness
appear measured by comparison.
"Michigan was once a great state. Michigan was a state that rewarded the
entrepreneur and the most productive, work-ethic families of the state.
Now the pimps and the whores and the welfare brats are basically the
state's babies."
Nugent refuses to mince words and often uses a racial epithet to
describe blacks that normally would mean political suicide. He says his
embrace of the word reflects his respect for the black contribution to
rock and roll and has another expletive for anyone who disagrees with
him.
Heavy duty weapons decorate the stage during his concerts and at his Las
Vegas performance he condemned Democratic presidential candidates
Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
Long a critic of drugs, Nugent wrote a recent opinion article for the
Wall Street Journal condemning the widespread drug use during the Summer
of Love in 1967. He drank just cold water before his Vegas concert.
Nugent still embraces the carnal part of the sex, drugs and rock and
roll formula and peppers his concert dialogue with a word describing
women that many find offensive.
He described the availability of sex earlier in his life like this: "It
was like when carp breed. You walk across the stream and they are ...
splashing in the shallows. Just jump in."
Now Nugent says he is a one-woman man, living with his wife and youngest
son in Crawford, Texas, near President George W. Bush's ranch. Life is
"peaceful, barbecue every day, a lot of school activities with my son
Rocco, a lot of charity work."
Although Nugent appears younger than his 58 years (he says freshly
hunted venison meat is one secret to longevity), loud music for decades
has caused major hearing loss in one ear.
"The ear's not too good, especially with background noise. That's a
small price to pay," he said. "Believe me the journey was worth it."
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it." -
George Orwell
He has my vote
Wackem, stackem, and packem
The simple things work best.
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"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1187831796.388833.299270@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 22, 7:43 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=18176
Ted Nugent might run for Governor of Michigan
By: Adam Tanner
Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:24 AM EDT
LAS VEGAS (Reuters) - Ted Nugent is exuberantly excited most of the
time, but he grows even more animated when asked if he ever tires of
playing "Cat Scratch Fever," the 1977 hit he's played thousands of times
in a 40-year career.
He shouts repeated obscenities, then picks up a guitar and plays part of
both "Cat Scratch Fever" and his 1975 song "Stranglehold" with unbridled
enthusiasm.
"When I get on stage, I know what it means to people, I know what it
means to me. It's a timeless masterpiece guitar song, how can I not play
that?" he said in his dressing room before a recent concert at the House
of Blues in Las Vegas.
At age 58, Nugent still brims with teenage enthusiasm for hard rock
music. He is also one of the nation's most outspoken gun and hunting
advocates. And he is considering a run for political office.
Mixing the unbridled personality of actor Robin Williams with the
vocabulary of an urban rapper, the father and grandfather still performs
about 70 concerts a year in which his music stays true to his hard rock
roots with a relentless beat.
"I haven't lost the energy but I have learned how to better and more
efficiently channel it."
People close to Nugent confirm his manic ways. "He's pretty much that
way all the time," said singer and guitarist Derek St. Holmes, who has
played with Nugent since the 1970s.
A board member of the National Rifle Association, Nugent says he spends
about 200 days a year hunting, guiding clients to places such as his
Michigan hunting preserve, as well as Alaska, Africa, California,
Colorado, Texas, and Canada.
He favors hunting many different species, including elephants, mountain
lions and tigers, and only when pressed comes up with a few animals he
believes should not be hunted, such as penguins.
From Detroit and known as the "Motor City Madman," he has performed
nearly 6,000 concerts in his career and releases his 32nd album, "Love
Grenade," on September 4, which sticks with the sex and rock formula.
GOVERNOR NUGENT?
For all of his wild-man antics, the politically conservative Nugent is
talking about following in the footsteps of celebrities such as actor
Arnold Schwarzenegger or wrestler Jesse Ventura, who won gubernatorial
races.
"That would be beautiful," Nugent said when asked if he would run for
governor of Michigan in 2010. "I have threatened to do so and I was
sincere."
Some of Nugent's antics make even Schwarzenegger's past outspokenness
appear measured by comparison.
"Michigan was once a great state. Michigan was a state that rewarded the
entrepreneur and the most productive, work-ethic families of the state.
Now the pimps and the whores and the welfare brats are basically the
state's babies."
Nugent refuses to mince words and often uses a racial epithet to
describe blacks that normally would mean political suicide. He says his
embrace of the word reflects his respect for the black contribution to
rock and roll and has another expletive for anyone who disagrees with
him.
Heavy duty weapons decorate the stage during his concerts and at his Las
Vegas performance he condemned Democratic presidential candidates
Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
Long a critic of drugs, Nugent wrote a recent opinion article for the
Wall Street Journal condemning the widespread drug use during the Summer
of Love in 1967. He drank just cold water before his Vegas concert.
Nugent still embraces the carnal part of the sex, drugs and rock and
roll formula and peppers his concert dialogue with a word describing
women that many find offensive.
He described the availability of sex earlier in his life like this: "It
was like when carp breed. You walk across the stream and they are ...
splashing in the shallows. Just jump in."
Now Nugent says he is a one-woman man, living with his wife and youngest
son in Crawford, Texas, near President George W. Bush's ranch. Life is
"peaceful, barbecue every day, a lot of school activities with my son
Rocco, a lot of charity work."
Although Nugent appears younger than his 58 years (he says freshly
hunted venison meat is one secret to longevity), loud music for decades
has caused major hearing loss in one ear.
"The ear's not too good, especially with background noise. That's a
small price to pay," he said. "Believe me the journey was worth it."
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it." -
George Orwell
He has my vote
Wackem, stackem, and packem
The simple things work best.
He lives in Texas but wants to run for governor
of Michigan? He's a big game hunter? He's been
a sexist ***** for years, except where his wife
is concerned? And, he's ultra-Conservative
politically? I wouldn't vote for Ted Nugent if he
was the last man on Earth.
--
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Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
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On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 05:20:19 -0400, "Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
wrote:
"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1187831796.388833.299270@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 22, 7:43 pm, Fred Stone <fston...@earthling.com> wrote:
http://www.maconareaonline.com/news.asp?id=18176
Ted Nugent might run for Governor of Michigan
By: Adam Tanner
Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:24 AM EDT
LAS VEGAS (Reuters) - Ted Nugent is exuberantly excited most of the
time, but he grows even more animated when asked if he ever tires of
playing "Cat Scratch Fever," the 1977 hit he's played thousands of times
in a 40-year career.
He shouts repeated obscenities, then picks up a guitar and plays part of
both "Cat Scratch Fever" and his 1975 song "Stranglehold" with unbridled
enthusiasm.
"When I get on stage, I know what it means to people, I know what it
means to me. It's a timeless masterpiece guitar song, how can I not play
that?" he said in his dressing room before a recent concert at the House
of Blues in Las Vegas.
At age 58, Nugent still brims with teenage enthusiasm for hard rock
music. He is also one of the nation's most outspoken gun and hunting
advocates. And he is considering a run for political office.
Mixing the unbridled personality of actor Robin Williams with the
vocabulary of an urban rapper, the father and grandfather still performs
about 70 concerts a year in which his music stays true to his hard rock
roots with a relentless beat.
"I haven't lost the energy but I have learned how to better and more
efficiently channel it."
People close to Nugent confirm his manic ways. "He's pretty much that
way all the time," said singer and guitarist Derek St. Holmes, who has
played with Nugent since the 1970s.
A board member of the National Rifle Association, Nugent says he spends
about 200 days a year hunting, guiding clients to places such as his
Michigan hunting preserve, as well as Alaska, Africa, California,
Colorado, Texas, and Canada.
He favors hunting many different species, including elephants, mountain
lions and tigers, and only when pressed comes up with a few animals he
believes should not be hunted, such as penguins.
From Detroit and known as the "Motor City Madman," he has performed
nearly 6,000 concerts in his career and releases his 32nd album, "Love
Grenade," on September 4, which sticks with the sex and rock formula.
GOVERNOR NUGENT?
For all of his wild-man antics, the politically conservative Nugent is
talking about following in the footsteps of celebrities such as actor
Arnold Schwarzenegger or wrestler Jesse Ventura, who won gubernatorial
races.
"That would be beautiful," Nugent said when asked if he would run for
governor of Michigan in 2010. "I have threatened to do so and I was
sincere."
Some of Nugent's antics make even Schwarzenegger's past outspokenness
appear measured by comparison.
"Michigan was once a great state. Michigan was a state that rewarded the
entrepreneur and the most productive, work-ethic families of the state.
Now the pimps and the whores and the welfare brats are basically the
state's babies."
Nugent refuses to mince words and often uses a racial epithet to
describe blacks that normally would mean political suicide. He says his
embrace of the word reflects his respect for the black contribution to
rock and roll and has another expletive for anyone who disagrees with
him.
Heavy duty weapons decorate the stage during his concerts and at his Las
Vegas performance he condemned Democratic presidential candidates
Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
Long a critic of drugs, Nugent wrote a recent opinion article for the
Wall Street Journal condemning the widespread drug use during the Summer
of Love in 1967. He drank just cold water before his Vegas concert.
Nugent still embraces the carnal part of the sex, drugs and rock and
roll formula and peppers his concert dialogue with a word describing
women that many find offensive.
He described the availability of sex earlier in his life like this: "It
was like when carp breed. You walk across the stream and they are ...
splashing in the shallows. Just jump in."
Now Nugent says he is a one-woman man, living with his wife and youngest
son in Crawford, Texas, near President George W. Bush's ranch. Life is
"peaceful, barbecue every day, a lot of school activities with my son
Rocco, a lot of charity work."
Although Nugent appears younger than his 58 years (he says freshly
hunted venison meat is one secret to longevity), loud music for decades
has caused major hearing loss in one ear.
"The ear's not too good, especially with background noise. That's a
small price to pay," he said. "Believe me the journey was worth it."
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it." -
George Orwell
He has my vote
Wackem, stackem, and packem
The simple things work best.
He lives in Texas but wants to run for governor
of Michigan? He's a big game hunter? He's been
a sexist ***** for years, except where his wife
is concerned? And, he's ultra-Conservative
politically? I wouldn't vote for Ted Nugent if he
was the last man on Earth.
Crap, that would mean Michael, Stoney, Al, johac, hatter, Lucifer (sorry if I
missed anyone) and I are all dead!
Ben
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