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Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Pal Charpton" |
| Date: |
04 Jan 2004 06:24:33 PM |
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BELITTLE THE HOLOCAUST |
Holocaust denial is ignorant. They wish to erase a historical moral
fault that might be held against them. They want to deny the jews
a historical moral victory. They want to deny the jews their "victimhood"
so that they can be victims too.
I have a better idea. I love that the holocaust occoured, because
it was an intensive event of de-humanization and mind-stunning brutality.
It deeply shames even those who were not yet alive at the time. It
defines jews, especially "secular" ones more than their
formal religious narrative does. It is a nerve, raw and exposed and
should therefore be mocked, belittled, laughed at, celebrated, and
honored. Especially in the presence of the few remaining survivors.
The survivors are now old prunes who have senile dementia, but there
is still a tear available behind their eyes should you wish to drag
it out. You should see the heavy silence many of them fall into at
the mention of their tattoos.
The depth of psychic torment is astounding to observe and thrilling
to belittle...the hurt can turn to anger and the careful selection
of statements such as "Auschwitz? What's the big deal? You should
have been there in college when I was broke and couldn't pay the rent!
I had nothing to eat but mac and cheese! Try THAT for hunger!".
The rage within old people is surprising.
Belittling the holocaust provides a wonderful pleasure that denying
the holocaust simply doesn't provide. Laughing at Schindlers List
or The Sorrow and The Pity is more productive than protesting outside
the cinema.
Best of all, by belittling it, you scare people into thinking that
the lesson has not been learned, and you cause them to fear. Fear
in others is it's own reward.
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| User: "Nvok" |
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| Title: Re: BELITTLE THE HOLOCAUST |
05 Jan 2004 12:50:29 PM |
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(Pal Charpton) wrote in message news:<9cd1f6ab.0401041624.7dc9b998@posting.google.com>...
Holocaust denial is ignorant. They wish to erase a historical moral
fault that might be held against them. They want to deny the jews
a historical moral victory. They want to deny the jews their "victimhood"
so that they can be victims too.
I'm sorry for you. You are nothing less than a heartless lunatic. The
holocaust was not a joke. I'm angry at you, but also sad. Sad that
such wrong could exist. Please reconsider what you think.
6 million people died in the holocaust, 2 million at auschwitz, where
thousands died every day. These people were of jewish descent, but as
normal as anyone.
I know that this has no chance of affecting you or your beliefs, but I
must try.
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| User: "amigocabal" |
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| Title: Re: BELITTLE THE HOLOCAUST |
05 Jan 2004 07:05:50 PM |
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"N'vok" <cairnbaan@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:53f24416.0401051050.42c0ea42@posting.google.com...
palcharpton@hotmail.com (Pal Charpton) wrote in message
news:<9cd1f6ab.0401041624.7dc9b998@posting.google.com>...
Holocaust denial is ignorant. They wish to erase a historical moral
fault that might be held against them. They want to deny the jews
a historical moral victory. They want to deny the jews their
"victimhood"
so that they can be victims too.
I'm sorry for you. You are nothing less than a heartless lunatic. The
holocaust was not a joke. I'm angry at you, but also sad. Sad that
such wrong could exist. Please reconsider what you think.
6 million people died in the holocaust, 2 million at auschwitz, where
thousands died every day. These people were of jewish descent, but as
normal as anyone.
What a bloody liar you are! Auschwitz existed only 800 days. By your account
Nazis have been murdering people at the rate of two a minute for 800 days.
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| User: "Johnnie Kendricks" |
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| Title: Re: BELITTLE THE HOLOCAUST |
04 Jan 2004 11:29:21 PM |
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Great post!!!
On 4 Jan 2004 16:24:33 -0800, (Pal Charpton)
wrote:
Holocaust denial is ignorant. They wish to erase a historical moral
fault that might be held against them. They want to deny the jews
a historical moral victory. They want to deny the jews their "victimhood"
so that they can be victims too.
I have a better idea. I love that the holocaust occoured, because
it was an intensive event of de-humanization and mind-stunning brutality.
It deeply shames even those who were not yet alive at the time. It
defines jews, especially "secular" ones more than their
formal religious narrative does. It is a nerve, raw and exposed and
should therefore be mocked, belittled, laughed at, celebrated, and
honored. Especially in the presence of the few remaining survivors.
The survivors are now old prunes who have senile dementia, but there
is still a tear available behind their eyes should you wish to drag
it out. You should see the heavy silence many of them fall into at
the mention of their tattoos.
The depth of psychic torment is astounding to observe and thrilling
to belittle...the hurt can turn to anger and the careful selection
of statements such as "Auschwitz? What's the big deal? You should
have been there in college when I was broke and couldn't pay the rent!
I had nothing to eat but mac and cheese! Try THAT for hunger!".
The rage within old people is surprising.
Belittling the holocaust provides a wonderful pleasure that denying
the holocaust simply doesn't provide. Laughing at Schindlers List
or The Sorrow and The Pity is more productive than protesting outside
the cinema.
Best of all, by belittling it, you scare people into thinking that
the lesson has not been learned, and you cause them to fear. Fear
in others is it's own reward.
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| User: "Kurt Knoll" |
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| Title: Re: BELITTLE THE HOLOCAUST |
05 Jan 2004 12:15:50 PM |
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"Johnnie Kendricks" <jdk00@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3ff8f625.3289828@news.cis.dfn.de...
Great post!!!
On 4 Jan 2004 16:24:33 -0800, (Pal Charpton)
wrote:
Holocaust denial is ignorant. They wish to erase a historical moral
fault that might be held against them. They want to deny the jews
a historical moral victory. They want to deny the jews their
"victimhood"
so that they can be victims too.
I have a better idea. I love that the holocaust occoured, because
it was an intensive event of de-humanization and mind-stunning
brutality.
It deeply shames even those who were not yet alive at the time. It
defines jews, especially "secular" ones more than their
formal religious narrative does. It is a nerve, raw and exposed and
should therefore be mocked, belittled, laughed at, celebrated, and
honored. Especially in the presence of the few remaining survivors.
The survivors are now old prunes who have senile dementia, but there
is still a tear available behind their eyes should you wish to drag
it out. You should see the heavy silence many of them fall into at
the mention of their tattoos.
The depth of psychic torment is astounding to observe and thrilling
to belittle...the hurt can turn to anger and the careful selection
of statements such as "Auschwitz? What's the big deal? You should
have been there in college when I was broke and couldn't pay the
rent!
I had nothing to eat but mac and cheese! Try THAT for hunger!".
The rage within old people is surprising.
Belittling the holocaust provides a wonderful pleasure that denying
the holocaust simply doesn't provide. Laughing at Schindlers List
or The Sorrow and The Pity is more productive than protesting outside
the cinema.
Best of all, by belittling it, you scare people into thinking that
the lesson has not been learned, and you cause them to fear. Fear
in others is it's own reward.
Gee I did not know anyone can be forced to believe in the Holocaust. Or
if not he-or-she will brake the Law.
Kurt Knoll.
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| User: "amigocabal" |
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| Title: Re: BELITTLE THE HOLOCAUST |
05 Jan 2004 06:19:22 AM |
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QUESTIONING THE HOLOCAUST, OR ANY OTHER PIECE OF GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA IS
NOT DENYING IT, JUST QUESTIONING!
"Johnnie Kendricks" <jdk00@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3ff8f625.3289828@news.cis.dfn.de...
Great post!!!
On 4 Jan 2004 16:24:33 -0800, (Pal Charpton)
wrote:
Holocaust denial is ignorant. They wish to erase a historical moral
fault that might be held against them. They want to deny the jews
a historical moral victory. They want to deny the jews their "victimhood"
so that they can be victims too.
I have a better idea. I love that the holocaust occoured, because
it was an intensive event of de-humanization and mind-stunning brutality.
It deeply shames even those who were not yet alive at the time. It
defines jews, especially "secular" ones more than their
formal religious narrative does. It is a nerve, raw and exposed and
should therefore be mocked, belittled, laughed at, celebrated, and
honored. Especially in the presence of the few remaining survivors.
The survivors are now old prunes who have senile dementia, but there
is still a tear available behind their eyes should you wish to drag
it out. You should see the heavy silence many of them fall into at
the mention of their tattoos.
The depth of psychic torment is astounding to observe and thrilling
to belittle...the hurt can turn to anger and the careful selection
of statements such as "Auschwitz? What's the big deal? You should
have been there in college when I was broke and couldn't pay the rent!
I had nothing to eat but mac and cheese! Try THAT for hunger!".
The rage within old people is surprising.
Belittling the holocaust provides a wonderful pleasure that denying
the holocaust simply doesn't provide. Laughing at Schindlers List
or The Sorrow and The Pity is more productive than protesting outside
the cinema.
Best of all, by belittling it, you scare people into thinking that
the lesson has not been learned, and you cause them to fear. Fear
in others is it's own reward.
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| User: "Mickey" |
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| Title: Re: BELITTLE THE HOLOCAUST |
05 Jan 2004 06:53:21 AM |
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"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
news:eDcKb.25594$IM3.20651@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
QUESTIONING THE HOLOCAUST, OR ANY OTHER PIECE OF GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA IS
NOT DENYING IT, JUST QUESTIONING!
ROFL!!!!!!! This from the greatest purveyor of forged Talmudic passages on
earth? ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"There is secret version of the Talmud, made in a place called Cracow, that
is for Jews only. When you call Amazon.com and try to order a Talmud, they
will ask you if you are Jewish. If you aren't they won't send it. If you
say you are, they still won't send it. I was taught about it by a rabbi,
who did so after all the Jews left." - Alex Seredin
Mickey
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| User: "amigocabal" |
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05 Jan 2004 06:12:39 AM |
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HOW ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST PERPETRATED BY THE JEWS UPON THE RUSSIANS AND
PALESTINIANS? DOES THAT HOLOCAUST MEAN ANYTHING?
"Pal Charpton" <palcharpton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9cd1f6ab.0401041624.7dc9b998@posting.google.com...
Holocaust denial is ignorant. They wish to erase a historical moral
fault that might be held against them. They want to deny the jews
a historical moral victory. They want to deny the jews their "victimhood"
so that they can be victims too.
I have a better idea. I love that the holocaust occoured, because
it was an intensive event of de-humanization and mind-stunning brutality.
It deeply shames even those who were not yet alive at the time. It
defines jews, especially "secular" ones more than their
formal religious narrative does. It is a nerve, raw and exposed and
should therefore be mocked, belittled, laughed at, celebrated, and
honored. Especially in the presence of the few remaining survivors.
The survivors are now old prunes who have senile dementia, but there
is still a tear available behind their eyes should you wish to drag
it out. You should see the heavy silence many of them fall into at
the mention of their tattoos.
The depth of psychic torment is astounding to observe and thrilling
to belittle...the hurt can turn to anger and the careful selection
of statements such as "Auschwitz? What's the big deal? You should
have been there in college when I was broke and couldn't pay the rent!
I had nothing to eat but mac and cheese! Try THAT for hunger!".
The rage within old people is surprising.
Belittling the holocaust provides a wonderful pleasure that denying
the holocaust simply doesn't provide. Laughing at Schindlers List
or The Sorrow and The Pity is more productive than protesting outside
the cinema.
Best of all, by belittling it, you scare people into thinking that
the lesson has not been learned, and you cause them to fear. Fear
in others is it's own reward.
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| User: "Kurt Knoll" |
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| Title: Re: BELITTLE THE HOLOCAUST |
05 Jan 2004 12:18:14 PM |
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"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
news:XwcKb.25585$IM3.20447@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
HOW ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST PERPETRATED BY THE JEWS UPON THE RUSSIANS AND
PALESTINIANS? DOES THAT HOLOCAUST MEAN ANYTHING?
"Pal Charpton" <palcharpton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9cd1f6ab.0401041624.7dc9b998@posting.google.com...
Holocaust denial is ignorant. They wish to erase a historical moral
fault that might be held against them. They want to deny the jews
a historical moral victory. They want to deny the jews their
"victimhood"
so that they can be victims too.
I have a better idea. I love that the holocaust occoured, because
it was an intensive event of de-humanization and mind-stunning
brutality.
It deeply shames even those who were not yet alive at the time. It
defines jews, especially "secular" ones more than their
formal religious narrative does. It is a nerve, raw and exposed and
should therefore be mocked, belittled, laughed at, celebrated, and
honored. Especially in the presence of the few remaining survivors.
The survivors are now old prunes who have senile dementia, but there
is still a tear available behind their eyes should you wish to drag
it out. You should see the heavy silence many of them fall into at
the mention of their tattoos.
The depth of psychic torment is astounding to observe and thrilling
to belittle...the hurt can turn to anger and the careful selection
of statements such as "Auschwitz? What's the big deal? You should
have been there in college when I was broke and couldn't pay the
rent!
I had nothing to eat but mac and cheese! Try THAT for hunger!".
The rage within old people is surprising.
Belittling the holocaust provides a wonderful pleasure that denying
the holocaust simply doesn't provide. Laughing at Schindlers List
or The Sorrow and The Pity is more productive than protesting
outside
the cinema.
Best of all, by belittling it, you scare people into thinking that
the lesson has not been learned, and you cause them to fear. Fear
in others is it's own reward.
Jews in America are not interested what their Jewish Brethrens do to
Palestinians. They only want you read what the Germans Supposedly have
done to the Jews.
Kurt Knoll.
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| User: "amigocabal" |
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05 Jan 2004 10:40:33 PM |
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"Kurt Knoll" <kknoll@uniserve.com> wrote in message
news:1073326779.930744@critter.monarch.net...
"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
news:XwcKb.25585$IM3.20447@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
HOW ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST PERPETRATED BY THE JEWS UPON THE RUSSIANS AND
PALESTINIANS? DOES THAT HOLOCAUST MEAN ANYTHING?
"Pal Charpton" <palcharpton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9cd1f6ab.0401041624.7dc9b998@posting.google.com...
Holocaust denial is ignorant. They wish to erase a historical moral
fault that might be held against them. They want to deny the jews
a historical moral victory. They want to deny the jews their
"victimhood"
so that they can be victims too.
I have a better idea. I love that the holocaust occoured, because
it was an intensive event of de-humanization and mind-stunning
brutality.
It deeply shames even those who were not yet alive at the time. It
defines jews, especially "secular" ones more than their
formal religious narrative does. It is a nerve, raw and exposed and
should therefore be mocked, belittled, laughed at, celebrated, and
honored. Especially in the presence of the few remaining survivors.
The survivors are now old prunes who have senile dementia, but there
is still a tear available behind their eyes should you wish to drag
it out. You should see the heavy silence many of them fall into at
the mention of their tattoos.
The depth of psychic torment is astounding to observe and thrilling
to belittle...the hurt can turn to anger and the careful selection
of statements such as "Auschwitz? What's the big deal? You should
have been there in college when I was broke and couldn't pay the
rent!
I had nothing to eat but mac and cheese! Try THAT for hunger!".
The rage within old people is surprising.
Belittling the holocaust provides a wonderful pleasure that denying
the holocaust simply doesn't provide. Laughing at Schindlers List
or The Sorrow and The Pity is more productive than protesting
outside
the cinema.
Best of all, by belittling it, you scare people into thinking that
the lesson has not been learned, and you cause them to fear. Fear
in others is it's own reward.
Jews in America are not interested what their Jewish Brethrens do to
Palestinians. They only want you read what the Germans Supposedly have
done to the Jews.
Kurt Knoll.
And do Jews know how to lie. The latest is that germans killed 2 million
Jews in Auschwitz, a camp which existed only 800 days. Which would mean that
germans disposed of 108 kikes every hour! Some efficiency!
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| User: "Rockboy" |
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| Title: Re: BELITTLE THE HOLOCAUST |
05 Jan 2004 11:29:08 PM |
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amigocabal wrote:
And do Jews know how to lie. The latest is that germans killed 2 million
Jews in Auschwitz, a camp which existed only 800 days. Which would mean that
germans disposed of 108 kikes every hour! Some efficiency!
That's a lie? I could have sworn that was the point of death camps...
--
Rockboy
I think my life is passing me by
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| User: "amigocabal" |
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06 Jan 2004 09:55:08 PM |
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"Rockboy" <rockboy@rockboy.net> wrote in message
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amigocabal wrote:
And do Jews know how to lie. The latest is that germans killed 2 million
Jews in Auschwitz, a camp which existed only 800 days. Which would mean
that
germans disposed of 108 kikes every hour! Some efficiency!
That's a lie? I could have sworn that was the point of death camps...
No, the point of the camps were the factories surrounding the camps. If
Germans brought them there to kill they would not have had factories around
the camps. What a moron!
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Rockboy
I think my life is passing me by
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| User: "Rockboy" |
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06 Jan 2004 09:57:21 PM |
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amigocabal wrote:
No, the point of the camps were the factories surrounding the camps. If
Germans brought them there to kill they would not have had factories around
the camps.
Why not?
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Rockboy
I think my life is passing me by
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: BELITTLE THE HOLOCAUST |
06 Jan 2004 11:33:22 PM |
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"Rockboy" <rockboy@rockboy.net> wrote in message
news:BsLKb.86800$6b2.16567@edtnps84...
amigocabal wrote:
No, the point of the camps were the factories surrounding the camps. If
Germans brought them there to kill they would not have had factories
around
the camps.
Why not?
In fact, what better camouflage could they have? The fact that they were
being used as slave labor not only doesn't contradict the killing aspect of
it, it aids it; it's easier to kill someone if you work them to death in
addition to starving them.
Susan
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| User: "Mickey" |
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05 Jan 2004 06:56:45 AM |
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"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
news:XwcKb.25585$IM3.20447@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
HOW ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST PERPETRATED BY THE JEWS UPON THE RUSSIANS AND
PALESTINIANS? DOES THAT HOLOCAUST MEAN ANYTHING?
No see, it's like this Alex. People here talk about things that actually
happened, not things you made up due to the fact that your brain is rotted
from the various diseases you have contracted from that Arab ***** you
married. You know, the one that left you when she found out you were
diddling small boys.
Mickey
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| User: "amigocabal" |
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05 Jan 2004 10:37:30 PM |
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
news:XwcKb.25585$IM3.20447@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
HOW ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST PERPETRATED BY THE JEWS UPON THE RUSSIANS AND
PALESTINIANS? DOES THAT HOLOCAUST MEAN ANYTHING?
JEWS MURDERED 100 MILLION RUSSIANS, AND 2 MILLION PALESTINIANS AND THEY
BUILD A MEMORIAL TO THE FUCKING JEWS!
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| User: "tim gueguen" |
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05 Jan 2004 11:19:57 PM |
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"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
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HOW ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST PERPETRATED BY THE JEWS UPON THE RUSSIANS AND
PALESTINIANS? DOES THAT HOLOCAUST MEAN ANYTHING?
JEWS MURDERED 100 MILLION RUSSIANS,
No, Communism resulted in the death of people in the territories of the
Soviet Union, and most Soviet Communists were not Jews, like that charming
ex Orthodox seminary student Mr. Stalin.
tim gueguen 101867
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| User: "amigocabal" |
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06 Jan 2004 09:51:05 PM |
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"tim gueguen" <tgueguen@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
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"Mickey" <mickeyb@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message
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HOW ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST PERPETRATED BY THE JEWS UPON THE RUSSIANS
AND
PALESTINIANS? DOES THAT HOLOCAUST MEAN ANYTHING?
JEWS MURDERED 100 MILLION RUSSIANS,
No, Communism resulted in the death of people in the territories of the
Soviet Union, and most Soviet Communists were not Jews, like that charming
ex Orthodox seminary student Mr. Stalin.
Try telling that to a Russian on New Arbat in Moscow while you are wearing
your kippa!
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| User: "Mekkala" |
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05 Jan 2004 01:18:42 PM |
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On 04 Jan 2004, (Pal Charpton) screwed up his face,
groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:9cd1f6ab.0401041624.7dc9b998@posting.google.com:
You're a very sad person. You're so pathetically miserable and unfulfilled
that you can't get your kicks any other way than by causing other people
pain. You should be put out of your misery by the first kind soul with a
shotgun who crosses your path.
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"Atheism is ... the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
--Emmett F. Fields
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| User: "amigocabal" |
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| Title: Re: BELITTLE THE HOLOCAUST |
05 Jan 2004 07:07:00 PM |
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"Mekkala" <joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:Xns946787B21795Mekkala@199.45.49.11...
On 04 Jan 2004, (Pal Charpton) screwed up his
face,
groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:9cd1f6ab.0401041624.7dc9b998@posting.google.com:
You're a very sad person. You're so pathetically miserable and
unfulfilled
that you can't get your kicks any other way than by causing other people
pain. You should be put out of your misery by the first kind soul with a
shotgun who crosses your path.
Instead of criticizing the mesenger explain what is wrong with the message!
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| User: "Mekkala" |
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| Title: Re: BELITTLE THE HOLOCAUST |
06 Jan 2004 09:39:13 AM |
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On 05 Jan 2004, "amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> screwed up
his face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:USnKb.11075$6B.2860@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net:
"Mekkala" <joremovedathiskimtoreply@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:Xns946787B21795Mekkala@199.45.49.11...
On 04 Jan 2004, (Pal Charpton) screwed up his
face,
groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:9cd1f6ab.0401041624.7dc9b998@posting.google.com:
You're a very sad person. You're so pathetically miserable and
unfulfilled
that you can't get your kicks any other way than by causing other
people pain. You should be put out of your misery by the first kind
soul with a shotgun who crosses your path.
Instead of criticizing the mesenger explain what is wrong with the
message!
Do some research on "The Treaty of Man"... I won't tell you who or where
since (after displaying such frightful ignorance of what makes society
"tick") you could certainly use some actual study. After you do that,
come back here and let me know if you still don't understand what's
wrong with behaving in that manner.
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"Atheism is ... the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
--Emmett F. Fields
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enlightened me with:
Best of all, by belittling it, you scare people into thinking that
the lesson has not been learned, and you cause them to fear. Fear
in others is it's own reward.
The unforeseen downside is that now a lot of left-wing people can't
let a day go by without comparing someone to Hitler. That gets a
little old, I'll tell you.
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Feel the burning stare of my hamster and change your ways!
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On 4 Jan 2004 16:24:33 -0800, (Pal Charpton)
enlightened me with:
Best of all, by belittling it, you scare people into thinking that
the lesson has not been learned, and you cause them to fear. Fear
in others is it's own reward.
The unforeseen downside is that now a lot of left-wing people can't
let a day go by without comparing someone to Hitler. That gets a
little old, I'll tell you.
H
The problem is that not every Holocaust is the subject to our reexamination!
The Christian Crusades have cost millions of lives and they have never been
condemned by the Churches. Jews slaughtered 100 million Russians during the
1917-1990 period and their Holocaust has not even been recognized.
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"Hank" <hanksname@NOSPAMgeocities.com> wrote in message
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On 4 Jan 2004 16:24:33 -0800, (Pal Charpton)
enlightened me with:
Best of all, by belittling it, you scare people into thinking that
the lesson has not been learned, and you cause them to fear. Fear
in others is it's own reward.
The unforeseen downside is that now a lot of left-wing people can't
let a day go by without comparing someone to Hitler. That gets a
little old, I'll tell you.
H
The problem is that not every Holocaust is the subject to our
reexamination!
The Christian Crusades have cost millions of lives and they have never
been
condemned by the Churches. Jews slaughtered 100 million Russians during
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1917-1990 period and their Holocaust has not even been recognized.
Millions of lives? THEY WERE ARABS, you idiot.
Mickey
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"Hank" <hanksname@NOSPAMgeocities.com> wrote in message
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On 4 Jan 2004 16:24:33 -0800, (Pal Charpton)
enlightened me with:
Best of all, by belittling it, you scare people into thinking that
the lesson has not been learned, and you cause them to fear. Fear
in others is it's own reward.
The unforeseen downside is that now a lot of left-wing people can't
let a day go by without comparing someone to Hitler. That gets a
little old, I'll tell you.
H
The problem is that not every Holocaust is the subject to our reexamination!
The Christian Crusades have cost millions of lives and they have never been
condemned by the Churches. Jews slaughtered 100 million Russians during the
1917-1990 period and their Holocaust has not even been recognized.
The following list of major Gentile Communist figures
was compiled for satiric purposes, but I tried to make
it as accurate as possible.
So here it is: an answer to all the net-Nazis
who try to convince us that the major Communist figures
were "mainly" or "mostly" or "almost exclusively" Jewish.
What follows contains no polemic, but only facts
(aside from a few snide observations). So
without further ado, the list that pushes back
the last frontier of ignorance, the list of
COMMIE GOYIM!!!!!!!
François Noël Babeuf ("French revolutionary, organizer of
a communist uprising against the Directory . . . he formed
a secret society that plotted to overthrow the government;
it became known as the Conspiracy of the Equals . . . ."
"Although many thinkers in the past expressed ideas that
were similar to later socialism, the first theorist
who may properly be called socialist was François Noël
Babeuf . . . ." Columbia Encyclopedia, articles on Babeuf
and Socialism)
Louis Auguste Blanqui ("Inspired by Babeuf, [Blanqui] coined the
phrase 'dictatorship of the proletariat' and devoted
his life to achieveing it through conspiratorial means. . ."
Pipes, Conspiracy, p. 78.)
Etienne Cabet (French Socialist, author of Voyage en Icarie,
the word "communism" was initially associated with his
ideas)
Engels (Never forget that Das Kapital was written in German
by two guys named Karl and Friedrich.)
BOLSHEVIKS:
Alexander Bogdanov (Important early Bolshevik theorist, Had broken
with Lenin by the time of the revolution.)
Lenin (5th on Rudolph Rummel's list of the "This Century's Bloodiest
Dictators" http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/DBG.TAB1.4.GIF )
Stalin (Most blood-stained person who ever lived, #1 on Rummel's list)
Georgi Konstantinovich "Sergo" Ordzhonikidze (Soviet leader
in Armenia and Georgia, Politburo member under Stalin, Beria
and Mikoyan both named sons "Sergo" after him)
Felix Dzerzhinsky (Founder, in 1918, of the Checka secret
police agency, precursor organization of the GPU, OGPU, NKVD,
and KGB)
Nikolai Bukharin (Major Bolshevik theoretician, Politburo Member,
Editor of Pravda)
Lev Borisovich Kamenev (Member of the Original Politburo,
Often mistakenly identified as a Jew although mother was non-Jew,
Originally sided with Stalin and Zinoviev against Trotsky but
forced out by Stalin along with Zinoviev in 1926)
Anatoli Vasilyevich Lunacharsky (Revolutionary, Literary Figure,
Commissar of Education 1917–29)
Nikolai N. Krestinski (Member of First Politburo along with Lenin,
Stalin, Kamenev, and Trotsky)
Georgi Vasilyevich Chicherin (Foreign Comissar/Minister,
succeeding Trotsky, until 1928)
Aleksey Ivanovich Rykov (Commissar for the Interior after 1917,
Politburo member under Lenin and Stalin, Premier from 1924-1931,
Sided with Stalin against Zinoviev, Kamenev, and Trotsky but
fell afoul of Stalin shortly afterwards)
Mikhail Ivanovich Kalinin (Chairman of Central Executive Committee
1919-1946, Politburo Member 1925-46)
Vladimir Antonov-Ovseenko ("Leading Bolshevik. Commanded storming of
Winter Palace in october 1917; held important military, political,
legal and diplomatic posts after Revolution. Disappeared during
purges" All Stalin's Men, p. 173)
Nadezhda Konstantinovna Krupskaya (Mrs. Lenin, Prominent Bolshevik)
Aleksandra Mikhailovna Kollontai (Prominent Bolshevik, Feminist,
People's Commissar for Welfare)
Alexander Shlyapnikov (People's Commissar for Labor until Oct.
1918, later Central Committee Member, Leader--with Kollontai--
of "Worker's Opposition")
Nikolai Vasilyevich Krylenko (Military comissar and
later heavily involved in political trials and purges
until he was purged hinmself in 1938)
Inessa Armand (Prominent Bolshevik, Feminist, Lenin's Mistress)
STALIN'S RULE:
Kliment Voroshilov (Active Bolshevik prior to revolution,
Major Red Army commander during civil war, Close associate
of Stalin, Politburo Member under Stalin, Out of favor under
Khruschev, restored to Central Committee in 1966)
Vyacheslav Rudolfovich Menzhinsky (Succeeded Dzerzhinsky as head
of NKVD in 1926)
Nikolai Yezhov (Head of NKVD 1936-1938, replacing Yagoda,
Wave of terror known as "Yezhovshchina")
Lavrenti Beria (Head of Soviet Georgia and Transcaucasia,
Head of NKVD from 1938 until Stalin's Death, Probably second
most powerful figure in Stalin's government for much
of that time and certainly the most hated and feared,
Deputy Premier under Malenkov)
Nikolai Bulganin (Defense Minister under Stalin, briefly
succeeded Malenkov as Premier)
Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev
Vyacheslav Mikhailovich Molotov (Early editor of Pravda prior
to revolution, Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars
after Rykov, then Foreign Minister, negotiated non-agression pact
between Soviets and Nazi Germany, According to Roy Medvedev,
"In 1932 he played a particularly sinister part in the
Ukraine, where he directed the state grain-procurement
opeations in the southern provinces; after his intervention
the southern Ukraine was gripped by a terrible famine that
carried off millions," All Stalin's Men, p. 87)
Georgi Maksimilianovich Malenkov (Politburo member, Deputy
Premier under Stalin, briefly succeeded Stalin as Premier)
Mikhail Tomsky (Politburo Member, Trade Union Leader,
Another major figure in the power struggles that
eventually led to the consolidation of Stalin's power)
Andrei Aleksandrovich Zhdanov (Central Committee Secretary,
Rival of Malenkov, Anti-Semite)
Stanislav Vikent'evich Kosior (Ukrainian First Secretary,
Reported to have said the following: " . . . the peasant
is adopting a new tactic. He refuses to reap the harvest.
He wants the bread grain to die in order to choke the
Soviet government with the bony hand of famine. We will
show him what famine is." Harvest of Sorrow, p. 221)
Pavel Petrovich Postyshev ("Postyshev was, in fact, Stalin's
effective plenipotenitary in the task of 'Bolshevizing' the
Ukrainian party and extracting further grain from the
starving Ukrainian villages" Harvest of Sorrow, p. 241.)
Grigori Ivanovich Petrovsky ("When a factory official told Petrovsky
that his employees were talking of five million people having already
died and asked what he should tell them, he is quoted as answering,
'Tell them nothing! What they say is true. We know millions are dying.
That is unfortunate, but the glorious future of the Soviet Union will
justify that. Tell them nothing!'" Harvest of Sorrow, p. 325.)
Anastas Ivanovich Mikoyan (Armenian Communist Party head,
Chairman of the USSR Supreme Soviet Presidium, Politburo
member.)
Sergei Mironovich Kirov (Active in Party from Civil War, Politburo
Member under Stalin, Stalin used his assassination--which he probably
ordered himself--as a pretext for getting rid of Zinoviev, Rykov, and
Kamenev.)
Andrei Yanuarievich Vyshinsky (Chief Prosecutor of Soviet Union
1935-1939)
OTHER POLITBURO MEMBERS UNDER STALIN:
Valerian Vladimirovich Kuibyshev
Vlas Yakovlevich Chubar'
Yan Ernestovich Rudzutak
Aleksandr Sergeevich Shcherbakov
Andrei Andreevich Andreev
Nikolai Aleksandrovich Uglanov
Robert Ivanovich Eikhe
Sergei I. Syrtsov
NKVD OFFICIALS--BERIA PROTEGES (KNOWN AS "BERIA'S GANG"):
Bogdan Kobulov (Deputy head of NKVD under Beria, with Serov oversaw
deportation of Crimean Tartars and other national groups,
Involved in day-to-day operation of the Gulag)
Ivan Aleksandrovich Serov (Deputy Head of NKVD along with Kobulov,
Head of KGB 1954-1958 "Ivan Serov was awarded the Order of Suvorov,
First Class, reserved for major victories in the field, on March 9
1944--that is, immediately after the largest of his deportation
operations, that of the Chechen-Ingush. He was later made a
Hero of the Soviet Union and received a number of other orders."
Conquest, The Nation Killers, p. 82)
Vsevolod Nikolayevich Merkulov (Head of NKGB 1941-1946, briefly head
of MGB in 1946)
Sergei Goglidze (Head of Leningrad NKVD, Later Deputy Minister
of State Security and Chief of Third Directorate of MGB)
Vladimir Dekanozov (Head of GUGB Foreign Department,
1953 Minister MVD Georgia)
Lavrentii Tsanava (1921-33 Checka-OGPU in Caucasus,
1938-1952 Head of Belorussia NKVD)
Grigorii Karanadze ( Head of Crimea NKVD 1938-1942,
1952 People's Commissar NKVD/MVD Georgia)
Aleksei Sadzhaia (Head of Uzbekistan NKVD)
Amaiak Kobulov (Brother of Bogdan, Head of Ukraine NKVD 1939,
NKVD Uzbekistan 1943)
Mikhail Gvishiani (Head of Far East NKVD, His son Dzhermen--
named after Dzerzhinsky and Menzhinsky--was married to Kosygin's
daughter)
Avksentii Rapava (1941-1948 Head of Georgia NKVD then NKGB, MGB)
M. D. Bagirov (Head of the Communist Party in Azerbaijan)
MVD-MGB-KGB OFFICIALS:
Sergei Kruglov (Briefly head of NKVD, MVD first deputy, Major
subordinate of Beria, but joined Khrushchev against Beria)
Viktor Semyonovich Abakumov (Head of MGB 1946-1951, Technically
another of Beria's subordinates, but independ
nt of Beria and a rival
to Merkulov)
Sergey Ogoltsov (Head of MGB July 14 1951 - August 9 1951)
Semyon Denisovich Ignatiyev (Head of MGB 1951-1953, Since
he had been part of the Zhdanov faction, his appointment
was a blow to Beria)
Aleksandr Nikolayevich Shelepin (Head of KGB 1958-1961,
Supported Khrushchev's rise to power and was also involved
in his removal)
Vladimir Yefimovich Semichastniy (Head of KGB 1961-1967,
Also heavily involved in Khrushchev's removal)
[See "LATER USSR FIGURES" for Andropov]
Vitaliy Vasilyevich Fedorchuk (Head of KGB May 26 1982 - December 17
1982)
Viktor Mikhaylovich Chebrikov (Head of KGB 1982-1988)
Vladimir Aleksandrovich Kryuchkov (Head of KGB 1988-1991)
LATER USSR FIGURES:
Mikhail Andreyevich Suslov (Ideological watchdog maintaining purity of
communist doctrine, Central Committee member from 1941, Supported both
Khruschev's rise to power and his downfall)
Leonid Ilyich Brezhnev
Alexei Nikolayevich Kosygin (Succeeded Khrushchev as Premier in 1964,
initially shared power with Brezhnev although power later declined)
Yuri Vladimirovich Andropov (Head of KGB 1967-1982, General Secretary
of Communist Party 1982-1984)
(See: http://edwardjayepstein.com/archived/andropov.htm)
Konstantin Chernenko (Party General Secretary and Chairman of
Presiduim after Andropov's death)
Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev (Chernenko's successor)
MISCELLANEOUS:
Josip Broz Tito (9th on Rummel's list of "This Century's
Century's Bloodiest Dictators")
Aleksandar Rankovic (Tito's second in command 1948-1966)
Vulko Chervenkov (Dictator of Bulgaria 1950-1956)
Todor Zhikov (Dictator of Bulgaria 1956-1989)
Mao Tse-Tung (2nd on Rummel's list)
Zhou Enlai (Chinese Premier 1949-1976)
Zhu De (Military leader and later Deputy Chairman of Communist China)
Lin Biao (Second only to Mao in China in the late 60's, Compiler of
the Little Red Book)
Liu Shaoqi (Mao's leading deputy in 50's and early 60's)
Kang Sheng (Chinese Secret Police Chief)
Jiang Qing (Mrs. Mao, the rest of the "Gang of Four" follow)
Wang Hongwen
Yao Wenyuan
Zhang Chunqiao
Deng Xiaoping ( http://www.laogai.org/comment/dissent.htm )
Pol Pot (7th on Rummel's list)
Nuon Chea (Deputy General Secretary of Cambodia's
Communist Party, Number Two man in Pol Pot's regime, heavily
implicated in torture, mass-murder, and repression)
Ieng Sary (Pol Pot's brother-in-law, Minister of Foreign Affairs)
Khieu Samphan (Cambodian Head of State under Pol Pot)
János Kádár (Head of Communist Hungary 1956-1988)
Boleslaw Bierut (Leader of Communist Poland:
President of Communist Poland 1947-1952,
First Secretary of Central Committee 1948-1956)
Józef Cyrankiewicz (Polish Politburo member 1948-1971,
Prime Minister 1947-1952, Deputy Premier 1952-1954,
Prime Minister 1954-1970)
Marian Spychalski (Polish General, PPR-PUWP
Politburo member 1945-1949, 1959-1970)
Zenon Nowak (Polish Central Committee, Politburo
member, Secretary of Central Committee 1950-1954,
Deputy Premier until 1968)
Stanislaw Radkiewicz (Polish Minister of Public Security
1945-1954)
Wladyslaw Gomulka (Head of Communist Poland 1956-1970)
Edward Gierek (Head of Communist Poland 1970-1980)
Gheorgehe Gheorghiu-Dej (According to Dennis Deletant,
instituted "police terror" in Communist Romania)
Nicolae Ceausescu (Dej's successor, Head of Communist Romania
1965-1989--why are so many of these guys named "Nikolai"?)
Elena Ceaucescu (Ceaucescu's wife, major figure in Ceaucescu's
government, promoted cult of personality surrounding Ceaucescu)
Tudor Postelnicu (Promoted to Interior Minister of Romania in 1987,
head of dreaded Securitate security service up to that point)
Iulian Vlad (Following Postelnicu's promotion, succeeded him
as Head of Securitate)
George Nicolae Doicaru (Head of Securitate at time of 1978 defection
of
Ion Pacepa)
Walter Ulbricht (Head of East Germany 1950-1971, Built Berlin Wall,
sent troops to help Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia)
Erich Honecker (Succeeded Ulbricht)
Wilhelm Zaisser (Head of Stasi 1950-1953)
Ernst Wollweber (Head of Stasi 1953-1957)
Erich Mielke (Head of Stasi 1957-1989)
Willi Stoph (East German Politburo Member, Minister of Internal
Affairs and Minister for National Defense during 1950's, became
Chairman of Council of Ministers in 1964)
Mengistu Haile Mariam (Communist dictator of Ethiopia 1977-1991,
When the Soviet regime collapsed, so did his.)
Fidel Castro
Raul Castro (Fidel's younger brother and designated heir, Defence
Minister)
Felipe Perez Roque (Cuban Foreign Affairs Minister)
Carlos Lage (Cuban Vice President)
Kim Il Sung (Head of North Korea 1948–94)
Kim Jong Il (Son of the above)
Kim Yong Nam (Presidium President of the Democratic People's
Republic of Korea Supreme People's Assembly, i.e. Kim Jong
Il's second in command--not to be confused with Kim Jong Nam,
KJI's now out-of-favor oldest son)
Jang Song Thaek (KJI's brother in law--Deputy Head
of the Korean Central Committee)
Fusako Shigenobu (Head of Japanese Red Army)
Andreas Baader, Ulrike Meinhof (Baader-Meinhof Gang)
William Z. Foster (U.S. Communist party candidate for President 1924,
1928, 1932)
Earl Russell Browder (U.S. Communist party candidate for President
1936, 1940)
Gus Hall (U.S. Communist Party candidate for President 1972, 1976,
1980, 1984)
Jarvis Tyner (Hall's running mate in 1972 and 1976)
Angela Davis (Civil rights activist and philosopher, Gus Hall's
vice-presidential candidate in 1980 and 1984.)
Enver Hoxha (Leader of Communist Albania 1946-1985)
Ramiz Alia (Hoxha's successor)
Klement Gottwald (President of Communist Czechoslovakia 1948-1953)
Gustave Husak (Leader of Czechoslovakia after suppression of
"Prague Spring.")
Otto Vilgelmovich Kuusinen (Finnish communist, exiled
to the USSR after Finnish independence was consolidated
following WW I and the civil war that ensued, headed failed
Soviet-supported bogus Terijojki government after Soviet
attack on Finland in 1939, eventually rose to be the only
foreign-born member of the Soviet Politburo.)
Hertta Kuusinen (Finnish communist leader, Otto's
daughter, In a notorious 1948 speech shortly after
the communist take-over in Czechoslovakia she
stated "Czechoslovakia's way will be our way.")
Antanas Snieckus (Grand old man of Lithuanian communism,
Lived in exile in the USSR, but tried repeatedly to subvert
the Lithuanian state. Lithuanian Communist Party head after
country incorporated into USSR. Defied Moscow
and built his own brand of Lithuanian communism.)
Arvid Yanovich Pelshe (Latvian Communist Party head, head
of the Soviet Communist Party Control Committee and responsible
for internal migration policies, including deportations,
ethnic dilutions, and policies leading to de facto
Russification of non-Russian republics)
Renato Curcio (Red Brigades)
Alberto Franceschini (Red Brigades)
Mario Moretti (Red Brigades, negotiated mutual aid pact with PLO)
Ho Chi Minh
Do Muoi (Became General Secretary of Vietnamese Communist Party in
1991)
Le Kha Phieu (Became General Secretary of Vietnamese
Communist Party in 1997)
Nong Duc Manh (Current General Secretary of Vietnamese Commuunist
Party)
Ilich Ramirez Sanchez, "Carlos the Jackal"
Ernesto Che Guevara
George Habash, PFLP
Wadi Haddad, PFLP
Leila Khaled, PFLP
BIBLIOGRAPHY
Albats, Yevgenia. The State Within a State: The KGB and
Its Hold on Russia--Past, Present, and Future. New York:
Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 1994
Conquest, Robert. Harvest of Sorrow: Soviet Collectivization
and the Terror-Famine. Oxford, 1986.
-----. Inside Stalin's Secret Police: NKVD Politics 1936-1939.
Stanford University, Hoover Institution Press, 1985.
-----. Kolyma: The Arctic Death Camps. Viking Press, 1978.
-----. The Nation Killers: The Soviet Deportation of Nationalities.
MacMillan, 1960.
Courtois, Stephane, et. al. The Black Book of Communism.
Harvard, 1999.
Deletant, Dennis. Ceausescu and the Securitate: Coercion
and Dissent in Romania, 1965-1989.
Armonk, N.Y.: M. E. Sharpe, 1995
Jansen, Marc and Nikita Petrov. Stalin's Loyal Executioner:
People's Commissar Nikolai Ezhov 1895-1940.
Stanford University, Hoover Institution Press, 2002.
Knight, Amy. Beria: Stalin's first Lieutenant. Princeton, 1993.
Medvedev, Roy. All Stalin's Men: Six Who Carried Out the Bloody
Policies. Trans. Harold Shukman. Anchor Press/Doubleday, 1984.
Pipes, Daniel. Conspiracy: How the Paranoid Style Flourishes and Where
it Comes From. The Free Press, 1997
Pipes, Richard. A Concise History of the Russian Revolution.
Vintage Books, 1996.
Rummel, R. J. Death by Government. Transaction, 1994.
Service, Robert. Lenin: A Biography. Harvard, 2000.
Toronska, Teresa. "Them": Stalin's Polish Puppets.
New York: Harper and Row, 1987.
WEB SOURCES RELEVANT TO MORE THAN ONE ENTRY:
Source for MGB, KGB entries: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/KGB
Columbia Encyclopedia: http://www.encyclopedia.com/
Rummel's List: http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/DBG.TAB1.4.GIF
Who was Who in Poland: http://polish-jewish-heritage.org/Eng/prl.htm
APPENDIX 1
According to Benjamin Pinkus (The Jews of the Soviet Union,
Cambridge University Press, 1988, p. 83.):
"If we take all three sectors of the administration,
it emerges that of the 417 people who constituted the
ruling elite of the Soviet Union in the mid 1920s (the
members of the Central Executive Committee, the Party
Central Committee, the Presidium of the Executive of the
Soviets of the USSR and the Russian Republic, the Ministers,
and the Chairman of the Executive Committee),
twenty-seven (that is 6%) were Jews."
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(Thanks to Eugene Holman for entries on Mikoyan, Suslov,
the Kuusinens, Pelshe, Snieckus, and Angela Davis)
Hope you enjoyed it,
Yitz
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(Yitzchak Goodman) wrote in message news:<c338b5c0.0401071939.19663fef@posting.google.com>...
"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message news:<tGcKb.25597$IM3.10849@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
"Hank" <hanksname@NOSPAMgeocities.com> wrote in message
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On 4 Jan 2004 16:24:33 -0800, (Pal Charpton)
enlightened me with:
Best of all, by belittling it, you scare people into thinking that
the lesson has not been learned, and you cause them to fear. Fear
in others is it's own reward.
The unforeseen downside is that now a lot of left-wing people can't
let a day go by without comparing someone to Hitler. That gets a
little old, I'll tell you.
H
The problem is that not every Holocaust is the subject to our reexamination!
The Christian Crusades have cost millions of lives and they have never been
condemned by the Churches. Jews slaughtered 100 million Russians during the
1917-1990 period and their Holocaust has not even been recognized.
The following list of major Gentile Communist figures
was compiled for satiric purposes, but I tried to make
it as accurate as possible.
So here it is: an answer to all the net-Nazis
who try to convince us that the major Communist figures
were "mainly" or "mostly" or "almost exclusively" Jewish.
Not only were communist leaders/controllers in the Russian revolution
Jewish, but a new group out of Russia is predominantly Jewish and very
dangerous.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/special_report/1998/03/98/russian_mafia/69521.stm
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yitzgood@lycos.com (Yitzchak Goodman) wrote in message news:<c338b5c0.0401071939.19663fef@posting.google.com>...
"amigocabal" <pinkspider123@earthlink.com> wrote in message news:<tGcKb.25597$IM3.10849@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
"Hank" <hanksname@NOSPAMgeocities.com> wrote in message
news:lvjhvv8qra0eppmqjee90omfqone2dvp6a@4ax.com...
On 4 Jan 2004 16:24:33 -0800, (Pal Charpton)
enlightened me with:
Best of all, by belittling it, you scare people into thinking that
the lesson has not been learned, and you cause them to fear. Fear
in others is it's own reward.
The unforeseen downside is that now a lot of left-wing people can't
let a day go by without comparing someone to Hitler. That gets a
little old, I'll tell you.
H
The problem is that not every Holocaust is the subject to our reexamination!
The Christian Crusades have cost millions of lives and they have never been
condemned by the Churches. Jews slaughtered 100 million Russians during the
1917-1990 period and their Holocaust has not even been recognized.
The following list of major Gentile Communist figures
was compiled for satiric purposes, but I tried to make
it as accurate as possible.
So here it is: an answer to all the net-Nazis
who try to convince us that the major Communist figures
were "mainly" or "mostly" or "almost exclusively" Jewish.
Not only were communist leaders/controllers in the Russian revolution
Jewish,
I have become concerned recently that the list of COMMIE GOYIM
has become bloated and unwieldy due to the addition of so
many deserving historical figures and brief descriptions
of their "achievements." Therefore, in the interests of
brevity, here is the short version:
FrançoisBabeuf,LouisBlanqui,
Engels,Lenin,Stalin,Dzerzhinsky,Menzhinsky,
Bukharin,Kamenev,Lunacharsky,
Chicherin,Beria,Yezhov,Bulganin,
Khrushchev,Molotov,Malenkov,Rykov,
Tomsky,Voroshilov,Kalinin,Kirov,Kobulov,
Serov,Merkulov,Abakumov,Ogoltsov,
Ignatiyev,Shelepin,Semichastniy,
Fedorchuk,Chebrikov,Kryuchkov,Brezhnev,
Kosygin,Andropov,Chernenko,Tito,
Rankovic,Chervenkov,Zhikov,Mao,PolPot,
HoChiMinh,Kádár,Gomulka,Gheorghiu-Dej,
Ceausescu,ElenaCeucescu,Postelnicu,Vlad,
Doicaru,DengXiaoping,JiangQing,
WangHongwen,YaoWenyuan,ZhangChunqiao,
Ulbricht,Honecker,Mielke,WilhelmZaisser,
ErnstWollweber,WilliStoph,
Castro,KimIlSung,KimJongIl,
FusakoShigenobu,Baader,Meinhof,
GusHall,WilliamZFoster,EarlBrowder,
JarvisTyner,Hoxha,Husak,OttoKuusinen,
HerttaKuusinen,Snieckus,Mikoyan,Pelshe,
Suslov,AngelaDavis,RenatoCurcio,
AlbertoFranceschini,MarioMoretti,
DoMuoi,LeKhaPhieu,NongDucManh,
CarlosTheJackal,CheGuevara,
GeorgeHabash,WadiHaddad,LeilaKhaled
Yitz
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| User: "Hank" |
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| Title: Re: BELITTLE THE HOLOCAUST |
05 Jan 2004 10:34:35 AM |
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On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 12:22:49 GMT, "amigocabal"
<pinkspider123@earthlink.com> enlightened me with:
"Hank" <hanksname@NOSPAMgeocities.com> wrote in message
news:lvjhvv8qra0eppmqjee90omfqone2dvp6a@4ax.com...
On 4 Jan 2004 16:24:33 -0800, (Pal Charpton)
enlightened me with:
Best of all, by belittling it, you scare people into thinking that
the lesson has not been learned, and you cause them to fear. Fear
in others is it's own reward.
The unforeseen downside is that now a lot of left-wing people can't
let a day go by without comparing someone to Hitler. That gets a
little old, I'll tell you.
H
The problem is that not every Holocaust is the subject to our reexamination!
The Christian Crusades have cost millions of lives and they have never been
condemned by the Churches. Jews slaughtered 100 million Russians during the
1917-1990 period and their Holocaust has not even been recognized.
100 million? Wow ... that's more than the Japanese in China,
the Russians ( in Russia ) and Hitler combined.
How did all those Jews sneak into Russia anyway? I figure
they killed 25 Russians for every Jew living in Israel, by your math.
That's really accomplishing something.
I didn't know this fact, of course. I assumed it was all
those bordering Muslim nations that were killing Russians, not the
Jews so far away. But it certainly lends credence to their later
slogans "Don't screw with a Jew" and "Pogrom This!!"
H
Feel the burning stare of my hamster and change your ways!
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| User: "amigocabal" |
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05 Jan 2004 10:35:29 PM |
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"Hank" <hanksname@NOSPAMgeocities.com> wrote in message
news:f84jvvopsohk1te9hteepubqkvhon1c7hb@4ax.com...
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 12:22:49 GMT, "amigocabal"
<pinkspider123@earthlink.com> enlightened me with:
"Hank" <hanksname@NOSPAMgeocities.com> wrote in message
news:lvjhvv8qra0eppmqjee90omfqone2dvp6a@4ax.com...
On 4 Jan 2004 16:24:33 -0800, (Pal Charpton)
enlightened me with:
Best of all, by belittling it, you scare people into thinking that
the lesson has not been learned, and you cause them to fear. Fear
in others is it's own reward.
The unforeseen downside is that now a lot of left-wing people can't
let a day go by without comparing someone to Hitler. That gets a
little old, I'll tell you.
H
The problem is that not every Holocaust is the subject to our
reexamination!
The Christian Crusades have cost millions of lives and they have never
been
condemned by the Churches. Jews slaughtered 100 million Russians during
the
1917-1990 period and their Holocaust has not even been recognized.
100 million? Wow ... that's more than the Japanese in China,
the Russians ( in Russia ) and Hitler combined.
How did all those Jews sneak into Russia anyway? I figure
they killed 25 Russians for every Jew living in Israel, by your math.
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IT IS NOT MY MATH. THOSE ARE THE OFFICIAL FIGURES, OF THE VICTIMS OF THE
RUSSIAN HOLOCAUST FOR WHICH JEWS WERE RESPONSIBLE.
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: BELITTLE THE HOLOCAUST |
05 Jan 2004 03:26:25 PM |
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"Hank" <hanksname@NOSPAMgeocities.com> wrote in message
news:f84jvvopsohk1te9hteepubqkvhon1c7hb@4ax.com...
On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 12:22:49 GMT, "amigocabal"
<pinkspider123@earthlink.com> enlightened me with:
The problem is that not every Holocaust is the subject to our
reexamination!
The Christian Crusades have cost millions of lives and they have never
been
condemned by the Churches. Jews slaughtered 100 million Russians during
the
1917-1990 period and their Holocaust has not even been recognized.
100 million?
Yes, out of 140 million people, & no one noticed but Alex.
Wow ... that's more than the Japanese in China,
the Russians ( in Russia ) and Hitler combined.
How did all those Jews sneak into Russia anyway? I figure
they killed 25 Russians for every Jew living in Israel, by your math.
That's really accomplishing something.
This is only the tip of the iceberg of his insane rantings.
Susan
I didn't know this fact, of course. I assumed it was all
those bordering Muslim nations that were killing Russians, not the
Jews so far away. But it certainly lends credence to their later
slogans "Don't screw with a Jew" and "Pogrom This!!"
H
Feel the burning stare of my hamster and change your ways!
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| User: "" |
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05 Jan 2004 02:20:49 AM |
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In soc.culture.jewish Hank <hanksname@nospamgeocities.com> wrote:
The unforeseen downside is that now a lot of left-wing people can't
let a day go by without comparing someone to Hitler. That gets a
little old, I'll tell you.
You're just saying that because you're a nazi.
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"The real meaning of the official US/Israel 'peace process' is a process
of entrapment in an apartheid system that encloses Palestinians in their
ghettos, denying them the possibility of real autonomous development"
-Rosemary Ruether, Catholic feminist theologian
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dswan@m3m3t1ccand1ru.com http://www.memeticcandiru.com
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| User: "raven1" |
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04 Jan 2004 09:15:02 PM |
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On 4 Jan 2004 16:24:33 -0800, (Pal Charpton)
wrote:
Best of all, by belittling it, you scare people into thinking that
the lesson has not been learned, and you cause them to fear. Fear
in others is it's own reward.
You must lead a truly pathetic life to be such an *****.
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| User: "John Pertwee" |
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04 Jan 2004 06:36:15 PM |
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On 4 Jan 2004 16:24:33 -0800, (Pal Charpton)
wrote:
Holocaust denial is ignorant. They wish to erase a historical moral
fault that might be held against them. They want to deny the jews
a historical moral victory. They want to deny the jews their "victimhood"
so that they can be victims too.
<snip>
Is there a new wrestling angle where someone is denying the holocaust
ever happened?
Or is this just off topic?
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