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25 Apr 2005 04:02:56 PM |
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Benedict prayed 'not to be Pope' |
From the article:
Pope Benedict XVI has revealed at an audience with pilgrims that he
prayed to God during conclave to spare him the "destiny" of becoming
Pope.
He had thought that at 78 his "life's work was finished and I was
expecting quieter years," he said.
"Evidently, this time [God] didn't listen to me."
Wonder why? ;-)
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25 Apr 2005 10:47:42 PM |
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"Pastor Ferdinna" <user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote in message
news:1114462976.366576.47480@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
From the article:
Pope Benedict XVI has revealed at an audience with pilgrims that he
prayed to God during conclave to spare him the "destiny" of becoming
Pope.
He had thought that at 78 his "life's work was finished and I was
expecting quieter years," he said.
So much for the power of prayer. god won't even listen to the prayers of his
top represenatives on Earth!!
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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26 Apr 2005 05:12:15 PM |
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On 25 Apr 2005 14:02:56 -0700, "Pastor Ferdinna"
<user13@heathens.org.uk> thought hard and wrote:
From the article:
Pope Benedict XVI has revealed at an audience with pilgrims that he
prayed to God during conclave to spare him the "destiny" of becoming
Pope.
He had thought that at 78 his "life's work was finished and I was
expecting quieter years," he said.
"Evidently, this time [God] didn't listen to me."
Wonder why? ;-)
Would be one of the few times that clergy does not want power.
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-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 17 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr Tveitt are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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25 Apr 2005 07:50:47 PM |
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On 25 Apr 2005 14:02:56 -0700, "Pastor Ferdinna"
<user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
From the article:
Pope Benedict XVI has revealed at an audience with pilgrims that he
prayed to God during conclave to spare him the "destiny" of becoming
Pope.
He had thought that at 78 his "life's work was finished and I was
expecting quieter years," he said.
"Evidently, this time [God] didn't listen to me."
Wonder why? ;-)
Classic.
'I didn't want the job but god said I had to do it. That means
everything I do is God's will.'
Jim Jones would be proud.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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26 Apr 2005 05:30:09 AM |
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 00:50:47 GMT, Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net>
wrote:
On 25 Apr 2005 14:02:56 -0700, "Pastor Ferdinna"
<user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
From the article:
Pope Benedict XVI has revealed at an audience with pilgrims that he
prayed to God during conclave to spare him the "destiny" of becoming
Pope.
He had thought that at 78 his "life's work was finished and I was
expecting quieter years," he said.
"Evidently, this time [God] didn't listen to me."
Wonder why? ;-)
Classic.
'I didn't want the job but god said I had to do it. That means
everything I do is God's will.'
Jim Jones would be proud.
Anybody believe his prayers not to be choosen was sincere?
Oh! come on!
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Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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| User: "Radical aeasterbunnyist" |
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26 Apr 2005 07:28:56 AM |
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The gates of alt.atheism slowly swung open, and there stood Les
Hellawell <myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com>,who intoned thus:
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 00:50:47 GMT, Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net>
wrote:
On 25 Apr 2005 14:02:56 -0700, "Pastor Ferdinna"
<user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
From the article:
Pope Benedict XVI has revealed at an audience with pilgrims that he
prayed to God during conclave to spare him the "destiny" of becoming
Pope.
He had thought that at 78 his "life's work was finished and I was
expecting quieter years," he said.
"Evidently, this time [God] didn't listen to me."
Wonder why? ;-)
Classic.
'I didn't want the job but god said I had to do it. That means
everything I do is God's will.'
Jim Jones would be proud.
Anybody believe his prayers not to be choosen was sincere?
Oh! come on!
Actually, I do. He'd seen what it was like to be pope, and how it
turns out. Rapidly encroaching decrepitude stripping his predecessor
of all diginity in a very public way.
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
Due to be prayed for by Gastrich 11.3.2011
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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26 Apr 2005 10:00:32 AM |
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:28:56 +0100, Radical aeasterbunnyist
<Kent.Hovis@answersinapigsear.org> wrote:
The gates of alt.atheism slowly swung open, and there stood Les
Hellawell <myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com>,who intoned thus:
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 00:50:47 GMT, Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net>
wrote:
On 25 Apr 2005 14:02:56 -0700, "Pastor Ferdinna"
<user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
From the article:
Pope Benedict XVI has revealed at an audience with pilgrims that he
prayed to God during conclave to spare him the "destiny" of becoming
Pope.
He had thought that at 78 his "life's work was finished and I was
expecting quieter years," he said.
"Evidently, this time [God] didn't listen to me."
Wonder why? ;-)
Classic.
'I didn't want the job but god said I had to do it. That means
everything I do is God's will.'
Jim Jones would be proud.
Anybody believe his prayers not to be choosen was sincere?
Oh! come on!
Actually, I do. He'd seen what it was like to be pope, and how it
turns out. Rapidly encroaching decrepitude stripping his predecessor
of all diginity in a very public way.
Have you seen him on TV? He's loving it!
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Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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| User: "Radical aeasterbunnyist" |
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26 Apr 2005 09:16:40 AM |
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The gates of alt.atheism slowly swung open, and there stood Les
Hellawell <myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com>,who intoned thus:
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 00:50:47 GMT, Steve Knight <wooly@sonic.net>
wrote:
On 25 Apr 2005 14:02:56 -0700, "Pastor Ferdinna"
<user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
From the article:
Pope Benedict XVI has revealed at an audience with pilgrims that he
prayed to God during conclave to spare him the "destiny" of becoming
Pope.
He had thought that at 78 his "life's work was finished and I was
expecting quieter years," he said.
"Evidently, this time [God] didn't listen to me."
Wonder why? ;-)
Classic.
'I didn't want the job but god said I had to do it. That means
everything I do is God's will.'
Jim Jones would be proud.
Anybody believe his prayers not to be choosen was sincere?
Oh! come on!
Actually, I do. He'd seen what it was like to be pope, and how it
turns out. Rapidly encroaching decrepitude stripping his predecessor
of all diginity in a very public way.
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
Due to be prayed for by Gastrich 11.3.2011
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| User: "Radical aeasterbunnyist" |
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26 Apr 2005 03:54:38 AM |
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The gates of alt.atheism slowly swung open, and there stood Steve
Knight <wooly@sonic.net>,who intoned thus:
On 25 Apr 2005 14:02:56 -0700, "Pastor Ferdinna"
<user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
From the article:
Pope Benedict XVI has revealed at an audience with pilgrims that he
prayed to God during conclave to spare him the "destiny" of becoming
Pope.
He had thought that at 78 his "life's work was finished and I was
expecting quieter years," he said.
"Evidently, this time [God] didn't listen to me."
Wonder why? ;-)
Classic.
'I didn't want the job but god said I had to do it. That means
everything I do is God's will.'
Jim Jones would be proud.
Peter Sutcliffe would be proud as well.
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
Due to be prayed for by Gastrich 11.3.2011
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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26 Apr 2005 05:07:36 AM |
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On 25 Apr 2005 14:02:56 -0700, "Pastor Ferdinna"
<user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
From the article:
Pope Benedict XVI has revealed at an audience with pilgrims that he
prayed to God during conclave to spare him the "destiny" of becoming
Pope.
He had thought that at 78 his "life's work was finished and I was
expecting quieter years," he said.
"Evidently, this time [God] didn't listen to me."
Wonder why? ;-)
So even the Pope has now discovered there is no god to answer
'prayers' and he has been wasting his time.
The Pope is supposed to be special, in touch with 'god' and able
to lead based on this link yet even he gets no responce! This
is indeed a major blow to catholic faith having a Pope unable
to communicate with this god. Maybe there are the beginnings
of realisation in this hierarchical organisation there is no god
answering prayer or that perhaps they are praying to a god who only
helps his choosen people, the Israelites and has no interest
even, hates other peoples (like he did the Eqyptians when he
committed mass murder and sent that Tsunami against Moslem
and Christian communities in Asia. This is indeed a vicious
god to be feared.
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Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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| User: "duke" |
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25 Apr 2005 05:04:49 PM |
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On 25 Apr 2005 14:02:56 -0700, "Pastor Ferdinna" <user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
From the article:
Pope Benedict XVI has revealed at an audience with pilgrims that he
prayed to God during conclave to spare him the "destiny" of becoming
Pope.
He had thought that at 78 his "life's work was finished and I was
expecting quieter years," he said.
"Evidently, this time [God] didn't listen to me."
Wonder why? ;-)
We ask God for something in prayer, if it be his will. It's really very simple.
In this case, God clearly thought that B16 was too good a leader to let him go
now.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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25 Apr 2005 07:37:05 PM |
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On 25 Apr 2005, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
On 25 Apr 2005 14:02:56 -0700, "Pastor Ferdinna"
<user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
From the article:
Pope Benedict XVI has revealed at an audience with pilgrims that he
prayed to God during conclave to spare him the "destiny" of becoming
Pope.
He had thought that at 78 his "life's work was finished and I was
expecting quieter years," he said.
"Evidently, this time [God] didn't listen to me."
Wonder why? ;-)
We ask God for something in prayer, if it be his will. It's really
very simple.
If it's his will, why bother praying about it?
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
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As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
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| User: "duke" |
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26 Apr 2005 05:32:19 PM |
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:37:05 -0500, Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote:
On 25 Apr 2005, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
On 25 Apr 2005 14:02:56 -0700, "Pastor Ferdinna"
<user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
From the article:
Pope Benedict XVI has revealed at an audience with pilgrims that he
prayed to God during conclave to spare him the "destiny" of becoming
Pope.
He had thought that at 78 his "life's work was finished and I was
expecting quieter years," he said.
"Evidently, this time [God] didn't listen to me."
Wonder why? ;-)
We ask God for something in prayer, if it be his will. It's really
very simple.
If it's his will, why bother praying about it?
To let him know my feelings. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand
this, vic.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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26 Apr 2005 07:03:58 PM |
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On 26 Apr 2005, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
We ask God for something in prayer, if it be his will. It's really
very simple.
If it's his will, why bother praying about it?
To let him know my feelings. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to
understand this, vic.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if he's omniscient,
as you christers claim, he already knows your feelings. So why bother?
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
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As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
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25 Apr 2005 06:19:25 PM |
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 17:04:49 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
We ask God for something in prayer, if it be his will. It's really very simple.
Let me get this straight.. you pray for something, say for your
favorite team to win a championship.
If it happens, it was God's will.
If it doesn't happen, it was God's will that the other team win.
In either case, where does your prayer come in, since the success or
failure of you prayer is predicated on what God was going to do
anyway!
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "duke" |
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26 Apr 2005 05:31:37 PM |
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:19:25 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
We ask God for something in prayer, if it be his will. It's really very simple.
Let me get this straight.. you pray for something, say for your
favorite team to win a championship.
Uh, not really. I suspect most atheists pray to their personal rock for such a
thing, but as a Christian, I pray (if it be God's will) for safe recovery from
illness, or the right guy for Pope.
In either case, where does your prayer come in, since the success or
failure of you prayer is predicated on what God was going to do
anyway!
How do you know?
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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26 Apr 2005 07:05:27 PM |
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On 26 Apr 2005, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
In either case, where does your prayer come in, since the success or
failure of you prayer is predicated on what God was going to do
anyway!
How do you know?
You're the one who brought up "god's will"...
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
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As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
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26 Apr 2005 08:40:51 PM |
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:31:37 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> drained
his beer, leaned back in the alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly
proclaimed the following
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 23:19:25 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
We ask God for something in prayer, if it be his will. It's really very simple.
Let me get this straight.. you pray for something, say for your
favorite team to win a championship.
Uh, not really. I suspect most atheists pray to their personal rock for such a
thing, but as a Christian, I pray (if it be God's will) for safe recovery from
illness, or the right guy for Pope.
Actually, when the Giants were in the 2002 World Series, the
Archbishop of San Francisco asked for prayers for the team's success
at a Mass before the series started.
In either case, where does your prayer come in, since the success or
failure of you prayer is predicated on what God was going to do
anyway!
How do you know?
See where you said "if it be his will"? If I want something, pray for
it, and its not part of God's plan, the prayer is useless.
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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28 Apr 2005 05:40:00 AM |
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 01:40:51 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Let me get this straight.. you pray for something, say for your
favorite team to win a championship.
Uh, not really. I suspect most atheists pray to their personal rock for such a
thing, but as a Christian, I pray (if it be God's will) for safe recovery from
illness, or the right guy for Pope.
Actually, when the Giants were in the 2002 World Series, the
Archbishop of San Francisco asked for prayers for the team's success
at a Mass before the series started.
Your point? The Bishop (a man) and his congregation prayed to God for a SF
victory. Atheists pray to their rock.
I pray to God for things such as safe recovery from illness, usually for
someone else, or the right guy for Pope, etc.
In either case, where does your prayer come in, since the success or
failure of you prayer is predicated on what God was going to do
anyway!
How do you know?
See where you said "if it be his will"? If I want something, pray for
it, and its not part of God's plan, the prayer is useless.
Nope, I said "will", you said "plan". There is a difference.
Again, how can you deny that God's will cannot be modified if many pray for
something? After all, that's exactly what he asks for.
I don't have time to look it up now, but you remember the biblical passage re
"If 100, 50, 10 etc good people can be found, God agreed not to destroy the
city"?
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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28 Apr 2005 12:05:28 PM |
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on 28 Apr 2005 in alt.atheism, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 01:40:51 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Let me get this straight.. you pray for something, say for your
favorite team to win a championship.
Uh, not really. I suspect most atheists pray to their personal rock
for such a thing, but as a Christian, I pray (if it be God's will)
for safe recovery from illness, or the right guy for Pope.
Actually, when the Giants were in the 2002 World Series, the
Archbishop of San Francisco asked for prayers for the team's success
at a Mass before the series started.
Your point? The Bishop (a man) and his congregation prayed to God
for a SF victory. Atheists pray to their rock.
Oxymoron.
I pray to God for things such as safe recovery from illness, usually
for someone else, or the right guy for Pope, etc.
And since this has already been decided billions of years ago by an
omniscient god with a plan, what purpose does your little prayer serve?
Come on, duke. You can do it. See those two neurons over there? Oh, come
now, there aren't that many of them in there. Got them? Good. Now rub
them together. Carefully, you want to be able to use them again....
In either case, where does your prayer come in, since the success or
failure of you prayer is predicated on what God was going to do
anyway!
How do you know?
See where you said "if it be his will"? If I want something, pray for
it, and its not part of God's plan, the prayer is useless.
Nope, I said "will", you said "plan". There is a difference.
Yet you don't tell us what the difference is. Can god change his will?
Can he change his plan? If the answer is no / no, then please explain the
purpose of prayer.
Again, how can you deny that God's will cannot be modified if many
pray for something? After all, that's exactly what he asks for.
Now you are making things up to support your lies. Then again, this is
what religious people do. No matter what they say or do, they claim to
have the support of the god, regardless of how many other religious people
disagree with them.
I don't have time to look it up now, but you remember the biblical
passage re "If 100, 50, 10 etc good people can be found, God agreed
not to destroy the city"?
And this is relevant to reality how?
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
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28 Apr 2005 05:52:06 PM |
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:05:28 -0500, Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote:
Nope, I said "will", you said "plan". There is a difference.
Yet you don't tell us what the difference is. Can god change his will?
Can he change his plan? If the answer is no / no, then please explain the
purpose of prayer.
I don't have to answer. God *can* decide his will basis our response.
After all, God calls us to repent and follow his son. Changing his will has
nothing to do with it. What does have something to do with it is our response
to God and whether we change our mind.
Again, how can you deny that God's will cannot be modified if many
pray for something? After all, that's exactly what he asks for.
Now you are making things up to support your lies. Then again, this is
what religious people do. No matter what they say or do, they claim to
have the support of the god, regardless of how many other religious people
disagree with them.
How so? I pray for a number of things, if they be God's will.
I don't have time to look it up now, but you remember the biblical
passage re "If 100, 50, 10 etc good people can be found, God agreed
not to destroy the city"?
And this is relevant to reality how?
Not to worry, I wouldn't expect you to comprehend.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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28 Apr 2005 08:18:36 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 12:05:28 -0500, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> wrote:
Nope, I said "will", you said "plan". There is a difference.
Yet you don't tell us what the difference is. Can god change his
will? Can he change his plan? If the answer is no / no, then please
explain the purpose of prayer.
I don't have to answer. God *can* decide his will basis our response.
After all, God calls us to repent and follow his son. Changing his
will has nothing to do with it. What does have something to do with
it is our response to God and whether we change our mind.
Again, how can you deny that God's will cannot be modified if many
pray for something? After all, that's exactly what he asks for.
Now you are making things up to support your lies. Then again, this
is what religious people do. No matter what they say or do, they
claim to have the support of the god, regardless of how many other
religious people disagree with them.
How so? I pray for a number of things, if they be God's will.
I don't have time to look it up now, but you remember the biblical
passage re "If 100, 50, 10 etc good people can be found, God agreed
not to destroy the city"?
And this is relevant to reality how?
Not to worry, I wouldn't expect you to comprehend.
Earl has such a simple concept of his god that the idea of it changing it's
mind never bothered him.
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29 Apr 2005 01:07:20 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:18:36 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Earl has such a simple concept of his god that the idea of it changing it's
mind never bothered him.
Yep. He well said that unless we are the children and he is the Father, we can
never see the kingdom of heaven.
Have you always denied your own father?
duke
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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29 Apr 2005 04:13:17 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:18:36 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Earl has such a simple concept of his god that the idea of it
changing it's mind never bothered him.
Yep. He well said that unless we are the children and he is the
Father, we can never see the kingdom of heaven.
Have you always denied your own father?
The sheep and Shepard analogy is much better Earl.
Most children grow up and start thinking. Sheep like you, don't.
But go on avoiding the comment. It shows what a poor education you have.
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| User: "duke" |
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29 Apr 2005 04:46:14 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:13:17 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
The sheep and Shepard analogy is much better Earl.
Most children grow up and start thinking. Sheep like you, don't.
And that's why your fanalogy isn't better. He is God the Father, not God the
shepard. Sheep don't love their father unconditionally.
But go on avoiding the comment. It shows what a poor education you have.
And how much more I do know than you do.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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29 Apr 2005 07:53:20 PM |
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On 29 Apr 2005, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:13:17 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
The sheep and Shepard analogy is much better Earl.
Most children grow up and start thinking. Sheep like you, don't.
And that's why your fanalogy isn't better. He is God the Father, not
God the shepard. Sheep don't love their father unconditionally.
There are no gods.
But go on avoiding the comment. It shows what a poor education you
have.
And how much more I do know than you do.
You misspelled "wish".
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
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As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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30 Apr 2005 06:08:02 AM |
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 16:46:14 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:13:17 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
The sheep and Shepard analogy is much better Earl.
Most children grow up and start thinking. Sheep like you, don't.
And that's why your fanalogy isn't better. He is God the Father, not God the
shepard. Sheep don't love their father unconditionally.
That's shepherd Duke. a herder of sheep.
And how much more I do know than you do.
Hmm..
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Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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29 Apr 2005 07:22:09 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 21:13:17 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
The sheep and Shepard analogy is much better Earl.
Most children grow up and start thinking. Sheep like you, don't.
And that's why your fanalogy isn't better. He is God the Father, not
God the shepard. Sheep don't love their father unconditionally.
But go on avoiding the comment. It shows what a poor education you
have.
And how much more I do know than you do.
It's Friday and Earl is having one of his little episodes.
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| User: "William T. Goat" |
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29 Apr 2005 03:56:54 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:18:36 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Earl has such a simple concept of his god that the idea of it
changing it's
mind never bothered him.
Yep. He well said that unless we are the children and he is the
Father, we can
never see the kingdom of heaven.
Ah. Nepotism.
Have you always denied your own father?
The man who impregnated my mother? No.
--Billy
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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29 Apr 2005 02:57:34 PM |
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on 29 Apr 2005 in alt.atheism, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:18:36 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Earl has such a simple concept of his god that the idea of it
changing it's
mind never bothered him.
Yep. He well said that unless we are the children and he is the
Father, we can never see the kingdom of heaven.
Wrong. Some Middle-East goat herders adopted that as their dogma.
Have you always denied your own father?
Loaded question, logical fallacy.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
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| User: "duke" |
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29 Apr 2005 04:43:27 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:57:34 -0500, Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote:
Yep. He well said that unless we are the children and he is the
Father, we can never see the kingdom of heaven.
Wrong. Some Middle-East goat herders adopted that as their dogma.
And it still applies today.
Have you always denied your own father?
Loaded question, logical fallacy.
Not a fallacy at all. He is our Father. We are his children. What does any
Father want more than anything else - for his children to love him
unconditionally. He made that very clear.
Have you always denied your own father?
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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