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"Protagoras" |
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03 Jul 2005 05:21:09 PM |
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best crucified/resurrected Saviors? |
Who would you say are the top 2 or 3 examples of mythological Savior figures
(other than Jesus Christ), crucified and resurrected for the benefit of
humans? I thought that Mythra was a great candidate, but recently read
about the Greek God Bacchus (aka Dionysus) who looks to be a good
candidate.
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| User: "Clayton: Master Of Scrotum Origami" |
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| Title: Re: best crucified/resurrected Saviors? |
03 Jul 2005 05:59:44 PM |
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"Protagoras" <protagoras@miworld.net> wrote in message
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Who would you say are the top 2 or 3 examples of mythological Savior
figures
(other than Jesus Christ), crucified and resurrected for the benefit of
humans? I thought that Mythra was a great candidate, but recently read
about the Greek God Bacchus (aka Dionysus) who looks to be a good
candidate.
Well Bacchus was a dyed in the wool ***** up artist and hedonist.....sounds
like a bloody good choice to me!
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: best crucified/resurrected Saviors? |
03 Jul 2005 07:39:19 PM |
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"Clayton: Master Of Scrotum Origami" <cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonymails.com>
wrote in news:42c86d5e$0$10107$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au:
"Protagoras" <protagoras@miworld.net> wrote in message
news:rxZxe.23190$B_3.7868@fe05.lga...
Who would you say are the top 2 or 3 examples of mythological Savior
figures
(other than Jesus Christ), crucified and resurrected for the benefit
of humans? I thought that Mythra was a great candidate, but recently
read about the Greek God Bacchus (aka Dionysus) who looks to be a
good candidate.
Well Bacchus was a dyed in the wool ***** up artist and
hedonist.....sounds like a bloody good choice to me!
Yes, but watch out for the screaming fans, they'll tear you up!
(Orpheus and the Maenads)
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Metaphysics is almost always an attempt to prove
the incredible by an appeal to the unintelligible."
[H.L. Mencken, "Prejudices"]
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: best crucified/resurrected Saviors? |
04 Jul 2005 02:50:39 PM |
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"Protagoras" <protagoras@miworld.net> wrote in message
news:rxZxe.23190$B_3.7868@fe05.lga...
Who would you say are the top 2 or 3 examples of mythological Savior
figures
(other than Jesus Christ), crucified and resurrected for the benefit of
humans? I thought that Mythra was a great candidate, but recently read
about the Greek God Bacchus (aka Dionysus) who looks to be a good
candidate.
***** these ***** gods that resurrect.
If you want a cool god, that knows the meaning of sacrifice, look no further
than Prometheus. He helped us out, and paid the price.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "Katt" |
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| Title: Re: best crucified/resurrected Saviors? |
03 Jul 2005 06:58:02 PM |
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"Protagoras" <protagoras@miworld.net> wrote in message
news:rxZxe.23190$B_3.7868@fe05.lga...
Who would you say are the top 2 or 3 examples of mythological Savior
figures
(other than Jesus Christ), crucified and resurrected for the benefit of
humans? I thought that Mythra was a great candidate, but recently read
about the Greek God Bacchus (aka Dionysus) who looks to be a good
candidate.
Dunno; but there's some interesting Mithraism stuff here:
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/Mithraism.html
Katt.
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: best crucified/resurrected Saviors? |
03 Jul 2005 08:17:30 PM |
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On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:21:09 -0500, Protagoras
<protagoras@miworld.net> drained his beer, leaned back in the
alt.atheism beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
Who would you say are the top 2 or 3 examples of mythological Savior figures
(other than Jesus Christ), crucified and resurrected for the benefit of
humans? I thought that Mythra was a great candidate, but recently read
about the Greek God Bacchus (aka Dionysus) who looks to be a good
candidate.
Osiris is a good one. Much of the later Dionysen mythos and worship
was borrowed from the story of Osiris.
Peresphone is a good dying/rising goddess story.
While it's not really a dying and rising story, Odin was tormented on
an ash tree for nine days to gain the runes.
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: best crucified/resurrected Saviors? |
03 Jul 2005 06:36:13 PM |
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On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:21:09 -0500, Protagoras <protagoras@miworld.net> wrote:
Who would you say are the top 2 or 3 examples of mythological Savior figures
(other than Jesus Christ)
Yeah, Jesus Christ is the real deal, no myth.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Dubh Ghall" |
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| Title: Re: best crucified/resurrected Saviors? |
04 Jul 2005 04:03:15 AM |
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On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 18:36:13 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:21:09 -0500, Protagoras <protagoras@miworld.net> wrote:
Who would you say are the top 2 or 3 examples of mythological Savior figures
(other than Jesus Christ)
Yeah, Jesus Christ is the real deal, no myth.
Evidence?
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Puck Greenman
The spelling, Like any opinion stated here,
is purely my own
#162 BAAWA Knight.
Plonked by Rob Duncan
Na bister 500,000
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: best crucified/resurrected Saviors? |
04 Jul 2005 11:31:39 AM |
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On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 09:03:15 GMT, Dubh Ghall <puck@pooks.hill.fey> wrote:
Yeah, Jesus Christ is the real deal, no myth.
Evidence?
Eye witnesses.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: best crucified/resurrected Saviors? |
04 Jul 2005 12:14:01 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net)
made the light shine upon us with this:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 09:03:15 GMT, Dubh Ghall <puck@pooks.hill.fey>
wrote:
Yeah, Jesus Christ is the real deal, no myth.
Evidence?
Eye witnesses.
Oh come on! The NT was written well after the death of your godman
character. None of the authors of the books of the bible witnessed any
of the events. But they wrote about witnesses, and you believe it.
Please explain why the killing of the infants of Bethlehem by King Herod
is only outlined in the bible, and not in any history books of the time.
Do you really think an event like that would not be chronicled?
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
Lovingly plonked by Roger Pearse
______________
"I'm sickened by all religions. Religion has divided people. I don't
think there's any difference between the pope wearing a large hat and
parading around with a smoking purse and an African painting his face
white and praying to a rock." [Howard Stern]
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: best crucified/resurrected Saviors? |
03 Jul 2005 09:30:55 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net)
made the light shine upon us with this:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:21:09 -0500, Protagoras
<protagoras@miworld.net> wrote:
Who would you say are the top 2 or 3 examples of mythological Savior
figures (other than Jesus Christ)
Yeah, Jesus Christ is the real deal, no myth.
You're trying to change the meaning of a sentence that was already posted
and comprehended by all but yourself, Errrrrrl. The sentence implies
that Jeebus is a myth as well. This, of course, is supported by tons of
historical evidence, like the fact that Jesus of Nazareth could not have
been from Nazareth, since Nazareth wasn't a town until sometime in the
third century CE.
Plenty more here.
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
Lovingly plonked by Roger Pearse
______________
"I'm sickened by all religions. Religion has divided people. I don't
think there's any difference between the pope wearing a large hat and
parading around with a smoking purse and an African painting his face
white and praying to a rock."
[Howard Stern]
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: best crucified/resurrected Saviors? |
04 Jul 2005 11:31:12 AM |
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On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:30:55 -0500, Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote:
Yeah, Jesus Christ is the real deal, no myth.
You're trying to change the meaning of a sentence that was already posted
and comprehended by all but yourself, Errrrrrl. The sentence implies
that Jeebus is a myth as well.
No evidence.
This, of course, is supported by tons of
historical evidence, like the fact that Jesus of Nazareth could not have
been from Nazareth, since Nazareth wasn't a town until sometime in the
third century CE.
What country?
Plenty more here.
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
Such a poor site it won't move on.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: best crucified/resurrected Saviors? |
04 Jul 2005 12:05:47 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net)
made the light shine upon us with this:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:30:55 -0500, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> wrote:
Yeah, Jesus Christ is the real deal, no myth.
You're trying to change the meaning of a sentence that was already
posted and comprehended by all but yourself, Errrrrrl. The sentence
implies that Jeebus is a myth as well.
No evidence.
See below.
This, of course, is supported by tons of
historical evidence, like the fact that Jesus of Nazareth could not
have been from Nazareth, since Nazareth wasn't a town until sometime
in the third century CE.
What country?
Galilee
You don't even know what country your godman is from?
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/nazareth.html
Plenty more here.
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
Such a poor site it won't move on.
What do you mean by "move on"? Where do you want it to go? The website
makes a claim (Jesus never existed), supports it with evidence, then lets
you decide. Your religion makes a claim, asks you to believe, then
threatens you with eternal damnation if you question it. Which sounds more
plausible to you? Don't bother answering, I know which one it is, you
brainwashed moron.
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
Lovingly plonked by Roger Pearse
______________
"I'm sickened by all religions. Religion has divided people. I don't think
there's any difference between the pope wearing a large hat and parading
around with a smoking purse and an African painting his face white and
praying to a rock."
[Howard Stern]
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| User: "Vince" |
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| Title: Re: best crucified/resurrected Saviors? |
04 Jul 2005 02:31:06 PM |
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"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns968966DF4DE00vicman@216.196.97.136...
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net)
made the light shine upon us with this:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:30:55 -0500, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> wrote:
Yeah, Jesus Christ is the real deal, no myth.
You're trying to change the meaning of a sentence that was already
posted and comprehended by all but yourself, Errrrrrl. The sentence
implies that Jeebus is a myth as well.
No evidence.
See below.
This, of course, is supported by tons of
historical evidence, like the fact that Jesus of Nazareth could not
have been from Nazareth, since Nazareth wasn't a town until sometime
in the third century CE.
What country?
Galilee
You don't even know what country your godman is from?
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/nazareth.html
Plenty more here.
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
Such a poor site it won't move on.
What do you mean by "move on"? Where do you want it to go? The website
makes a claim (Jesus never existed), supports it with evidence, then lets
you decide. Your religion makes a claim, asks you to believe, then
threatens you with eternal damnation if you question it. Which sounds
more
plausible to you? Don't bother answering, I know which one it is, you
brainwashed moron.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
Lovingly plonked by Roger Pearse
______________
"I'm sickened by all religions. Religion has divided people. I don't think
there's any difference between the pope wearing a large hat and parading
around with a smoking purse and an African painting his face white and
praying to a rock."
[Howard Stern]
There are at least 2 differences: The Pope controls billions of
dollars and he knows Latin.
Vince
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| User: "towelie" |
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03 Jul 2005 08:27:21 PM |
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TV's duke wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:21:09 -0500, Protagoras <protagoras@miworld.net>
wrote:
Who would you say are the top 2 or 3 examples of mythological Savior
figures
(other than Jesus Christ)
Yeah, Jesus Christ is the real deal, no myth.
Prove it.
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Beliefs are dangerous. Beliefs allow the mind to stop functioning.
A non-functioning mind is clinically dead. Believe in nothing.
- Maynard James Keenan
The belief in the Christian god... is an appalling nightmare. I reject
the notion that the whole universe was created by this kind of evil
creature who would create such a thing. - Anthony Flew, March 22, 2005
aa #2133
ap #19
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| User: "Clayton: Master Of Scrotum Origami" |
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04 Jul 2005 03:03:37 AM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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TV's duke wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:21:09 -0500, Protagoras <protagoras@miworld.net>
wrote:
Who would you say are the top 2 or 3 examples of mythological Savior
figures
(other than Jesus Christ)
Yeah, Jesus Christ is the real deal, no myth.
Prove it.
Gee....I wonder what duke's response will be?? Oh dear, could I possibly
imagine what nonsensical non-sequitor puke will retaliate with, thinking he
is striking a massive godly blow against atheism? Hmm.....could it be
"Prove he's not real!" His mind is just so vast and mysterious, I just
can't imagine if that's what he will say!
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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04 Jul 2005 12:18:36 AM |
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duke wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:21:09 -0500, Protagoras <protagoras@miworld.net> wrote:
Who would you say are the top 2 or 3 examples of mythological Savior figures
(other than Jesus Christ)
Yeah, Jesus Christ is the real deal, no myth.
Cite?
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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04 Jul 2005 09:21:08 AM |
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DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in
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duke wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 17:21:09 -0500, Protagoras
<protagoras@miworld.net> wrote:
Who would you say are the top 2 or 3 examples of mythological Savior
figures (other than Jesus Christ)
Yeah, Jesus Christ is the real deal, no myth.
Cite?
I'll get this one for you, dook.
"Yes, Jesus loves me
Yes, Jesus loves me
Yes, Jesus loves me
The Bible tells me so"
He learned it in Sunday school.
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Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
"Dogmatism is puppyism come to its full growth."
-- Douglas Jerrold 1803-1857
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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11 Jul 2005 05:55:05 AM |
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duke wrote:
Yeah, Jesus Christ is the real deal, no myth.
Then later,
duke wrote:
I feel so silly talking the literal flood, but I'm dealing with
atheists, who
insist the literal story of the flood, then reject it.
So, which parts of the Bible should be believed as factual and literal
and which parts of the Bible should be considered parable and literary?
Just make that up as you go along, do you?
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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| User: "Ben Goren" |
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03 Jul 2005 08:37:22 PM |
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Protagoras wrote:
Who would you say are the top 2 or 3 examples of mythological
Savior figures (other than Jesus Christ), crucified and
resurrected for the benefit of humans? I thought that Mythra was
a great candidate, but recently read about the Greek God Bacchus
(aka Dionysus) who looks to be a good candidate.
It's not exactly a god, but I rather like the phoenix myth,
myself.
I can't think of any off the top of my head, but I'm pretty sure
that there are some sun / moon deities that die and are reborn
daily / monthy. Probably some pretty old ones, too.
Cheers,
b&
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BAAWA Knight of Blasphemy
God can never prove that this sentence is true.
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