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"J Young" |
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19 Sep 2005 08:57:33 AM |
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"Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing" |
Liberals and atheists just love to bring focus on news stories about
rape, child molestation, mass murder and other vile crimes committed by
clergy members or leaders of youth organizations. Has anyone wondered
why these miscreants choose such professions? Because it is an accepted
fact that these positions are filled by honest, decent, people of high
virtue. What better disguise? It's like the terrorist bomber in Israel
who blows up a bus dressed like a rabbi; there is an attempt to blend
in and not draw suspicion. Remember, the perverts and other vermin are
well aware the cover these institutions provide for them. So please,
instead of blaming the organizations ot institutions that these
criminals claim to represent, remember why they chose such a cover in
the first place, True people of virtue would NEVER commit these
offenses.
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| User: "Elf M. Sternberg" |
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| Title: Re: "Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing" |
19 Sep 2005 11:13:43 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Has anyone wondered why these miscreants choose such professions?
Because it is an accepted fact that these positions are filled by
honest, decent, people of high virtue.
I would have said it is because those position convey the
*illusion* of decency and honesty-- oh, and access to victims. You
don't get easy access to victims working in a cubicle.
Play your bagpipes, Young. Play.
Elf
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Elf M. Sternberg, Immanentizing the Eschaton since 1988
http://www.drizzle.com/~elf
"You know how some people treat their body like a temple?
I treat mine like issa amusement park!" - Kei
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| User: "NefeshBarYochai" |
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| Title: Re: "Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing" |
25 Sep 2005 01:38:56 PM |
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Hey eat a butt, cigarttee butt that is you morbid banshee
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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| Title: Re: "Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing" |
19 Sep 2005 07:31:42 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
Liberals and atheists just love to bring focus on news stories about
rape, child molestation, mass murder and other vile crimes committed by
clergy members or leaders of youth organizations. Has anyone wondered
why these miscreants choose such professions? Because it is an accepted
fact that these positions are filled by honest, decent, people of high
virtue. What better disguise? It's like the terrorist bomber in Israel
who blows up a bus dressed like a rabbi; there is an attempt to blend
in and not draw suspicion. Remember, the perverts and other vermin are
well aware the cover these institutions provide for them. So please,
instead of blaming the organizations ot institutions that these
criminals claim to represent, remember why they chose such a cover in
the first place, True people of virtue would NEVER commit these
offenses.
No true Scotsman, eh, IBen?
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Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Chicago 5, Houston 3 (April 26)
NEXT GAME: Friday, October 7 vs. San Antonio, 7:35
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| User: "Misleart Chuff" |
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| Title: Re: "Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing" |
20 Sep 2005 10:03:01 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1127138253.730726.62690@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
: Liberals and atheists just love to
What would you know about what Liberals and atheists love to? You're
just an ignorant wrongwinger.
bring focus on news stories about
: rape, child molestation, mass murder and other vile crimes committed
by
: clergy members or leaders of youth organizations. Has anyone
wondered
: why these miscreants choose such professions? Because it is an
accepted
: fact that these positions are filled by honest, decent, people of
high
: virtue.
*****. They choose them because they're filled with like-minded
people...like you.
What better disguise? It's like the terrorist bomber in Israel
: who blows up a bus dressed like a rabbi;
Really? Why haven't I heard this story? Post a link, if it's true.
there is an attempt to blend
: in and not draw suspicion. Remember, the perverts and other vermin
are
: well aware the cover these institutions provide for them. So please,
: instead of blaming the organizations ot institutions that these
: criminals claim to represent, remember why they chose such a cover
in
: the first place, True people of virtue would NEVER commit these
: offenses.
No true scotsman......
Pull your head out, you sorry loon.
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| User: "smeagol_people" |
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| Title: Re: "Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing" |
19 Sep 2005 10:04:13 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1127138253.730726.62690@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Liberals and atheists just love to bring focus on news stories about
rape, child molestation, mass murder and other vile crimes committed by
clergy members or leaders of youth organizations. Has anyone wondered
why these miscreants choose such professions? Because it is an accepted
fact that these positions are filled by honest, decent, people of high
virtue. What better disguise? It's like the terrorist bomber in Israel
who blows up a bus dressed like a rabbi; there is an attempt to blend
in and not draw suspicion. Remember, the perverts and other vermin are
well aware the cover these institutions provide for them. So please,
instead of blaming the organizations ot institutions that these
criminals claim to represent, remember why they chose such a cover in
the first place, True people of virtue would NEVER commit these
offenses.
Hear, hear...
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| User: "The Secretary of HomIntern" |
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20 Sep 2005 01:48:50 AM |
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I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddess
Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to smeagol_people:
"J Young" wrote...
Liberals and atheists just love to bring focus on news stories about
rape, child molestation, mass murder and other vile crimes committed by
clergy members or leaders of youth organizations. Has anyone wondered
why these miscreants choose such professions? Because it is an accepted
fact that these positions are filled by honest, decent, people of high
virtue. What better disguise? It's like the terrorist bomber in Israel
who blows up a bus dressed like a rabbi; there is an attempt to blend
in and not draw suspicion. Remember, the perverts and other vermin are
well aware the cover these institutions provide for them. So please,
instead of blaming the organizations ot institutions that these
criminals claim to represent, remember why they chose such a cover in
the first place, True people of virtue would NEVER commit these
offenses.
Hear, hear...
You are SO your nick.
--
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Hail Eris! "The personal _is_ political."
Bent Depraved N. Deviant *****-Smoker, Esq., Superfaggot
"Stupidity excuses nothing. It's only a reason...." -- Phxbrd
Economic Left/Right: -7.63 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.38
"The whining has just begun." -- John Wentzky
Killfiled by: directory; Anim8rfsk
"It's not nice to misrepresent Mother Nature."
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| User: "smeagol_people" |
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| Title: Re: "Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing" |
20 Sep 2005 09:48:03 AM |
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"The Secretary of HomIntern" <ý|<®åñ5ë9ô9@\/\/òé|\/|.6®ó> wrote in message
news:mhOXe.527167$s54.267128@pd7tw2no...
I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The Goddess
Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to smeagol_people:
"J Young" wrote...
Liberals and atheists just love to bring focus on news stories about
rape, child molestation, mass murder and other vile crimes committed by
clergy members or leaders of youth organizations. Has anyone wondered
why these miscreants choose such professions? Because it is an accepted
fact that these positions are filled by honest, decent, people of high
virtue. What better disguise? It's like the terrorist bomber in Israel
who blows up a bus dressed like a rabbi; there is an attempt to blend
in and not draw suspicion. Remember, the perverts and other vermin are
well aware the cover these institutions provide for them. So please,
instead of blaming the organizations ot institutions that these
criminals claim to represent, remember why they chose such a cover in
the first place, True people of virtue would NEVER commit these
offenses.
Hear, hear...
You are SO your nick.
Nope, m8, YOU are...
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| User: "" |
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20 Sep 2005 11:50:29 AM |
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On 20-Sep-2005, "smeagol_people" <smeagol_people@gmail.com> wrote:
"The Secretary of HomIntern" <ý|<®åñ5ë9ô9@\/\/òé|\/|.6®ó> wrote in message
news:mhOXe.527167$s54.267128@pd7tw2no...
I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The
Goddess
Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to smeagol_people:
"J Young" wrote...
[snip sick lies]
Hear, hear...
You are SO your nick.
Nope, m8, YOU are...
Not that you can *prove*, of course....
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| User: "wrath.of.god" |
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| Title: Re: "Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing" |
20 Sep 2005 09:04:31 PM |
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<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message news:p5XXe.5820$9a2.5340@trnddc04...
On 20-Sep-2005, "smeagol_people" <smeagol_people@gmail.com> wrote:
"The Secretary of HomIntern" <ý|<®åñ5ë9ô9@\/\/òé|\/|.6®ó> wrote in message
news:mhOXe.527167$s54.267128@pd7tw2no...
I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The
Goddess
Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to smeagol_people:
"J Young" wrote...
[snip sick lies]
Hear, hear...
You are SO your nick.
Nope, m8, YOU are...
Not that you can *prove*, of course....
You have just proved it yourself... have a nice day!
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| User: "" |
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21 Sep 2005 06:41:51 AM |
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On 20-Sep-2005, "wrath.of.god" <wrath.of.god@gmail.com> wrote:
<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:p5XXe.5820$9a2.5340@trnddc04...
On 20-Sep-2005, "smeagol_people" <smeagol_people@gmail.com> wrote:
"The Secretary of HomIntern" <ý|<®åñ5ë9ô9@\/\/òé|\/|.6®ó> wrote in
message
news:mhOXe.527167$s54.267128@pd7tw2no...
I was busily flonking away in alt.politics.homosexuality, when The
Goddess
Eris Herself suddenly made me reply to smeagol_people:
"J Young" wrote...
[snip sick lies]
Hear, hear...
You are SO your nick.
Nope, m8, YOU are...
Not that you can *prove*, of course....
You have just proved it yourself...
Not that you can prove, of course.
have a nice day!
I will, secure in the knowledge that I'm not a loser like you.
Now stay killfiled, loser.
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| User: "wrath.of.god" |
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21 Sep 2005 10:14:22 AM |
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<flaviaR@verizon.net> wrote in message news:3GbYe.17669$zG1.7524@trnddc05...
You have just proved it yourself...
Not that you can prove, of course.
Yet again, YOU proved it... once again.
have a nice day!
I will, secure in the knowledge that I'm not a loser like you.
Thats your projection...
Now stay killfiled, loser.
Chickenshit...
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| User: "Andrealphus" |
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19 Sep 2005 06:34:58 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1127138253.730726.62690@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Liberals and atheists just love to bring focus on news stories about
rape, child molestation, mass murder and other vile crimes committed by
clergy members or leaders of youth organizations. Has anyone wondered
why these miscreants choose such professions? Because it is an accepted
fact that these positions are filled by honest, decent, people of high
virtue. What better disguise? It's like the terrorist bomber in Israel
who blows up a bus dressed like a rabbi; there is an attempt to blend
in and not draw suspicion. Remember, the perverts and other vermin are
well aware the cover these institutions provide for them. So please,
instead of blaming the organizations ot institutions that these
criminals claim to represent, remember why they chose such a cover in
the first place, True people of virtue would NEVER commit these
offenses.
The Catholic Church isn't being blamed for the crime, per se. They are
being blamed for not taking appropriate action and turning these vermin over
to the proper authorities, and transfering them to other parishes when they
are about to get caught. You were quite accurate when you said that these
institution provides cover for these criminals. They KNOWINGLY provided
that cover for decades, perhaps centuries. THAT is what the Catholic Church
has been guilty of, and that is why they are RIGHTFULLY taking heat for it.
The Catholic Church knowingly enabled these criminals, protected them
against civil prosecution, and in doing so provided permission for their
crimes.
This is not a liberal or an atheist thing, it is simple fact.
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| User: "El Conquistador" |
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19 Sep 2005 07:04:41 PM |
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BASRA, Iraq (Reuters) - Angry crowds attacked a British tank with petrol
bombs and rocks in Basra on Monday after Iraqi authorities detained two
British undercover soldiers in the southern city for firing on police.
Reuters photographs showed a British soldier engulfed by flames as he
scrambled out of a burning tank.
Two Iraqis were killed in the violence, an Interior Ministry official said.
"We can confirm that a shooting incident involving U.K. military personnel
has taken place which is currently being investigated," a British military
spokesman said in a statement.
"Two U.K. military personnel have been detained and we are liaising with the
Iraqi authorities on this matter."
An Iraqi official in Basra said the British military had informed him the
detained men were undercover soldiers.
"They were driving a civilian car and were dressed in civilian clothes when
a shooting took place between them and Iraqi patrols," the official told
Reuters.
"We are investigating and an Iraqi judge is on the case questioning them."
UNDERCOVER
Reuters photographs showed one of the two detained men with a bandage on his
head. Police and Interior Ministry officials said the men were wearing
traditional Arab headdresses for their undercover mission.
Mohammed al-Abadi, an official in the Basra governorate, said the two men
looked suspicious to police.
"A policeman approached them and then one of these guys fired at him. Then
the police managed to capture them," Abadi told reporters.
"They refused to say what their mission was. They said they were British
soldiers and (suggested) to ask their commander about their mission," he
added.
Reuters Television footage showed the tank trying to reverse away from
trouble after it came under attack, apparently from petrol bombs as a crowd
gathered around it.
Within moments flames emerged from the top of the tank, after a furious
crowd hurled petrol bombs, burning furniture and tyres at it.
One soldier climbed out of the vehicle's hatch and jumped clear of it, as
the crowd pelted him with stones.
A witness said people drove through the streets of Basra with loudhailers
demanding that the undercover Britons remain in detention and be sent to
jail.
Basra, capital of the Shi'ite south, has been relatively stable compared
with central Iraq, where Sunni Arab insurgents have killed thousands of
Iraqi and U.S. troops, officials and civilians with suicide attacks,
roadside bombs and shootings.
The main ally of the United States, Britain said on Sunday it would if
necessary increase the number of troops in Iraq, where it has about 8,500
soldiers.
(Additional reporting by Mariam Karouny in Baghdad)
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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19 Sep 2005 09:15:16 AM |
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In <1127138253.730726.62690@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Liberals and atheists just love to bring focus on news stories about rape,
child molestation, mass murder and other vile crimes committed by clergy
members or leaders of youth organizations. Has anyone wondered why these
miscreants choose such professions? Because it is an accepted fact that
these positions are filled by honest, decent, people of high virtue. What
better disguise? It's like the terrorist bomber in Israel who blows up a
bus dressed like a rabbi; there is an attempt to blend in and not draw
suspicion. Remember, the perverts and other vermin are well aware the
cover these institutions provide for them. So please, instead of blaming
the organizations ot institutions that these criminals claim to represent,
remember why they chose such a cover in the first place, True people of
virtue would NEVER commit these offenses.
I hear bagpipes...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2D511CBB
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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19 Sep 2005 09:39:20 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:nsWdnUKm1IVoWrPeRVn-hg@megapath.net...
In <1127138253.730726.62690@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Liberals and atheists just love to bring focus on news stories about
rape,
child molestation, mass murder and other vile crimes committed by clergy
members or leaders of youth organizations. Has anyone wondered why these
miscreants choose such professions? Because it is an accepted fact that
these positions are filled by honest, decent, people of high virtue. What
better disguise? It's like the terrorist bomber in Israel who blows up a
bus dressed like a rabbi; there is an attempt to blend in and not draw
suspicion. Remember, the perverts and other vermin are well aware the
cover these institutions provide for them. So please, instead of blaming
the organizations ot institutions that these criminals claim to
represent,
remember why they chose such a cover in the first place, True people of
virtue would NEVER commit these offenses.
I hear bagpipes...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2D511CBB
I suppose we're supposed to believe that the criminals are really all
atheists at heart and don't believe in Jesus-God one whit. And we all
know that atheists are *not* 'true people of virtue.' Right? So I guess
people that go around perpetrating vile crimes must *all* be atheists,
or at the very least, liberals. Is that what I'm supposed to understand?
Greywolf
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| User: "Tukla Ratte" |
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22 Sep 2005 11:58:23 AM |
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Greywolf wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:nsWdnUKm1IVoWrPeRVn-hg@megapath.net...
In <1127138253.730726.62690@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Liberals and atheists just love to bring focus on news stories about
rape,
child molestation, mass murder and other vile crimes committed by clergy
members or leaders of youth organizations. Has anyone wondered why these
miscreants choose such professions? Because it is an accepted fact that
these positions are filled by honest, decent, people of high virtue.
What better disguise? It's like the terrorist bomber in Israel who blows
up a bus dressed like a rabbi; there is an attempt to blend in and not
draw suspicion. Remember, the perverts and other vermin are well aware
the cover these institutions provide for them. So please, instead of
blaming the organizations ot institutions that these criminals claim to
represent,
remember why they chose such a cover in the first place, True people of
virtue would NEVER commit these offenses.
I hear bagpipes...
I suppose we're supposed to believe that the criminals are really all
atheists at heart and don't believe in Jesus-God one whit. And we all
know that atheists are *not* 'true people of virtue.' Right? So I guess
people that go around perpetrating vile crimes must *all* be atheists,
or at the very least, liberals. Is that what I'm supposed to understand?
Even if we grant J's nonsensical claim, it doesn't explain the huge, ongoing
cover-ups of these crimes. Unless, of course, J is now going to claim that
the RCC is being run by liberal atheists.
--
Tukla, Squeaker of Chew Toys
Official Mascot of Alt.Atheism
"There are too many stupid people and nobody to eat them."
- Carlos Mencia
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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19 Sep 2005 12:50:59 PM |
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In <11itjc2gs7ac8f1@corp.supernews.com>, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:nsWdnUKm1IVoWrPeRVn-hg@megapath.net...
In <1127138253.730726.62690@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Liberals and atheists just love to bring focus on news stories about
rape,
child molestation, mass murder and other vile crimes committed by
clergy members or leaders of youth organizations. Has anyone wondered
why these miscreants choose such professions? Because it is an accepted
fact that these positions are filled by honest, decent, people of high
virtue. What better disguise? It's like the terrorist bomber in Israel
who blows up a bus dressed like a rabbi; there is an attempt to blend
in and not draw suspicion. Remember, the perverts and other vermin are
well aware the cover these institutions provide for them. So please,
instead of blaming the organizations ot institutions that these
criminals claim to represent,
remember why they chose such a cover in the first place, True people of
virtue would NEVER commit these offenses.
I hear bagpipes...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
-------------------------------------------------- "We're angry, Mr.
President, and we'll be angry long after our beloved city and
surrounding parishes have been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the government's shame."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2D511CBB
I suppose we're supposed to believe that the criminals are really all
atheists at heart and don't believe in Jesus-God one whit. And we all know
that atheists are *not* 'true people of virtue.' Right? So I guess people
that go around perpetrating vile crimes must *all* be atheists, or at the
very least, liberals. Is that what I'm supposed to understand?
Perzactly!
Not to mention it's atheist *infiltration* of churches making Krustians
look bad! It's all part of the Master Plan...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2D511CBB
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| User: "Olrik" |
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19 Sep 2005 10:39:14 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
In <1127138253.730726.62690@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, "J Young"
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
Liberals and atheists just love to bring focus on news stories about rape,
child molestation, mass murder and other vile crimes committed by clergy
members or leaders of youth organizations. Has anyone wondered why these
miscreants choose such professions? Because it is an accepted fact that
these positions are filled by honest, decent, people of high virtue. What
better disguise? It's like the terrorist bomber in Israel who blows up a
bus dressed like a rabbi; there is an attempt to blend in and not draw
suspicion. Remember, the perverts and other vermin are well aware the
cover these institutions provide for them. So please, instead of blaming
the organizations ot institutions that these criminals claim to represent,
remember why they chose such a cover in the first place, True people of
virtue would NEVER commit these offenses.
I hear bagpipes...
I'm barfing haggis myself...
--
Olrik
aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
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| User: "Misleart Chuff" |
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20 Sep 2005 10:11:23 AM |
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"Olrik" <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote in message
news:EvLXe.24927$Wo4.325922@weber.videotron.net...
: Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
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: > In <1127138253.730726.62690@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, "J
Young"
: > <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
[snip *****]
: > I hear bagpipes...
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: I'm barfing haggis myself...
You _are_ supposed to cook it first.
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| User: "Ben Kaufman" |
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21 Sep 2005 10:16:08 PM |
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 15:11:23 GMT, "Misleart Chuff" <misleart@ameritech.net>
wrote:
"Olrik" <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote in message
news:EvLXe.24927$Wo4.325922@weber.videotron.net...
: Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
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: > In <1127138253.730726.62690@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, "J
Young"
: > <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
[snip *****]
: > I hear bagpipes...
:
: I'm barfing haggis myself...
You _are_ supposed to cook it first.
and then shoot it for safe measure.
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| User: "" |
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19 Sep 2005 07:42:55 PM |
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On 19-Sep-2005, "Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
True people of
virtue would NEVER commit these offenses.
I hear bagpipes...
But he *did* say "true people of VIRTUE" - this includes atheists as well
(Stopped clocks are right twivce a day - J. Young is only right by
accident).
Tho' it's difficult to figure how a terrorist could dress like an
atheist....
But the fact is that terrorists try to dress like their VICTIMS because it's
the
safest course of action. A terrorist dressing as a rabbi only confirms that
much terrorism is directed against Jews (not just Israelis).
Susan
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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| Title: Re: "Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing" |
19 Sep 2005 09:38:43 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, J Young poured fuel on the fire with
the following:
[ snip the usual twaddle ]
The really amazing thing is that you clowns claim to have access to an
omniscient, omnipotent deity, but you still cannot prevent the
infiltration of lowlifes into your organizations. That is an excellent
illustration of the impotence of your beliefs. The final irony is that
those undesirables understand this better than you do.
Regards,
Josef
Half the world is composed of idiots, the other half of people clever
enough to take indecent advantage of them.
-- Walter Kerr
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| User: "The Watch Dog" |
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| Title: Re: "Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing" |
20 Sep 2005 01:59:43 AM |
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It's remarkable how you know so much about the inner thoughts of sexual
predators in positions of authority. Have you discussed it with a lot
of them?
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| User: "Wild Bill Taylor" |
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20 Sep 2005 02:50:29 AM |
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On 19 Sep 2005 23:59:43 -0700, "The Watch Dog" <tirhuan@aol.com>
wrote:
It's remarkable how you know so much about the inner thoughts of sexual
predators in positions of authority. Have you discussed it with a lot
of them?
For a look at the most active predators one need only observe the
homosexual Catholic priest who prey on boys and young men in the
churches and seminaries.
***************
Sex Abuse Audit 2
Michael Williams
Morality, Religion, & Philosophy
The results from two major studies of the recent revelations of sexual
abuse by Catholic priests have just been released. There's a lot of
data, but for the moment I want to focus on one statistic.
More than 80 percent of the alleged victims were male and over
half said they were between ages 11 and 14 when they were assaulted.
As I see it, there are two possibilities, both of which may be true.
1) Homosexuals are over-represented among Catholic priests compared to
the population as a whole.
2) Homosexual Catholic priests are more likely to sexually abuse
children than heterosexual Catholic priests.
Of course, no matter what their sexual orientation, all Catholic
priests are supposed to be celibate.
Approximately 3% of the general population is homosexual, so if the
truth is exclusively (1) then homosexuals are over-represented among
Catholic priests by almost 2700%. That's an astounding figure. If the
3% number is accurate and the US has around 280 million people, there
are 4.3 million homosexual men in the country. There are approximately
110 thousand priests in the US, and if 80% of them are homosexual then
they account for 2.1% of the total number of homosexual males.
Which brings us to (2). Considering that 28% of the population is
Roman Catholic, it's not impossible that 2.1% of homosexuals are
Catholic priests -- but it is unlikely since only 0.28% of Catholic
males in general are priests.
There is some data missing from this report. Half of the abuse victims
were between ages 11 and 14; presumably some were younger, and some
were older. Minors over age 14, however, cannot be properly
characterized as "children" and shouldn't be counted when discussing
pedophilia (which only refers to an attraction to prepubescent
children). All my numbers are based on the assumption that victims of
homosexual and heterosexual abuse are distributed evenly across the
age spectrum.
Personally, I think reality is a mixture of (1) and (2). The nature of
the priesthood (public celibacy) would appear to select for men who
have issues with normal sexuality. (Whatever your political
persuasion, you have to admit that homosexuality is not statistically
normal.) Further, there is other statistical evidence that suggests
homosexual males are more likely to sexually abuse a child per capita
than heterosexual males.
- Pedophiles are invariably males: Almost all sex crimes against
children are committed by men.
- Significant numbers of victims are males: Up to one-third of all
sex crimes against children are committed against boys (as opposed to
girls).
- The 10 percent fallacy: Studies indicate that, contrary to the
inaccurate but widely accepted claims of sex researcher Alfred Kinsey,
homosexuals comprise between 1 to 3 percent of the population.
- Homosexuals are over represented in child sex offenses:
Individuals from the 1 to 3 percent of the population that is sexually
attracted to the same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex
crimes against children.
- Some homosexual activists defend the historic connection between
homosexuality and pedophilia: Such activists consider the defense of
"boy-lovers" to be a legitimate gay rights issue.
- Pedophile themes abound in homosexual literary culture: Gay
fiction as well as serious academic treatises promote
"intergenerational intimacy."
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WILD BILL TAYLOR -- KILLFILED BY MAF1029
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| User: "Bill Baker" |
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| Title: Re: "Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing" |
20 Sep 2005 11:24:55 AM |
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 07:50:29 +0000, Wild Bill Taylor <wbt@privacy.net>
wrote in message news:<4sfvi1togbcef2nuk43ucnvf4q37p2eg8a@4ax.com>...
On 19 Sep 2005 23:59:43 -0700, "The Watch Dog" <tirhuan@aol.com>
wrote:
It's remarkable how you know so much about the inner thoughts of sexual
predators in positions of authority. Have you discussed it with a lot
of them?
For a look at the most active predators one need only observe the
homosexual Catholic priest who prey on boys and young men in the
churches and seminaries.
Or the straight men who make up the vast majority of child molesters,
right?
--
Lurlean Lie #6:
I am just posting stuff he claimed himself.
news:7908c278.0310191750.679ca7da@posting.google.com
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| User: "The Watch Dog" |
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| Title: Re: "Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing" |
20 Sep 2005 06:53:38 PM |
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Wild Bill Taylor wrote:
On 19 Sep 2005 23:59:43 -0700, "The Watch Dog" <tirhuan@aol.com>
wrote:
It's remarkable how you know so much about the inner thoughts of sexual
predators in positions of authority. Have you discussed it with a lot
of them?
For a look at the most active predators one need only observe the
homosexual Catholic priest who prey on boys and young men in the
churches and seminaries.
But unless you actually interview them, you will still have no way of
knowing if they joined the priesthood because they found it a
convenient way to pursue their pedophiliac inclinations.
Approximately 3% of the general population is homosexual, so if the
truth is exclusively (1) then homosexuals are over-represented among
Catholic priests by almost 2700%. That's an astounding figure. If the
3% number is accurate and the US has around 280 million people, there
are 4.3 million homosexual men in the country. There are approximately
110 thousand priests in the US, and if 80% of them are homosexual then
they account for 2.1% of the total number of homosexual males.
Try to get this right: You are dealing with two completely different
defintions of homosexual. The defintion of "homosexual" that leads to
the conclusion that 3% is, basically, "men who will say that they are
primarily attracted to other men." The defintion of "homosexual"
dealing with priests who molest children is "men who molest boys."
These are different defintions. Men who molest boys do not generally
consider themselves homosexual (and, in fact, most are heterosexual in
their adult relationships). When interviewed, they will not say that
they are primarily attracted to other men. They are not included in the
3% figure.
Consequently, any attempt to extrapolate to from the 3% figure to
conclusions having to do with priests who molest children is a basic
statistical error. Any Stat 101 or Soc 101 class would stop you right
there, and rightly so.
It's a lot like saying "Indians have a higher incidence of alchoholism,
so I'm reluctant to hire this guy from New Dehli." Statistics about
Indians (Native Americans) do not apply to samples of people from
India. You're dealing with two different dwefinitions of "Indian."
Now, it MIGHT be true that the two different defintions of "homosexual"
overlap a great deal, in which case your analysis would have some
validity. But you've shown no evidence that it is true, and studies
indicate that, in fact, the two groups overlap very, very little. So
your analysis is FALSE.
And if you repeat it again, you will be bearing false witness against
your neighbor.
- Homosexuals are over represented in child sex offenses:
Individuals from the 1 to 3 percent of the population that is sexually
attracted to the same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex
crimes against children.
This is a repetition of the same error. Most of the men you're talking
about are attracted to women in their adult relationships, and
therefore consider themselves, and are generally seen by society (until
discovered and arrested) as "straight." They have very little overlap
with the 3%.
- Some homosexual activists defend the historic connection between
homosexuality and pedophilia: Such activists consider the defense of
"boy-lovers" to be a legitimate gay rights issue.
- Pedophile themes abound in homosexual literary culture: Gay
fiction as well as serious academic treatises promote
"intergenerational intimacy."
Wait until you read what some heterosexual writers have written! You'll
find people writing, discussing, and even advocating "intergenerational
sex" among both straights and gays. And a large number of the
13-year-old and 14-year-old girls getting pregnant in this country are
actually having sex with men in their 20's. You don't need to go to
gays for that.
It is written: attend to the beam in your own eye before concerning
yourself with the mote in your neighbor's. Why don't you turn your
attention to the terrible mess heterosexuals have made out of marriage,
pregnancy, and the family, and get back to gays later? They'll still be
there.
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| User: "Wild Bill Taylor" |
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| Title: Re: "Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing" |
20 Sep 2005 07:40:47 PM |
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On 20 Sep 2005 16:53:38 -0700, "The Watch Dog" <tirhuan@aol.com>
wrote:
(...)
...get back to gays later...They'll still be there.
Not my problem, boy -- it's yours. You just don't seem to capable of
recognizing it.
--
WILD BILL TAYLOR -- KILLFILED BY MAF1029
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| User: "The Watch Dog" |
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| Title: Re: "Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing" |
20 Sep 2005 08:02:47 PM |
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Wild Bill Taylor wrote:
On 20 Sep 2005 16:53:38 -0700, "The Watch Dog" <tirhuan@aol.com>
wrote:
(...)
...get back to gays later...They'll still be there.
Not my problem, boy -- it's yours. You just don't seem to capable of
recognizing it.
If it is, then why don't you stop talking about it? I'm sure that you,
and other people of your sexual orinetation, have enough problems to
deal with. Start with teen-age pregnancy. You won't find many gays
repsonsible for that, so it's a wide-open field.
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| User: "Wild Bill Taylor" |
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| Title: Re: "Beware the wolf in sheep's clothing" |
20 Sep 2005 09:39:58 PM |
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On 20 Sep 2005 18:02:47 -0700, "The Watch Dog" <tirhuan@aol.com>
wrote:
Wild Bill Taylor wrote:
On 20 Sep 2005 16:53:38 -0700, "The Watch Dog" <tirhuan@aol.com>
wrote:
(...)
...get back to gays later...They'll still be there.
Not my problem, boy -- it's yours. You just don't seem to capable of
recognizing it.
If it is, then why don't you stop talking about it? I'm sure that you,
and other people of your sexual orinetation, have enough problems to
deal with. Start with teen-age pregnancy. You won't find many gays
repsonsible for that, so it's a wide-open field.
The discussion of the promiscuity and perversion of homosexuality in a
homosexual newsgroup is OT? By what stretch do you come to that
conclusion? Are you one who thinks that anything critical said of
homosexuality is bigoted?
--
WILD BILL TAYLOR -- KILLFILED BY MAF1029
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| User: "The Watch Dog" |
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21 Sep 2005 02:02:05 AM |
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Wild Bill Taylor wrote:
On 20 Sep 2005 18:02:47 -0700, "The Watch Dog" <tirhuan@aol.com>
wrote:
Wild Bill Taylor wrote:
On 20 Sep 2005 16:53:38 -0700, "The Watch Dog" <tirhuan@aol.com>
wrote:
(...)
...get back to gays later...They'll still be there.
Not my problem, boy -- it's yours. You just don't seem to capable of
recognizing it.
If it is, then why don't you stop talking about it? I'm sure that you,
and other people of your sexual orinetation, have enough problems to
deal with. Start with teen-age pregnancy. You won't find many gays
repsonsible for that, so it's a wide-open field.
The discussion of the promiscuity and perversion of homosexuality in a
homosexual newsgroup is OT? By what stretch do you come to that
conclusion? Are you one who thinks that anything critical said of
homosexuality is bigoted?
I didn't say it was off-topic in this group. I merely quoted: remove
the beam from your own eye before attending to the mote in your
brother's.
I didn't say that anything critical said of homosexuality is bigoted,
either.
I did say: please take a statistics class before you unleash any more
Bad Statistics on the world!
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